View Full Version : Racewars Dyno Day 8th March
Buckets
10-01-2014, 01:07 PM
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In conjunction with WA Performance we're pleased to announce the first of our pre Racewars events. Much like the Antilag Dyno day a few years back we'll be running around 40 cars through across the day. It's a great opportunity to see who can torque the torque and size up some of the competition for the main event.
We'll also be launching the volunteer sign ups at the dyno day as well.
In short it will be a great day for all involved and I hope to see a good turnout from the Antilag crew.
To enter or for more info email dyno@racewars.com.au
SimonR32
10-01-2014, 01:40 PM
2WD only :(
Oh wait, I have a R32 GTR :)
Oh wait, it's a roller = -300hp :(
Lonewolf
10-01-2014, 01:42 PM
Keen for lowest hp honors
more keen if theres a hp/l naturally aspirated award
Tocchi
10-01-2014, 02:00 PM
In. Byo respiratory devices
p0630034
10-01-2014, 02:10 PM
Will pop by to have a look and maybe take some snaps as well.
Evman
10-01-2014, 02:24 PM
Keen
beatle
10-01-2014, 03:18 PM
Keen to see how well calibrated my butt dyno is
n1ghth4wk
10-01-2014, 03:37 PM
Will drop front shaft out. Bring earplugs.
S85FI
10-01-2014, 03:37 PM
10 minutes from home. Keen. Put the D22 beast on it. Win prize for 40 rwhp in low range.
Riggs
10-01-2014, 04:09 PM
Will swing by for a squiz, I missed the last one!
Lasoya
10-01-2014, 04:17 PM
Buckets are you after any helpers for the day? PM me if need be :)
Evman
10-01-2014, 04:30 PM
Can I run two cars? Id like to see if me beetle cracks double figures :p
Damo 69
10-01-2014, 04:40 PM
In. Byo respiratory devices
Not sure if van or drag car
beatle
10-01-2014, 04:43 PM
Can I run two cars? Id like to see if me beetle cracks double figures :p
I'll bring my Swift, it can be a Beetle Vs Beatle battle!
Miggy
10-01-2014, 04:45 PM
Keen for lowest hp honors
We'll see about that, Email sent :p
Buckets
10-01-2014, 04:52 PM
I will chuck my 20yr old ~330,000km, automatic 4cyl of sluggishness on the rollers and dominate the lowest HP category. Do not even bother to challenge me, that crown is mine ! :D
Tocchi
10-01-2014, 05:21 PM
Not sure if van or drag car
this should answer your question :)
http://tinypic.com/r/2hque8l/5
SeSaR
10-01-2014, 05:45 PM
Keen to Enter
magic1
10-01-2014, 05:46 PM
Yes we will be looking for helpers.
email dyno@racewars.com.au
huggy_b
10-01-2014, 07:00 PM
Yes we will be looking for helpers.
email dyno@racewars.com.au
Will help out where I can, I doubt Datto will be operational by then.....
Evman
10-01-2014, 09:11 PM
I'll bring my Swift, it can be a Beetle Vs Beatle battle!
I will chuck my 20yr old ~330,000km, automatic 4cyl of sluggishness on the rollers and dominate the lowest HP category. Do not even bother to challenge me, that crown is mine ! :D
Looks like I'll have to up my game and downgrade the 37kw 1600 to an 18kw 1100
http://i622.photobucket.com/albums/tt310/Kobold-Bard/Its-On-Now-Chaps.jpg
Lasoya
10-01-2014, 10:22 PM
Yes we will be looking for helpers.
email dyno@racewars.com.au
Email sent Tristan :)
Fukushima
10-01-2014, 11:18 PM
excellent timing, I can blow up my RB26 and have Josh build me an RB28 by April
Buckets
10-01-2014, 11:45 PM
excellent timing, I can blow up my RB26 and have Josh build me an RB28 by April
Sarah likes this !
Socrates
11-01-2014, 07:58 PM
Keen to spectate!
Yakky Bear
11-01-2014, 08:23 PM
might enter and break a gearbox on the dyno haha
Tones
11-01-2014, 08:25 PM
im not helping put a new one in ya mutt
SSICK
13-01-2014, 09:27 AM
Will be there to give Mitch a hand or two.
Is there going to be engine type/size/aspiration classes or or just a go and show deal
Damo 69
14-01-2014, 06:02 AM
Is there going to be engine type/size/aspiration classes or or just a go and show deal
You will be a shoe in for the most hectic LS for sure
Theres a class for most hectic LS..... Off to supercheap i go then
Lonewolf
14-01-2014, 09:44 PM
is there a confirmation for who is entered?
Edit: nevermind just got email :)
Tocchi
14-01-2014, 11:38 PM
got the emai. PAID :)
time to get some 17" territory stockies (larger sidewall profile than standard stockies) ... don't want another MV spec chassis/gearbox beaching
Miggy
15-01-2014, 07:00 AM
Paid, lowest HP here I come!
Evman
15-01-2014, 04:43 PM
Paid
supra_jza70
17-01-2014, 11:32 AM
Paid
huggy_b
17-01-2014, 12:29 PM
Have Joe and Marc entered their hi-tec pushies for an exhibition pedal off?
American Dave
17-01-2014, 03:03 PM
Will ProSon Racing Team be making an appearance ?
huggy_b
17-01-2014, 03:22 PM
Will ProSon Racing Team be making an appearance ?
Only if the pedal off needs a third entrant?
cplagz
18-01-2014, 07:45 AM
Have Joe and Marc entered their hi-tec pushies for an exhibition pedal off?
Joe knows he will lose 😋
Will not be attending let alone entering
Miggy
21-01-2014, 08:10 AM
Got an Email to pay from Rhett on the 14th so i paid on the 15th and sent an email confirming I paid then got another email from Tristan to pay but I assume it's all good?
Got an Email to pay from Rhett on the 14th so i paid on the 15th and sent an email confirming I paid then got another email from Tristan to pay but I assume it's all good?
Got scammed by Rhett bro
Rhett hasnt been on antilag in months man
S85FI
21-01-2014, 12:18 PM
Got a new misses or too busy. Trolling people here... haha.
SimonR32
21-01-2014, 12:50 PM
Rhett hasnt been on antilag in months man
http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy15/SimonR32GTR/Capture_zps9ef5d02a.jpg (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/SimonR32GTR/media/Capture_zps9ef5d02a.jpg.html)
In other news paid today :)
I duno if anyone knows or if anyone goes to it on here but this is on at the same time as gazzanats.
fourseven
21-01-2014, 02:50 PM
LOL!
