AFL 2016 Thread

[MadDocker]

Well, not a great start to the year for the Bombers or the teams that traded in Bombers players (St Kilda must be absolutely filthy.)

http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-12/cas-upholds-wada-appeal-essendon-anti-doping-verdict/7081874

I'm sure DanWA will be pleased to wake up to the news.

[SSICK]

DanWA's head just exploded with excitement

[DanWA]

AFL couldn't buy a result from CAS.

Hand back that brownlow Jobe, you filthy cheat.

[ossie_21]

It's just not fair that even if it will take a while, the club can come back from this but the players might not ever be able to. Their lives are ruined but the club isn't.

[Marcellini_96]

fuck :eek:

[American Dave]

Please don't cry for professional footy players who made their own decision to sign waivers prior to the injections. That alone will make it difficult for the players to sue the club for damages.

ASADA chief executive Ben McDevitt said the CAS verdict brings the entire saga to a close.

“This unfortunate episode has chronicled the most devastating self-inflicted injury by a sporting club in Australian history,” McDevitt said.

“There were very little grounds for the players to claim they were at no significant fault.

“The players had received anti-doping education through the AFL and ASADA, and were well aware that they are personally responsible for all substances that entered their body.

“Unfortunately, despite their education, they agreed to be injected with a number of substances they had little knowledge of, made no enquiries about the substance and kept the injections from their team doctor and ASADA.”

“Of 30 ASADA testing missions during the period in question, none of the 18 players tested declared the injections, despite being asked each time whether they had taken any supplements.”

“At best, the players did not ask the questions, or the people, they should have. At worst, they were complicit in a culture of secrecy and concealment.”

“The CAS result brings this matter to a close and ASADA looks forward to continuing to work with all sporting codes to promote a clean and fair sporting environment.”

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[The_Senator]

Paul Little and James Hird walk scott free...

Noice........

[American Dave]

Hird is still fighting with the Essendon insurers to try and get them to pay all his legal fees (well over $1.5 million)

[siladee]

Didn't Paul little come in after the fact to handle the mess?

[stormtrooper]

Absolutely rekt. As Dave said, they signed the waivers, they didn't seek outside professional advise as to the legality of what they were taking. Sure the entire process should have been faster instead of being dragged out for as long as it did, that was in itself a complete disservice to the players and the sport. Dank needs to be charged and never allowed to practice again, ever. Hird needs to be thrown out of the sport completely. Whole things a mess but the key people pulling the strings, making the decisions and ultimately signing off on the program need to be dealt with accordingly.

[TJ]

Essedone

[stormtrooper]

Hird is still fighting with the Essendon insurers to try and get them to pay all his legal fees (well over $1.5 million)

He's got 2 chances with that, none and fuck all.


Didn't Paul little come in after the fact to handle the mess?

Yep. He would have had compelte oversight of everything that was going on as well though. Isn't he a lawyer? Sure he was doing some dodgy shit to try get the club out of the mess, hence why he was there in the first place. At best his motives were questionable. Fuck him too.

[The_Senator]

He got paid for his 1 year suspension, even after having stated that he wouldn't receive any remuneration during his 1 year ban...

So it was a fully paid, 1 years annual leave.

He's done his image more harm than good..

[Adr3naL1N]

get a bad run of injuries Essendon may struggle to field a team lol. Rookies going to be working overtime, might be good for them but! Special concessions will be required for elevating players to the senior list

might put money on them for the wooden spoon

Meanwhile over at carlton after hearing the news:

http://www.workplacecommunicationexpert.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/office_celebration.jpg

[MadDocker]

Woosha gets a free ride this year to develop his young team. No expectations, can do whatever he wants.

I'm sure he'd be happier with a full team but not too bad of a position to be in.

[DanWA]

Yeah probably a good start for Woosha!

This one was a crackup
http://i64.tinypic.com/1zqbrtk.jpg

[ossie_21]

They will hopefully just declare it null & void, similar to Lance Armstrong's TDF titles or Olympic medals etc in similar circumstances

Hopefully this is a huge wake up call to every professional code & club to not be dodgy pingpingpingpings ffs

[MadDocker]

When putting players through an illegal doping regime, probably best not to keep well documented written records...

[Lmx]

http://cdndata.bigfooty.com/2016/01/205750_e3339364d4817336878623d8ec4d2ced.jpeg

[DanWA]

Good read. Completely rediculous that people are referring to the players as victims.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/afl/a/30552198/asada-boss-what-he-said/

[DanWA]

When putting players through an illegal doping regime, probably best not to keep well documented written records...

They didn't, that is what the basis to their defense was.

[XT43]

Looking forward to the player class action.

[The_Senator]

Class action? Is this a case of "not taking responsibility for ones actions"

Remember, there where Essendon players that declined to take part in the Doping Program.

Anyone of them could have Asked, Googled or even questioned the what's and legalities of the "treatment". The fact they did not, was the reason why CAS handed them such a harsh penalty..

[XT43]

As if there's not going to be a law firm that's going to be keen on representing X amount of players pulling the ' I felt if I didn't do it I wouldn't get a game / would be behind everyone else " card, especially if it won't cost them anything if they don't win. I wouldn't be surprised if a lawyer decided to do it pro bono just to shove it up Essondons arse.

If I was a player caught out, I sure as shit would try something as my ability to earn a dollar just dived ( past and present players as any past player won't be able to coach or have anything to do with footy )
Any legal action from players v club or v Hird personally would be welcomed in my book to throw the club or Hirds life in to more turmoil.

[Fukushima]

Any other professional is expected to meet professional standards ie health professionals must always practice safely regardless of what your boss tells you to do... It's on you.

So these guys need to take responsibility for their actions and really should have four years ago. It is disappointing that the club/hird tried to draw it out and get away with it as its only made the players suffer longer.

[stormtrooper]

LOL

"Thirty-four players will have no other right of recourse other than to sue the club which could probably be in the order of up to $30 to $40 million."

