VE + VF Brembo Brake Kits

[Brockas]

We have managed to secure an incredible bulk-buy deal which means we are able to provide Brembo brake package upgrades to owners of VE and VF Commodores. These kits are typically in stock and can be purchased locally or shipped Australia-wide.

Packages can be purchased through our store here:
http://www.empireperformance.com.au/92-brake-kits

Summary of the kits:

Holden Commodore VE & VF Brembo Brake Upgrade Kit (6-piston Front + 4-piston Rear) - $2,749. Available in both silver and yellow.

http://www.empireperformance.com.au/370-thickbox_default/holden-commodore-ve-vf-brembo-brake-upgrade-kit-front-rear.jpg
http://www.empireperformance.com.au/377-thickbox_default/holden-commodore-ve-vf-brembo-brake-upgrade-kit-front-rear.jpg


Holden Commodore VE & VF HSV GXP Redline Front & Rear Brembo Brake Kit Upgrade (Large 4-piston front & 4-piston rear calipers) - $1,999
http://www.empireperformance.com.au/378-thickbox_default/holden-commodore-ve-vf-hsv-gxp-redline-front-rear-brembo-brake-kit.jpg


Holden Commodore VE & VF Brembo 6-Piston Front Brake Kit - $1,999
http://www.empireperformance.com.au/379-thickbox_default/holden-commodore-ve-vf-brembo-6-piston-front-brake-kit.jpg


Holden Commodore VE & VF Brembo 4-Piston Front Brake Kit - $1,199
http://www.empireperformance.com.au/388-thickbox_default/holden-commodore-ve-vf-brembo-4-piston-front-brake-kit.jpg


Holden Commodore VE & VF Brembo 4-Piston Rear Brake Kit - $1,199
http://www.empireperformance.com.au/389-thickbox_default/holden-commodore-ve-vf-brembo-4-piston-rear-brake-kit.jpg


We also offer slotted rotors for these kits for an additional cost.

[Tre-Cool]

There is also a kit available to adapter them to earlier vt-vz. I have them on my vy ute.

seriously good pricing too.

[heavyduty1340]

Ive got the 6/4 setup on the monaro and it is sensational

[Damo 69]

awesome pricing for brembos

[jaba]

Paul is looking at producing his own bracket kit to fit VT-VZ, hopefully a slightly smaller diameter rotor and new brackets can be used to allow 18" wheels with the 6pot front calipers. :)

[DAN [GTI]]

Purchased my set of REDLINE Brembo Brakes from EMPIRE yesterday :) should be sent out in the post soon hopefully.

Complete shit-fight to buy them (not you guys). Went to purchase these off your eBay site and it kept knocking back my account / password, so had to get a family member to buy them on her account.

Looking forward to some real stopping power!

[jaba]

Standard offset Commodore 18" ? I was under the impression it was 19" minimum.

[Tre-Cool]

You can run them with an 18" on the front fine, but like all brakes offset needs to be right.

Rears are slightly bigger than the front so again it's hit and miss with your wheel design.

Paul if you want to copy the adapters I have. Give me a free set when your done as payment. :-)
to fit the rotors you just need to have the centre hole enlarged and some rings placed in the lug holes to take up the clearance difference between 14 to 12mm studs.

[RICEY]

Would they fit under 19" SS-V rims on the VZ ?

[The_Senator]

19" SS-V Rims won't clear the Brembo brakes... You'd need Redline Rims or similar..

[RICEY]

But they are fugly

[RELEASE]

Considering 19" SSV rims (still regret getting rid of them) fit over the 6pot AP fronts and 4pot AP rears, surprised the brembo's don't...

[The_Senator]

They don't clear, Dean.. the SS-V Rims hit on the caliper... That's why Holden used Redline rims... which are crappy..

I Put 6 POT Bear Brakes on, they clear easily.. so I could keep the SS-V rims..

Did not your AP brakes slightly foul on the SS-V rims and needs a little "clearance"?

[DAN [GTI]]

Considering 19" SSV rims (still regret getting rid of them) fit over the 6pot AP fronts and 4pot AP rears, surprised the brembo's don't...

AP must use a very compact caliper. There isn't a huge amount of space behind REDLINE wheels either (with the extra offset over VE SSV rims):
http://www.performancegarage.com.au/sites/default/files/blog-content/2014-Holden-Commodore-SSV-Redline-06.jpg

I have a set of SSZ wheels if you are interested ;)

[RELEASE]

yeah the rears had to have the back face of the spokes ground off where the serial number/size/offset etc stick above the rear face

[heavyduty1340]

As Tre-Cool said - "Its all about the offset"!!

Can fit fine with 18"

My Monaro runs the 6/4 set-up with 18" rims no problem

[thommo]

Fuck I love brakes, such a cheap deal. What's with brembo being so cheap? Even my 6 piston with pads and rotors were about $1900

[RICEY]

Would SSVs with spacers work? I really like my rims :(

[Brockas]

Wheel clearance is always difficult to calculate because the spoke design can be the determining factor.

