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Adr3naL1N
14-01-2016, 10:52 AM
Hi team want to see want people think is fair in this situation before I respond,
I renewed a contract with optus on Tuesday got a new phone, selling old phone on gumtree. was about 3 months old (bought it replacing a broken phone) was a grey import phone, came with box and accessories and the warranty card. It was a galaxy note 5. Great condtion. not brand new but very good condition.

guy comes to look at it, takes is time, he was abit annoying, looks over it then wants to connect it to his pc see if he can connect it, not sure why it al connects phone, spends about another 10 minutes looking at the phone in the settings etc, has another quick look around the phone before paying me and taking it. Said if had any problems with the phone I.e faults he asked if he can contact me I said yes if there is any issues you can call me with in the first few days. (in my opinion this means faults hardware or software, if the thing doesn't charge or speaker doesn't work, battery fails or wont turn on or similar issues)

Now he rings me this morning saying I want to return it there is a scratch on the rear glass and some very minor ones, I say to him there were no scratches when I inspected it while resetting it last night before you came. He says there is and I ask for him to send me pictures. He said to me I want my money back we agreed if in first few days if any issues he could call me. I said to him now that's if the phone is faulty regarding software or hardware. I then said to him you inspected the phone for 20 minutes looking over it. Your were happy to accept it as is in the condition presented. You had plenty of chance to see the scratches and if you weren't happy with the marks on the back you didn't have to buy it...if you have missed the scratches on the back you have now noticed that's not my fault. He just proceeds to say he is not happy with it and wants his money back. So I just said send me the pics because I don't think there was anything. I also mentioned you realise this is a 2nd hand phone and is not going to be 100% percent perfect! If you want perferct buy a new one which he just again says no I want my money back. I sold it for $680 so it wasn't an unreasonable price either.

so he sends me some pictures through and this is what I get. The first picture is in regular room bright directly under the light. Even when you hold the phone up close you cant see anything wrong on the back.
this is the type of light I used when inspecting it right before I sold it, I had looked at it couldn't see anything major that stands out. In the ad I put it was in good condition, there is no dents or scratches on the metal frame or on the glass on the front and screen.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B51beRwXT7VPSmJaZjhMVlVoaUU/view

he then sends me these two pics, he has obviously taken like the flash on his phone as a torch and is shining it right up close to show up any minor imperfections he can possibly find. These things you will never see in regular day use.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B51beRwXT7VPSk1wZ1Y4UGhLVHM/view

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B51beRwXT7VPekdVZk13U0JFNXM/view


to be honest im not even sure they were even there when I gave him the phone and maybe he has done this since he took it, the guy seemed very very fussy when he came round, he should of just bought a new phone. Like I said he had ample time to inspect the phone while he was there, the physical side of it, he was happy and handed over cash, obviously hardware and software I said yes to him to call me within the first few days but when you go to look at something you can easily check the the physical condtion of it before you take it. he wa happy so he pays me/My opinion he inspected the phone was happy with the condition and took it, if he has missed something he doesn't like upon inspection how is that my fault? its his responsibility to inspect it to a level he is satisfied with before he hands over cash, which at the time he did, I don't see how he can take it home then go over it with a microscope then say nah I don't like it. if anyone thinks otherwise let me know with how I should respond or if im not being fair?

-Luke-
14-01-2016, 11:01 AM
Second hand phone is second hand. If it still works IMHO he's SOOL. Sounds to me like (given the dicking around with the Laptop connection) He wanted the phone to do something it cannot and now he wants out.

magic1
14-01-2016, 11:04 AM
man up, tell him to take a hike. what a mong

shifted
14-01-2016, 11:07 AM
He bought it, had plenty of time. Not your problem.

Tell him to anally fist himself with a cactus.

p0630034
14-01-2016, 11:16 AM
Tell him to get fucked.