So appears they aren't allowed to appeal the WADA decision. Not sure they'd have any luck trying to sue the club when they signed waivers and willingly accepted the injections.

[Torquen]

I feel bad for the players, Essendon on the other hand I couldn't give a toss about. At some point the players have to be able to trust their medical team, it's the club that's let the players down IMO. Harsh penalty.

[The_Senator]

Apparently the CAS decision is final, and no correspondence / appeals can be launched..

I'm petty sure they knew what they where getting themselves in for, that being getting an Advantage of strength and stamina over the opposition through the use of injectable substance. At some point in time you have to accept responsibilities for ones actions..

[ossie_21]

Apparently the CAS decision is final, and no correspondence / appeals can be launched..

I'm petty sure they knew what they where getting themselves in for, that being getting an Advantage of strength and stamina over the opposition through the use of injectable substance. At some point in time you have to accept responsibilities for ones actions..

They can appeal...in Switzerland

[xr6tego]

Why should Essendon get any concessions at all with regard to elevating rookies to the senior list or whatever?

They cheated, they denied it, and then proven guilty. No remorse.

Give them nothing and let the club deal with the consequences.

[SSICK]

Feel sorry for the players? One of them was smart enough to say no apparently.

[siladee]

Only because he doesn't like needles

[Lmx]

Essendon vs Carlton for the wooden spoon, I reckon Carlton will win 3 games and Essendon 4.

[Marcellini_96]

http://youtu.be/fETReBEsBmE
LOL. 😂

[masTers]

The thought of a top up drug cheat (Crowley) for the drug cheats is mind blowing isn't it?

[Fukushima]

At least he took responsibility for his actions

[Lmx]

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Lolz

[Lmx]

http://youtu.be/fETReBEsBmE
LOL. 
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fixt

[siladee]

At least he took responsibility for his actions

As if he was going to fight a dirty piss test...

[DanWA]

I have no idea why anyone could remotely feel sad for the players

They were in on it from the start, they tried to hide it, they got caught

Fuck the cheats

[DanWA]

For those that didn't watch last night

http://www.9jumpin.com.au/show/footyclassified/episodes/2016/episode-1/episode-1/#autoplay

They touch on the finer details and more explanation

[Jimmy_S]

I'm just glad it's finally over with... And IMO, the right result was eventually achieved, although it would have been better to have penalised them immediately rather than years down the track!

[American Dave]

this whole episode could have been put to bed years ago just like the NRL did if not for Hird

[The_Senator]

Hird / Little and the Arrogance of both of them, and Essendon FC for allowing it to continue..

[masTers]

Hird / Little and the Arrogance of both of them, and Essendon FC for allowing it to continue..

This arrogance is still very much on show through Tim Watson and co's comments to the media. After being found guilty by an international body, they continue to hang on to technicalities and protest their innocence to the world.

[The_Senator]

Agreed. Timmy Watson is adamant that little Jobe *should not* lose his Brownlow.

The fact the AFL is even pandering to Watson is laughable. They are actually allowing him to come before the tribunal and "argue" his case of why he should not be stripped of it.
And now the AFL have invoked special dispensation for Essendon, an emergency Salary Cap top-up, so they can field a competitive team in 2016. If they get $6m more, then every other club should too. They cheated. They got caught. They lose 12 players - they should have to cop it sweet. If they where not so arrogant about it, they'd not be in this position right now.

[1JZVL]

At least he took responsibility for his actions

Indeed! lol :o

I think what has happened is fair enough.

Don't muck around and "try" cheat the system, don't look for stupid loopholes that don't exist because you got found out, don't answer wrongfully when asked/don't attempt to hide anything, don't throw all the evidence away and lastly, don't let Hird and any of the Essendon board anywhere near a footballer again.

Yeah sure, an itsy-bitsy part of me feels sorry (especially for those at ANOTHER CLUB), the players got PUNK'D, but it's partially their fault to, if you want to go around to Danks shop and get on the juice, then you're as bad as the board for not questioning the situation and/or you're in denial ("if it walks like a duck, sounds like a duck, looks like a duck...it's a duck" - the situation smelling of rotten eggs!)

Will be interesting to see what the convicted players make out of this, I also wonder what other clubs will now be thinking, those who've picked up one of the juicers?

Also,

Fuck Tim Watson....god he pisses me off more than Luke Darcy. Goodness me, I love footy and it's right around the corner, how convenient that all of this should happen!

[American Dave]

Tim Watson you are either a journo or you are Jobe' father...you cant be both so shut the fuck up will you. Bringing the game into disrepute still applies.......

[ho57ile]

I feel absolutely 0 pity for the players. There is no doubt in my mind they knew what they were doing was illegal. I research every drug/prescription I'm given by a doc and its hammered into professional athletes that they're solely responsible for what's in their bodys. Not to mention the fact that they refused to declare the injections. Enjoy the wooden spoon.

[DanWA]

Indeed! lol :o

I think what has happened is fair enough.

Don't muck around and "try" cheat the system, don't look for stupid loopholes that don't exist because you got found out, don't answer wrongfully when asked/don't attempt to hide anything, don't throw all the evidence away and lastly, don't let Hird and any of the Essendon board anywhere near a footballer again.

Yeah sure, an itsy-bitsy part of me feels sorry (especially for those at ANOTHER CLUB), the players got PUNK'D, but it's partially their fault to, if you want to go around to Danks shop and get on the juice, then you're as bad as the board for not questioning the situation and/or you're in denial ("if it walks like a duck, sounds like a duck, looks like a duck...it's a duck" - the situation smelling of rotten eggs!)

Will be interesting to see what the convicted players make out of this, I also wonder what other clubs will now be thinking, those who've picked up one of the juicers?

