AFL 2014 (Without DanWA)

[fourseven]

Title says it all.

If you want an AFL thread with DanWA posts included, go here: http://antilag.com/forums/showthread.php?59704-AFL-2014-(With-DanWA)

[Damo 69]

LOL

[masTers]

Could only be better with a like button!

[siladee]

already looking forward to the new season. hoping carlton can pick up a few key position players and push for the 8/4.

[masTers]

Apparently Chapman to Richmond, and Shaw to Melbourne of all places?

[siladee]

chapman to richmond would be good for both I think. I can not see shaw to melb. doubt he would get on too well with roos!

[MadDocker]

Should be a fair bit of movement this trade period which is good. Always look forward to seeing who goes where and how it works out.

McPharlin has apparently said him, Sandi and Pav are all keen for next year which is good but probably be the last season for 2 at least of them. Need to do some smart recruiting to cover Pav and McPharlin.

[Torquen]

Rhett ~ like button, dislike button... and a DanWA free AFL 2014 thread. Give yourself a pat on the back.

[stormtrooper]

http://www.watoday.com.au/afl/afl-news/rioli-lake-set-to-miss-start-of-season-20130930-2untu.html

Oh good, that nasty little pingpingpingping Rioli is copping a 1 match ban (should be more like 2) for the chicken wing stunts, Lake is copping 3 for his deliberate elbow to the head of Walters, and Suban is copping a few for his face grab on Mitchell (though that looked pretty tame, pingpingpingping wouldn't get off him). Hodge can feel free to shut the fuck up about the bans, his team did play a rather dirty brand of football on the day however the better team still won it on the day. Bring on 2014!

[Fukushima]

I would have preferred free kicks / 50m penalties on the day, but that is a bit much to ask from the third team on the ground.

[MadDocker]

Rioli scored from a free kick he received for that chicken wing tackle. That and McPharlins "over the mark" call on Buddy are pretty harsh looking back now. Oh well.

Reports that Swans have offered Buddy 1.5m(ish) a season. Would be a pretty awesome forward line if they pull that off!

[Skitzo]

I hope Buddy doesn't accept the swans offer.

[huggy_b]

You have to wonder how the Swans are able to make that kind of offer if it is legit? Even with their cost of living allowance, that would be 2 players out of 40 taking approximately 1/4 of their total salary cap.......

[MadDocker]

Mumford wont be offered a new contract, Bolton, Mattner & Morton all gone. Would free up a fair bit of space.

Agree it's crazy money though and glad Freo aren't in the race.

[adrenalin]

Franklin & Tippet would be a dam good forward line.

We still need one more solid midfielder.

[Passage GT]

i think it's becoming clear that Sydney have a pretty unfair advantage with the salary cap, if they can offer buddy that kind of money after already getting tippet... it's excessive, with the great culture and management they have in place, along with the budget advantages they'll be a side that is always going to be in the top 8, they'll never drop and struggle anymore like all the other clubs seem to do during the normal cycle.

[mehow2g]

I dunno about franklin he's had an average year stats show hawks play better without him.

Great player but at the hawks they have been focusing to get the ball to him and teams know it and focus on shutting down buddy which hurts the team.

Probably will be eating my words next year though.

[adrenalin]

Or they have an awesome office that can talk people into taking less money to making a better team...

[MadDocker]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-01/buddy-set-for-swans

GWS withdraw offer. I'm sure they would table it again if he showed interest but pretty big move.

[masTers]

The mind boggles at how Sydney can get any player the want.

[Butcher]

Fremantle have room in the salary cap for buddy if Lyon thinks he is an appropriate fit, he is a kickett (Freo) after all. McPharlin, Mundy, Pavlich, Sandilands are all veterans so their payments are mostly above the salary cap 30-50%. Pavlich's last contract was worth 1.2 alone, so im interested to see what Lyon has planned for freo as they deliberately didnt max out the salary cap to allow for so much young talent being retained in the future and will be interesting to see where he thinks the major recruiting needs to be. I think our backline is strong without Mcpharlin, Clarke has ruck duties sorted i see centre half forward being a weakness atm with most of our goals coming from 6-7 different guys each week. Mayne, Pav and Buddy as leading forwards and walters, balla on the ball?

[Jimmy_S]

Buddy to Swans is all but done apparently... Buying property in Bondi, and GWS offer is off the table, so seems pretty clear!
Really don't know if it's going to solve their problems though...

Heard Freo have a player coming over to see the club this week... not sure who though!?

[ossie_21]

Buddy to Swans is all but done apparently... Buying property in Bondi, and GWS offer is off the table, so seems pretty clear!
Really don't know if it's going to solve their problems though...

Heard Freo have a player coming over to see the club this week... not sure who though!?

Gumbleton apparently wants to be traded to WA, maybe him.

As for Buddy, if it happens then the AFL can get ready for a shitstorm. All this talk about "equalisation", and the 2012 premiers Sydney could end up with 2 of the best KPF's in the comp for next to fuck all. To be honest I expected him to sign with GWS mostly for the money factor, but have always hoped he stays with the Hawks, hopefully he does.

[Bomber]

AFL might want to look into the Swans balance sheet if that's the case. Might take some heat off the Bombers

[adrenalin]

Buddy to Swans is all but done apparently... Buying property in Bondi, and GWS offer is off the table, so seems pretty clear!
Really don't know if it's going to solve their problems though...

Heard Freo have a player coming over to see the club this week... not sure who though!?

The problem sydney had towards end of the year was their midfield. With Goodes getting injured etc. 2 solid forwards just strengthens the forward line even more especially considering both Mike Pike and Mumford can both catch the ball in the forward half as well.

[MadDocker]

Truck driver (quality source) that came into work just told me that Freo have upped Swans offer for Buddy. I hope we don't pay overs for him and end up losing some of our young guns when their contracts come up.

[fourseven]

Lyon said he'd give Buddy 1.5m a year. Swans offer is 1.4m, but not sure how serious Lyon is.

[stumps.]

I think the weekend proved we need a strong forward target.

Is buddy the right choice? I'm not sure...

[adrenalin]

Cant kick any worse then fyfe, pav, Balantyne...

[MadDocker]

Not trying to defend the Dockers shit kicking, it was fucking terrible. Buddy sprayed his shot from 50m as well though. Lucky McPharlin got pinged for crossing the mark.

[stumps.]

Cant kick any worse then fyfe, pav, Balantyne...

Wasn't talking about kicking efficiency, I was talking about tall targets.

