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    Quote Originally Posted by TJ View Post
    Re Lewis - anyone who calls him pretentious or arrogant or the like is clearly biased or doesn't follow the sport. He never makes any sort of crazy comments about how good he is etc. Another season, another load of it coming I guess, but far out.
    I have to agree with TJ on this one. Labelling him prententious or arrogant is way off the mark. He's more egotistical and conceited with a slight Narcissistic personality disorder than anything.

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    The ad blocks on Foxtel pissed me right off.

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    I thoroughly enjoyed Dan's weekend, seeing the Ozzie bandwagon wheels fall off is always amusing.

    I like Dan, i fucking hate the bandwagon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadDocker View Post
    The ad blocks on Foxtel pissed me right off.
    Necessary evil for AusGP because of sharing with FTA.

    Back to normal ad free racing for the rest of the season thank fuck. Why do us elitists have to be punished for the peasantry is beyond me *raises nose to the air whilst holding a find cognac*

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    Quote Originally Posted by esky View Post
    I thoroughly enjoyed Dan's weekend, seeing the Ozzie bandwagon wheels fall off is always amusing.

    I like Dan, i fucking hate the bandwagon.
    Ferrari picking up all the band wagon fucks now sadly. First I had to deal with them as an RBR fan.. then they all jumped ship to Lewis/MGP and since testing they've all been crawling back to Ferrari. Their wardrobes must be pretty big to have enough various team merch to cover them for all outcomes.

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    Forza Lewrarri!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaTMaN View Post
    I have to agree with TJ on this one. Labelling him prententious or arrogant is way off the mark. He's more egotistical and conceited with a slight Narcissistic personality disorder than anything.
    Being pretentious and arrogant are related to egotistical and narcissistic traits, that are seen in a cluster of personality schemas including narcissistic personality disorder and borderline personality disorder.

    From a diagnostic point of view it is very unlikely he would meet the criteria for narcissistic personality disorder. A major factor shared with that cluster of disorders is the reliance on others for validation, and a goal directed behaviour that also serves a function to get external validation. I haven't seen any examples of those being true in Lewis, he appears to have a strong internal locus of control which is most likely reinforcing his sense of self-importance. To be fair, that is something seen in many people at the elite end of sports.
    Diagnosing people has inherent challenges so using descriptors for traits or observable behaviours is a better way to go.

    That is why I singled out being pretentious and arrogant, which from behavioural point of view is more specific about what patterns anyone who is unbiased and does follow the sport, can identify. These tap into his over inflated sense of self and grandiosity which only form a part of a narcissistic personality so you were on the right track by saying 'slight narcissistic' just a bit off.

    But if you don't agree with me, feel free to consult the DSM V, or listen to many other's opinions who know him well, Alonso, Kubica, Button and others who have all described him as having too high an opinion of himself and being arrogant. Their words, not mine and given they know each other a lot better than us keyboard critics do, should carry some weight.

    Without doing a personality inventory it is all speculation and completely off topic but it is important to correct your statements.

    Source: Am a registered psychologist.

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    He wears prescription glasses when he doesn't require them/isn't a k-pop star. He is a flog. He is a good driver. But also a flog.

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    The hate on Lewis is getting old. yeah yeah typical Wrexter. But seriously. Yeah he's different, so what. There's certainly bigger flogs on the grid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrexter View Post
    The hate on Lewis is getting old. yeah yeah typical Wrexter. But seriously. Yeah he's different, so what. There's certainly bigger flogs on the grid.
    Fair call and I am guilty of it for sure. We all have different people we support so will be mindful to respect that in future.

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    Name one.

    Lewis is King of the flogs, a talented one I admit but he is #1 Champion of the Cumsocks and there's not really anyone who's even remotely close aside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ELUSIV View Post
    Being pretentious and arrogant are related to egotistical and narcissistic traits, that are seen in a cluster of personality schemas including narcissistic personality disorder and borderline personality disorder.

    From a diagnostic point of view it is very unlikely he would meet the criteria for narcissistic personality disorder. A major factor shared with that cluster of disorders is the reliance on others for validation, and a goal directed behaviour that also serves a function to get external validation. I haven't seen any examples of those being true in Lewis, he appears to have a strong internal locus of control which is most likely reinforcing his sense of self-importance. To be fair, that is something seen in many people at the elite end of sports.
    Diagnosing people has inherent challenges so using descriptors for traits or observable behaviours is a better way to go.