Also,

Fuck Tim Watson....god he pisses me off more than Luke Darcy. Goodness me, I love footy and it's right around the corner, how convenient that all of this should happen!

say that again

[/darcy]

[DanWA]

I feel absolutely 0 pity for the players. There is no doubt in my mind they knew what they were doing was illegal. I research every drug/prescription I'm given by a doc and its hammered into professional athletes that they're solely responsible for what's in their bodys. Not to mention the fact that they refused to declare the injections. Enjoy the wooden spoon.

Exactly why they are scum cheats, everyone getting the sympathy on because "you trust your support staff", yet they LIED about declarations and didn't consult Bruce Reid

Memory serves me correct, they got wicked ego on after man handling Carlton in 2012 while juiced

[stormtrooper]

http://www.watoday.com.au/afl/fremantle-dockers/essendon-fc-cas-verdict-exfremantle-docker-ryan-crowley-in-bombers-sights-20160114-gm6gfx.html

LOLWTF!

[siladee]

Why is that a suprise? He was going to play wafl so he's a decent experienced player with a pre season under his belt

[Skitzo]

Not surprised in the slightest.

[stormtrooper]

Didn't say I was surprised? It's obvious that he'd accept a contract from Bombers if offered, however it's just bemusing that even though the Bombers have been proven to be drug cheats, they're being given all these concessions to recruit more players and build a team for the season. Fuck them, they collectively did the crime, they can bloody well pay for it.

[siladee]

I took a stab at the meaning and tone of LOLWTF, I guess I didn't nail it 👍.They're getting 10 players nobody else wants, zfg.

[stormtrooper]

All good ;) I would normally agree if the circumstances weren't so severe. However this would be an awesome chance, and even moreso an experiment, that Worsfold could used to give the younger players game time and experience, and who knows they may surprise a few people. Bringing in some outside players to fill the gaps when the banned players may well be returning next year would be putting a lot of pressure on their salary cap I'd have thought?

[The_Senator]

Question is... How much is the AFL going to allow, monetary wise, Essendon to go over and above their Salary Cap?

Enough to lure some recently retired players out of retirement for that "one last shot".. Or just enough to get 12 or so "Newbies" a shot at some game time when they would otherwise be on the fringe?

[DanWA]

Crowley is actually a good move, his hunger will be high!

Before he cheated, he was pretty feared to line up against

[siladee]

Yeah I'm not actually sure how the salary cap is working

[ossie_21]

Drug cheat joining the drug cheats....the ironing is delicious

[huggy_b]

Yeah I'm not actually sure how the salary cap is working
#carltonfc #werecoming #salarycapless

[Torquen]

#visypayments

[The_Senator]

#bringbackjohnelliot #pigsarse

[Tocchi]

Crowley has signed to play with the bombers. Really pleased to see him continue his career. Just a shame it wasn't with Freo

[MadDocker]

Hope he goes well against everyone but the Dockers. Always been a fan of him and think he'll have a good year there.

[ossie_21]

Drug cheat joining the drug cheats....the ironing is delicious

Legit didn't think this would end up true

[DanWA]

Hope he goes well against everyone but the Dockers. Always been a fan of him and think he'll have a good year there.

He'll prob put in extra against the Dockers since they let him down hard

I to reckon he would be 1 of the best pickups the cheats could get for the top up season

Now to land Jamar

[stormtrooper]

He certainly won't be struggling to get a game that's for sure :D Good luck to him!

[MadDocker]

He'll prob put in extra against the Dockers

I think so too. Will have something to prove and knows more than enough about the structures etc to get under peoples skin and cause issues.

Oh well.

[American Dave]

Crowley should prove handy for the Dons (what's left of them) at sourcing various gear for the right price and quality. Reckon he should start another bar over in Melbourne seeing how successful the last foray went for him https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/26636753/off-field-issues-sideline-ryancrowley/

[SSICK]

What bar was he a part of?

[Adr3naL1N]

james Kelly former geelong premiership player has joined the dons as well

[The_Senator]

I'd get on Carltank to win the wooden spoon at this rate.. They are paying $7.50

[huggy_b]

Even though they snared Leuenberger, I still think they need a 2nd option in case he breaks down which historically is a certainty. I reckon they;d be spewing about letting Giles go now. Haven't heard much about Jamar either.

[Ko[R]uPt]

Drug cheat joining the drug cheats....the ironing is delicious

Yeh and a Pharmacist as the Head Coach

[American Dave]

What bar was he a part of?

Crowley was an investor in Bar on Broadway....but that all went pear shaped http://www.news.com.au/national/business-associate-mansell-says-i-havent-harmed-craig-puddy/story-e6frfkp9-1225863998383

[The_Senator]

Essnedon players to Appeal to Swiss court...

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/essendon-banned-players-consider-appeal-to-swiss-court/news-story/6b81964bed44aeea6760ddada397f9e3?nk=5224699e597b51 57edaa69eb7d935ed2-1453445707#load-story-comments

This would then let them play while they are under suspension..

pingpingpingpings LET IT GO.. You're all guilty as FK!


** Comments section is gold! **

[ossie_21]

Peter Gordon is a very, very, very intelligent bloke so wouldn't surprise me if he's onto something

[DanWA]

LOL trying another loophole to get off intentional team-wide systematic doping

Essendon... the gift that keeps on giving

[TurboHead]

They have a 2 year ban but as it's been backdated they only miss this season. If they lose appeal, I'm guessing there will be a new start date for the 2 years. Should just nimble it and move on.

[DanWA]

They actually haven't appealed yet, just trying to get noticed in the media... like they did when they were leaking shit left, right and centre during it all

[1JZVL]

fucking morons.

shame they and their lawyers didn't consider the situation before going off and doing some sneaky performance enhancing drug sessions at Danks....

[ossie_21]

1989 Brownlow medallist Paul Couch passed away today after a heart attack while on a bike ride, was only 51. RIP, terrible way to go

[Gr3mlin]

lol at Collingwood

[MadDocker]

Lol at Tigers so far also.