Tocchi
14-01-2016, 11:28 AM
tell him "phil pls"

Adr3naL1N
14-01-2016, 12:07 PM
yep agree with all, he keeps calling me

yeah simple fact I think is:
- physical condition can be checked before buying
- if your happy the physical condition you buy it as he did, if your not don't buy it!!
- if he missed something on inspection that's your own fault not mine you suffer consequences not me I shouldn't suffer because of your error, I let you freely inspect the item til you were satisfied at the time of purchase!!
- I agreed only hardware issues his trying to say it was for anything he deemed
- its second hand its going to have minor flaws. if your that fussy buy new.

EVLO
14-01-2016, 12:11 PM
tell him to buy a cover and move on with life. Also, if you actually decide to refund him the money (which you shouldn't at all), make sure he hasn't swapped out your working phone with a busted one.. :D

Adr3naL1N
14-01-2016, 12:21 PM
there wont be any refunds,

buyer beware!! caveat emptor!!

its his own fault he missed the scratch, anyway he is just fussy even taking into account the surface scratch its not a huge deal, any normal person still wouldn't of been phased by that as you cant even see it under normal lighting! its not like you sit there with a flash on it throughout the day!

Fozzy
14-01-2016, 12:33 PM
just block his number and ignore him

Demonvia
14-01-2016, 12:39 PM
Sounds like an absolute fuckwitt, do not give money back.
Not racist, but is he foreign?

d1mitch
14-01-2016, 12:44 PM
as others have all said, tell him to take a hike. with physical condition there is no guarantee that he did not do the scratch himself so you cannot warrant that at all. you were giving him too much grace warranting anything at all

-Luke-
14-01-2016, 12:46 PM
Dear Sir,
Please blow a goat.


Sincerely The guy you bought the phone from.

Adr3naL1N
14-01-2016, 12:51 PM
Yes haha he Is a paki, and he was planning to send to to his brother back home as well.

yep exactly, with regard to the physical condtion, I never saw that mark so don't know if he did that himself, his first picture proves anyway its not visible under normal lighting so its possible it was there however but even so its not visible in normal light!!! and if he was that concerned about the condition of the back he should of checked closer before handing over cash. And being that fussy he should just buy new!! his just being a tightarse.

Demonvia
14-01-2016, 01:01 PM
Yes haha he Is a paki, and he was planning to send to to his brother back home as well.

hahaha exactly what I thought

180SXTCY
14-01-2016, 03:13 PM
what a fucking arse clown. tell the pingpingpingping to jog on.

rgvlee
14-01-2016, 03:20 PM
Sure you can return it... but there is a $680 restocking fee

TJ
14-01-2016, 03:52 PM
1-2 warranty

ONEce you have paid for it, it is 2 late.

shifted
14-01-2016, 04:02 PM
yep agree with all, he keeps calling me

yeah simple fact I think is:
- physical condition can be checked before buying
- if your happy the physical condition you buy it as he did, if your not don't buy it!!
- if he missed something on inspection that's your own fault not mine you suffer consequences not me I shouldn't suffer because of your error, I let you freely inspect the item til you were satisfied at the time of purchase!!
- I agreed only hardware issues his trying to say it was for anything he deemed
- its second hand its going to have minor flaws. if your that fussy buy new.

Tell him you'll consider taking it back, for $340.

Sell on again for $600, make profit?

mr_mike
14-01-2016, 04:21 PM
Hahahaaha what a fucking goon, tell him to fuck off.

end of story.

huggy_b
14-01-2016, 04:28 PM
Why is this even a thread?
Tell the pingpingpingping to drive his car off a cliff and stay in the drivers seat.

TJ
14-01-2016, 04:34 PM
Married life has made you left Paul!

Timmy and Parker would be disappointed

Satan
14-01-2016, 10:06 PM
ask him if he likes his front lawn as it is

Adr3naL1N
15-01-2016, 01:59 PM
I just kept it pretty simple and called him a pingpingpingping

Byah!
15-01-2016, 02:21 PM
its a scratch...on the BACK of the SECOND HAND phone.....ignore, that is all

mr_mike
15-01-2016, 03:12 PM
if he continues post number......

Adr3naL1N
15-01-2016, 03:55 PM
he hasn't called me back since I wrote the message early this morning calling him a pingpingpingping