The shambles that was the sports compact day.

[tomj]

not impressed with the day in general.

1. We guys (import ppl) moan about not being respected by the people at the plex , but when we get a chance to go there and show what we have we dont even bother to go. wasnt all that many ppl today.

2. Organisers need to be shot.

however, still some nice cars and was a fun time for me in general. Thanks Ross :)

cheers Tom

[summoner]

so what happened? no decent cars turn up? or just lack of people in general?

[zeroyon]

Bugger eh.

I was spuin i missed that.

I guess there was no advertising for it.

Was there anything on Tellie / Radio about it ?

[JILTED]

it went through the forums grapevine but other then that i heard nothing!!

SilviaWA took away a few awards :D

[BaDgEd_S13]

yeh there wasnt much advertisement, most of the ppl that went probly heard about it from ppl. they need a tv advert or newspaper next time

[tomj]

what happened? was decent cars, but could have been more

was not alot of people though. shame to see such a lack of support for imports with such a large scene here.

[suburban]

yeh poor organisation i think. fuck all ppl, not many cars and those bastard flies were givin me the shits

some nice times were ran once the track etc cooled down.

oh and the silviawa group was tops as usual. saw a fair few of the boys actaully using their cars :)

[JILTED]

hahha optical

true to the advertising, heard it through forums only.. what chance do people have of knowing about it if they arn't heavily in the game, but still have an interest??

[Jinman]

I heard ads about it on Groove 101.7fm radio. Other than that there was no advertising other than by word of mouth and on the motorplex website. Aside from that ppl were slogged a hefty entry fee!

[tomj]

yes , id like my 21 dollars back.....

[B0BB0]

The problem which i believe ppl cant see is that it is the start of the drag season, hence some ppl's cars arnt ready, others are in the testing phase, and some ppl are just getting back into the swing of things.

The heat was the killer for me spending 20$ on drinks wasnt that good.

i reckon the event early next year (march ?) will be good, because most peoples cars will be going really well.

my high point of the day was GOT BOOST's 2x 11.9x times (and the officials thinking its a GTR), Anthony's 11.75 in hes 1600, and Murry's 10.6x. Congratulations to these ppl. also the white 180 running low 12's

Does anyone know whos white 180 this is, and some details ?

[suburban]

yeh murrays rotor was pissing. angry car.

i still think there could have been more ppl there, maybe not competing but just watching

[got boost]

$21 how bout the $60 to race plus fuel.tyres plus food
and them f*ckin flys i was hung over and i had one fly in my gob i nearly lost my lunch
i bailled up Peter Pike and told him what i thought and how so many stayed away because of the cost to enter. it will be revised next time without doubt.
the 180sx i was told came in from japan like that complete with well used nitto's? maybe through ray f?

[doriae86]

i would have just enjoyed it if i was there
damn work!

[Fozzy]

The sed 180sx belongs to Lee Sampson from AFARCC and it was brought into the country nice and angry and then he brought it nice car and good to see him out using it in drags and track days

[XSIV]

Yeah turn out was a bit dissappointing but it was to be expected for the 1st year. Motorvation started out the same way, and look at it now. The next comp is in March. Hopefully we see alot more club entrants next time.

All the details were available at www.all-torque.com.au (http://www.all-torque.com.au), along with everything else that goes on at the plex. We try to keep on top of most things that are happening on Perth :)

[tomj]

yeah people should have known it was one.

theres your site for on rich, then there is the rest of the advertising that was put on , and of course they can now advertise their events here :)

[MrMayhem]

Craig Jennings bought that dirty 180 in

[RB20ZED]

good event little advertisin and the fuckin flies. hey id pay 21 bux just to see tj thrash ross 32 again {poor clutch}

[SmItLeR]

missed it :-( got home after a night in lancelin to find that it was on - was way to hungover to even consider a 1+ hour drive to Kwinana after driver 1+ hours from lancelin

[Joel]

I was too hot and sunstroked so I took off about 4. Sounds like it improved form then though...

[GTS-t VSPEC]

I agreee it was a very poorly run event, only those people in the Jap Import Scene even knew about it, and the level of organisation was pitiful.

The cost alos put alot of people off, some people want to drag race only, not have a cruise and show'n'shine.

Let's hope they improve then next one.

[tomj]

it will improve as i saw Sean [gotboost] having a nice chat with the boss :)

[Joel]

I dont think my car even got judged in the show and shine. It got scrutinized instead.

[GTS-t VSPEC]

Joel, I believe the scrutineering and the show'n'shine judging took place at the same time. Seems a bit stupid to me.