[MadDocker]

Got them over the line. Swear I have the reverse midas.

[Gr3mlin]

Rippa of a opening game to a season though!

Felt like I was watching a Finals game!

[ChrisGTR]

Seriously the rules of the game gets more confusing and frustrating with each season.
The umpires need to put their whistles away and only pay free kicks for the blatantly obvious infringements.

[huggy_b]

I'm wondering if the rumour of 11 Boganwood players pissing positive in the off season has substance or not.

[Sensible]

I'm wondering if the rumour of 11 Boganwood players pissing positive in the off season has substance or not.

If it came from Caroline Wilson I would call bullshit, the fact that Robbo is the one who brought it up seems to carry a little bit more weight

[Gr3mlin]

The fact that was also mentioned on one of the shows, was that another club received a memo that 3-4 players returned positive test results and it was in the low area when considered against other clubs backs up the claim.

[Lmx]

So... Www.vaughnlive.tv/afldude is easily the best stream for footy... But does anyone know an app that will let you play this on an iPad?
Couldn't find an app for Vaughnlive...

[Fukushima]

Can't wait to see if Crowley can still keep up with Ablett

[ossie_21]

WOOF!!

[GTB Liberty]

What a fuckng pathetic opening game by Freo ...

[tex]

What a fuckng pathetic opening game by Freo ...

As a doggies supporter it was so good to see us carry on from last year.

[MadDocker]

Dogs fans certainly have something to get excited about. Building something very nice there and great to watch.

Picked the Dockers apart completely and made them look like a very ordinary WAFL team.

[ossie_21]

As a doggies supporter it was so good to see us carry on from last year.

Thought I was the only one here :eek:

Can't get carried away after round one, but this is the best list we have ever had & those that will be best of the lot are only 19/20/21

[XT43]

Bulldogs ball use out of the back line was some of the best I've seen for ages. 2 / 3 handballs to guys running forward ( none of the old backwards shit ) and then a long kick to a lead on the wing / half forward line was refreshing to see. Hopefully it's a sign of game plans to come rather than the over use of hand balls trying to draw a man and break a line that we've seen in previous years from majority of teams. Made the Dockers forwards look like they were running on the spot.

[tex]

Thought I was the only one here :eek:

Can't get carried away after round one, but this is the best list we have ever had & those that will be best of the lot are only 19/20/21

Yeah I was really happy to see the form continue. Fingers crossed we can keep it up.

[DanWA]

Have been off the grid with no reception fishing since Thursday

Collingwood has epic drug problem. How they let them play the drug cheating Bombers on Anzac Day still is beyond comprehension

Caught the end of the Cats/Hawks game, that was epic, Dangerfield has completely changed the Cats so far!!!

Freo, well was pretty expected with Ross Lyon still in charge. Still refuses to blood new players. Oldest team in the comp just like what he did to the Saints. How Mayne gets a game is astonishing. Hope it gets better for supporters sake its been a long hard road since 95'. So apart from part time player and druggy Bennell who is really missing besides bringing Yarran in finally. Bulldogs on fire. Going to upset a few teams this year!

Kennedy with 8 already, good start! Kicked more than the whole Dockers team

[MadDocker]

Our leading goal kicker last year was in the 40s. Kennedy kicks almost a quarter of that in his first game. Reckon WCE got a decent deal for Judd there.

[DanWA]

Rumours that Bennell is on a drug ban, Buddy Franklin round 2?

[MadDocker]

Any injury layoff for Bennell is going to be a drug ban rumour. Could be right but I dont think so. He injured the calf in the WAFL game and the club said straight away they didn't know how long to get it right.

Soon see I guess.

[Macca]

9/9 tipping. Good start to the year

[huggy_b]

9/9 tipping. Good start to the year
The sun shines on a dogs ass every now and then.

[DanWA]

Epic Richmond Choke

Had a good laugh at this tough, media will get all up in it i would imagine

http://i66.tinypic.com/51wxs4.jpg

[UXX127]

More pics of girls bottom left?

[ossie_21]

It's almost as if Melbourne want to be eternally shit.

[Tocchi]

:( grrrrr freo

[DanWA]

Highest Subiaco Visitor score since 2011

Freo's first ever loss to Gold Coast comes against a FULL STRENGTH Dockers team

Wow

[DanWA]

Dockers supporters left real early and some are throwing bottles at cars... classy lot.

[huggy_b]

Dockers supporters left real early and some are throwing bottles at cars... classy lot.
Glass houses, stones and all that.

[DanWA]

Ironic to lose again by 46 at the MCG to the Hawks

Didn't hold much hope as only beat Melbourne there 3 times and Shitmond once in last 4 seasons

Totally rattled with no skill from the get go

Going to re-watch the 2013 Grand Final now to make myself feel better

[ossie_21]

Can't wait for next week now, reckon we will lose but if we can match the Hawks for most of it that would be very promising for such a young team.

Random stat - 76pts conceded in the first 2 games is the second lowest since WWII (Geelong in 1956 conceded 74)

[Fukushima]

Nic Nat was getting towelled up by Sandi (as usual) so he knees him in the back

Useless pingpingpingping couldn't even score from his mark


/ShanWA

[DanWA]

Dockers got spoon fed in the first half from the Umpires

Ibbotson took 2 dives

Sandi looking for early retirement by trying to take Palm Tree's knee out

/IntoTheInventory

[DanWA]

Well the Umpires tried to hand it to them in the 1st half but forgot that they wore purple

Then the rain came down and they couldnt hide the free kicks anymore with Eagles being first at the ball

[Gr3mlin]

Video getting around of UPF holding up a copy of that stop the mosque sign at the Derby

[DanWA]

Love how my previous post was edited by an admin/mod as a favor for someone

But i do like this

http://i66.tinypic.com/mafdpl.jpg

[Macca]

Love how my previous post was edited by an admin/mod as a favor for someone

But i do like this

http://i66.tinypic.com/mafdpl.jpg

It was edited because you were asked not to imply certain things previously.