Tristan's not very good with computers. But if you've paid, he should send you a confirmation email once the money has landed.
xox
http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy15/SimonR32GTR/Capture_zps9ef5d02a.jpg (http://s773.photobucket.com/user/SimonR32GTR/media/Capture_zps9ef5d02a.jpg.html)
In other news paid today :)
Simons sarcasm detector is not as good as his built 2.8
magic1
21-01-2014, 05:19 PM
i go ok with computers.
S85FI
21-01-2014, 08:19 PM
i go ok with computers.
Slipping on the grammatical responses ;)
masTers
24-01-2014, 10:41 PM
IN, Buckets is picking up my tab.
Like Buckets and Bassula can kill an RB20 anyway.
Keen to see results xoxo.
BASSULA
27-01-2014, 08:35 PM
IN, Buckets is picking up my tab.
Like Buckets and Bassula can kill an RB20 anyway.
Keen to see results xoxo.
Challenge Accepted ? Mr Salter I need to organise an entry for the 31
Buckets
27-01-2014, 08:47 PM
Yeh the 31 is sorted Bassula.
magic1
09-02-2014, 03:05 PM
Classes:
· Ultimate POWER
· Highest Hp/L N/A
· Highest Hp/L F/I
· 0 to 2L class F/I
· 2.1 to 2.5L class F/I
· 2.6 to 5L class F/I
· Over 5L Class F/I
· Knock Knock........Who's there
· lowest power
We still have some places left, put your car on the Dyno to have a chance of winning some great prizes!
It has been 3 years since the last dyno day..... don't miss out.
To enter email: dyno@racewars.com.au
Slow RB25
09-02-2014, 08:30 PM
Is there an entry list yet? I would be in if I was going to be in town.
Buckets
10-02-2014, 05:55 PM
Is there an entry list yet? I would be in if I was going to be in town.
Haven't gone over the list myself but this is what I'm currently planning on entering at this stage :D
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1/1010095_515095128612039_1158138420_n.jpg
The take up has been pretty slack to be honest so there are spots left. Don't be shy people it's cheap dyno time if nothing else.
huggy_b
10-02-2014, 06:04 PM
I've bought a junker E92 335i to throw on the dyno just so I can join in.
Evman
10-02-2014, 07:44 PM
If there was a student or multi-vehicle discount I'd totes enter the beetle for lols :D
Demonstration class
Tones
10-02-2014, 10:48 PM
If i knew my car was going to be in town I would enter, but at this point in time when its finished and shipped I have no idea but hoping its ready for racewars itself :(
Buckets
10-02-2014, 11:02 PM
If i knew my car was going to be in town I would enter, but at this point in time when its finished and shipped I have no idea but hoping its ready for racewars itself :(
Going to ring PAC tomorrow and do some yelling :p
Tones
11-02-2014, 01:23 AM
Already did today. Told it should be ready by the end of the week. But it was ment to be ready on the 27th January. Hoping, it will be ready by the end of the week, then a week + for transport
NoOg_sTaR
11-02-2014, 11:01 AM
Fuck it E85 tune isn't happening for a while. Lets see how much 400USinternetHP actually is.
In before 150hp tears.
Tre-Cool
11-02-2014, 06:06 PM
sent email, keen to see how long the stock block in my brothers car lasts....
TheChad
11-02-2014, 08:56 PM
I am considering coming to this. Dust out the guts of the rb30.
Fuck it E85 tune isn't happening for a while. Lets see how much 400USinternetHP actually is.
In before 150hp tears.
N54wars !
S85FI
11-02-2014, 10:32 PM
N54wars !
Then along came a S85 :p
Lonewolf
11-02-2014, 10:43 PM
Then along came a S85 :p
fraid you're not allowed to enter, too much hp/L :(
S85FI
12-02-2014, 09:40 AM
fraid you're not allowed to enter, too much hp/L :(
There would have to be heaps of cammed fords and holdens which surely would deliver more?
Buckets
12-02-2014, 09:54 AM
Rotors should dominate the hp per litre.
Lonewolf
12-02-2014, 10:05 AM
There would have to be heaps of cammed fords and holdens which surely would deliver more?
Dunno, not that well versed in the v8 aftermarket, is 100+ hp/L easily doable?
Rotors should dominate the hp per litre.
No multiplier i take it then?
SimonR32
12-02-2014, 10:09 AM
Rotors should dominate the hp per litre.
Don't get me started on that argument. Mazda is worse than a Forge Group accountant at fudging figures
S85FI
12-02-2014, 10:15 AM
Dunno, not that well versed in the v8 aftermarket, is 100+ hp/L easily doable?
No multiplier i take it then?
No idea. I'm not that well versed with the Australian market either. Don't the v8 holden boys crack 600 + or are they all forces induction?
Damo 69
12-02-2014, 10:35 AM
No idea. I'm not that well versed with the Australian market either. Don't the v8 holden boys crack 600 + or are they all forces induction?
Formula tech do
Buckets
12-02-2014, 10:58 AM
Don't get me started on that argument. Mazda is worse than a Forge Group accountant at fudging figures
No worse than you and your "stock" motor...
S85FI
12-02-2014, 11:43 AM
Formula tech do
Mate had a blower put on by them.... It was great, misses all the time, dyno graph looks like a stock exchange weekly trading graph and idle is really stable.... at 1400rpm.
Now they tell him they are too busy....
Make it personal or cut the losses I told him.
Yakky Bear
12-02-2014, 02:54 PM
Cars in for e85 switch over. Should be ready in time.
huggy_b
12-02-2014, 06:06 PM
Cars in for e85 switch over. Should be ready in time.
I'll say a prayer for your gearbox!
Lonewolf
12-02-2014, 06:34 PM
Cars in for e85 switch over. Should be ready in time.
cant wait to hear that sweet sweet spool
TheChad
13-02-2014, 12:02 PM
What time is this on? I have other stuff on that day but want to come down and have a look at the very least.
Tones
13-02-2014, 01:33 PM
No multiplier i take it then?
If there's no multiplier then I'm rushing Pac for sure!!!!!!
Tocchi
13-02-2014, 02:02 PM
Is it possible to get 2 awards, say biggest power shortly followed by biggest rattle ?
Its RWD so no Subi's are entered?
TheChad
13-02-2014, 03:10 PM
Its RWD so no Subi's are entered?
lol that's hilarious.
No way a subi would be taking out best power.
S85FI
13-02-2014, 03:44 PM
Its RWD so no Subi's are entered?pull the front shafts out...
heavyduty1340
13-02-2014, 03:52 PM
Mate had a blower put on by them.... It was great, misses all the time, dyno graph looks like a stock exchange weekly trading graph and idle is really stable.... at 1400rpm.
Now they tell him they are too busy....
Make it personal or cut the losses I told him.