[SmItLeR]

ppl learn from previous expreiences - since its the first i guess the next one will include many improvements from the first

[Nizmo]

Yes they well and truely didnt market the Event properly ... and the prices were to high anyway .... main reason i didnt go was price wise and ive heard nothing but bad feedback from those that did. $21!! You dont even pay that to get into some of the bigger car shows.

Pity tho because events like this could do a lot for the import scene. Things like this should be made more cheaper and available to people with performance vehicles .... they whinge about hoons but make it too expensive for them to race their vehicles in a controlled environment!

[JME]

I was speaking to Peter Pike about it 3 weeks ago, and seems the 'organisers' weren't keen on copious amounts of advertising. It was left to forums, email lists and the Motorplex mailing list. More an experiment in the actual running of the event. Hopefully 'Joe Public' will get notice of it at next years March event and give it the turnout and credit the import scene needs.

The entry fee does sound a little steep tho. What about the general running of the events was it well run or a typical Auto Salon approach?

[BASSULA]

I was there..... my event ran pretty well... small number of competitors tho...

who saw my super rice.. hehehe

cheers

[gothesr]

well when I turned up I was seriously concidering leaving and going home, less cars than a woop ass wednesday

[tomj]

i think someone needs to write out a letter to the guys at the plex with some of our grieveances.

send a copy to anyone interested and they can forward it to the plex admin - this could be a good approach to fixing alot. to but it bluntly im not even gonna do a story on the event just the pics :(

[tomj]

http://www.antilag.com/tom/antilag/1600.JPG

just a teaser pic before site coverage

though the bike behind it looks pretty hardcore too :)

[Nizmo]

Think a letter would be a good idea Tom ..... can you put in a good word for me while your writing it .... it appears they need a new marketing and events person :D

[SHUTO-BOY]

it was a crap event. and i did crap 2. Did anyone see my "darth vader" r33 wheelspin like the whole 60foot?

Nice DR30 TOMJ, silver looks hot

[GTS-t VSPEC]

Once SAU is back up we'll send a letter on behalf of SAUWA:D Just point out areas for improvement:D

[tomj]

that r33 was yours ? haha do u remember me taking pics of it while you where talking to got boost sean? it will be on the site

[GTS-t VSPEC]

Tom, Did you get picks of when the key was stuck in the boot lock?

[Nizmo]

Once SAU is back up we'll send a letter on behalf of SAUWA:D Just point out areas for improvement:D

We are? So you going to give Alex a little dictation eh?

hahaha the joys of being SAUWA Secretary he's about to find out ;)

[Joel]

A bit bitter are we? ;)

[Nizmo]

Not at all haha i was winning that position til i said i didnt want it .... i wanted the events one (more up my alley as i would like to do events management one day) - which is what i got ;) so everyone wins.

Just trying to be funny .... obviously didnt work :(

[GTS-t VSPEC]

Niz, Alex is having no part of my dicktation;)

[hks-s14]

Ok, firstly, good stuff to the Motorplex on running the event to start off with. It is a long overdue event for Perth, but needs a lot of work for it to be a true success.

1. Entry fees (competitor)
I thought the fees were reasonable. However, as a part of the $60 entry fee, there was to be a dyno shootout. Only 20 cars were allowed onto the dyno (we only found this out once we had paid), and most cars were pre-booked by Formaz because obviously they wanted their customers cars on display...most of which made shitty numbers. This was a big annoyance to our group as we all wanted to go on the dyno.

2. Entry fee (spectator) - no way did people get their $21 fee in value. Nuff said.

3. Registration - there was no pre-registration for the event. This shows a lack of preparation and DID turn people off from entering. Pre-registration shows people that there is planning going into the event, and allows clubs to form their teams for the day etc.

4. Information - not many of the staff honestly knew what was going on, what time things were happening etc. Yes the PA announcer was letting people know, but half the time you could not hear him over the music, ravving engines or "cross-talk" from the PA system. A simple running sheet, given to every entrant would have been sensational.

5. Judging - no one knew where to get judges for show n shine etc.

6. Driving events - in particular the slalom and go-to-whoa. The entrants did not know what to do, where to stop etc etc. A simple demo run or 2 would have been great. The drag racing went well.

7. Promotion - there was nothing of substance, simple. Considering the lack of promotion, the numbers of cars competing were good.

There is probably more points to talk about, but these were the main one's for me. Still, if these issues are resolved, the next Sports Compact will be great.

[GTS-t VSPEC]

Mat, I agree with most of your points except the competitor entry fee. There were alot of people that simply wanted to drag race, Not everyone wants to enter Show'n'Shine or do the supercruise. I think there should be a $30-40 drag race only entry.