At one stage the whole forward fifty was dominated by only Michael Walters, At one stage we had Fyfe in there as the Key forward and I dont think Zac Clarke or Mayne can be KP FF's. If Pav would stay in there it would be good but he likes to run around too much and play mid.

[Butcher]

Just out,for fremantle Jayden Pitt has retired, Peter Faulks, Jesse Crichton and Alex Forster, and rookies Haiden Schloithe and Alex Howson delisted.

[Butcher]

Suban got a reprimand at the tribunal and due to being a grand final will miss week one and carry over 50 points

[Skitzo]

Jesse White is also moving on from the Swans, which frees up more cash.

[SimonR32]

9 years and 10 million... Not a shy offer

He is 26 now, so 35ish when retires? Surely too long...

[1JZVL]

I dislike Franklin and think he's worth more trouble than his worth....not to mention he gives away A LOT of frees.

...but if Freo were to get him, damn, Lance and Pav running around together for the next couple years sure would be sweet!

[GTB Liberty]

Fuck Franklin going to Freo. Too many times we paid a fortune for guys who come over and sit on their arse.

Thanks but no thanks.

[1JZVL]

Fuck Franklin going to Freo. Too many times we paid a fortune for guys who come over and sit on their arse.

Thanks but no thanks.

What, no...Franklin has proven to be reliable

[huggy_b]

Amazing that the origin of this deal with Sydney stretches back to just after the 2012 grand final.......hard to comprehend that just after they lost a GF to them his manager was offering his services to them in 2 seasons time.

[regi]

no way!

honestly I think Sydney could spend their money better elsewhere

[Mr Scorpio]

Jesse White is also moving on from the Swans, which frees up more cash.

Speaking of quality big men leaving the club (and freeing up cash for Buddy)...

http://www.gwsgiants.com.au/news/2013-10-02/big-mummy-to-become-a-giants

Shane Mumford has gone across town to be a GWS Giant. Jonathan Giles and Shane Mumford, that is actually a really good ruck duo and will be hard for any team to go up against

[adrenalin]

Well was waiting to see who was on chopping block to make room.

[Skitzo]

So Pyke to become No1 Ruckman? Who be No.2?

[MadDocker]

Tippet will have to share ruck duties you'd think?

[Mr Scorpio]

Yep, I'm with MadDocker Pyke for the most part and push Tippet into the ruck when required.

When Tippet's in the ruck and Pyke's on the bench Sam Reid and Buddy Franklin should be plenty of height in the forward line for the Swans.

No real shock with Mumford moving on though, it's been talked about for weeks, I'm just surprised it's to GWS and not a Melbourne team.

[Torquen]

Rumors of a co by Hawthorn to nab daisy from Collingwood before Carlton get a chance.

[schnoods]

Coup?


Also Mumford going to GWS, which helps free up Sydney's cap. Also should give them a good ruck and additional marking power up forward.

[Torquen]

Betts gaaaaaaaaaaawn.

[stumps.]

WTF is this Colin Sylvia shit. 185 cm and 28 years old?

Surely he wont fit into freo?

[MadDocker]

Think he will go well at Freo. He is one of the first tagged players at Melbourne (not saying much...) and gathers 20+ possessions and regular goals. He'll be probably 5th-7th most likely to be tagged at Freo. He uses the ball pretty well. Could replace someone like DeBoer who is tough as anything and plays the defensive forward role well but has iffy disposal.

See what happens. Would have got him pretty cheap anyway.

[regi]

i dont think freo would have targeted him, but he would provide relief for the other mids and play a different role than at melbourne

im interested to see if freo pick up anyone else who is keen to join a team with strong 2014 finals aspirations

any word on a gumbleton move to freo yet?

[Torquen]

WTF is this Colin Sylvia shit. 185 cm and 28 years old?

Surely he wont fit into freo?

Good fit for Freo IMO. Quality ball use, good leg speed, tough.

[Mr Scorpio]

J-Pod is out of Geelong and it looks like Paul Chapman isn't far behind.

Although not a long term proposition if the Dockers wants another crack at the big one in 2014 Podsiadly would make a good tall forward target.

Also Eddie Betts is off to the Crows in a deal worth a couple of mil, not bad.

[ossie_21]

Good fit for Freo IMO. Quality ball use, good leg speed, tough.

Also a known downhill skier

[Jimmy_S]

I don't mind Sylvia... Hard nut with pretty good skills in the midfield and also around HF...

He doesn't solve the KPF issues, but definitely a good pickup IMO!

[huggy_b]

Colin Sylvia has been "on the verge" for about the last 5 seasons, you wouldn't want to pay much for him.......averaging 20 possessions a game is pretty low for a decent midfielder (even in a Melbourne team). His stats are almost identical to Matt Jones. Who is Matt Jones you ask? Exactly........


And how Eddie Betts is worth half a million a season has me fucking baffled - he'd be laughing all the way to the bank!

[beatle]

The buddy deal isnt as rediculous as it sounds.
The majority of the cash will most likely be coming down the track, when a fair few players like goodes will be retiring.
Also, the salary cap will likely be reviewed in 2016 with the TV rights deal. The players association are pushing for more revenue from broadcast going back into the players, increasing the cap.

[Skitzo]

The AFL may still block the deal.

[MadDocker]

Bullshit if they do in my opinion. If it's in the cap the AFL should piss off and allow Sydney to pay a 35yo 1.1mil a year.

[Torquen]

Neg, it'll ruin their playing list in 2020-2022 as they'll have to either pay a player to sit on the side lines around 1.1 pa or they'll have to pay him out (if they let him go due to form/injury) let's just say for arguments sake 3 years salary in one season (i.e. 4 M) which is just under 50% of the year salary cap. Then Sydney will whinge like little bitches as they have to pay their other 35(ish) contracted players with 4.5 M...and then the AFL will have to bail them out. AFL is well within its rights to ensure Sydney can actually afford him if things turn pear shaped towards the back end of the contract.

[fourseven]

Adam Simpson has been appointed the new Eagles coach.

[Gr3mlin]

Where you see that?

[fourseven]

Eagles board meeting.

[schnoods]

If he coaches as well as he played, he should do very well.

I think it is a good decision to go for Simpson over Sumich and Burns. Burns will only Coach the way he did under Woosh and Sumich probably could do with a bit more time, from what i've heard he is a great mind, but not a great communicator.

Plus its a good thing where someone else enters the club not having been there, Burns might be a bit lax as he knows the players well, Sumich might be a more concentrated upon for being a former past great than the coaching side of things.

[SSICK]

Darling to hawthorn.....anyone confirm?

[masTers]

Contracted player, surely not. Hawthorn would have to give up alot for that to happen (this trade period).