Shittiest shop in town - trouble is as soon as you get shitty, they want to punch on with you
Get another shop to tune it for you - I have a cammed and blown VE all done by SQP, and it is sweet as to drive and is still great on fuel
Takes a fucking load of cash to try to push the 100hp/l naturally aspirated from a holden motor thats for sure, and then, it wont be streetable at all - Ive got 6.6l doing 535hp, and I know what that cost to build, but to try to get 660 or so hp out of it is way outta my league
Lonewolf
13-02-2014, 03:56 PM
There would have to be heaps of cammed fords and holdens which surely would deliver more?
Shittiest shop in town - trouble is as soon as you get shitty, they want to punch on with you
Get another shop to tune it for you - I have a cammed and blown VE all done by SQP, and it is sweet as to drive and is still great on fuel
Takes a fucking load of cash to try to push the 100hp/l naturally aspirated from a holden motor thats for sure, and then, it wont be streetable at all - Ive got 6.6l doing 535hp, and I know what that cost to build, but to try to get 660 or so hp out of it is way outta my league
i was talking 100hp/L at the crank - but i guess your point it still valid as that would still be pretty high
Buckets
13-02-2014, 03:56 PM
If there's no multiplier then I'm rushing Pac for sure!!!!!!
What's a multiplier ?
Not our fault rotors >* :p
forde
13-02-2014, 04:17 PM
pull the front shafts out...
Does't work like that with subarus.
S85FI
13-02-2014, 05:08 PM
what happens? no drive due to no axle resistance?
DISTRBD
13-02-2014, 06:36 PM
I have a cammed and blown VE all done by SQP, and it is sweet as to drive and is still great on fuel
So you wont mind me keeping the Monaro :P
Email sent yesterday but no reply yet
heavyduty1340
13-02-2014, 10:02 PM
So you wont mind me keeping the Monaro :P
Now that's stretching the friendship!!!
DISTRBD
13-02-2014, 10:22 PM
Now that's stretching the friendship!!!
Had a friend look it over today , she liked it and suggested I buy one :P
magic1
14-02-2014, 07:18 AM
Email sent yesterday but no reply yet
i was was FIFOing. reply today mate!
200MPH
14-02-2014, 12:47 PM
i was talking 100hp/L at the crank - but i guess your point it still valid as that would still be pretty high
Well, you've got your Civic. Jap type R B18C goes around 200 HP (flywheel HP) stock and say 220 or so with some cams and breathing tweaks, yeah? So well over 100 hp/l. But you're reving it to 8.5k to get that.
Getting that power out of a pushrod V8 - is also easy, been done many times, all you need is money. Lots of it. A lot more than I spent on my motor! Buy a V8 supercar motor and get near on 650 HP out of 5L at only 7.5k. Or Nascar motor or sprintcar motor or whatever... But many very diligent people spent a lot of time and money over the years to get them to that stage.
So yeah, stick with the B18C and win thanks to the good people at Honda.
Lonewolf
14-02-2014, 01:00 PM
Yeah its interesting, i guess it gets harder to make power/L as the capacity rises without spending big bucks, and component costs then go up also as its 2x the pistons, rods, port work etc.
and then you run into the issues with livability/reliability?
When you look at s85's engine, they make 100hp/l from the factory, at 5L, i find that impressive.
Bike engines even more so!
heavyduty1340
14-02-2014, 07:50 PM
Yeah its interesting, i guess it gets harder to make power/L as the capacity rises without spending big bucks, and component costs then go up also as its 2x the pistons, rods, port work etc.
and then you run into the issues with livability/reliability?
When you look at s85's engine, they make 100hp/l from the factory, at 5L, i find that impressive.
Bike engines even more so!
SAJ, TreCool and I know what it costs to pull hp from Ls motors, and it hurts quickly
500 plus hp atw is probably near 600 true fwhp but it costs bulk $$$ and isn't the friendliest on the road.
If Bart gets the Monaro finished before dyno day I will try to get time to bring her up for it
S85FI
14-02-2014, 08:05 PM
The M3 I sat in the other day was 625hp at the flywheel. Didnt even know it at idle. Actually didn't even know it until you actually opened the throttle fully. At that point I shat. 4.0lt. Ok it had blower on it.
1. I couldn't see the speedo but felt 4 aggressive gear changes
2. I thought we were going to roll at the speed we took the corner
3. I didnt think the car would pull up.
4. I don't even know if it was fast, it just felt fast.
5 The car has entered Racewars so keen to see ot in real world.
Sensible
14-02-2014, 08:37 PM
Bike engines even more so!
My Busa engine was 185hp at the wheels in the racecar before the turbo was added
That was just cams and compression still with the 1300cc capacity
Now it is just shy of 300 hp at the wheels
Cams, head work and boost and still 1300cc
Oversteer
14-02-2014, 08:57 PM
No awd dyno..... pity!
heavyduty1340
15-02-2014, 06:48 AM
My Busa engine was 185hp at the wheels in the racecar before the turbo was added
That was just cams and compression still with the 1300cc capacity
Now it is just shy of 300 hp at the wheels
Cams, head work and boost and still 1300cc
That must be a rush to drive with that sort of power to weight ratio!!!
Sensible
15-02-2014, 11:18 AM
It is very linear in power delivery so it just feels like something with alot more cubes
What makes it interesting in a very short wheel base and a narrow track
Was hoping to crack a 60 second lap at Wanneroo this year but I dont think I can get the cash together for a new set of tyres, I am taking a quite a large paycut to get off the tools after my knee injury and into a office job
Lonewolf
15-02-2014, 12:35 PM
There would have to be heaps of cammed fords and holdens which surely would deliver more?
The M3 I sat in the other day was 625hp at the flywheel. Didnt even know it at idle. Actually didn't even know it until you actually opened the throttle fully. At that point I shat. 4.0lt. Ok it had blower on it.
1. I couldn't see the speedo but felt 4 aggressive gear changes
2. I thought we were going to roll at the speed we took the corner
3. I didnt think the car would pull up.
4. I don't even know if it was fast, it just felt fast.
5 The car has entered Racewars so keen to see ot in real world.
lol yes i was talking n/a, easy to make power with boost.
That said later model stuff with VVT/VVL, direct injection etc is much easier to make power out of and keep it livable.
Paid. Will be interesting to see difference between hub and roller dyno
Daisy
19-02-2014, 04:18 PM
^you had yours tuned with the new setup? what did it make? i`m hoping you havent updated your sig recently.
keen to see what yours made as i have a similar setup.
^you had yours tuned with the new setup? what did it make? i`m hoping you havent updated your sig recently.
keen to see what yours made as i have a similar setup.
