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DrKarl
20-10-2014, 10:08 AM
Got ants fucking everywhere.

Thought they were just coming out around the kitchen but now they're in my bathroom and they're not leaving.

Anybody here had any experience trying to get rid of them with the bunnings products or other methods? I've tried salts, and killing every one of them that i see. Baiting them and then killing them. Pouring boiling water down their nests out of frustration and bug sprays.

I went outside my house this morning to check if there was a nest outside my bathroom and it would seem a lot of ants have now made my home their home.

Currently not working, would rather save my money. Anyone had any luck with these things?

MMM
20-10-2014, 10:39 AM
The only thing that will kill the ants is this.

http://www.bunnings.com.au/amdro-170g-granular-ant-bait_p2963666

Don't waste your money on anything else.

_S9_
20-10-2014, 12:18 PM
+1 Amdro. Expensive but EVERYONE swears by it.

Joe
20-10-2014, 12:24 PM
+2 Amdro

Phyber
20-10-2014, 12:38 PM
Yeah we tried the cheaper gear and it was shithouse. Up in the hills and had lines of those 1cm long black ants going about 150m between sites, across the driveway and whatnot. Used the expensive stuff and popped em. Popped em good!


edit....more I think about it it was probably only 75-100m but they were massive nests and I was amazed at the distance. Must have all just died in the holes though as I never noticed loads of dead ones around afterwards.

xr6tego
20-10-2014, 12:40 PM
I've also had some success with the Mortein Ant Sand.

DrKarl
20-10-2014, 01:27 PM
Awesome, will go and grab some and see how we go! Thanks gents

SimonR32
20-10-2014, 01:33 PM
Amdro is highly effective for a few species of ants (mainly Coastal Brown Ants) in Perth.

If you don't have the species it targets it's completely useless and you will need to use a different bait or get a professional in.

volt_bite
20-10-2014, 01:53 PM
Coastal Brown ants
Tropical Fire ants
Singapore ants
Red imported fire ants
Green-head ants
http://www.garrards.com.au/images/stories/zone_files/basf/3611%20Amdro%20Granules%20brochure_FINAL.pdf

Also doesn't work on black house ant or Argentine ants.

stumps.
20-10-2014, 01:56 PM
Burn your house down

DrKarl
20-10-2014, 02:32 PM
Yeah good point simon, I cant seem to find an image that helps identify what i have.

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5598/15394765567_e5ac04082b_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/psocsx)DSC_0109 - Version 2 (https://flic.kr/p/psocsx) by iLovebunky (https://www.flickr.com/people/78556112@N06/), on Flickr

Lmx
20-10-2014, 02:34 PM
Yeah good point simon, I cant seem to find an image that helps identify what i have.

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5598/15394765567_e5ac04082b_s.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/psocsx)DSC_0109 - Version 2 (https://flic.kr/p/psocsx) by iLovebunky (https://www.flickr.com/people/78556112@N06/), on Flickr
Try it on a small area, if it doesn't work just return it to Bunnings. They take most things back without any questions if you tell you bought the wrong product.

volt_bite
20-10-2014, 02:40 PM
Looks like a coastal brown ant, but im no expert:
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=coastal+brown+ant&espv=2&biw=1920&bih=1019&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=Uq5EVN-RIMSVmwXH2ICwBg&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ

Jmoore
20-10-2014, 03:40 PM
only thing with amdro is check the expiration date

If you read the detailed instructions that come with it they also mention that effectiveness decreases significantly 3 months or so after opening

but in that first 3 months its the shiz.

evo5aurus
20-10-2014, 03:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KAVZEiIjk8

SimonR32
20-10-2014, 04:13 PM
http://deewhypestcontrol.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/ants.jpg

Coastal browns have 2 very distinct classes (see above) which is how to easily identify them. Little bit hard to be sure from your photo but I'd imagine they are Coastals

TurboHead
20-10-2014, 07:01 PM
Anyone know what people can get for white ants? Spotted some activity in the bush near my shed and want to hit them early.

S85FI
20-10-2014, 07:39 PM
Yeah good point simon, I cant seem to find an image that helps identify what i have.