[hks-s14]

Good point - but then that would mean that all the drag racing entrants would only be allowed to come in at say, 2pm, and hour before racing starts.




Mat, I agree with most of your points except the competitor entry fee. There were alot of people that simply wanted to drag race, Not everyone wants to enter Show'n'Shine or do the supercruise. I think there should be a $30-40 drag race only entry.

[GTS-t VSPEC]

No, I'd just have a seperate area for clubs and show-cars. They could still compete in the drags/racing etc.

[hks-s14]

You would have to make sure spectators couldn't get to it.

Personally I think cars that are there to race only should have their own part of the grass. I love looking at cars built to go hard, even if they do look like crap. It is always interesting to see the engineering behind some of these cars, and having these on display will only help strengthen the 4, 6 and rotor car community.

[GTS-t VSPEC]

Yeah, I agree, but there not show cars, and to make you pay for Show'n'shine regardless put a few people off coming down.

Plus there should have been alot more drag racing.

[hks-s14]

There was heaps of drag racing - most people didn't want to run because it was too hot and retured to the pits for a while.

[Nizmo]

i cant believe they had a cruise around the motorplex :rolleyes: i bet that was as much fun as watching paint dry.

[GTS-t VSPEC]

Mat, Most of the day we were sitting there waiting for the racing to start. If they had advertised then there would have been enough people to fill the lanes:D

Niz, The entrants enjoy the cruise, but can't see why you'd need to pay extra for it:rolleyes:

[Nizmo]

A late afternoon night would be better in summer i would imagine .... say gates opens 3pm .... finishes at 12. Spectators come away healthier .... as do turbocharged cars :)

[hks-s14]

Good point Niz.

Paul - the thing is, the plex has to make profit, it costs a lot to run a day like that.

[GTS-t VSPEC]

Yeah, I think Niz is right. Especially until they can build up the crowd level.

[GTS-t VSPEC]

Mat, I agree it costs alot to run, but they could have got 1000 more spectators by advertsing:D

[hks-s14]

Yeah true dat. But in reality people got more runs in than they would on a wednesday night meet.

[Nizmo]

oooh ive had a good idea - im going to print it out and frame it cos its a rare occurance :p

But the old rule goes - you have to spend money to make money. You cant not advertise it and just expect the public to telepathetically know about it.

Plus i know a lot of car enthusiasts that are not part of a car club .... so they are missing out on a lot of $$$'s

[GTS-t VSPEC]

Mat, Why did they start it so early? We were all there for hours getting fried in the sun before anything worthwhile happened. And having a non-shootout dyno was crap aswell, some very strange results;)

[hks-s14]

I dunno - it probably did start a bit too early considering there were fark all entries. I think if there had been heaps of people, the day would not have seemed as long.

As for the dyno, it blew chunks. Lee's car was about 1 inch from falling off the ferkin thing.

[GTS-t VSPEC]

Yes, but the variation in outputs seem disturbing to me. Shootout is the only way to run dyno-comps.

[hks-s14]

But you can't make money from shootouts....*bites tongue*

[GTS-t VSPEC]

No point running a dyno comp if you can't rely on the results.

[suburban]

hopefully the next event will be a lot better sorted

[GTS-t VSPEC]

True, hopefully if we send them some constructive ideas then they may take some of them on board:D

[R32-GTR]

it was a crap event. and i did crap 2. Did anyone see my "darth vader" r33 wheelspin like the whole 60foot?

Nice DR30 TOMJ, silver looks hot

Edwin .. on warm up burnout .. try using a bit of brake and feather the throttle instead of just holding it flat on limiter . That sounded harsh !

[hako]

the white 180, like mayhem said was bought in by craig jennings
pretty serious bit of gear - especially when it came in, people werent so used to numbers like that
basically hks internals, 2.1 litre, hks 3037 turbs, greddy plenum making 400rwhp+ at the treads
figured about 540hp at the fly originally - could be more
and it came with nittos yes sean (it needs them) - but they werent so well used then :P

[SmItLeR]

dam thats a serious machine - did anyone get pics of Josh's 180 RB26? i'm curious to see some pics aye

[tomj]

yeah theres pics :)

[Lord_Muck]

I think leave all the cars mixed together, because some clubs may even have some show and some GO cars. I enjoy looking at cars with the GO primarily and the show is secondary. Just have a small plaque in the window saying "Show'n'Shine Entrant number 10" or wotever. Perhaps some voting, peoples choice, that sort of thing. get the spectators involved. I didn't see or hear of this "Glow Off" and the "Sound Off" seems like it was only made known to entrants ( BASSULA i assume thats what u mean when u said, "my event" )

As for driving events, well competing on the track is great for spectators, but shit for entrants, how about hold a motorkhana (park in garages) style event on the snake pit. Like Motorvation used to in the burswood carpark. Go-to-Whoa rules are sketchy, at Summernats then have to stop on a LINE (tho many ppl fluke it, its a damn site harder i'm sure), Motorvation and the Sports compact day here its like stop "somewhere" between those cones. Problems with either track or snake pit to hold it is a) timing it and b) they r WAY stickier than the road, so how are you going to judge you braking?