Yeah got tuned yesterday, will post up numbers when I get Dyno graph tomorrow. That's my old sig haha
As we close in on the event, we have teamed up with ITP Race Cars to give one lucky competitor a great Turbosmart prize package on the day.
As Australian distributors for Turbosmart, ITP are offering a 500 dollar product voucher for use on any of the brands massive range of products.
Could you be the lucky one to turn $50 into $500? Only one way to be sure - and that is to be entered.
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Yakky Bear
20-02-2014, 11:53 AM
Yeah got tuned yesterday, will post up numbers when I get Dyno graph tomorrow. That's my old sig haha
Was in at tristans yesterday, solid power mate!
Was in at tristans yesterday, solid power mate!
Cheers man, I'm just here looking at your engine. I want your plenum :D
skidkid
20-02-2014, 02:41 PM
Any spots remaining?
Yakky Bear
20-02-2014, 03:31 PM
Cheers man, I'm just here looking at your engine. I want your plenum :D
Hahahaha so if it goes missing I know who to ask first :D Haha man have fun with it that power and an auto will be a fuck load of fun!
Buckets
20-02-2014, 03:39 PM
Any spots remaining?
Yep. We've still got spots free.
Tocchi
27-02-2014, 07:12 AM
Is it possible to get 2 awards, say biggest power shortly followed by biggest rattle ?
well ...
http://ct.fra.bz/ol/fz/sw/i59/2/10/21/frabz-too-soon-aa4c77.jpg
time to attempt 2 awards again, biggest rattle and lowest power, van i choose you !
Slow RB25
27-02-2014, 09:53 AM
Debs been pressuring me, soo if there is a spare spot I'll grab it please, and someone can take my Car for me...
magic1
27-02-2014, 10:27 AM
Update!
We still have about 15 spots available.
cheap way to get your car on the dyno!
email: dyno@racewars.com.au
HotAe92
27-02-2014, 10:37 AM
Keen to see what the shopping trolley spits out, might take out lowest HP. In!
Lasoya
27-02-2014, 10:51 AM
I have emailed you Tristan, I cant make it on the day anymore to help sorry
magic1
27-02-2014, 11:08 AM
cars so far
Honda Civic
Nissan 180SX
Ford Capri
Toyota Supra
Clio RS 200
BMW M5
Holden SS Ute
nissan cefiro
Holden SS Ute
Volvo V70R
R34 GTT
holden vy SS
R23 GTR
Nissan 180SX
BMW 335i
plus a few other surprises ;)
oh and not a crapri
HotAe92
27-02-2014, 11:14 AM
+ a Ford Focus ST. Paid.
forde
27-02-2014, 11:53 AM
Keen to see the power the R23 GTR will put down!
NoOg_sTaR
27-02-2014, 12:06 PM
Sorry Tristan. I forgot about this until it was mentioned last night. Just transferred the money.
I can't let Kuek beat me at another thing. My famry will disown me for disgracing our honor.
magic1
27-02-2014, 01:38 PM
Sorry Tristan. I forgot about this until it was mentioned last night. Just transferred the money.
I can't let Kuek beat me at another thing. My famry will disown me for disgracing our honor.
he beat you to sideswiping a car too?
NoOg_sTaR
27-02-2014, 01:48 PM
he beat you to sideswiping a car too?
Nah I chopped the shit out of him at that. Heritage saved there.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1/1239451_10151845871768987_172783385_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/t1/1005540_10152254311628987_1730503018_n.jpg
Tocchi
27-02-2014, 01:49 PM
cars so far
Honda Civic
Nissan 180SX
Ford Capri
Toyota Supra
Clio RS 200
BMW M5
Holden SS Ute
nissan cefiro
Holden SS Ute
Volvo V70R
R34 GTT
holden vy SS
R23 GTR
Nissan 180SX
BMW 335i
plus a few other surprises ;)
oh and not a crapri
* renault race van
Lonewolf
27-02-2014, 02:38 PM
Volvo ice-bag included?
HotAe92
27-02-2014, 07:46 PM
Had a friend run their XR5 on the WA Perf dyno today. Had major issues strapping it down and getting an accurate reading (ESP going off etc), gathered that they hadn't run many FWD's on their dyno before. Friend mentioned that the bloke there he was going to get in touch with you Tristan, so that they are better prepared for next weekend, as I know there are a couple of FWD's confirmed.
For those with FWD's, might be worth taking off the belly plates etc to get better access for straps under the front end. May also be worth knowing what fuses to pull if the ESP/ESC plays up.
Lonewolf
27-02-2014, 08:22 PM
There would have to be heaps of cammed fords and holdens which surely would deliver more?
Had a friend run their XR5 on the WA Perf dyno today. Had major issues strapping it down and getting an accurate reading (ESP going off etc), gathered that they hadn't run many FWD's on their dyno before. Friend mentioned that the bloke there he was going to get in touch with you Tristan, so that they are better prepared for next weekend, as I know there are a couple of FWD's confirmed.
For those with FWD's, might be worth taking off the belly plates etc to get better access for straps under the front end. May also be worth knowing what fuses to pull if the ESP/ESC plays up.
Good idea, goes for some newer RWD cars too.
S85FI
27-02-2014, 09:27 PM
Mine certainly does.
Strap car, ride out 1st, bling, bling " stability control warning, engine power reduced, click accept"
Fixed that, ride out 1st, bling bling, EDC not reconised, click accept...
this goes on half a dozen times, how many poxy sensors can there be?just when you thing you got them all..... Bonnet warning .... yep.... click....
Azrian
27-02-2014, 11:01 PM
With the amg i used to push a few secret buttons and the car would go into " dyno mode". Surely yours has something similar.
Man i used to love dyno mode.
S85FI
28-02-2014, 06:43 AM
No Idea..... haven't found anything out like that yet...
Might have another look.
Sfidz
28-02-2014, 09:05 AM
With the amg i used to push a few secret buttons and the car would go into " dyno mode". Surely yours has something similar.
Man i used to love dyno mode.
I miss Dyno mode :(
Tocchi
04-03-2014, 06:52 AM
hey tristan/organisers, Chloe is taking my spot in this given the engine breakage.
well to be honest, it was deb going "no, you aren't entering the van, chloe is taking your un-needed spot now" haha
Damo 69
04-03-2014, 07:01 AM
van needs to enter
Tocchi
04-03-2014, 07:16 AM
damo, i do not want to be at the receiving end of Deb's stern "im somewhat disappointed in you" voice haha
magic1
06-03-2014, 08:28 PM
With 30 cars lined up to jump on the rollers and some sponsors on board this is shaping up to be a cracking social event. BBQ and drinks available on site. Pop down and have a look or better yet email dyno@racewars.com.au to enter. Its not too late!