[Butcher]

Just listened to an interview on 882 with Adam Simpson and im not convinced but happy to be wrong. Pretty much said that he will be taking a back seat this year and trusting that the board and coaching staff know what they are doing in regards to trade season and plans for next year. He said that he doesn't want to come in with an iron fist and tread on toes nor disrespect any of the work that woosha has done. Nor was he able to pass comment on where the major flaws are or what his plans are to get the team back on track. I would of thought that if you are going to an interview that doing a bit of research and drawing on his last four years as an assistant coach playing against the eagles that he would have a few idea's on area's that need urgent attention to arrest this fall down the ladder.

[Torquen]

Not getting Suma was a smart move. Eagles have been inbred for too long (likewise with Carlton and Brissy). Personally I think having a past legend coaching doesn't help anyone. Just means clouded judgement and blindness to obvious flaws.

[MadDocker]

http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/news/2013-10-09/success-the-lure-for-franklin

Buddy deal done and officially a Swan. AFL said that his payment remains part of the Swans salary cap even if he isn't playing at the end of the contract. Pretty big gamble by Sydney but they have got a ripper forward line for next year!.

Maybe the Swans are in part banking on an increased salary cap with the new TV rights deal in a few years time??

[evoeata]

lol at buddy saying he is going to sydney to get instant success...... yeah and the millions are just a bonus. hope tippett out kicks him for the next few years.

[regi]

any super early predictions for next year? top 4 etc?

I have a feeling an outsider or two will sneak into the top 4.

[ossie_21]

any super early predictions for next year? top 4 etc?

I have a feeling an outsider or two will sneak into the top 4.

North Melbourne will I reckon, Richmond an outside chance too.

[MadDocker]

Adelaide, NM, Eagles should all make a move up. Especially with the "grouping" going on in this years fixtures (bottom 6, middle 6, top 6). Probably GC as well but such an unknown. Would get great to see them make the 8.

Dons, Tigers, Sydney and possibly Blues all knocking on the top 4 door.

Port will make the 8 but might not get as far this year with a tougher draw.

Think Collingwood, are the most likely to slip out of the 8.

I usually suck at predicting this sort of thing. It's always tough to call with teams coming out of nowhere and injuries smashing sides during the year.

[regi]

I think geelong will drop out of the top 4 and hawks will barely make it.

[Torquen]

Carlton to legitimately make the 8 this season.
Dockers top 2.
Richmond top 4.
Gold Coast to finish 9th.

/miscellaneous predictions.

[ossie_21]

My top 4 prediction is Sydney, Freo, Hawthorn and North Melbourne. Carlton to finish 9th cos they are the new Richmond :p

[Macca]

Sydney,Freo,Hawks and for the roughy Eagles

[Torquen]

Sydney,Freo,Hawks and for the roughy Eagles
Easy DanWA ;)

[Lmx]

Sydney Hawthorn Geelong Collingwood

[1JZVL]

Fremantle, Hawthorn...I'd say Essendon would be up there so long as they don't stop dropping games as usual at the end of the season by pure coincidence...

Rest of the Top 8 is up in the air.

Hope Brisbane play consistent and it would be cool if Gary Ablett, I mean GC made the 8 (who proved this year they've got many great players!)

[huggy_b]

What the fuck are we doing trading our only decent ruckman in McEvoy? I'm baffled by that decision........just gave the reigning premiers a ready made replacement ruck who is killing it at 24yo and we get a guy who couldn't break into their team and an average draft pick.

Holy fucking moley.

[SSICK]

Daisy Thomas officially a Blue......hopefully it pays off.

[ossie_21]

What the fuck are we doing trading our only decent ruckman in McEvoy? I'm baffled by that decision........just gave the reigning premiers a ready made replacement ruck who is killing it at 24yo and we get a guy who couldn't break into their team and an average draft pick.

Holy fucking moley.

McEvoy is good at getting around the ground, but his actual ruck work like taps to advantage is shit. For someone not being able to break into the Hawks side, it's not the worst you could have done. Savage is a good player, and will only get better. You still have Hickey who will be pretty good, and with that pick you might go after Longer for Brisbane, or just for a short term fix I believe Darren Jolly wants to keep playing. But yeah if you don't get another ruck man, you're gonna have a bad time

[huggy_b]

McEvoy is good at getting around the ground, but his actual ruck work like taps to advantage is shit.

As opposed to one leg Bailey? LOL

And Savage is a fringe player. Fuck I hope they get something sorted, and not Jolly, he is finished.

[MadDocker]

Was pretty shocked at that trade when I heard it. Hawks would be happy with the deal for sure. Saints must have something in mind.

[Scousey]

Saints must have something in mind.

Tanking before the season starts?

But in all honesty, virtually most of their midfield will be gone at the end of next year. Lost Goddard last year. Montagna and Dal Santo are looking to leave for some success. Hayes will retire, only has one season left on that dodgy knee. Riewoldt is 32 next year, Jones and Ray are in their late 20's.

Only shinning light from 2013 was Jack Steven.

They have Pick 3 in this years Draft and maybe looking for another top 5 pick next year to rebuild after the years of 2009 and 2010. A bit like they did in 2000, 2001 and 2002.

In those Drafts they picked up Riewoldt #1, Koschitzke #2, Ball #2, Clarke #5, Dal Santo #13, Goddard #1.

[schnoods]

Hawks did well picking up McEvoy, especially with Bailey retiring and were interested in Longer, but he would still need a bit of time to develop.

Saints need a good rebuild, a few more earlier draft picks help as they won't be playing finals anytime soon, hopefully the team develops together to be alot stronger down the road. Dal Santo will be leaving, Hayes and Riewoldt will be gone in 3 years tops.

[Torquen]

West Coast in talks with Carlton for Bootsma... HAHAHAHAHAHA. For the love of baby Jesus please take that useless POS of us :D

[masTers]

DO NOT WANT JOSH BOOTSMA

[MadDocker]

He's a project player. Could possibly be a good pickup in a few years when he matures. Could also turn out to be a crab...

[schnoods]

He can kick a good torp, about it though. Could imagine kicking back into play from full back, Hurn marks it and lines up from 70 out.

[Torquen]

pingpingpingping's useless, I'm still surprised a fucking light breeze hasn't blown him away. Curly haired fuck (I'm clearly a fan haha).

[SSICK]

Looks like Napolean Dynamite......

[Jimmy_S]

Gumbleton over doing tests/medical with Freo... Could be ok? Glad we don't appear to be as keen on Ellis... Not worth worrying about IMO!