[MMM]

That was probably the worst game of football I have ever watched.

Is there any chance any player can execute a skill that they are paid to do?

[Fukushima]

Roos next week. Could be round five before freo get a win.

[Lmx]

Roos next week. Could be round five before freo get a win.
Will be a wonderful start to the season if that happens (Y)

[DanWA]

That was probably the worst game of football I have ever watched.

Is there any chance any player can execute a skill that they are paid to do?

Don't exclude the Eagles from that either

The Eagles got opened up a few times like Hawthorn did to them last week, very lucky that there is big issues at the Dockers

We will NOT beat big teams this year playing like that

[DanWA]

Roos next week. Could be round five before freo get a win.

When does Freo play Essendon? I will cheer your lot on for that one!

Edit: Damn round 11 is a bit of a wait... Noted round 5 is Carlton so yep you should be on the board that round with ease

[DanWA]

Video getting around of UPF holding up a copy of that stop the mosque sign at the Derby

It was the actual banner from last week that they shoved WCE over the top of PIES

Why MCG no confiscate from these idiots?

Perthnow is all over it now calling it racism... where is a race mentioned though? Just as retarded as the idiots holding up these stupid banners at footy games

[MadDocker]

Had a good laugh at this tough, media will get all up in it i would imagine

http://i66.tinypic.com/51wxs4.jpg

You didn't mind it here...

Haven't been able to watch much this year, but, I hope the Dockers invest some time into kids from here. No chance of winning a GF this year so everything should be focused on having the best possible crack 2017.

[DanWA]

Yeah had a good chuckle knowing the media would be all up in it which they are yet again calling it Racism to which it has nothing to do with

Ross Lyon does not invest in kids, he will keep playing Pav, Mayne, Susan, Ballantyne & D. Pearce etc

[tex]

What a game between the dogs and Hawkes. Gutted we lost it so late

[Passage GT]

The game between the roos and demons was a nailbiter too, such an awesome finish!
some great games of footy this week.

[DanWA]

Roos/Demons & Hawks/Dogs were rippers.

Hope Murphy's injury isn't a bad one!!

[MadDocker]

Murphy looked absolutely devo. I don't think it's going to be good news for him unfortunately.

Fingers crossed I'm wrong. Would be a real shame.

[Gr3mlin]

You didn't mind it here...

Haven't been able to watch much this year, but, I hope the Dockers invest some time into kids from here. No chance of winning a GF this year so everything should be focused on having the best possible crack 2017.
Won't happen, Lyon even said in his post game media conference he won't play any kids because he thinks they don't have any coming up due to injury, moving on or some other reason. Interesting reasoning considering every other team has been able to do it.

Prolly knew they wouldn't get a game under him so jumped ship.

[ossie_21]

Matched the best swing for swing, apart from some terrible umpiring calls early on that could have cost us a lot more. Absolutely devastated about Murphy, in the next few days it will be one of 3 decisions. Hang up the boots, do a traditional recon & come back next year for a season or two, or try LARS & be back for the end of this season. Not a better bloke in the AFL

[MMM]

Playing young kids that aren't ready for the AFL is a complete waste of time and risks them getting injured.

Bring them up through the WAFL and only promote the ones that are playing consistently. Exactly what hawthorn does.
If you need to top up your list you should bring in mature age players that are playing consistent football in your local competition.

[DanWA]

Playing young kids that aren't ready for the AFL is a complete waste of time and risks them getting injured.

Bring them up through the WAFL and only promote the ones that are playing consistently. Exactly what hawthorn does.
If you need to top up your list you should bring in mature age players that are playing consistent football in your local competition.

Ross Lyon does not do that either

[Gr3mlin]

Playing young kids that aren't ready for the AFL is a complete waste of time and risks them getting injured.

Bring them up through the WAFL and only promote the ones that are playing consistently. Exactly what hawthorn does.
If you need to top up your list you should bring in mature age players that are playing consistent football in your local competition.

All the Freo young kids received their career ending injuries in the WAFL according to Lyon so it kinda makes your statement pointless about not getting them injured in AFL.

When your 0-3 you start need throwing caution to the wind, you need hunger and leg speed more then experience.

You say you need more mature players with consistent game time like Hawthorn, problem is Freo is already number 1 for age and game time on average and when the younger guys are seeing the mature guys getting picked over them they will jump clubs because they know most on average will get 2-4 years at elite level so they want to make the most of it rather then wait till mature levels to get a chance with one club.

It's only becoming more evident with time that he is going all out for a premiership now for himself then long term success for the clubs sake which is what exactly happened with St Kilda.

[MadDocker]

Premership all for himself to the detriment of the club?? I'm pretty sure the club would be more than satisfied with a cup.

He's signed until 2020 now so we'll see. He doesn't strike me as a stupid man and I'm fairly confident he'll have a plan to get somewhere back to the top in that time.

[adrenalin]

Seeing Jetta in WCE colours was so wrong.

Swans looking pretty dominant to start season. Hopefully buddy stays off the drugs this season.

[DanWA]

Seeing Jetta in WCE colours was so wrong.

Swans looking pretty dominant to start season. Hopefully buddy stays off the drugs this season.

Feels wrong for us to mate haha

You mean Buddy's "depression" ??

MadDocker: It would be about this time he bailed from the Saints so i hope your theory materialises, it is new ground for Ross to do this thing called development

[masTers]

He's signed until 2020 now so we'll see. He doesn't strike me as a stupid man.

Exactly. He has signed on knowing if he gets sacked, he'll get paid out. I am pretty sure this was also one of his main motivations of coming to Freo in the first place.

[MadDocker]

Only time will tell I guess.

Think he's the best option for us currently but will be interesting to see how it all pans out over the next few years.