Will pop in on the way home from getting the vz tinted. Keen to here what a V10 M5 sounds like at wot. :)
SSICK
06-03-2014, 09:54 PM
i have a funeral to attend at 10am, but will swing by after and check it out.
S85FI
06-03-2014, 10:00 PM
Will pop in on the way home from getting the vz tinted. Keen to here what a V10 M5 sounds like at wot. :)
Car is scheduled on for around 11:45. it's surprisingly quite on a dyno and I think it's louder on the road as the throttle seems to be open longer for the air intake.
If you're at RW feel free to jump in for a spin. If all goes well the blower will be on by then. Blower Kit is with US customs now for packaging and weighing in. First one on it's way to Australia. (Gintani).
heavyduty1340
06-03-2014, 10:21 PM
Took the VF Ute to Motorplex last night - Managed to pull a 11.7 with a few traction problems
Here is a crappy phone pic of burn out prior to the 12.7 run
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7IttgVgooM&feature=player_detailpage
Car is scheduled on for around 11:45. it's surprisingly quite on a dyno and I think it's louder on the road as the throttle seems to be open longer for the air intake.
If you're at RW feel free to jump in for a spin. If all goes well the blower will be on by then. Blower Kit is with US customs now for packaging and weighing in. First one on it's way to Australia. (Gintani).
maaaa nigga
Lonewolf
06-03-2014, 10:49 PM
Car is scheduled on for around 11:45. it's surprisingly quite on a dyno and I think it's louder on the road as the throttle seems to be open longer for the air intake.
If you're at RW feel free to jump in for a spin. If all goes well the blower will be on by then. Blower Kit is with US customs now for packaging and weighing in. First one on it's way to Australia. (Gintani).
Racewars version of the Ring Taxi!
S85FI
06-03-2014, 10:57 PM
maaaa nigga
Jedi moj kurac
200MPH
07-03-2014, 09:48 AM
Took the VF Ute to Motorplex last night - Managed to pull a 11.7 with a few traction problems
Here is a crappy phone pic of burn out prior to the 12.7 run
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7IttgVgooM&feature=player_detailpage
Nice. What was the speed through the traps? Should be close to 200 k's I'd guess. Went to look at Fuelers and Doorslammers on Sunday night - so the track was well prepped. Still grippy on Wed night? Would have been the night to go for sure.
magic1
08-03-2014, 04:17 PM
pretty darn good day, excellent turn out.
WAPERF as usual are excellent.....
pics to follow.
S133LTR
08-03-2014, 04:22 PM
Looked like some nice cars on the fb page.
Some interesting results. Allstar hp & BYE torque = same same?
NoOg_sTaR
08-03-2014, 04:30 PM
My family has expressed their much happiness in keeping family honor.
Lonewolf
08-03-2014, 04:35 PM
Poor Dr Chin
Buckets
08-03-2014, 04:44 PM
My family has expressed their much happiness in keeping family honor.
Poor Dr Chin
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1/1924589_529663410488544_138104741_n.jpg
Time to get the wallet out Kuek and defend your family's honor :p
Evman
08-03-2014, 04:56 PM
Thanks to all that had a hand in organising and running it, at the very least it reassured me that the car was making power after a few slow runs at the Plex on a hot and humid night a while ago :) Good to see such a variety of cars too, I'm used to mostly one-make dyno days.
azzada1
08-03-2014, 05:17 PM
Popped in for afew hours... Was good to see a diverse bunch of cars on the dyno and loved seeing the realpower figures of some of these cars also, good stuff
Brockas
08-03-2014, 05:23 PM
Awesome day! Will put some pictures up shortly.
Some interesting results. Allstar hp & BYE torque = same same?
In fairness, Royce's car has run 138mph, so it's fast, and considering it only did about 560whp on WA Perf's Dyno I'd say the dyno is pretty conservative.
Either way, it was awesome to see a group of cars from all different workshops compared on the same dyno!
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1/1924589_529663410488544_138104741_n.jpg
bottom left corner, yeah i see it :P
Turboesky
08-03-2014, 05:52 PM
bottom left corner, yeah i see it :P
ENHANCE!
Gr3mlin
08-03-2014, 06:11 PM
Heard their was a "trouble" with some peoples personalities.
Hope they sorted their shit out quick.
Liberator
08-03-2014, 06:17 PM
good day. sad i got down a bit late because of work . the amount of different cars was great bring on RW
was awesome to see deans TT clubsport run as i left about 2 mins prior to the last time it was dynoed publicly
Lonewolf
08-03-2014, 06:20 PM
Thanks to Wa Perf, and the Racewars team for organising.
Great day :)
FB Photos here for tagging:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10152324479286388.1073741855.716976387&type=1&l=6390df46fb
Flickr for Higher res:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/105775916@N08/sets/72157642036109494/
p.s. 127hp, booyah.
huggy_b
08-03-2014, 06:50 PM
Massive thanks to WA Performance, they put in a massive effort to make the day a success.
And congrats to all that put their cars on the dyno and made it the day it was.
HotAe92
08-03-2014, 07:26 PM
Thanks to WAPerf, Tristan and the other Racewars crew that put the event together. Was well run.
Great diversity of cars and some big numbers on what was probably a conservative dyno
thommo
08-03-2014, 07:36 PM
Who owns the purple f6, I need those wheel specs!
bodyboarding_bum
08-03-2014, 07:43 PM
Good day! Thanks to the organizers :) good to put my shopping-hatch onto some rollers, instead of a Coles carpark.
Tre-Cool
08-03-2014, 08:08 PM
Lol at talk of conservative dyno.
I had to play with the tune on the red ve this morning to fix fuel mixtures after it had a couple of tanks of p100 and switched it back to ethanol.
With a couple of hours temp difference and different atmospherics. Power was with 10hp from mine.
When the cars are strapped and ran at the same ramp rate correctly. This is what u get!
So cheers to mitch and deb and all the helper minons who helped out today.
Slow RB25
08-03-2014, 08:21 PM
Looked like some nice cars on the fb page.
Some interesting results. Allstar hp & BYE torque = same same?
let me know when you head to the drags next mate. ;)
in all seriousness though I knew it would read lower, just disappointed I couldn't make it down. :(
but glad Ross and Hampus got it ready and took it down for me, cheers guys.
beatle
08-03-2014, 08:23 PM
Great day, cheers to everyone that made it happen.
turns out my bum dyno was reading about 5% over.
Who took out the prizes?
I would assume ICA18 took out HP/L. That thing is nuts, 40psi, no worries!
My family has expressed their much happiness in keeping family honor.