Bootsma is pretty close to a done deal to WCE! Although now WCE have offered 2nd rounder for Yeo, so Bootsma may not happen...

[Scousey]

Xavier Ellis has just signed with the Eagles. Now we need Yeo and Voss.

http://www.westcoasteagles.com.au/news/2013-10-16/ellis-an-eagle

[Torquen]

Xavier Ellis has just signed with the Eagles. Now we need Bootsma and Voss.

http://www.westcoasteagles.com.au/news/2013-10-16/ellis-an-eagle

Fixed ;)

[Scousey]

^^^LOL.

pingpingpingping needs to eat more.

Bootsma can come back to WA, for South Fremantle. He doesn't deserve to play at AFL level again and is lucky he has 2 years left on his contract.

[beatle]

Apparently dockers making a play on St Nick.
Pick 16, Josh Mellington, Viv Mitchie, maybe Jack Hannath and possibly Alex Silvagni.
Fair bit of future on the table for a 2 year deal.

[masTers]

Viv Mitchie went to Melbourne today for pick 7000 or something just as useful.

[huggy_b]

Apparently dockers making a play on St Nick.
Pick 16, Josh Mellington, Viv Mitchie, maybe Jack Hannath and possibly Alex Silvagni.
Fair bit of future on the table for a 2 year deal.

That scenario was one dreamed up by a journalist - kind of blue sky / outside the box trade thinking. Wasn't even considered by either party.

[ossie_21]

Riewoldt will not go anywhere lol

[MadDocker]

Last year Dockers pulled Danyle Pearce from nowhere, year before it was Ross Lyon... Might have a secret signing again who knows.

Giving up 16, Mello, SCOS & Hannath for 1-2 years with Riewoldt seems pretty crazy. 16 & Mello I would do. Need Hannath and SCOS imo, especially with McPharlin & Sandi coming close to retirement.

If Michie can get his body right he should chop up at the Dees. He's a quality player.

[schnoods]

Dockers will not try for Riewoldt.

More than likely, Gumbleton will be in the picture. Mitchie gone for pick 54 which might seem useless to most clubs, where as Gumbleton has been looking to leave and did a medical for Freo, Essendon having bugger all picks in the next 2 years will struggle to unearth new blood, but there might be a diamond in the rough at 54.

[ossie_21]

This years draft is pretty shallow, anything from 30-40 onwards would have to be a speculative pick or get lucky with someone with a big scope for development. No way will Essendon take 54 for him, 33 maybe which is being mentioned. They are complete pricks to try and work with, Crameri wants to leave to come to us, he's out of contract so he could just go PSD but they are still holding out for more than 22 which is being offered. Worse is they are known for it, so don't expect it wrapped up all that quickly. Things will move slightly quicker with free agency ending tomorrow, but this 3 week thing is clearly too long

[Scousey]

Well Black retired today. Great champ of the modern game, will be sorely missed.

But the question is, will Carlton trade either Gibbs or Murphy to GWS for both picks 1 and 2? IMO I think it would be a great trade, pick up a quality young forward Tom Boyd to replace Waite and a young midfielder for the future. Maybe James Aish or Josh Kelly?
Since they have Daisy now Carlton can afford to trade one of them, especially both can't handle a hard tag. And GWS need a quality experienced mid.

[Torquen]

Murph's off the table (obviously being captain) but I'd be happy to see Gibbs/Walker/Yarran go for a shot a Tom Boyd.

[huggy_b]

Well played GWS securing pick 2 for Dom Tyson (plus a few other draft swaps)! That trade came from nowhere really.

Pods to Adelaide......surprising, be interesting to see how he and Taylor Walker fit together
Chapman looks like he'll be at essendon, fait acomplie after Thompson was announced coach really.
Finally Dal has gone to NM, interesting to see what St Kilda get compo'd
essendon have now entered the chase to get Billy Longer with St Kilda and Hawthorn, weird choice given they have Bellchambers and Ryder rotating with Joe Daniher in the wings.


Been an interesting trade "week", albeit a little long winded IMO.

[masTers]

Well played GWS securing pick 2 for Dom Tyson (plus a few other draft swaps)! That trade came from nowhere really.

It's been thrown around the past few days. The original deal had Tommy Bugg's name thrown around but.

[Jimmy_S]

This years draft is pretty shallow, anything from 30-40 onwards would have to be a speculative pick or get lucky with someone with a big scope for development. No way will Essendon take 54 for him, 33 maybe which is being mentioned. They are complete pricks to try and work with, Crameri wants to leave to come to us, he's out of contract so he could just go PSD but they are still holding out for more than 22 which is being offered. Worse is they are known for it, so don't expect it wrapped up all that quickly. Things will move slightly quicker with free agency ending tomorrow, but this 3 week thing is clearly too long

Pick 54 is all that Gumby is worth IMO... And that's what has been offered(allegedly)... and I think that Essendon would be silly to pass on it.. They'll hold out as long as they can, but I reckon it will get done.

Yeo appears to be a pretty much done deal to WC as well... although a fairly complicated one!

[MadDocker]

Hopefully if he gets here, his body holds up and he can stay on the park. Could be a great pick-up if he stay injury free. Pretty big if given his past.

[huggy_b]

That's his biggest issue, he has all the potential in the world but hasn't really dominated or strung a bunch of games together - what is like 10 or 12 games in the last 3 seasons?

Its a bit of a gamble.........but pick 54 is a bit of a throwaway pick.

[mehow2g]

I just hope eagles in the future some how get omera better yet jack Martin

[MadDocker]

Took a few years but finally landed a tall forward. If he stays fit Gumby will improve the Dockers forward line a fair bit.

[Torquen]

Big if!

[masTers]

Watters sacked just then. Saints should of done this before the trade period.

Now they have also (potentially) missed out on some of the best available coaches too.

Wonder if it will be a case of 7000th time lucky for Sumich? Choco is tipped to take over now but.

[huggy_b]

Little surprised with the timing. We'd have to have a coach already lined up I'd hope.....

[MadDocker]

They must have something line up. Timing doesn't make sense otherwise. Would be good to see Choco back coaching.

[cactus]

Voss is apparently next in line ... which would surprise me big time.

[Trolley]

I hope it's Choco. St Kilda is quickly turning into a basket-case of a club. Melbourne V.2

[MadDocker]

Draft day tomorrow. Really hoping McArthy slips to us somehow but thats a pipe dream. Hopefully not another skinny Victorian midfielder anyway.

[Trolley]

MCarthy looks like a cross between Fyfe and Mayne, with the unpredictability of Kepler.