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5598/15394765567_e5ac04082b_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/psocsx)DSC_0109 - Version 2 (https://flic.kr/p/psocsx) by iLovebunky (https://www.flickr.com/people/78556112@N06/), on Flickr

Looks like two dead ants and not coastal. ..

HotAe92
20-10-2014, 09:38 PM
Just bought Amdro on the weekend funnily enough after being recommended by a work colleague.

Going to go postal on these Coastal Browns!

S85FI
20-10-2014, 10:23 PM
Had a look in the shed and i use farmshield and Lawsban.
Seems to work. Actually seems to kill every kind of creepy crawly?
Not sure what expensive is but it's around 100 bucks for 1.lt.
I mix it at 1ml per lt of water.

Greg Rust
21-10-2014, 08:01 AM
We just had new paving done on the side of the house, I'm going to tip a load of Bifenthrin down there to stop any termites and other crawling things.

SimonR32
21-10-2014, 08:15 AM
Had a look in the shed and i use farmshield and Lawsban.
Seems to work. Actually seems to kill every kind of creepy crawly?
Not sure what expensive is but it's around 100 bucks for 1.lt.
I mix it at 1ml per lt of water.

Farmshield is Bifenthrin so is a general purpose repellent insecticide. Will kill some and repel others, generally won't knock out nests and they will be back. Should be 5-10ml per litre not 1ml

Lawsban? No idea, never heard of it. I'm hoping you don't mean Dursban?

The_Senator
21-10-2014, 08:21 AM
I think he is referring to LORSBAN... Not LAWSBAN.. However I thought that was used on crops...

Just Googled Dorsban... Controls white ants... But I am thinking it was BAD as the websites I quickly perused all list "This product is no longer available etc..." and then this "was stopped because of accumulating research linking it with serious health problems"....

SimonR32
21-10-2014, 08:25 AM
Makes sense, just googled and Lorsban is Chlorpyrifos, so is the Dursban I mentioned.

Do not want!

S85FI
21-10-2014, 08:32 AM
Farmshield is Bifenthrin so is a general purpose repellent insecticide. Will kill some and repel others, generally won't knock out nests and they will be back. Should be 5-10ml per litre not 1ml

Lawsban? No idea, never heard of it. I'm hoping you don't mean Dursban?

I alternate applications every few months.

What senator said for correct spelling.

1ml per lt of water is whats on the mixing guide. Checked this morning. Also known as Dursban.
Seems to work.... :(

I spay it everywhere... don't get fruit flies on the fruit trees and the vegie patch doesn't get insect infestation either.

SimonR32
21-10-2014, 09:11 AM
Works highly effectively, it's the long term health implications that are the issue.

heavyduty1340
21-10-2014, 09:16 AM
Fucking argentine ants are the most hated thing to me - the fuckers ruined my last house hence I sold the fucker - they got into everything and half destroyed a bitumen driveway, all the paving sunk etc, nothing inside the house wa safe from them - cnuts drove me insane.

Even used arsenic dust through the house, but 12months later the fuckers were back on steriods!!

S85FI
21-10-2014, 09:17 AM
The Australia Government Pesticides and Vetinary Medicine's Authority has a good read on Lorsban.

Im short.. potent.
Residential application not to be mixed at more than 50g per litre.
Pending of plant up to 14 days before human consumption
Arial application 10-50 ml per hectare
Not illegal for domestic application but not recommended due to strict mixes.

Tested on fish, chicken, cows, dogs, rats etc where they were fed the stuff at controlled small levels. Females were affected by becoming less fertile.

Small doses nothing occured. Large doses things grew 10 legs 6 eye balls and the usual death. Lots of pages of the different animals they tested on. 619 pages of stuff they tested on. Train reading time.

Explains when I poured some in my fish pond why they were floating. ..

S85FI
21-10-2014, 09:42 AM
Awesomeness this stuff.

Used in concentrated levels for chemical warefare. Shuts down the nervous system...

New thought just came to life for my possum friend.

"Mix 10g into a small clump of bran powder to form a wet dough clump"

Torquen
21-10-2014, 01:50 PM
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/1d/1d99abc952c188da6c78f879d59cdc47926061a6bd88a5c47b 85e2a1ce7e7f50.jpg