Thats my $21 worth right there lol, comments?

[Lord_Muck]

Sorry guys that post was more in response to posts 27-33. As i myself forked out the folding for hours of frying in the sun, if we have a club day, 3 words "SUN SHADES" "MORTEIN" lol

catchas

[hks-s14]

As for driving events, well competing on the track is great for spectators, but shit for entrants, how about hold a motorkhana (park in garages) style event on the snake pit.
Not enough room on the snake pit for a decent motorkana...the staging lanes area however would be great.


Like Motorvation used to in the burswood carpark. Go-to-Whoa rules are sketchy, at Summernats then have to stop on a LINE (tho many ppl fluke it, its a damn site harder i'm sure), Motorvation and the Sports compact day here its like stop "somewhere" between those cones.
Yeah go-to-whoa was weird, I always thought you had to stop on a line, not in a "garage" as such.

[suburban]

maybe it would be a good idea to send some constructive criticism their way, it will hopefully help the next one be more of a success

[Lord_Muck]

True that HKS-s14 staging lanes have plenty of room but i have a feeling they wouldn;t be too keen on people "blacking out" the lines hehe. Summernats if u recall, has all grass driving events, spear a spud and motorkhana. Only the go-to-whoa and the burnouts are held on the bitchumen.

[BASSULA]

yer I was helping in running the sound off...

they should have annonced it on the PA but for te sound off ya ust had to come to the tent where we were... as for the glow off... I was as far as I know the only entrant! it would be nice to see a few more next time round.. I have a few ideas that I will be passing onto the motorplex people about this too..

cheers

[got boost]

so tom wheres the pics

[suburban]

yeh tom wheres the pics ?

:D

[SmItLeR]

yeh tom? o0ol0 new page for me :)

[hondaboy]

ive got some pics online on my site
bout 135 i think

[tomj]

yeah tom wheres the pics

on my hdd right ..... now ! :)

upload and story asap

[SST Steve]

The PSI2FLY S13 that was their on sat run 11.5 on wednesday nite on a real bad track hours after rain.Its a pitty he didn't bring his good tyres on sat i think it could have run flat 11s sat nite.Ants 11 was at 130mph good for a flat 10 or better on slicks.

[tomj]

no doubt. id like him to try it on nittos though :)

[SST Steve]

Street ETs are as street as Nittos.

[tomj]

yeah but everyone wants to see it on slicks.

i dont :)

its a hardcore street car

[got boost]

i think ive got 1 more meet on my tyres ill hold off and make it worth it. wanna change a few things first

[tomj]

good stuff. Sean your feature shall be up as soon as d0pey gets round to it .... :D

[TurboHead]

AFARCC were asked to run the show and shine however we were given only about 3 weeks notice (I think because RB were going to do it but they dropped the ball and have now closed down...)

The AFARCC guys doing the judging turned up at the event knowing about as much as the competitors - but if AFARCC are asked to help out again next year then they certainly have some idea's to make that part of the day run smoother. I didn't see a problem with the Show and Shine being judged in the scrute building as your car didn't have to be judged at the same time - basically entrants had till 3:00pm to get their cars judged. I doubt the judges would have wanted to stand in the sun waiting for cars to turn up for judging for 5 hours. I personally do think that a casual show and shine is ok but I don't see the point going to hard core S&S at a race track.... Racing should play the major part of the day.

The girls at the gate were handing out info sheets on the event as people come in and that had all the info required.... would have been good to get that well before the event though.

For the next one, pre entry will be available and I'm pretty sure the pricing is going to be looked at.... but don't expect to race for $30 if you want a fully prepared track.... thats more like $40-45min.

Not sure about the dyno comments.... all I know is I rocked up at the event, read my handout, went to the dyno setup and booked my car in... I was 3rd or 4th on the dyno - wasn't that hard really.

All in all I thought it was a good event and after running a PB on such a hot day I can't wait for the next one when the weather is cooler.