[MadDocker]

Taking marks that he shouldn't, dropping marks that he should and being unpredictable infront of goals makes him the perfect fit for the Dockers haha.

[MadDocker]

McArthy to GWS. Didn't see that coming. See you in 2 years haha.

Dockers got Apeness. 199cm 101kg ruckman / forward. Maybe trying to collect the whole set? Sandi, Griff, Keplar, Hannath, Moller, Clarke, Apeness...

Edit: Overlooked Marsh with our last pick for a short Tasmanian midfielder. At least they are consistent.

[MadDocker]

Gumbys done his hammy by the looks of it... knew what we were getting into but fuck me it's disappointing.

[Torquen]

Gumbys done his hammy by the looks of it... knew what we were getting into but fuck me it's disappointing.

Yep, a talented 6 foot 7 man made of toothpicks, matchsticks, rubber bands and clag glue... Good luck with that one!

[ossie_21]

While I try not to read into pre-season games too much, the Hawks look scary without really trying. As for St Kilda, lock them in for the spoon


Gumbys done his hammy by the looks of it... knew what we were getting into but fuck me it's disappointing.

Out for 3 months...

[schnoods]

Watched the game today. Gws won't be spooners this year recruited well, all the hard bodies like Hunt, Shaw and Mumford played tough and the Giants kicked 7 super goals.

Saints looked poor. Mid field is struggling with Jack Steven out and no Dal Santo

[Lmx]

WOW, starting to get some more info now!
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/thirteen-months-after-the-drugs-in-sport-scandal-broke-12-afl-players-including-essendon-stars-still-looking-for-closure/story-fni5f6kv-1226842446681
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/list-of-essendon-players-who-suspected-theyd-been-given-aod-thymosin-or-both-hun-1-3-14.1050832/

[MadDocker]

Demetriou resigns. He's done well in an AFL business sense but don't like all the changes he's made. Will be interesting to see who takes over from here and how they'll go.

[Bomber]

Bring back contact sports!

[mehow2g]

Thank fuck one part of the cancer has been removed.

[Torquen]

So it's that time of the year again... Bring your tinfoil hats, grab your crack-pipe or chosen non-energy saving light bulb and lets go!

Premiers: Hawks
Wooden Spoon: Saints
Coleman: Jeremy Cameron
Brownlow: Tom Rockcliff

Top 8:
Hawks
Freo
Swans
Tigers
Collingwood
Carlton
Essendon
Crows

To be honest though 6th, 7th and 8th could also be: Suns, North, Port or West Coast. Should be a very close season.

[Trolley]

Dreamteam anyone?!

[Torquen]

AFL Fantasy or RDT? I'm doing both.

[masTers]

Massive CBF with DT this year, that shit eats so much time :(

[Trolley]

AFL Fantasy or RDT? I'm doing both.

I have a team in each due to workmates doing RDT ($20 buy in, winner takes all) and my students doing AFL Fantasy and wanting me in their league. No AL league this year?

[Scousey]

I was keen to join, already in 3 leagues, but in the last week a huge CBF like masTers. Too time poor enough to worry about dt. Rather enjoy the season than worry about how my team is scoring.

[MadDocker]

Stick to the tipping this year. Don't even do well at that usually so dream team is a complete waste of my time haha.

[SimonR32]

I'm doing realdreamteam only this year... Will be keen if someone sets up a league

[Trolley]

I'd be happy to start up a league and post a thread up, but by the looks of it numbers are going to be slim :(

[SSICK]

Dean Bailey died this morning....diagnosed with lung cancer in December.

RIP

[Trolley]

Made a DT league for those interested. Thread here - http://antilag.com/forums/showthread.php?61177-Antilag-Dreamteam&p=1181891#post1181891

[schnoods]

Premiers: Hawks
Wooden Spoon: Saints
Coleman: Travis Cloke
Brownlow: Someone left of field, maybe Cotchin or Dangerfield.

Carlton, Collingwood and Geelong are who i think will have a worse year, Eagles, Crows and North are who i think will be the better improvers.

[Lonewolf]

Sundays WCE match on foxtel only? :(

[Lmx]

Sundays WCE match on foxtel only? :(

Nah mate,
It's a split round, so you are most likely looking at the guide and not seeing it. It's at 4:30pm on 7Mate Sunday - 23/3/2014

[Lonewolf]

Nah mate,
It's a split round, so you are most likely looking at the guide and not seeing it. It's at 4:30pm on 7Mate Sunday - 23/3/2014

Thanks, i'm a fucking numpty and didnt look at the dates

[huggy_b]

Stupid split rounds.

[Uber XR]

Premiers: Freo
Wooden Spoon: GWS
Coleman: Jack Riewoldt
Brownlow: Nat Fyfe

Top 8:
Hawks
Freo
Tigers
North
Sydney
Carlton
Geelong
Crows

[Trolley]

North in the top 4?! You're on drugs.
Jack Ringworm will be luck to play 1/2 - 3/4 of the season let alone lead the goal scoring.
Saint Kilda or Melbourne will be wooden spooners.

[Uber XR]

North in the top 4?! You're on drugs.
Jack Ringworm will be luck to play 1/2 - 3/4 of the season let alone lead the goal scoring.
Saint Kilda or Melbourne will be wooden spooners..

North just need to get there defense right and they will be a formidable side.

Reiwoldt is a commendable player and will have a good year Im sure. If the Tigers make it to Top 4 there is no reason why he wont be a contender for the Coleman

and are you more upset because I didnt put WCE in the Top 8???

[ho57ile]

North in the top 4?! You're on drugs.
Jack Ringworm will be luck to play 1/2 - 3/4 of the season let alone lead the goal scoring.
Saint Kilda or Melbourne will be wooden spooners.

North were only a few goals worth of points from finishing in the top 4 last season. If they are able to finish off games this year they will be a force.

[Lmx]

Premiers: Hawks
Wooden Spoon: GWS
Brownlow: Gazza once again

Top 8:
Hawks
Sydney
Geelong
West Coast
Carlton
North
Gold Coast
Collingwood

[huggy_b]

I don't think we will be much chop this year (St Kilda), but hopefully not wooden spooners!!

I didn't get a chance to do it last year, but for anyone on BigFooty there is a group that does the $10 challenge - basically place a $10 bet on any AFL game that's paying odds of $1.20 or better for the win, then keeping rolling over your winning (in whole dollars) each round for the entire 22 rounds. If you average a return of $1.20 and pick 22 winners I think you'll turn your $10 into $550, if you can average around $1.30 then its into the thousands of dollars. Best I've done is til round 14 - it was tempting to take the money and run!

Will see how far I get - I'll post my bets in here.....

