University

[Gr3mlin]

Looking to go to Uni as a mature age student (finished year 12 but did not do TEE), and looking at entry requirements I'm becoming unsure as to the best direction to come from.

The course I am looking at has a indicative ATAR score of 70. (Bachelor of Psychological Science at ECU)

Now does that mean I have to complete a ATAR course or can I do the STAT? Now while I can find info on conducting a STAT test, I can't find anything on a ATAR course.

But some Uni sites say in order to conduct a STAT test you could not of completed year 12 while some others only mention a age requirement.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[Skitzo]

Just call the Uni you want to do the course at. They'll be the best ones to guide you through this.

[TJ]

Yeah every uni will have options - bridging courses etc, and the test itself.

[summoner]

Some just let you in like Curtin.. let me in years ago and still let me turn up even though I'm probably half assing my study more than any other student.

Other option is some uni's have a college attached that does a bunch of the core subjects/etc which will gain you entry then into a uni course

[Passage GT]

I'm 35 and I applied for and got accepted the Murdoch's OnTrack course this semester, being successful will give me an offer of study next semester, i'm planning on doing Psych as well. So far i'm loving it, I'm sure the other Uni's have similar bridging courses as well.
I know OnTrack won't get you into all courses (nursing purely because of the number of applicants) Law, Medicine and a few others, It will give you access to more options in that direction though.
To be accepted I just needed passes in my year 12 math and english.

[Sebdullah]

Each uni has different requirements, best option is as stated above to contact the uni you are looking at attending, this was a massive help when I sat my stat a few years back

[deeman111]

My Wife works at ECU at student services, i asked her your questions and she replied:

Tell him to check out this site - http://www.ecu.edu.au/future-students/pathway-wizard/rco

If he is over 20, he can do the STAT for direct entry as a mature age student. The STAT test result will be converted to an ATAR equivilant.
or as he completed year 12 he can apply to do the Uni Prep course for semester 2. (His Weighted Average Mark will be converted to an ATAR equivilant).

hope that helped

[S85FI]

needed passes in english.

Fuck....Ricey is the only pingpingpingping here with a chance.

[TheChad]

Depending on your age and what you've been up to the quickest way isn't always the best way in.
Doing a college/bridging course first might set you up much better for getting good study habits and regreasing the cogs in your head.

Speaking from experience.

[Passage GT]

Depending on your age and what you've been up to the quickest way isn't always the best way in.
Doing a college/bridging course first might set you up much better for getting good study habits and regreasing the cogs in your head.

Speaking from experience.

This is exactly why i chose on track over doing the stat test and applying directly, even in high school i never studied properly, several friends recommended doing it this way as it improved their uni grades considerably.

[Evman]

Graduated as a mature age student mid last year. I strongly suggest absolutely throwing yourself into the first semester, probably the first two (ie first year). Really knuckle down, develop good habits, learn the tricks and then sail through the remaining years.

[TheChad]

Graduated as a mature age student mid last year. I strongly suggest absolutely throwing yourself into the first semester, probably the first two (ie first year). Really knuckle down, develop good habits, learn the tricks and then sail through the remaining years.

THIS!

I studied every night for the first year and a half, got onto a good roll. Coupled with choosing to take an extra semester of bridging units I felt like I was on top of almost everything. Absolutely coasted the last two years and still finished my honours first class.

But again, speak to the uni. My bridging course had a couple of units that transferred to my degree which meant I was a little bit in front and that means you can do a couple of 87.5%/75% loaded semesters around 2nd/3rd year when you come up against the hardest units.

[masTers]

Before throwing yourself into any degree do the research on the job you want at the end of it all and the best pathway to get there. Also make sure your degree will open up the pathways you may need to further your studies post graduation.

Study never ends sadly.

[ML24WA]

Post grad studies, anyone completed an MSc/MEng through Curtin or Uni NSW, or any uni for that matter?

Only two uni's in Australia offering what i want to do, both vary in price.

Any general comments about doing an MSc/MEng for career advancement etc? Thinking of enrolling in either mid-year.

[shifted]

^^ entirely comes down to where you want to end up really.

I was thinking about it through Curtin when I was at W&GE however the managers there said it was essentially worthless as everything managerial would be taught on the job anyway. Curtin was offering a Masters in Engineering - Management degree. That, or a 3 year project (PhD?)

I stopped thinking about it after that, plus the $40k they wanted for the course didn't seem worth it when I read the course list.

Anyone done an online course for a degree in Mining? Thinking of extending out from Civil/Structural Engineering.

[TheChad]

Post grad studies, anyone completed an MSc/MEng

I guess it depends on what your bachelor was, and where you're at career wise? Most people tend to agree with what shifted has said, not worth doing a MEng if you have BEng unless you're hoping to cross over to a different field or restart your career / become a specialist. Experience is worth more.

[ML24WA]

Have a 3 year BSc, looking to do a masters MEngSc/MEng.

[TheChad]

Have a 3 year BSc, looking to do a masters MEngSc/MEng.