I've been through worse as a Dockers supporter.

[Gr3mlin]

No doubt Lyons is smart, I rate him one of the smartest men in AFL. I always get a laugh out of the post game media conference because he runs rings around them. But doesn't mean his goals automatically match up with Freo. I just see him trying to snatch a cup now and wrecking the list for the next 5 years in doing so then rebuilding over the next two or so years and having a premiership cup potential team for 4-6 years.

To me the premiership window for Freo past when they lost the GF and especially this year with the new meta of winning.

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[rodent]

No doubt Lyons is smart, I rate him one of the smartest men in AFL. I always get a laugh out of the post game media conference because he runs rings around them.

He's hardly running rings around Rhodes Scholars though is he?

[DanWA]

Compared to the reporters he successfully trolls he is pretty on point though.

You can always tell when hes full of shit though, his eyes go nuts.

Anyway bad news about Murphy :( hope he has a smooth recovery. Poor Doggies can't catch a break.

[Gr3mlin]

He's hardly running rings around Rhodes Scholars though is he?
And how many of them are in the AFL?

Reread my statement

[apg39]

Did enjoy this little moment...


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cfv-lWWUsAA8x2_.jpg:large

[Skitzo]

Sydney V Adelaide should be a cracker this week.

[The_Senator]

Chances of Collingwood making the Bottom 4 this year - after building towards to top 8 last year.....

[adrenalin]

yes buddys " depression "

Agree Sydney \ Adelaide will be solid. Will give us more of an idea of where the team is at.

[ossie_21]

Have to wonder how much truth there was in the pre-season report of a high profile recruit failing a drug test at his new club.. No, this isn't a troll attempt either


FREMANTLE recruit Harley Bennell won't be available to make his Dockers debut until the second half of the season as he is set to undertake an eight-to-10-week program to rehabilitate his injured calf.

Bennell re-injured his calf playing in round one of the WAFL, just a week prior to the start of the AFL season.

Dockers coach Ross Lyon said last week that the club had sought specialist advice on Bennell's calf issues from AIS head of physical therapies, Craig Purdam.

Freo confirmed on Tuesday that Bennell would be out for eight-to-10 weeks in an effort to fix the calf issues for the long term.

The club also said that ruckman Aaron Sandilands would miss six weeks following the severe rib and lung injury he suffered against West Coast on Saturday night.

Sandilands is still in hospital after needing surgery on Sunday to fix multiple fractures and re-inflate his punctured lung.

Skipper David Mundy will miss this week's crucial clash with North Melbourne with a calf problem. He was ruled out of last week's Western Derby last Friday after suffering the injury at training on Thursday.

The Dockers are hopeful Mundy will be right for the round five clash with Carlton at Domain Stadium.

[DanWA]

It is well known it was Bennell, just like Buddy with the "depression" saga

[MadDocker]

It is well known it was Bennell, just like Buddy with the "depression" saga

LOL.

Craig Purdam at the AIS involved as well or did they purposely injure the calf and seek his expertise in recovery to cover things up?

[DanWA]

Dunno any details just seems the general rumor

Just sounds too good to be true being off for so long with a drug history like that

[MadDocker]

And a calf injury history like that as well...

Copping an injury in a WAFL game and having an extended recovery while the team is having its worst season in a fair while isn't so unbelievable. Not like he was in contention and copped a mystery injury no one saw and wasnt reported on or something. Also don't think they would of been playing him in the WAFL if he was serving a drug ban.

Fairly confident it's a legitimate injury. Doesn't mean he isn't going to get pinged for drugs but I sure hope not.

[DanWA]

The word is it was known about and only become media worthy about the calf when the b sample was in

Absolutely nothing wrong with you having faith in the team like you all put up with Michael Johnsons drug use etc and Crowley with his methadone addiction

[MadDocker]

The word is it was known about and only become media worthy about the calf when the b sample was in

You're aware he did the calf in the late stages of the WAFL game, there was footage of him grabbing at it and it was reported immediately as a calf injury right? They didn't wait until any samples to come out and say he had re injured and was facing some time on the sidelines, it happened as soon as the injury occurred. He's also spent time with specialists etc that have their names out in the media as helping him with the injury. I'd be surprised if any specialist would let their name be used like that without actually being involved with the patient.

I'm sure there are cover ups and funny things that go on behind the scenes but this seems fairly elaborate and involves too many people. All it would take is the Dr to come out and say "Nope never talked to me" and the whole charade would be over.

Following this, the club has a history of out casting people not performing/doing the wrong thing and not letting them around the main squad. Walters, Clancee Pearce, Sylvia etc. all were pushed to the WAFL and not included in the AFL side, rehab or training. Why would Bennell be different?

People will believe what they want to believe, including me. Just doesn't add up as some conspiracy coverup IMO.

[DanWA]

Neither did Buddy's "depression"

[DanWA]

Hype Heppell suing Essendope, this just gets better and better

Adam Simpson telling Eagles supporters to get into Vickery, get ready for either some boos or some broken bones

[Adr3naL1N]

Richmond are playing the slackest and shittiest football I have seen at team play all year. Pretty sure the local Armadale amateurs could give them a run righ now.

[Gr3mlin]

So weird remembering play last year and watching that. So flat footed is isn't even funny.

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[DanWA]

Eagles still can't kick for shit

[DanWA]

Carn' Norf

[DanWA]

LOL Freo 0 and 4

Jonathan Brown tries to stick up for Flog Lyon about not playing kids. Other commentator shoots him down because only 4 players less than 30 games... yet using injuries as an excuse for the poor performance. So moral is kids only get a game if one of the old blokes are out.. Exactly what Flog Lyon did to the Saints

Oh well Carlton next 1, at least Dockers or Blues will get their first win... Dockers supporters will carry on like a premiership if they win

[DanWA]

http://i67.tinypic.com/a3zipu.jpg

[DanWA]

Thought my team played pretty shit today but then i watched the port game... wow port are shit

Mind boggled with the racial boo-ing of Jetta

[DISTRBD]

Thought my team played pretty shit today but then i watched the port game... wow port are shit

Mind boggled with the racial boo-ing of Jetta

Your team is still shit ..