[masTers]

I'll give that a crack. A few things to note but is there is 23 rounds, as well as split round (for example round 1) and finals, so potentially there is 28ish (??) weeks to find $1.30 a week.

[Trolley]

and are you more upset because I didnt put WCE in the Top 8???

So uptight! :p
No, not at all. West Coast could be anywhere between 6th and 14th. I'm pegging them for 7th. I get the feeling Reiwoldt is borderline selection at the minute. Fair points guys re: North. I just think they're a bit like Carlton - underachieve and choke a bit. Those types of teams just don't make top 4. I'd be happy to see them up there, above Collingwood, Carlton, Essendon et al.

[huggy_b]

I'll give that a crack. A few things to note but is there is 23 rounds, as well as split round (for example round 1) and finals, so potentially there is 28ish (??) weeks to find $1.30 a week.

Usually just the regular rounds, but we'll see how far we get hey!

EDIT: First up I'm liking WCE at home @ $1.30 to beat the Bulldogs.

[Fukushima]

Premiers: Hawks
Wooden Spoon: GWS
Brownlow: Gazza once again

Top 8:
Hawks
Sydney
Geelong
West Coast
Carlton
North
Gold Coast
Collingwood

Lol

[Uber XR]

So uptight! :p
No, not at all. West Coast could be anywhere between 6th and 14th. I'm pegging them for 7th. I get the feeling Reiwoldt is borderline selection at the minute. Fair points guys re: North. I just think they're a bit like Carlton - underachieve and choke a bit. Those types of teams just don't make top 4. I'd be happy to see them up there, above Collingwood, Carlton, Essendon et al.

Yea guess we can review at the end of season and see how we all went.

Cant see WCE doing that well this year. just not looking forward to them winning three games in a row and listening to the supporters hahhahaha

[mehow2g]

Yea guess we can review at the end of season and see how we all went.

Cant see WCE doing that well this year. just not looking forward to them winning three games in a row and listening to the supporters hahhahaha

2012 wce top 4
2013 wce predicted to a contender but struck down by injuries
2014 better list healthly list refreshed coaching dept if they stay injury free there should be no reason why top 4 is out of the picture considering we have a considerably stronger list than spec 2012.

However they may need to adapt to new coach eagles are 4-9 for me.

[masTers]

I didn't get a chance to do it last year, but for anyone on BigFooty there is a group that does the $10 challenge - basically place a $10 bet on any AFL game that's paying odds of $1.20 or better for the win, then keeping rolling over your winning (in whole dollars) each round for the entire 22 rounds.

I kicked this off tonight with $10 on Freo and Sydney ($1.62) will roll that into Hawthorn and WCE ($1.39).

[MadDocker]

Good start.

[Tocchi]

Giants 5 minutes away from their first victory of the season.
14 points up on Sydney. Cameron with 3 goals

edit: 26 minutes into the final quarter. GWS now 20 points up and Jeremy Cameron with 4

edit2 : pingpingpingpings getting goals too quick. 26 points up

congrats to GWS

[ossie_21]

I kicked this off tonight with $10 on Freo and Sydney ($1.62) will roll that into Hawthorn and WCE ($1.39).

Lucky it was only $10 hey?

[MadDocker]

Holy shit. Did not see that coming.

[MadDocker]

Gold Coast with a good win. Well done.

[Macca]

ablett doing as he pleases again

[masTers]

Lucky it was only $10 hey?

Yep. Happy to concede that, was great to see GWS beat Sydney.

[Lmx]

Sigh half way through the first round and already fucked in tipping comp.
Carlton the next bunch of losers to stuff up my tips, seriously how can they lose to port, thought they were going to have a decent year this year.....

[Torquen]

Nope, it seem we're still a bunch of front running soft socks.

[schnoods]

Sigh half way through the first round and already fucked in tipping comp.
Carlton the next bunch of losers to stuff up my tips, seriously how can they lose to port, thought they were going to have a decent year this year.....

They didn't really recruit that well, they helped their depth in the mids a bit, they only player they recruited for their forward line is Andrejs Everitt and he couldn't get a game at the Swans, 2 high picked ruckman breaking even with Lobbe and no crumbing forward now either. I just hope for their sake Waite stays fit and injury free, or it'd be curtains for kicking goals.


On another not though, how big was a few of Watson's Torpedos? One went a good 5-10m past the centre.

[Evoboycorey]

Watson and Mitch Robinson single handedly lost the game for us. Lost all momentum in the second quarter when Watson played like a potato and let Westhoff run a muck.

Also Robinson just hacking the ball forward - How is that acceptable from a coaching perspective? He resulted in at least 40% of our turnovers. Not to mention his aim between the sticks....

[mehow2g]

All that Carltank for 2 appearances in the finals?

Enjoy the rebuild.

[cactus]

When your forward line is reliant on a guy by the name of Jarrad Waite - you know your football club is fucked :)

All jokes aside, I think a lot of people under-estimated Port's ability (and over-estimated Carlton).

GC is clearly Richmond's bogie team. You would be pretty disappointed as a Richmond support - as much as GC improved, Richmond shouldn't have lost if they were serious about making an impact in September.

Swans/GWS was (as already noted) a massive shock. Didn't see the game, but Swans shouldn't have lost. Yes, it is only round 1, but similar to above, a team aspiring for top four shouldn't lose to a club such as GWS.

Dockers were epic, and Collingwood were woeful. I was expecting a 30 point margin, but Collingwood were absolutely destroyed.

Looking forward to Eagles game this weekend - midfield battle will be good, but Eagles should put them away comfortably.

Top 8 for me:

Fremantle
Hawks
Sydney
Essendon
Geelong
West Coast
Port
Richmond

Brownlow: Fyfe
Coleman: JK (WCE)
Premiers: unfortunately, Freo

Close between Richmond, North, Carlton, Adelaide and Collingwood. Its amazing that any one of these teams may miss finals this year (infact, I think the only certainties are Freo, Hawks and Sydney, 4 - 8 is anyones guess).

[MadDocker]

Brownlow: Fyfe

Not if he keeps copping the sub vest when the games done and dusted! Was probably heading for 2 or 3 votes and now will be lucky for the 1 or 2 I recon. His face when they were handing him the red vest and when he was sitting on the side lines watching was pretty funny. Was spewing haha.

[Tocchi]

I thought the eagles had a good pre season ?

They are playing like a barely scraping into the top8 team.


Edit: clumsy at times, decision making errors and such

[ossie_21]

Fuck me how many times will Priddis be allowed to drop the ball before he gets pinged?