    That is why I singled out being pretentious and arrogant, which from behavioural point of view is more specific about what patterns anyone who is unbiased and does follow the sport, can identify. These tap into his over inflated sense of self and grandiosity which only form a part of a narcissistic personality so you were on the right track by saying 'slight narcissistic' just a bit off.

    But if you don't agree with me, feel free to consult the DSM V, or listen to many other's opinions who know him well, Alonso, Kubica, Button and others who have all described him as having too high an opinion of himself and being arrogant. Their words, not mine and given they know each other a lot better than us keyboard critics do, should carry some weight.

    Without doing a personality inventory it is all speculation and completely off topic but it is important to correct your statements.

    Source: Am a registered psychologist.

    Apologies for de-railing.
    Lol I was only joking but fair call.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ELUSIV View Post
    Being pretentious and arrogant are related to egotistical and narcissistic traits, that are seen in a cluster of personality schemas including narcissistic personality disorder and borderline personality disorder.

    From a diagnostic point of view it is very unlikely he would meet the criteria for narcissistic personality disorder. A major factor shared with that cluster of disorders is the reliance on others for validation, and a goal directed behaviour that also serves a function to get external validation. I haven't seen any examples of those being true in Lewis, he appears to have a strong internal locus of control which is most likely reinforcing his sense of self-importance. To be fair, that is something seen in many people at the elite end of sports.
    Diagnosing people has inherent challenges so using descriptors for traits or observable behaviours is a better way to go.

    That is why I singled out being pretentious and arrogant, which from behavioural point of view is more specific about what patterns anyone who is unbiased and does follow the sport, can identify. These tap into his over inflated sense of self and grandiosity which only form a part of a narcissistic personality so you were on the right track by saying 'slight narcissistic' just a bit off.

    But if you don't agree with me, feel free to consult the DSM V, or listen to many other's opinions who know him well, Alonso, Kubica, Button and others who have all described him as having too high an opinion of himself and being arrogant. Their words, not mine and given they know each other a lot better than us keyboard critics do, should carry some weight.

    Without doing a personality inventory it is all speculation and completely off topic but it is important to correct your statements.

    Source: Am a registered psychologist.

    Apologies for de-railing.
    Look forward to you providing sourced quotes from the drivers listed. Especially from 2013 on - even he admits his time at Mclaren was not good for his growth.

    You take his quotes from races since his time at Mercedes - 95% of it is appreciative of his team etc.
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    he was banging one of the hottest chicks on the planet...gotta make you feel some sort of way about yourself!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckets View Post
    Lewis is King of the flogs, a talented one I admit but he is #1 Champion of the Cumsocks and there's not really anyone who's even remotely close aside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TJ View Post
    Look forward to you providing sourced quotes from the drivers listed. Especially from 2013 on - even he admits his time at Mclaren was not good for his growth.
    You don't need sources. You're the Formula 1 wizard around these parts, you know that Button, Alonso, and Kubica have all commented on his arrogance and high opinion of himself. Button's comment was as recent as 2015 after Lewis went on a 10 day bender and missed media commitments.

    Bernie Ecclestone
    David Coulthard
    Eddie Jordan
    Damon Hill

    All have made similar comments during broadcast.

    About the only person who wouldn't say such a thing is Martin Brundle. But it's hard to say anything about Lewis when his balls are on Martin's chin.

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    I will wait for sourced comments that are factual. Not opinion, or comment. Facts.

    I am not the one trying to prove a bullshit petty argument.

    To make it simple, just say "I don't like the guy"

    Comments made by Eddie, Damon, David "oh his partying affects his driving" - nope, never did. They just wanted a story. In fact, his worst year where he clearly had shit going on was 2011 and he was still under the mclaren umbrella and controlled then.

    I have always said I will take a F1 discussion with facts.

    To be fair, anyone at the top of the sport, has to think highly of themselves also. But yeah, he would be the only sportsman on mega bucks, who is successful and thinks that way, right?

    Pathetic.
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    I just don't like the guy
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    Sweet Seb.