[suburban]

turbohead what car do you have?

im sure if AFARCC had more time to sort their shit out they would have came thru with the goods. a very well sorted club they are

[BASSULA]

RB was NEVER asked to run the show and shine.. I dont wanna start shit fights so it doesnt matter.. I had a meeting with peter pike about 2 months b4 sports compact and he told me then that AFARCC was runnign the S&S and about running the sound off thru RB and told him about RB closing then and that I would still run it thru SXA only..

as for the show n shine was all good .. as turbo head has said.. if they do it again next time they have some more ideas for then

anyways as I said dun wanna start shit fights so no stress..

cheers

[FIL]

Joel, I believe the scrutineering and the show'n'shine judging took place at the same time. Seems a bit stupid to me.

Why?

It's the same way that Motorvation's run... And it really is the way it needs to be done in a car show that isn't just all static displays..

At PAS, most of the judging is done after the crowds have gone home for the night and the cars are being locked down, because even when there's only a dyno and spl crank outside, you still have cars moving around and you can bet that someone will compain that their car wasnt judged because it wasnt in it's spot when the judges went past...

This way... you want to be judged, you take your car to the judges.. it may not have been perfectly clear to everyone, but in that scrutineering shed were 2 groups of people, the scrutineers and the judges.. if your car was scrutineered, then it was judged as well, just by different people..

If you didnt win a prize, then I'm sorry to be the one to have to tell you, it's not because you werent judged, it's either because you didnt turn up, or your car wasnt good enough.

(No, I wasnt judging)

[FIL]

Mat, I agree with most of your points except the competitor entry fee. There were alot of people that simply wanted to drag race, Not everyone wants to enter Show'n'Shine or do the supercruise. I think there should be a $30-40 drag race only entry.

If the track hadnt been fully race prepped that morning, then there would have been....

How many passes did you get in on the night? How many do you get on a normal Wednesday night? And Wed night isnt prepped...


As for "not enough promotion", JME was right, the plex management wanted this to be a bit of a trial run, and were never going to be overly concerned about the crown figures, this event was about seeing how the competitors reacted to the various events...

(Suggestion: maybe they could use the speedway oval for _something_... thats a terrible waste of an arena, and happens at Motorvation too)

[TurboHead]

Sorry BASSULA - I'm just going on what Peter Pike told the AFARCC guys when they were first asked.... he also told them that RB were closing down at the end of the year, which at the time was strongly denied by the RB Prez and Dan R.....

But who cares - I know that AFARCC weren't looking for any cred for helping at the event - they just wanted to do their bit to ensure the event ran and was there for the small car scene, just as I'm sure you were with the sound off..... just a pitty that a lot of the 4,6,R owners didn't do their bit. Oh well - maybe next year.

[tomj]

[QUOTE=FIL]If the track hadnt been fully race prepped that morning, then there would have been....

How many passes did you get in on the night? How many do you get on a normal Wednesday night? And Wed night isnt prepped...


As for "not enough promotion", JME was right, the plex management wanted this to be a bit of a trial run, and were never going to be overly concerned about the crown figures, this event was about seeing how the competitors reacted to the various events...
[QUOTE]


why would you go the trouble of organising an event and not care if people came or not?

[Kel]

I know this is a little late, but anywayz...

The reason no advertising (as i was told by an official there) was allowed was due to insurance...each event has different insurabnce levels and they didn't do the full thing for us.

But now that everyone who owns nice/show/fast/ hardcore cars they can come in and compete...tell friends/bring friends,ect and numbers should be bigger, and also it will be a cooler part of the year!

[got boost]

finally sites been updated #8 in OZ RWD 2.4 ltr n over
http://www.hpi.com.au/drag_records.php
wasnt such a bad day after all

[suburban]

good on ya :)

[nastie]

finally sites been updated #8 in OZ RWD 2.4 ltr n over
http://www.hpi.com.au/drag_records.php
wasnt such a bad day after all
Sweet, good time.
Didin't realise still stock turbo!

[Kel]

Well done Sean!

[FIL]

why would you go the trouble of organising an event and not care if people came or not?
ok.. this is a pretty late reply... but basically, it comes down to this...
if your running an event for the first time, and you don't know how smoothly things will go... do you want 100-150 cars ? or do you want 550 cars?

I'd prefer to have 100-150 cars roll up for a first time event like Sport compact... because then it's easier to make things look like they're running smoothly..

basically, the first sport compact event was a chance for the motorplex to do a bit of research, and traditionally, that means a smaller sample...

[FIL]

oh, and having seen the way some of the show car owners behaved over the weekend.... lets just say they need to be taught some race track ettiquete....
for starters guys... the scrutineering shed is not the SPL crank arena... :)