1-1
DAN [GTI]
08-03-2014, 09:21 PM
Keen to know how much power the MPS3 made. It's got (just about) every bolt-on, stock turbo, stock block.
supra_jza70
08-03-2014, 09:47 PM
Awesome day.
A lot of amazing cars.
And thanks to all the staff involved
And thanks for the snap on bar stools :)
Buckets
08-03-2014, 11:21 PM
Photo gallery is up on the FB page.
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.529600940494791.1073741834.253752048079683&type=3
I've you've got your own pic's or vid's from the day feel free to share them to the page.
Brockas
08-03-2014, 11:38 PM
Pics!!
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Brockas
08-03-2014, 11:39 PM
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Brockas
08-03-2014, 11:41 PM
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Buckets
08-03-2014, 11:44 PM
The want for that F6 is very very high... Look's stock but with perfect fitment and ~600 at the treads. Defuckingluxe.
bodyboarding_bum
09-03-2014, 12:05 AM
;1181109']Keen to know how much power the MPS3 made. It's got (just about) every bolt-on, stock turbo, stock block.
Depressingly low 205.9hp! You're right, pretty much all bolt-ons while maintaining stock turbo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STQaCvUZ5Ic
2LMILK
09-03-2014, 12:16 AM
Depressingly low 205.9hp! You're right, pretty much all bolt-ons while maintaining stock turbo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STQaCvUZ5Ic
im looking forward to lining up next to this. will be a good match up
DAN [GTI]
09-03-2014, 12:58 AM
209HP is stock power... Did it measure lane changing ability? You would have won that.
bodyboarding_bum
09-03-2014, 07:01 AM
Agreed, 200hp is stock output so I think there were some funny numbers being pulled. Not phased though, good fun regardless :)
Needed a shopping capacity measurement. Apart from the Volvo wagon, it would've been up there.
DISTRBD
09-03-2014, 07:06 AM
Agreed, 200hp is stock output so I think there were some funny numbers being pulled. Not phased though, good fun regardless :)
Needed a shopping capacity measurement. Apart from the Volvo wagon, it would've been up there.
Go run it at the Plex and see what MPH it runs then compare it to a stocker.
TargaHatch
09-03-2014, 07:41 AM
Looks like a great day and great numbers. Cant wait to see all these out at the main event!
Lonewolf
09-03-2014, 01:53 PM
p.s. no lowest power award, boooooo :(
Intercpt
09-03-2014, 02:15 PM
Go run it at the Plex and see what MPH it runs then compare it to a stocker.
At a guess if you overlay your power graph on a stock power graph, you would notice a shed load more mid range "meat".
At the end of the day, a dyno figure is just a reference number.
Evman
09-03-2014, 03:03 PM
Agreed, 200hp is stock output so I think there were some funny numbers being pulled. Not phased though, good fun regardless :)
For reference, my car pulled 2.5hp less then it did on the Dyno Dynamics dyno it was tuned on, 7hp less than Active's Dyno Dynamics, and 15hp more than the lowest dyno run it's done (which was a stinking hot day on BYE's Mainline). That low number is also on par with a heat soaked run during tuning. 4 dynos with highly comparable runs seems pretty spot on to me.
Buckets
09-03-2014, 03:33 PM
* NEWS FLASH * It seems many people have been playing on Disney dyno's or think they have 1,000,000 internet plug & play Cobb tune horsepower. There's no doubt that plenty of the car's there are seriously quick BUT even when you factor in HP loss from some of the guys running semi slicks (Mini Mitch said ~40hp) and the conversion from hub to roller dyno it seems that some of the dyno numbers that have popped up of late may be a little happy. But in reality HP numbers mean fuck all. As long as it run's well and goes quick it's wins alround.
200MPH
09-03-2014, 03:40 PM
* NEWS FLASH * It seems many people have been playing on Disney dyno's or think they have 1,000,000 internet plug & play Cobb tune horsepower. There's no doubt that plenty of the car's there are seriously quick BUT even when you factor in HP loss from some of the guys running semi slicks (Mini Mitch said ~40hp) and the conversion from hub to roller dyno it seems that some of the dyno numbers that have popped up of late may be a little happy. But in reality HP numbers mean fuck all. As long as it run's well and goes quick it's wins alround.
Maybe this racewars mob could run an event based on speed across the line after a decent distance, say something like 1000m should do it... Could that possible sort out a bit of truth from fiction?
Hang on...
180SXTCY
09-03-2014, 03:47 PM
keen to see a results list.
Tocchi
09-03-2014, 03:53 PM
* NEWS FLASH * It seems many people have been playing on Disney dyno's or think they have 1,000,000 internet plug & play Cobb tune horsepower. There's no doubt that plenty of the car's there are seriously quick BUT even when you factor in HP loss from some of the guys running semi slicks (Mini Mitch said ~40hp) and the conversion from hub to roller dyno it seems that some of the dyno numbers that have popped up of late may be a little happy. But in reality HP numbers mean fuck all. As long as it run's well and goes quick it's wins alround.
Does it have to do a complete 1/4 to be a win all round?
S85FI
09-03-2014, 03:56 PM
I'm going to buy a book on Dyno readings. So much variations. Need to learn this shit for diagnostics.
My graph looked like a triangle (Tractive Effort lb) stayed flat at 1400lb whilst I noticed other cars (I think all of them) went up with hp. :confused:
NoOg_sTaR
09-03-2014, 04:01 PM
I was personally expecting a 280hp figure with the roller. So as some could probably tell I was pretty happy spitting out the almosttreefiddy power figure. End of the day roller vs hub will always be different, people need to just accept that. There are so many variables to consider.
As for the results. I took a picture of the whiteboard at the end of the day:
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3767/13027734675_f0a2b49011_b.jpg
Fukushima
09-03-2014, 04:39 PM
http://www.imgur.com/iVaTyal.jpeg
Bet I was the only one that actually went shopping At masters afterwards
180SXTCY
09-03-2014, 04:56 PM
Seeing 150 hp difference marbles?
SimonR32
09-03-2014, 05:23 PM
Seeing 150 hp difference marbles?
160hp actually, so you have lots more power than me... Want to race?
180SXTCY
09-03-2014, 05:44 PM
Lol straight on the defence.
I don't ever recalling saying I was faster than you? Was wondering how such a huge discrepancy in power figures.
Slow RB25
09-03-2014, 06:15 PM
What did the SR22 make?
Oversteer
09-03-2014, 06:15 PM
Hook line and ?
Sfidz
09-03-2014, 06:22 PM
What did the SR22 make?
*SR20
Buckets
09-03-2014, 06:29 PM
Dee needs to enter and have runs...
Runs > Dyno sheets > Hoist heros.
*Well aware of the above statements irony. Regardless Johnny it's time to enter chap.