    A very simple thing - people don't have to like the guy. But unfortunately for all of you, he will go down as one of the greats to have driven. I hope you enjoy it.
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    Jenson Button has warned his former teammate and now triple F1 world champion Lewis Hamilton not to get carried away with his success.

    In the wake of some headline grabbing comments and incidents of late, Hamilton’s former McLaren teammate Jenson Button warned: “He’s pretty quickly becoming arrogant.”

    Bild newspaper said Button was referring to the fact that Hamilton reportedly claimed he is “complete” as a driver, only failing to win races when he makes mistakes.
    The McLaren-Mercedes star did his utmost to atone for his calamitous Fuji Speedway error – when he left his braking dangerously late into turn one at the start, sending cars scattering in his wake – by storming to pole position for the Chinese Grand Prix in Shanghai this weekend, and he acknowledged in an interview with ITV that 'I don't have to win it at the first corner'.

    However, whilst admitting that the British ace has had an overwhelmingly positive overall impact upon the sport since his arrival in the top flight last year, F1 commercial rights-holder Bernie Ecclestone has added his voice to those of some of Hamilton's rivals – ex-McLaren team-mate Fernando Alonso and former ally Robert Kubica chief amongst them – who believe the eight-time grand prix winner is making more enemies than friends within the paddock

    “He is good for business,” the 77-year-old told German magazine Auto Motor und Sport, “[but] out of the car he is a little bit arrogant. I think he has slightly too high an opinion of himself and that irritates the other drivers.”
    Lewis Hamilton has rejected Jackie Stewart’s claim that he is arrogant and over confident in his driving style.

    The championship leader's temperament has been once more been put in the spotlight after his disappointing 12th place finish at the Japanese GP saw his lead over Felipe Massa cut to five points with just two races left.
    “In the past I used to think Lewis was a bit arrogant,” says BBC Formula One presenter Suzi Perry, who joined Formula One in 2012, the same year Hamilton moved from McLaren to Mercedes. “I don’t think I was alone in thinking that either. But personally, I’ve completely changed my mind about him.
    That was 2 minutes of Google searching. Everything is opinion, but it is the opinion of those who know him and work with him, and I'm not arguing whether he should think highly of himself or not, simply reminding you that people have commented on his arrogance and high opinion of himself.

    These days I'm more of a Lewis fan than not. He's grown, but he burnt plenty of bridges along the way xox

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    Bild - German trash, you know that. Reportedly claimed - so not factual. Next

    Bernie - "I think" - opinion, next. And from 2008, when he was a 23 year old kid.

    Jackie, well one, he doesn't like Lewis passing his records, two, it's a claim. Next.

    "I used to think" - Think, opinion, that has changed. Next.

    Yet to see a fact.

    Once again, don't have to like the guy, but opinions are not facts despite what fox, cnn, facebook and your own thoughts tell you.

    All the greats burnt bridges getting to the top in the modern F1 era.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebdullah View Post
    I just don't like the guy
    I just don't like the guy.....

    either.. although arrogance is somewhat built into a lot of these ultra performing stars that makes them what they are... great drivers...

    what I find most annoying is the ones that bitch and moan when things arent going their way instead of just getting on with their friggin job ,, classic be german hissy fits when someone isnt letting them past

    pm a side note I don't think many of us could even fathom being asked constantly about our performance by media and how we could of done better etc etc , or whatever and the impact that would have on our third person
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    Let's see the big whinges of last year

    - Lewis with the "something is stopping me from winning this year"

    - Vettel with his whinging on the radio non stop about passing etc

    - Dan, Monaco. Biggest of the year.

    All of those justified.
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    The conceited attitude and arrogance is attractive to the current digital generation of selfie narcissism and mirror admirers. It's easy to see why he has a lot of fans. :-)

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    Hamilton is one of the best drivers on the grid. There is no argument there and anyone who argues that is an idiot IMO.

    But he's disliked. By a LOT of people.

    I don't think it's because of what he says, I think it's the way he says it. He comes across as disingenuous. Answers to interview questions seem rehearsed and when things aren't going his way he has the world's least sincere smile.
    His attitude and personality are not likable unless you're a die-hard fan, which is evident by his reception on the podium.
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