To help out, I've measured the distance between the caliper bolt holes and the front of the 6-piston caliper. This should allow you to get under your car and see if they will work. Keeping in mind that the 370mm rotors mean they sit further out towards the edge of the rim than the standard calipers, which should help a bit for clearance if you have concave rims.

http://i.imgur.com/nXt7ujo.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/TZFBz7y.jpg

You need about 95mm of clearance.

[heavyduty1340]

Would SSVs with spacers work? I really like my rims :(

Are you going to be at Collie?

You could try one of your rims on the front of my Monaro if you like

[Brockas]

Boys,

We had a bit of a price adjustment last week to account for some unforseen price rises with the calipers. The good news is that we've been able to negotiate a direct supply line and as such can offer the original prices again from now on.

The first kits have already been shipped and a few more are about to be shipped (couple of parts on back-order).

Kits can be ordered through the website:
http://www.empireperformance.com.au/92-brake-kits

[heavyduty1340]

Got a delivery date for me Brockas?

[Brockas]

Yup, yours should be here by the end of the week mate. Game on for Collie :)

[heavyduty1340]

Got em Brockas

Bart is fitting them up on Wed - stay tuned

pm sent

[DISTRBD]

May be a good idea to let folks know they will need to source the caliper bolts to suit as factory wont work :)

[RICEY]

Redline Brembo bolts?

[DAN [GTI]]

So I am about to install this weekend... So with OEM Redline Brembo caliper bolts it will be a easy swap? I presume any Holden dealer can get them easily.

[RICEY]

Yeah get through me, cheaper

[DAN [GTI]]

Yeah get through me, cheaper

PM SENT

[RICEY]

Will get the numbers and report back

[RICEY]

P/N 92139080 these bolts are for the Redline Brembo front calipers so Im assuming they will fit the bigger Brembos but not 100%

As for rears no idea as the Redlines have standard rear brakes.

I can supply for about $8 each

[DAN [GTI]]

I have been doing some research overnight and came across that part number quite often

On the G8 Pontiac forums they use those bolts back and front for the CTS-V Brakes (4pot front / 4pot rear). Which are what these brakes are essentially

Thanks Ricey. I will call you guys soon

[DAN [GTI]]

Thanks Ricey for the part numbers. Went to city holden, spotted a glorious beard in the parts department and picked up the bolts.
http://i1343.photobucket.com/albums/o788/DanMPS3/IMAG0018_zps7f3ce1e4.jpg

I got enough for the back and front (would rather fork out the extra $$$ now and less stress later) and can confirm that the bolt thread matches the calipers. I will hopefully install this weekend, if I am not moving house, and will update everyone with the outcome.

[heavyduty1340]

Am I still going in right hand circles still?:p

[DAN [GTI]]

Am I still going in right hand circles still?:p

Hahaha are yours on yet?

Did you end up going with the 4pot or 6pot kit?

[heavyduty1340]

No- Hopefully tomorrow so I can give them a bit of a workout :D

I went the 4 pots as I didnt want to change rims on the ute again

I have the 6/4 pot set up on my Monaro - sweet as gear!!

[DAN [GTI]]

Awesome. Let us know how it goes and the Caliper Bolt situation so I can prepare myself for Saturday

[DAN [GTI]]

Ohhhh snap! Did you have to use Brembo Bolts front and rear?

[heavyduty1340]

Are we go for tomorrow Bart?

[Brockas]

I had his kit fitted up yesterday and ready to bleed , when I realised the kit had 2 right side calipers ..
This was my fault! Sent two rights for some reason.

Bart - will PM you shortly.

[RICEY]

This was my fault! Sent two rights for some reason.

Bart - will PM you shortly.

Two rights make a wrong.

[heavyduty1340]

So is it on its way to Bart to be fitted today?

Im off to Melbourne on Sunday and wont be back until Thursday night do wont have it for Collie otherwise

[heavyduty1340]

ho ho ho - nar get fucked :p

[DAN [GTI]]

Awesome. Should slow down considerably better and match the extra horsepower nicely.

I was going to start mine today but got a little side tracked when I went to get extra brake fluid. There is always tomorrow :)

[heavyduty1340]

Just drove it back to Busselton - Sweet - brakes are solid without being overly aggressive.

I couldn't stomp on them too hard as the old calipers and rotors were loose in the back of the ute

Got to head up to Perth later this afternoon, so I will have a bit more fun then.

Big hats off to Bart for getting this done for me as he needed to source the correct bolts, play with the rear brake hoses, and fit alternate front pads - appreciate your hard work :-)

[DAN [GTI]]

Thanks for all the information. Especially the brakes lines for the rear. Importantly the fact I only need to rotate them and not replace them.

I already knew the rear backing plate would need some attention to get then to fit.

[Brockas]

They look awesome behind the black VF rims!

Project Mu pads are a great upgrade. Keen to see how they go on the track next week Ian!

[heavyduty1340]

Pads are good but squeal badly
I actually reckon the cops will nail me in no time and neighbour's will hate me worse than they do now
Bart is going to try some a fix for me

[-Luke-]

What spec Project Mu's are you using? Im about to buy a of NS400's for my 4 pot brembo's and the last thing I want is a squeal-a-thon.