[MadDocker]

Umpiring has been better so far this year imo.

DanWah will hate it but think the Dons are looking pretty sharp this year. They'll be tough to beat, at least until their mid season slump.

[thommo]

Everyone on afl tipping? Couldn't see an Antilag comp though..

Edit: I just made a group called Antilag if people wanna see how they stand

[Lmx]

Went to the eagles game and the umpiring was atrocious. Few free goals to wbd, players arms being chopped after marking the ball and not paying it, same thing happening a minute later and being paid.
Not a single holding the ball went WCE way tonight.

[huggy_b]

Well a nice start to my $10 challenge, ended up getting $1.22 for the WCE win - $12 for next week......

EDIT: Hawks @ $1.42 to beat Essendon is enticing.

[Tocchi]

Everyone on afl tipping? Couldn't see an Antilag comp though..

Edit: I just made a group called Antilag if people wanna see how they stand

Joined

[masTers]

EDIT: Hawks @ $1.42 to beat Essendon is enticing.

Port @ 1.72 is even more enticing.

Port into Geelong is money for jam.

[huggy_b]

Gently gently......23 rounds to navigate! Well for those still in it :p

[masTers]

Haha correct, but i think those game high light enormous value, so you could find $1.30 by looking for Port +20 odd or even Geelong +10 odd for those prices

[huggy_b]

The odds will firm up later in the week anyway, I don't like to bet without seeing the teams.....

[urabus]

I too was on West Coast.

However in our old boys school comp you have to pick your dead cert winner every week. Not allowed to pick the same team two weeks in a row. No second chances. I picked the swans over GWS... what was I thinking?!

Brendon

[MadDocker]

Was a interesting round really. Hopefully a few more surprises this year.

Looking forward to Saturday night and the GC game. If GC bring it, it should be a ripper game. They've got a good squad and are usually exciting to watch.

[SimonR32]

Mate put $10 on Lecras to kick first and last goal for each 1/4 of the game...

Came away with 4 wins and $440 from an $80 bet

[Trolley]

Was a interesting round really. Hopefully a few more surprises this year.
Looking forward to Saturday night and the GC game. If GC bring it, it should be a ripper game. They've got a good squad and are usually exciting to watch.

I had been copping grief from the missus about not having moved into our new house yet. I told her that she can ring and organise removalists, etc. since she's being impatient. What does she do? Books it for Saturday the 29th!$~!@$~@!$#@!$!@

Crossing my fingers I am able to get my home theatre set up in time for the game as I'm not going to be able to make it to the ground.

[urabus]

Well a nice start to my $10 challenge, ended up getting $1.22 for the WCE win - $12 for next week......

EDIT: Hawks @ $1.42 to beat Essendon is enticing.

I'm on Sydney to beat Collingwood at the SCG at $1.42.

Brendon

[MadDocker]

Going to do my tipping drunk every week. Must have been smashed...

Results for Round 1 of the AFL 2014 season brought to you by DT Workforce Footy Tipping.
YOUR TIPPING:
This week you tipped 8 winners.

Tipped Melbourne instead of Saints... No idea how I managed 8 haha.

[Kael]

You tipped the Giants? I'll have what you had!

I got off to an ok start with the gold coast and freo winning their games, but ended up with having a stinker after Carlton and North, then Melbourne let me down.

Round 1 is always such a punt though, how'd everyone else go?

[schnoods]

Port @ 1.72 is even more enticing.

Port into Geelong is money for jam.

Im on Adelaide, they killed port in the Nab Cup and the way port struggled to stay level with Carlton, i think Betts is going to have a field day.

Best Value i think is GWS against the Saints.

[Lmx]

Going to do my tipping drunk every week. Must have been smashed...

Results for Round 1 of the AFL 2014 season brought to you by DT Workforce Footy Tipping.
YOUR TIPPING:
This week you tipped 8 winners.

Tipped Melbourne instead of Saints... No idea how I managed 8 haha.
Did you notice you got the EXACT margin too? Yeah, everyone who played on footytips.com.au got the first 4 games correct for free, and the tipping margin as exact as their website was down for a day and a half and many missed out on tipping so they gave everyone the win and margin.
So your 8/9 was probably a 6/9. Win win for all though.

This explains the giants tip :P

[MadDocker]

Fuck. Didn't pay too much attention. Was a bit euphoric after almost tipping a perfect round somehow.

Hahaha. Should of known something was up thinking about it now.

[Lmx]

Fuck. Didn't pay too much attention. Was a bit euphoric after almost tipping a perfect round somehow.

Hahaha. Should of known something was up thinking about it now.
Hehe, yeah, I realised when i looked at our comps ladder and saw EVERYONE had 0 points, apparently an email came out from FT.com.au but i never saw it. I thought my year was over already because I didn't tip Freo, GC or GWS. 8/9 also :P

[Torquen]

How the fuck did Wellingham get off with a reprimand? Disgraceful trip!

[Lmx]

How the fuck did Wellingham get off with a reprimand? Disgraceful trip!
How the fuck did he get off? simple, consistency. Surely you've watched http://www.afl.com.au/video/2014-03-24/charged-round-one-week-two and would have heard that every single tripping charge from last year was given a reprimand.
Your hate for West Coast is strong :D

[Torquen]

Lol, did you watch it? "Lucky to get away with reckless as it looked for all money as intentional". Looked pretty intentional to me too, hence why I said he was lucky to get off.
Your one eye for West Coast is strong.

[SimonR32]

I'm a West Coast supporter and I thought he might get a week for that...

In saying that I don't think anyone should get a week for that, in the scheme of things it was weak as piss

[protecon]

How many games to AFL teams play in a week?
Why don't they just say one game suspension?

EDIT: lol just watched the clip - what a bunch of fucking pussies. We need to stop overanalysing the game and just let it be.
Fucking media.

[huggy_b]

Wellingham was a bit lucky I reckon, pretty stupid thing to do. I think the fairly slight contact saved him.

[ossie_21]

Might have been weak/slight contact but they can't set a standard for something that could end up in a broken arm

[Lmx]

Lol at carltank, guess it's time for a rebuild.

[MadDocker]

Fuck they came back strong. Unlucky not to win there. Tigers chopped at the start but fell away.

[SSICK]

Lol at carltank, guess it's time for a rebuild.

37 points down and got it back to even scores. Yeah time for a rebuild.

[Torquen]

Nope, time for a non boong forward target. Yaz was awesome but Fuck me Jeffie Gartlett, Y U NO KICK DROP PUNT FROM 10 M OUT?
Also while we lost, still glad I don't have Ty Vickery in my side. Potato.