180SXTCY
09-03-2014, 06:29 PM
87 x 90mm plus some Cc chambers. U can do the maths presser
Sfidz
09-03-2014, 06:36 PM
87 x 90mm plus some Cc chambers. U can do the maths presser
How come you weren't at the dyno day dude? Level playing field for a RWD against AWD's
beatle
09-03-2014, 06:55 PM
I did the maths, its approx 2141.2cc
*SR21
huggy_b
09-03-2014, 07:48 PM
How come you weren't at the dyno day dude?
MIA as well Captain tight pants?
HotAe92
09-03-2014, 08:05 PM
Depressingly low 205.9hp! You're right, pretty much all bolt-ons while maintaining stock turbo.
Which is pretty much spot on with mine, with similar mods and similar power from factory, which is good to know.
Happy with my graph, sent it off to the tuner in the States yesterday arvo to sort out the lack of top end, new map back within the hour. Fixed.
Oversteer
09-03-2014, 09:14 PM
Depressingly low 205.9hp! You're right, pretty much all bolt-ons while maintaining stock turbo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STQaCvUZ5Ic
Tune not so clean..few little and a big det up top.
Greg Rust
10-03-2014, 06:40 AM
Was there a proper high volume fan used that day?
huggy_b
10-03-2014, 06:53 AM
Was there a proper high volume fan used that day?
yes
S85FI
10-03-2014, 07:44 AM
Some even had them bolted to the inside of the engine bay.
Lonewolf
10-03-2014, 09:46 AM
Was there a proper high volume fan used that day?
not for the FWD's, and depends what you call high volume i guess for the others
Effectivly nerfing fwd results?
No.
Running a few degrees warm would help hp. If car got hot it would pull timing , but the weather was cool enough for that not to happen.
1JZVL
10-03-2014, 11:35 AM
If my auto didn't go bang......then all temps are fine :P
It's only 1-2 runs...so I don't think worrying about temps should matter.
HotAe92
10-03-2014, 11:44 AM
Not looking to get in a shitfight over variables, but FWIW my datalog shows both coolant and charge temps rising by almost 10c from start to end of the two runs. For the sake of consistency it would have been nice to have a fan upfront.
Gt-Four
10-03-2014, 11:59 AM
Not looking to get in a shitfight over variables, but FWIW my datalog shows both coolant and charge temps rising by almost 10c from start to end of the two runs. For the sake of consistency it would have been nice to have a fan upfront.
Pedistal fan was clearly on.....
Turbo2.6L
10-03-2014, 12:32 PM
As buckets has already said, anyone doubting the accuracy of this dyno is off with the fairies. It reads bang on hp figures for all cars I know that have been on it & then had runs at the plex, without fail.
My Calais makes 433hp NA every time it's strapped on (due to the exact same strapping technique used ach & every time on all cars there) and runs high 10's at 122mph full weight. Every single credible drag converter I have used has spat out these exact figures based on my specs & converter slip values, along with countless other cars owned by WA Perf customers.
Was an awesome day and I just wish my bottle warmer hadn't failed so I could've cracked the mid 500 mark like I did during tuning through the week. Mph figures I. The coming weeks will just have to do!
Big thanks to Tristan, Mitch, Deb, Miksta, Age, Clint, Mini Mitch & the guys on the BBQ for running such a tight ship! Would attend again / 10
Tones
10-03-2014, 12:48 PM
With the fwd cars and no front fan. Would the fact of no air being pushed through the front of the car hampered hp figures?
Surely not having a fresh supply of air being forced into the front wouldn't be helping at all
Turbo2.6L
10-03-2014, 12:55 PM
If the intake temps were suffering from no fan, dyno correction factors would have sorted that.
Air flow wasn't an issue as the cell is t fully enclosed yet.
Tones
10-03-2014, 01:00 PM
Not speaking so much as a heat issue I'm talking from a flow perspective. Will a rwd car read differently with and without a fan present? I remember at powercruise the last time there was a dyno present. Most cars didn't have a fan used and we're reading lower than expected.
I'm not a dyno expert here and personally I hate the things, wish I didn't have to use them, just asking questions.
Tre-Cool
10-03-2014, 01:05 PM
well my runs overlapped each other apart from the top end on the 2nd run where the belt didn't slip, and PD blowers heatsoak like a MOFO.
However I installed a 12" fan on the intercooler of my brothers car over 12 months ago so even when it's idling it get's a fair bit of airflow. (struggles to get over 87c on the freeway)
I used the large dyno fan on my dyno the morning I retuned my brothers car. it was within 10hp of mitch's.
If I feel like it, i'll print out the reading from mine and show them together. AT & IT will be different, but the way shootout mode works is should be reasonable close across dyno's and varied weather conditions.
I'll also admit I don't go to the same length as mitch did with the hipo cars, I put the chocks in front of the wheels and put 2 straps around the rear subframe.
Tones
10-03-2014, 01:08 PM
Oh and a lack of a fan I wouldn't expect massive difference either but like I said, asking questions and just curious
Fuck people get their vagina's sandy when they don't post the biggest hp ever.
Lonewolf
10-03-2014, 01:21 PM
If the intake temps were suffering from no fan, dyno correction factors would have sorted that.
Air flow wasn't an issue as the cell is t fully enclosed yet.
Was there an intake air temp sensor put under the bonnet of cars? (i didnt see but wasnt really watching)
The turbo FWD's all generally run pretty small turbo's spinning hard and hence rely on intercoolers pretty heavily.
On the FWD NA point, given the 2x cars that ran almost exactly the same power (Me and Miggy) - based on flywheel figures equated to about 35% drivetrain loss - given both make 200hp @ the flywheel standard.
Personally, i realised i hadnt adjusted my tire pressures since the track on monday, only running about 30psi which may have skewed my reading a little.
In the end I dont really care, dyno's are a tuning tool and just always interesting to see how cars compare to each other :)
Evman
10-03-2014, 02:29 PM
Maybe the dyno isn't calibrated for sub-300hp runs...
Now I've said that I hope I don't get chopped by sub-300hp cars at Racewars...
thommo
10-03-2014, 02:35 PM
Fuck people get their vagina's sandy when they don't post the biggest hp ever.
they should know ping is power!
Get some heaters in there
Fukushima
10-03-2014, 03:11 PM
I was expecting mid 400s so was a bit concerned I might have a boost leak or something when my first run was 395
Was less concerned when Mitch said the slicks rob a bit of power, perfectly happy to adopt that as a ricer excuse
Was quite happy when simon got 550hp
In the end it confirmed what we already knew:
My car sounds awesome
6L with forced induction make awesome power
Simon and Royce are punching above their weight for mid sized engine
BMWs are crap
Volvos are crap
Front wheel drive cars are crap /i
NoOg_sTaR
10-03-2014, 03:57 PM
Hey fuck you guy.
magic1
10-03-2014, 04:13 PM
Sam, my new favorite Asian.
