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dattoman
31-07-2015, 04:45 PM
I had a bit of a search and couldn't find much here about this
Even in the lengthy "what have you done to your house today" thread

So heres my questions
Anyone done it ?
Who did you go thru?
Costs and inclusions?

Daughter is pregnant and I want her to be safe and secure so would like her to take over the main house
I'll build a grandpa flat on the back of the property to live in myself
Looking at something 60-70 sq m (max 70 by the rules)
2 bedrooms and pref brick and tile like the house not prefab steel unless anyone has great reasoning for this way
Seems the costs are similar both ways

Thoughts theories and suggestions please.......

Fozzy
31-07-2015, 04:54 PM
Contact Ben Eggelston from Castlerock Building tell him Scott from Bullsbrook sent you.. He is a registered builder and does heaps of Granny flats in brick sheds so will be able to steer you in the right direction and give you a quote.

Blueraven
02-08-2015, 03:20 PM
Could build you a Modular home that size that you could move into in 8 weeks.... That's the only real benefit to modular, speed.

short-shift
02-08-2015, 03:32 PM
Interested in feed back as well.
Have been looking at this,
http://www.mcgrathhomes.com.au/wangara/psxp7bhruq3rn715k4nt4jkemk2ss2
$165k +

And check regs on granny flats, they have changed.
80sq/m max and that is living area, so I'm told ??

crabman
02-08-2015, 06:28 PM
Link to where you heard about change in regs? I recently got told by City if Canning and Granny Flats WA that the max is 70sqm (which could be pushed to 80sqm if circumstances justify it like disabled access and carers access blah blah blah)

I would like to build one but I want a modern house living area and decent master suite with a basic second bed and minimal second bathroom. 130sqm should do me fine but fuck knows how I would get approval. It's my backyard and I can't do what I want with it, great free country we live in.

short-shift
03-08-2015, 07:36 AM
I got the 70/80sqm info from our local planning engineer (Bridgetown) and he was the one that said It referred to living area.
I'll have to find the email, but laundry,hallways,bathrooms and maybe even kitchen are not included as part of that 70/80.
Give me a day or two to find email with exact wording.

short-shift
03-08-2015, 08:49 AM
Copy from email :
In accordance with the Residential Design Codes of WA, a separate Ancillary Dwelling is possible with a maximum plot ratio of 70m2. The plot ratio is the internal floor area excluding corridors, bathroom, laundry, store, etc. The floor plan you provided indicates a 100m2 area including the porch, so meeting the 70m2 plot ratio may come close.

American Dave
03-08-2015, 09:02 AM
We built a granny flat at the back our block when we had our home developed. We used APG and they gave us a great deal to build a 50 sqm 1 bdm / 1 bath house for $30K. Same look and features as the main house. We spent another $20K fitting it out. There are lots of granny flat builders out there so it pays to have a look at some of their work I reckon. Make sure you have them put a separate metre box on your granny flat whatever you do.
http://www.apghomes.com.au/mypod/venus

crabman
03-08-2015, 10:52 AM
Copy from email :
In accordance with the Residential Design Codes of WA, a separate Ancillary Dwelling is possible with a maximum plot ratio of 70m2. The plot ratio is the internal floor area excluding corridors, bathroom, laundry, store, etc. The floor plan you provided indicates a 100m2 area including the porch, so meeting the 70m2 plot ratio may come close.

See Granny Flats WA are already looking like idiots (apart from the horrible quality of their Booragoon display units) as I was told hallways and garage wouldn't be included and that was it.

I can see myself getting closer to what I want now, I wanted a small kitchen with a scullery on the side so I wonder if that would be counted as a storeroom. Same goes for WIR of main bedroom. I will need to talk to someone a bit more cluey on naming rooms correctly to bend the rules in my favour.

short-shift
03-08-2015, 01:41 PM
Yeh I think that's how it works, just correctly name sections of the house.
Although not cheap, we haven't seen anything close to McGrath homes for fit and finish, that is also transportable.
Just waiting for someone to say they are a mob of pingpingpingpings and I'll be back on the hunt again.

crabman
03-08-2015, 01:53 PM
I'd actually like a modular transportable unit as if the pingpingpingpings never rezone the area to R40 I can take it with me when I sell and chuck it on another block :P

mr_rotary
03-08-2015, 02:04 PM
I had a chat with our estimator and we can do a 70m2 granny flat on slab for around the $130k mark plus site costs. That's for a custom designed home to suit the block and your needs. Can do in either 2c/1c bricks, render, framed, brick veneer etc. I suggest to go framed as it's a 90mm wide wall vs 230/250mm giving extra space.

Send me a PM if your interested.

ivsmichael
09-09-2016, 11:28 AM
Reading this made me realise I never heard anyone use the phrase ‘grandpa flat’ before. I wonder why we never think of men wanting to live independently but close to their family? So then right after reading this I went on Facebook and this page popped up as recommended. https://www.facebook.com/Gregs-grandpa-flat-975610385842608/ . Look like it might be an interesting page for you to follow.

I have my eye on a log cabin style granny/grandpa flat, like this. http://www.grannyflatfinder.com.au/log-cabin-shouldnt-buy-kit/ . Brick would be fine too. I think either would hold value.

dattoman
09-09-2016, 04:43 PM
Mines up and I've been living in it a couple of months
Learnt a few things along the way let me tell you
Never built before

All in all happy with the experience
Just some finishing touches could have been nicer in the build but all in all... I'm comfy
Went with Granny Flats WA
Was just easier that way structuring the loan progress payments with the bank
Could have done it cheaper for sure... but I wasn't game to try build it and fuck around with council myself