In that case yeah probably worth doing. I know if you have for example a BEng Mech that a MEng Mech is an expensive way to make yourself less employable.

[ML24WA]

Yeah it seems as if getting to a senior/specialist level (which is my aim in the next <5 years) that a post-grad studies are required, or 20+ years of experience.

[shifted]

Yeah it seems as if getting to a senior/specialist level (which is my aim in the next <5 years) that a post-grad studies are required, or 20+ years of experience.

What field?

Most of the Engineer's I've worked with have reached senior within 5-6 years of their degree, specialist would be further for sure but I suppose it depends on the field etc. I've only seen a handful that have a Masters and they're generally from overseas.

A degree or years of experience doesn't necessarily limit you in consulting. Years of experience/degree does come in to it but there's plenty of engineers out there with 5 years experience that exceed the ability of some with 10 years. Most companies have positions based on organic growth and performance anyway.

[TheChad]

Europeans get masters straight up. they do the 3 year Bsc 2 year MScEng. Most employers treat it basically the same as our BEng here.
UWA have moved to the European system for their Eng now too.

[ML24WA]

What field?

Most of the Engineer's I've worked with have reached senior within 5-6 years of their degree, specialist would be further for sure but I suppose it depends on the field etc. I've only seen a handful that have a Masters and they're generally from overseas.

A degree or years of experience doesn't necessarily limit you in consulting. Years of experience/degree does come in to it but there's plenty of engineers out there with 5 years experience that exceed the ability of some with 10 years. Most companies have positions based on organic growth and performance anyway.

I'm in geotechnical (mining).

Most of the seniors who work here have a masters of some description. Consulting for sure experience/masters doesn't really make a huge difference.

[Gr3mlin]

Before throwing yourself into any degree do the research on the job you want at the end of it all and the best pathway to get there. Also make sure your degree will open up the pathways you may need to further your studies post graduation.

Study never ends sadly.

I'm lucky enough that I already have experience working in the field that I want to get a degree in. Nearly 10 years working in the Disability sector with 4 of those years being Challenging behaviour/ Brain Injury.

So I'm hoping with 10 years already under my belt and a fresh degree in Rehabilitation it would make for a pretty attractive employee to a lot of companies.

[mARC]

Depending on your age and what you've been up to the quickest way isn't always the best way in.
Doing a college/bridging course first might set you up much better for getting good study habits and regreasing the cogs in your head.

Not always the case, I started Uni not knowing what email was, tutor also kek'd that I handed in my first assignment hand written with no references, got offered honors by the end of it.

First year is all about asking as many questions as possible, I'd also suggest forming a study group ASAP.

Bridging courses can be pretty expensive and timely, especially if they don't give credits in your chosen path.

[thommo]

Anyone want to go for me? I'd like a degree but I'd have to go part time and I think that'd end up going till retirement

[thrtytwo]

Looking to go to Uni as a mature age student (finished year 12 but did not do TEE), and looking at entry requirements I'm becoming unsure as to the best direction to come from.

The course I am looking at has a indicative ATAR score of 70. (Bachelor of Psychological Science at ECU)

Now does that mean I have to complete a ATAR course or can I do the STAT? Now while I can find info on conducting a STAT test, I can't find anything on a ATAR course.

But some Uni sites say in order to conduct a STAT test you could not of completed year 12 while some others only mention a age requirement.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I start a bachelor of psychological sciences at Swinburne (Melbourne) as a mature age student last year. I did the STAT test to get in, and I had completed year 12.

As mentioned, every uni is different, so if you definitely want to get into a specific uni, best bet is to just call them. But If you're not sure which uni, do a stat test and apply at a bunch.

STAT test was relatively simple, I feel like there are a lot of potatoes that do it. I scored in the top 3% of all people for the year without really trying. But I would recommend doing the preparation workshop that they offer a couple of weeks before the test.

[thommo]

What's the minimum study amount these places offer part time? Could you do say one or two units a semester for example to make the work/study ratio easier

[thrtytwo]

^ I guess there's a chance that some unis out there might be different, but I'm fairly sure you can do as few units at a time as you would like to. It's just not considered full time, which obviously wont be an issue for the situation you're talking about.

[Fukushima]

Some dumb pingpingpingping student told me their uwa masters would make them better qualified than my bachelor's degree in the same field.

Five years later she's working part time for 25% less pay...



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[TheChad]

Five years later she's working part time for 25% less pay...


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[RGVFAST]

What's the minimum study amount these places offer part time? Could you do say one or two units a semester for example to make the work/study ratio easier

Most places are very flexible with loading as they all want your money, will accommodate almost anything.

The downside in limiting study to one or two units a semester, is that it'll take close to 10 years to graduate.

[Alt_F4]

Thinking about computer science at ECU part time, combination of wanting the qual for easier career progression and filling knowledge gaps.
Anyone had any real success with advance standing based on work experience?

To be honest if I can skip most of the intro bs first year I'd be pretty happy.

[Dom]

I am at Murdoch atm doing computer science external, so might be worth looking at that as well