[DanWA]

Umpires trying desperately to drag the Dockers over the line, this is deplorable

[DanWA]

Never want to hear a Dockers supporter complain about umpiring ever again. The umpires tried so hard to drag them over the line and somehow the bottom team from last year managed to get the job done.

I do not like the Blues but well done sticking it to the Umpires and the Dockers!

Dockers 0 & 5. Big thanks to Ross Lyon.

[Fukushima]

Roos next week. Could be round five before freo get a win.

Um.

[DanWA]

Um.

I hope you had money on Carlton like i did, got a hefty payout!

[Fukushima]

Nah spent most of the match working in the garden.

not really interested in footy this year for some reason

The bits that I did see were horrible to watch. They've shit the bed big time. Problem with the new coaches?

[evoeata]

theyre saying fyfe out for 2-3 months?

[TJ]

It's all good - they picked up a new clothing sponsor this week

https://scontent.fper1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/13055387_10154112767756944_8160174995938012023_n.j pg?oh=bcab5205146555f7655d94c69c935253&oe=57AFB696

[Macca]

theyre saying fyfe out for 2-3 months?

Looks like he broke same leg as last time

[DanWA]

theyre saying fyfe out for 2-3 months?

Fark... i hope not... their only decent player and a genuine good bloke

[Gr3mlin]

Dockers 0 & 5. Big thanks to Ross Lyon.

They have Adelaide next week, 0-6 is pretty much guaranteed

[MadDocker]

Carltons skills were absolute dog shit and they were better than ours... the 14 year old girls in the curtain raiser put on a similar show.

Oh well. Maybe next year.

[Lmx]

a genuine good bloke
Not if you read some of the stories from Big Footy :P

[MadDocker]

DanWA was calling him a filthy sniper/dirtiest player in the comp and all kinds of rubbish last year. Changes his opinion to suit his narrative constantly and will probably be flopping back the other way soon enough.

[DanWA]

DanWA was calling him a filthy sniper/dirtiest player in the comp and all kinds of rubbish last year. Changes his opinion to suit his narrative constantly and will probably be flopping back the other way soon enough.

Being a genuine good bloke (which Fyfe is if you've met him in person) and being a sniper on the field are 2 different things, but i know you are only trying to troll because you are 0&5 so run along pingpingpingping

[Fukushima]

Rance must be a top bloke too

[DanWA]

Rance must be a top bloke too

Nah fuck that pingpingpingping

I didn't watch that game live only saw the highlights after it, what a "dawg"

[dmanvan]

They have Adelaide next week, 0-6 is pretty much guaranteed gonna get WEEKS out of the knock, knock .. OWEN joke.....:)

[Gr3mlin]

Fyfe confirmed broken leg and Johnson out for a couple weeks by the looks of it.

Freo best case scenario will be 1-7 after Round 8

[MadDocker]

Johnno requiring surgery also from what I've heard. Hamstring and medial ligament. Could well be game over for him.

[DanWA]

Debut player first kick in AFL is a goal on Anzac day against the drug cheats. Fairytale debut!

Hird's legacy is living on, Collingwood are rubbing the salt in harshly

[DanWA]

The Bombers did not even deserve to play today and the effort showed that the players know it.

[DanWA]

Saw the mini Fyfe interview at Melbourne Airport. Broke his leg again on the top of the plate. Fark.

Do we not have any good doctors in W.A? Always seem to have to go to Victoria...

[Fukushima]

We do but if you want to be training in a few months time you need someone special

Wonder if it's a warranty claim? :D

[XT43]

Plenty of good Orthos over here, was one of Ross the Boss's stipulations as coach.

[Skitzo]

Cheer Cheer the Red & the White

[DanWA]

Cheer Cheer the Red & the White

Punch your mrs in the eye

????????

[adrenalin]

Swans came out and obliterated them after fucking around for first half.

[DanWA]

Yer the lube got chucked out the window towards the end haha

[thommo]

Fyfe is gonna get caught up in another awkward position when he's back playing and leg will go again, his career be cactus

[MadDocker]

Probably a drug ban cover up. Everyone knows he's on his 3rd strike...

[xr6tego]

^^^ Yeah no doubt. You would have to be on drugs to want to play for the purple poofters!:)

[skidkid]

At least the dockers are in a good position to rest Fyfe for the rest of the year, not like they need to to win the premiership.

[thommo]

At least the dockers are in a good position to rest Fyfe for the rest of the year, not like they need to to win the premiership.

Could rest him indefinitely then

[DanWA]

Freo miss out on Hooker who will finish loyal to the drug cheats

Who is next on the target list? Mccarthy?

[MadDocker]

Who is next on the target list? Mccarthy?

Yeah, seeing as it's been widely reported by his manager that they'd be back at the trade table at the end of this year seeking a trade to Freo, McCarthy is a reasonably safe bet as a player they'll target.

From Jan. There were others before this along the same lines. - http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-29/cam-mccarthy-takes-indefinite-leave-from-gws/7124234

[DanWA]

Yeah, seeing as it's been widely reported by his manager that they'd be back at the trade table at the end of this year seeking a trade to Freo, McCarthy is a reasonably safe bet as a player they'll target.

From Jan. There were others before this along the same lines. - http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-29/cam-mccarthy-takes-indefinite-leave-from-gws/7124234

Any others you reckon would be in the scope to have a crack at?

[masTers]

GWS must be howling. Freos future draft pick (their offer for him last season) is now likely to be 1-3, and McCarthy running around with a WAFL team.

Patton must be a target for a few teams now too.

[MadDocker]

Any others you reckon would be in the scope to have a crack at?