S85FI
10-03-2014, 05:00 PM
HAHA... so looking forward to the Germans racing you....
I'll even make it fair and put some mulch bags, shopping and a bottle of scotch in the boot for winner takes all content of boot.
However if there are 4 doors with baby seats, you win. ;)
I was expecting mid 400s so was a bit concerned I might have a boost leak or something when my first run was 395
Was less concerned when Mitch said the slicks rob a bit of power, perfectly happy to adopt that as a ricer excuse
Was quite happy when simon got 550hp
In the end it confirmed what we already knew:
My car sounds awesome
6L with forced induction make awesome power
Simon and Royce are punching above their weight for mid sized engine
BMWs are crap
Volvos are crap
Front wheel drive cars are crap /i
Turbo2.6L
10-03-2014, 05:07 PM
Lol Shannon
Lonewolf
10-03-2014, 05:31 PM
I was expecting mid 400s so was a bit concerned I might have a boost leak or something when my first run was 395
Was less concerned when Mitch said the slicks rob a bit of power, perfectly happy to adopt that as a ricer excuse
Was quite happy when simon got 550hp
In the end it confirmed what we already knew:
Majority of skylines cant hold their fluids in
Fixed for you :)
Tre-Cool
10-03-2014, 05:37 PM
i was impressed with the little 1.95 stroker motor. impressive power
Tocchi
10-03-2014, 05:38 PM
if only hubbers didnt have max torque shutdowns (?) ... would be epic to see david's car pump out near on 900 at the hubs?
I was expecting mid 400s so was a bit concerned I might have a boost leak or something when my first run was 395
Was less concerned when Mitch said the slicks rob a bit of power, perfectly happy to adopt that as a ricer excuse
Was quite happy when simon got 550hp
In the end it confirmed what we already knew:
My car sounds awesome
6L with forced induction make awesome power
Simon and Royce are punching above their weight for mid sized engine
BMWs are crap
Volvos are crap
Front wheel drive cars are crap /i
no 700HP RB's... how disappointing :/
180SXTCY
10-03-2014, 06:02 PM
no 700HP RB's... how disappointing :/
550 close enough.
Buckets
10-03-2014, 06:07 PM
no 700HP RB's... how disappointing :/
No 1200nm Supra's either.
Lonewolf
10-03-2014, 06:09 PM
No 1200nm Supra's either.
i guess all the rotors apex seals went, or ran out of fuel on the way
Tones
10-03-2014, 06:12 PM
i guess all the rotors apex seals went, or ran out of fuel on the way
Or are in Sydney awaiting shipment to Perth ;)
Buckets
10-03-2014, 06:20 PM
Or aren't allowed out of the workshop. ;)
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1/1796415_10151932641872291_714525551_n.jpg
Fukushima
10-03-2014, 06:21 PM
i was impressed with the little 1.95 stroker motor. impressive power
My dad was impressed with the car you brought. Massive power, hardly any noise compared to the others.
On that note thanks to everyone who spoke to him. You can't imagine how out of his element he was and he came away with a great impression of "shannon's car friends"
Tre-Cool
10-03-2014, 06:57 PM
My dad was impressed with the car you brought. Massive power, hardly any noise compared to the others.
On that note thanks to everyone who spoke to him. You can't imagine how out of his element he was and he came away with a great impression of "shannon's car friends"
exhaust note wise, not very loud. blower noise... not so much.
SimonR32
10-03-2014, 07:05 PM
I look forward to the low powered rb's getting smoked at racewars!
Evman
10-03-2014, 07:18 PM
exhaust note wise, not very loud. blower noise... not so much.
Haha exactly what I was thinking
Turbo2.6L
10-03-2014, 08:07 PM
HAHA... so looking forward to the Germans racing you....
I'll even make it fair and put some mulch bags, shopping and a bottle of scotch in the boot for winner takes all content of boot.
However if there are 4 doors with baby seats, you win. ;)
I'll take that bet with my family sedan. When and where?
Buckets
10-03-2014, 08:12 PM
When and where?
Racewars Wyalkatchem -- 12-13th April 2014.
S85FI
10-03-2014, 08:13 PM
I told your dad your car was a sensible choice. It ticked all the boxes:
4 door family car
Fits baby capsule
Great on fuel and can run on more than one fuel,
It's a daily for the weekends
The number plate lets the coppers know you know about road rules and it's all good.
A great bloke for a yarn too.
My dad was impressed with the car you brought. Massive power, hardly any noise compared to the others.
On that note thanks to everyone who spoke to him. You can't imagine how out of his element he was and he came away with a great impression of "shannon's car friends"
200MPH
10-03-2014, 08:17 PM
I'll take that bet with my family sedan. When and where?
Did you really ask "when and where" in the racewars forum?!
Memo to RW marketing gurus: I don't think you're getting through to this one yet...
Edit: damn you slow iFail typing!
Buckets
10-03-2014, 08:23 PM
Memo to RW marketing gurus: I don't think you're getting through to this one yet...
Dean doesn't want to play because he can't run drag radials during the 800 & 1000m passes. Not much we can do about that.
Greg Rust
10-03-2014, 09:03 PM
yes
not for the FWD's, and depends what you call high volume i guess for the others
Cheers for letting me know. The reason I asked is that old mate with a Focus ST wanted some dyno tuning at MCE Motorsport and they weren't able to move the high volume fan to the other side for FWD. After two runs the thing was getting hot and dropping power.
dmanvan
10-03-2014, 09:34 PM
Dean doesn't want to play because he can't run drag radials during the 800 & 1000m passes. Not much we can do about that.
but there were other dedicated drags cars last year running legit tyres and having to deal with not being just able to mash the loud pedal at the start.
IIsnt that the appeal of the longer races and the rollons?, that is isn't so much about the launch like a 400m?
the headliner 1000m is a totally different kettle where aero comes into it as well ( check out the vid of a GTR doing a mile race in Russia and how they have taped up all the gaps in the bodywork so that they don't get air going where they don't want at high speed.).....
enter and use the best tyres you are allowed....??
Turbo2.6L
11-03-2014, 07:49 AM
My car runs out of legs at 400m. Don't have time or patience to swap out Diffs between race meetings unfortunately...
magic1
11-03-2014, 08:20 AM
My car runs out of legs at 400m. Don't have time or patience to swap out Diffs between race meetings unfortunately...
enter, drop car at WAPERF.
supply diff,
I will get my hands dirty
how hard can it be........
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