[RELEASE]

Pads are good but squeal badly
I actually reckon the cops will nail me in no time and neighbour's will hate me worse than they do now
Bart is going to try some a fix for meis it the compound that's like that?
I know i put some gray paste/lube on the back of my pads to stop the squealing but needed to be bed them in good too

[S85FI]

Don't any performance pads squeal? I thought it was the friction materials just not at temperature?
Im trying the pagids next on my car ( this weekend) and will see how they go. Even the factory M brakes squeal with a warning on the package advising so.

[monk_13]

My HC+'s used to squeal every now and then, used to take them out the back blocks, get them nice and hot, then the squeal would go away.

The Club racers are another story... Loud all of the time.

[heavyduty1340]

Mine are FUCKING loud
Everyone would stare when braking even with thier windows up
I bet they all though the was fucked
I can afford to get picked up as I would get a yellow in 10sec flat

[Brockas]

I also used HC+'s previously and never had squeel issues. Still use them in the Evo and they're fine.

As a side note, the pads supplied with our kits don't squeel at all, but obviously won't pull up as well as the HC+'s on the track.

[stumps.]

I also used HC+'s previously and never had squeel issues. Still use them in the Evo and they're fine.

As a side note, the pads supplied with our kits don't squeel at all, but obviously won't pull up as well as the HC+'s on the track.

Didn't you have those pads in the 33R on the ALM skidpan day. If so those things squealed like all hell.

[Brockas]

Didn't you have those pads in the 33R on the ALM skidpan day. If so those things squealed like all hell.
Nah, they were Ferodo DS3000R's. They were some kind of endurance pad. Worst squeel ever.

[heavyduty1340]

Pads supplied were to large to fit in the caliper

[S85FI]

Mine are FUCKING loud
Everyone would stare when braking even with thier windows up
I bet they all though the was fucked
I can afford to get picked up as I would get a yellow in 10sec flat

My pads squeal like a stuck pig as I pull up atbthe lights. Everyone looks and some even wind their window down and yell out can't ya afford brakes mates?

[Brockas]

Pads supplied were to large to fit in the caliper
Looks like one of the Ferodo pads was defective. Have tested some I have here with a spare caliper and they are ok.

[heavyduty1340]

Brockas could you bring a set down to Collie
I will bring the others up to compare :-D

[DAN [GTI]]

Looks like one of the Ferodo pads was defective. Have tested some I have here with a spare caliper and they are ok.

I am having the same issues with the front pads. Then are too long to fit inside the caliper.

I am going to try pick up a set of VE Redline OEM pads tomorrow from Holden or AMCAP (will take the caliper along to double check fitment).

[DAN [GTI]]

Ok so rear brakes are on and I will tackle the fronts first thing in the morning.

Now when bleeding these brakes is it inner bleeder then outer bleeder? Or is there a specific way to bleed them?

[Steve]

;1227967']Ok so rear brakes are on and I will tackle the fronts first thing in the morning.

Now when bleeding these brakes is it inner bleeder then outer bleeder? Or is there a specific way to bleed them?
You start at the bleeder furthest away from the hose going into the caliper - So the outer one first?

[DAN [GTI]]

You start at the bleeder furthest away from the hose going into the caliper - So the outer one first?

Yeah, I knew it was the Caliper furthest away, but not 100% if that applied to the bleeders too.

[-Luke-]

I usually bleed the inner first as the outer is fed from it. That way the outer is fed air free fluid during the bleeding process.

[DAN [GTI]]

So brakes are on and have bled them all. Good firm pedal when bleeding them, but when I start the car the pedal travel is almost to the floor.

Re-bleed them and they did the same thing. Firm pedal when bleeding the brakes.

EDIT - problem solved.

[S85FI]

;1228044']So brakes are on and have bled them all. Good firm pedal when bleeding them, but when I start the car the pedal travel is almost to the floor.

Re-bleed them and they did the same thing. Firm pedal when bleeding the brakes.

EDIT - problem solved.

Forgot to fit pads?

[DAN [GTI]]

Forgot to fit pads?

Hahah nothing that obvious. Re-bled the rear left and it had air in it?!?! After being done twice before.

So all good now, smoked my street out burning the top layer off the rotors. They are a great addition to the car and means I can add more power with no fear of running out of brakes.

[DISTRBD]

;1228021']Yeah, I knew it was the Caliper furthest away, but not 100% if that applied to the bleeders too.

I went right front , left front then the rears ..

[doriae86]

6 Piston front and 4 piston rear setup on my ute. Front rotors are slotted two piece, rears are slotted one piece.

Bless galvsport for the install work

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[heavyduty1340]

Got any 6 piston calipers still kicking around?

[Brockas]

Always do Ian. Let me know what you need.

[heavyduty1340]

Pm me a price for silver 6 pot calipers slotted rotors and pads to suit. Thinking of going 6pot on front for Albany Racewars 2017

[Brockas]

PM sent mate.

[br77]

Hi is the bulk buy still available?

[Brockas]

Hi is the bulk buy still available?
No sorry. This is very old pricing. The kits are listed here:

http://www.empireperformance.com.au/92-brake-kits