Pretty much anyone over 6'4" that is keen to play for the Dockers haha.

[dmanvan]

and in breaking news the fat footy tragics.... now have twice the room to move and cupholders for their 'diabetus juice' .......:eek:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjbdjWbAExY

[Lmx]

^ people will always find something to complain about huh?
Too small, too big wahh

[ho57ile]

So I might be able to sit at the footy with out my knees pushing against the seat in front of me now?

[Passage GT]

So I might be able to sit at the footy with out my knees pushing against the seat in front of me now?
I'm not familiar with this, have had front row seats since the last Subi update, thanks to my nans mentioning bad knee's on the phone one time lol

[sethor]

No way the bench seats at Subi are 25cm wide.

[DanWA]

Zero and Six

[Breno]

i just came to see Owen introduce himself to the Dockers again...

[Gr3mlin]

Found it

http://i.imgur.com/bTrjD6K.png

[Fukushima]

I'm jumping on the GWS bandwagon. Great footy today.

And they play the dockers next week lol

[Adr3naL1N]

GWS

0-7???

[DanWA]

Wouldn't be the first time a Freo supporter had changed teams!!

Eagles are horribly shit but got the job done. Pretty worried about Geelong next week!

Carlton beating the drug cheats is just epic

[Fukushima]

Not changing teams but you have to be interested in a team in the competition!

Was rooting for the eagles in grand final last year until they failed to show up

[stormtrooper]

Meanwhile:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-03/james-hird-loses-bid-to-have-essendons-insurer-pay-legal-costs/7378780

Eat a bag of dicks Hird.

[DanWA]

Meanwhile:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-03/james-hird-loses-bid-to-have-essendons-insurer-pay-legal-costs/7378780

Eat a bag of dicks Hird.

Love it

[stormtrooper]

However word has it a private party has already paid/offered to pay his legal fees for him. Such a shitpingpingpingping

[The_Senator]

Mr Little from his "severance" pay no doubt..

PINGPINGPINGPINGS where in it together..

[Torquen]

Carlton for 3 in a row this week against the cold Pies! :D

[huggy_b]

Carlton for 3 in a row this week against the cold Pies! :D

Ease up turbo, you limped over the line against the Bad News Bummers last week......

[Torquen]

When you're a Carlton supporter you've got to be optimistic as there's not a lot of real hope :P

[SSICK]

Cold pies.

[evoeata]

Always good to give west coast a belting.

[The_Senator]

No 2006 Come-back this time..

And, how bad are freo?!?! Seriously...

[DanWA]

Eagles were never going to win that game...

Owen Seven... yet another week of the umpires trying to get them their first win to... another record breaker for the cabinet also... The first ever W.A team to lose to GWS in W.A

[Macca]

Owen

[Macca]

Eagles were never going to win that game...

Owen Seven... yet another week of the umpires trying to get them their first win to... another record breaker for the cabinet also... The first ever W.A team to lose to GWS in W.A

17-15 free kick count is not "trying to hand them a win"

[DanWA]

17-15 free kick count is not "trying to hand them a win"

The count is irrelevant. GWS got screwed hard as have a few other teams in the past few weeks playing the 2015 Minor Premiers.

[Macca]

I dont like either side and I actually thought umpiring was ok. Must watch different games than you

[DanWA]

I dont like either side and I actually thought umpiring was ok. Must watch different games than you

Maybe watch a replay with an eye patch off?

[DanWA]

http://www.afl.com.au/video/2016-05-07/ablett-the-peacemaker-with-angry-fans

wow

[Macca]

http://www.afl.com.au/video/2016-05-07/ablett-the-peacemaker-with-angry-fans

wow

Fan was swearing,! Ablett asked him to stop. big deal move on

[DanWA]

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[DanWA]

http://i64.tinypic.com/dep7wm.jpg

Lets see how badly Freo and Melbourne cop it this week

[Jimmy_S]

Wasn't there one of these threads without DanWA?

[adrenalin]

Swans cruising first half again.

Cant do that against the top sides.

[ossie_21]

http://i64.tinypic.com/dep7wm.jpg

Lets see how badly Freo and Melbourne cop it this week

https://cdndata.bigfooty.com/avatars/l/83/83972.jpg?1462758983

[masTers]

Jetta dropped

Dawson and Barlow dropped for Freo, and Pav rested.

[DanWA]

What happened to Lyon playing kids and trying to blood new players? Clancee, Mzungu, Mayne & Suban still getting games (and still providing nothing)

Saying that, first half & Last quarter was good by Freo, totally out played the C grade Hawks...

Went to sleep in the 3rd quarter and went from 2 points in front to 51 behind, hard to come back from that with Ross Lyon as a coach

Richmond next week at Subiaco should be an easy one, fuck off Owen?

Bombers lowest ever first half score since 1915... The James Hird legacy!

Worried about my own team with the Saints tomorrow, they are playing good footy!

[SSICK]

Why isn't Owen hungry anymore? Because Owen Eight.

Shamelessly stolen off FB.

[DanWA]

The AFL will NOT be happy that their team lost to Shitmond tonight.

[Adr3naL1N]

Brisbane remaining scoreless til nearly halfway through the 2nd, just wow. LOL at Justin leppitsch face when it was 61-0 pretty much said it all.

Richmond out of nowhere!! what a finish!!!

Probs not good for freo I would of pencilled that in as their first win but that win over the swans might give them the spark and a bit of confidence to get a win over in perth. They have been here once already so they should be well prepared to take on subi!

[DanWA]

https://proxy.bigfooty.com/forum/proxy.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fi487.photobucket.com% 2Falbums%2Frr235%2F2oogac%2Frihcmond-supporter_zps2ejumlom.gif&hash=b04339fa0eb2b95306f9e03de80e5208

[adrenalin]

Fuck Richmond !!!

[DanWA]

Wow epic choke from Port

Blues on a roll?