Camber Kits

[Liz]

Hi Guys - I'm well on my way to fitting some pretty crazy sized wheels onto my 33 and one of the things I have to do before I even get the guards flared is adjust the camber a few degrees.

What I want to know is, exactly what is included in a camber kit, what are each of the parts names, and what do they look like.

I've tried to search time and time again, but can't find any pics that I can work out belong in the camber kit or what not.

Thanks
Liz.

[confuzion]

Ive just ordered some for myself, you can either get full adjustable upper control arms or bushes for most cars. I just did a search on www.whiteline.com.au (http://www.whiteline.com.au) for R33 for camber and it gave this: https://www.whiteline.com.au/store/default.asp?part=KCA348
Doesnt say anything about bush kit so itll be the upper arm type.

[Liz]

ok so the actual part is called a upper control arm

unfortunately whiteline won't do the job in this case, due to the angle I'm after and won't be as adjustable as I'd need it.

But yeah, I'll probably make that decision once I know a little more on the topic.

What are the rear ones called? same thing but rear?
Are there any additional parts I'd need to make them fit?

[1JZNOSHIT]

why are you flaring the guards? you must be going massively wide with a crazy offset?

I have purchased some adjustable camber arms from Just Jap, a mate has them on a R32 and they work fine. $164 a pair delivered to Perth.

[Liz]

yeah I'm doing 17x9s +22offset lol.. crazy!

not keen on just jap although i haven't seen the product I except that it'll be no better than whiteline which I can't use in this instance.

I need 3 degrees camber to bring the tops in.. can you adjust yours to 3degrees?

Also is bringing the tops in called negative or positive camber?

Yes I'm a newbie on the topic!

[1JZNOSHIT]

thats negative camber.

i have ordered some just jap arms, should get them soon. will let you know how i go.

[Liz]

cool thanks.

[evil_weevil]

Liz is getting serious with Track days!

:D

Your 33 is going to be a weapon, can I have a drive?? :D

[Scradly]

I cant see why you would have to dial in more negative camber to make your wheels fit.
If the car has been lowered a fair bit that usally brings the neg camber in a bit.
I purchased the rear links to give it less neg camber as the lower you go the more neg camber you get.

The adjustable one should have enough adjustment as the front of your car should already have about 1.5 degrees of neg on it allready so you add the links and you can got +/- 1.5 degrees which should give you the desired amount of camber.
As for the rear i think the adustable links will have enough adjustment to suit.

Hope this helps

[evil_weevil]

Scradly - I had the same issue with my old VT commodore - Lowered it and I had to get the camber kit to reduce the negative camber - wearing through tyres waaaaay to quickly!

[Liz]

The car isn't lowered at all.... the rims stick out like crazy so a combination of the camber adjustments and flaring would do the trick.

The car is also in for alot of track work so the wheel reason isn't purely the reason why I want it done... it just pushed me to get it done sooner! lol

What are the links? Can you perhaps post some pictures, coz that's half my problem, not knowing what these parts look like, or are called or how they fit in.

Hahahah chris - yeah you can have a drive once it's set up how I want it!

[Liz]

ps you guys are so much more helpful than the SAU crew!!! haha... so much more quality information than just some idiot posting away!

[Scradly]

https://www.whiteline.com.au/store/...asp?part=KCA348
Thats the pic of the front which Confuzion has allready posted.
The rears look like this.

[Liz]

Thanks Scradly

I'm going to see if I can find something similiar made that'll get me my 3degrees!

[[ant]]

if your car isnt lowered at all why not lower it how you want first and see what happens?

as people have mentioned, the main reason people normally get camber arms is to dial OUT the negative camber e.g. make the rims more Vertical in the guards. this prolongs tyre life quite significantly and also aids grip as it is increasing the tyre contact area on the road.

i know little of skylines so i cant comment on the offsets/width situation and how it will sit, but im quite sure flaring alone will allow you clearance, unless you want to go very wide/proper width tyres on the rims. if you go a little undersize the tyres will "stretch" hence the sidewall will be angled inwards and not be as wide as the rim itself. this prevents it from hitting the guards in some cases as it angles away under the guards more.

i only say try flaring only coz 3' deg negative will give lots of tyre wear and probably not much grip! so you may as well try smaller width tyres anyway as they will probably have the same contact patch as wider tyres with more negative camber as you are suggesting!

my s13 is lowered with Tein coilovers and is as low as legal give or take (mid muffler is about 90mm from the ground, rest of the car is 100mm). so it is low but not crazily low. looks lower coz of the kit... but as it stands it has (from memory) around 2.1deg negative on the Right and 1.8negative on the left. and these measurements were taken when i had stock rims, and have since gone to 16s and lowered it another 20mm or so to the heights i mentioned above. so i wouldnt be surprised to have 2.5neg and 2.0neg atm.

the above is another reason people get the adjustable arms, so they can have even camber both sides, coz cars never seem to camber in equally.

sorry for such a long post, i just think going lots of camber may not be necessary, and in theory is best left as low as possible really.

[Liz]

I think one thing you are forgetting is lots of negative camber on a track car isn't a bad thing! lol.. remember boys and girls... this car sees the track at least twice a month.

Anyhow... I'm selling the car and I'll revisit the camber issue on the new toy!