[SSICK]

We have Waite....couldnt find the sticks though.

[Torquen]

Do how much longer though? He's 30 and constantly injured or suspended.

[cactus]

We have Waite....couldnt find the sticks though.

Not sure if serious? The guy is a hack - had he made any one of the billion shots he sprayed last night you may have won the game.

On current form (and form over the past two seasons), Vickery > Waite.

[Trolley]

Both as equally as potato as each other in my opinion.

[ossie_21]

Nope, time for a non boong forward target. Yaz was awesome but Fuck me Jeffie Gartlett, Y U NO KICK DROP PUNT FROM 10 M OUT?
Also while we lost, still glad I don't have Ty Vickery in my side. Potato.

I had to attachment to the game or either team, and I still raged when he did that. What a cockhead

[Evoboycorey]

I had to attachment to the game or either team

WAT

[Skitzo]

replace to with no.

[huggy_b]

Mitchell a late withdrawal wasn't ideal, but I've added 80c and rolled $13 into this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v709/wombat01/0FE03B02-4485-4868-AEBD-86B611CDDECD_zpsqtarht8s.jpg (http://s.photobucket.com/user/wombat01/media/0FE03B02-4485-4868-AEBD-86B611CDDECD_zpsqtarht8s.jpg.html)

[MadDocker]

Hope Mitchell and Hodge are out next week...

Dons with a great comeback. Been some awesome games so far this year.

[huggy_b]

Not looking good for me is it....:(

[huggy_b]

Win from nowhere! On to week 3........

[MadDocker]

Big Sandi killed it in the ruck last night. Be great if he can stay fit all year.

[MadDocker]

Fyfe out for 2 weeks, Dawson out for 1. Fuck sakes.

[Uber XR]

Fyfe out for 2 weeks, Dawson out for 1. Fuck sakes.

Great to see none of the GCS players were reported, dirty motherfuckers...

[SimonR32]

Fyfe out for 2 weeks, Dawson out for 1. Fuck sakes.

Big loss and big gain haha

[huggy_b]

Saw that TAB were offering Ess @ $1.55 versus Carltank....I don't normally jump this early but that's too hard to pass up! So I added 50c to last weeks winnings and plonked down $20 to win $31.

[Kael]

Fyfe out for 2 weeks, Dawson out for 1. Fuck sakes.

Second consecutive year I have lost my brownlow wager on him at the start of the season :(

Will be sure to hang many shits on him the next time we meet.

[MadDocker]

Freo website saying that Barlow is out 4-6 weeks with a lateral strain in his knee. Better be a shitty April fools joke...

[MadDocker]

Ballas signed until 2017. Wonder what kind if $$ he'd be on. Not elite but would be on a decent pay you'd think?

[Uber XR]

Very keen to see the GF rematch this Friday. Should be a good game. Freo was tipped to win when I last checked.

[Trolley]

No way Freo will win without Fyfe and Barlow (and um, Dawson)

Please quote so I can humbly eat my words Saturday morning. Fingers crossed...

[Uber XR]

No way Freo will win without Fyfe and Barlow (and um, Dawson)

Please quote so I can humbly eat my words Saturday morning. Fingers crossed...

Quoting for request and bullshit call.

[MadDocker]

Huge ask and Hawks rightly go in as favorites. Would of been great to see the two full strength sides go at it. Still hoping for an upset...

[Torquen]

Surely Zac Dawson out is a plus.

[Lmx]

Freo should win this, i've tipped them which is hard to do. But Hawthorns outs are just as significant, and i feel dockers have been playing better footy lately.

[MadDocker]

Heaps of people think that about him for whatever reason, including a bunch of Freo fans. He's an experienced, tall defender who spoils well and does his job. We don't have a heap of better options lining up to take his place.

Not a great kicker, doesn't do anything flashy but doesn't usually get pumped either.

[schnoods]

Ballas signed until 2017. Wonder what kind if $$ he'd be on. Not elite but would be on a decent pay you'd think?

Probably around the 350-400k mark.

He is a decent solid player, but he is replaceable too.

[MadDocker]

Fuck hawks are absolutely killing it. Seems like they have an extra few players on the ground. Dockers comprehensively outplayed so far.

[thommo]

Why surprised? Multi Premiership team vs non premiership team

[Bomber]

I am pissed I only tipped them by 16 points LOL

[schnoods]

With Fyfe and Barlow out it was always going to be tough, i almost thought it was a replay of the saints game last season in the first half.

Put a few dollars on the Hawks when they were underdogs, also put them in a multi - Hawks 40+ with Port 40 + @ 30.16, hope Port smash the roos, 10 squid to 300 would be very nice.

[Trolley]

Quoting for bullshit call.

Big fat cow pat wasn't it?

Their game play I mean, not my call.

[Torquen]

Glad I had Hawks in my multi!

[Uber XR]

Big fat cow pat wasn't it?

Their game play I mean, not my call.

I will eat my words swiftly followed by my shoe sock and foot

[xr6tego]

Glad to see Freo smashed.
Perhaps they can pull their heads out of their arses and stop believing in their own bullshit.
And for fuck sake, after two rounds them talking up about how Fefe has lost the Brownlow because of his suspension! Its round two, what a fucking joke for him to be even interviewed about it.
Dumb arse purple poofters.

[MadDocker]

Thought DanWa snuck into the thread for a minute there. Hahaha.

Hopefully that was a wake up call though. Next week not looking great with Walters possibly out as well. Could easily end up 2-2.

[urabus]

I think it was a good thing for Freo and may make them realise that premierships arent exactly easy to win.

I think the same thing is going to happen to West Coast next week against geelong in geelong.

Brendon

[ossie_21]

Umpires doing well to keep Richmond right in it, sick of watching games with good umpiring then when it comes to my own team it's absolutely pathetic. Cotchin is so much a protected species he's up there with Ablett

[Kael]

McVeigh on report.

If the new bump rule isn't quashed fast there will be a mass exodus of AFL supporters. Absolute disgrace.

107,000 odd people seem to agree with Sam Newman so far..

[ossie_21]

0/3 in tipping, ain't even mad

[SSICK]

Fuck sake Carlton are frustrating me. Didn't practice their goal kicking during the week.

[Trolley]

I will eat my words swiftly followed by my shoe sock and foot

LOL, nothing wrong with being positive dude. I'm a Dockers member but unfortunately for me I am a pessimistic bastard at the best of times.

[Butcher]

I think it was a good thing for Freo and may make them realise that premierships arent exactly easy to win.

Brendon


KEK
After 20 years i think they are pretty well versed in how hard it is to win a premiership