WASCC committee troubles

[Evman]

Anyone else getting the emails about this? Shit looks pretty serious and from what I gather a bunch of the people trying to instigate positive change are giving up after a long battle with people who refuse to allow the club to evolve. Could be bad news for the club overall, especially with regards to future track upgrades.

[fourseven]

Can you post the email up?

[Evman]

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ec394stqevdbz97/George%20Bradbury%20Letter%20to%20DSR.pdf

https://www.dropbox.com/s/4wir4szpy1zfz6m/Final%20Draft%20President%27s%20Letter%20to%20Memb ers%20Aug%202013.pdf

There was no confidentiality notice in the email and I'm just a low-end member, so I doubt I'd be getting any confidential emails anyway.

The letter from the Pres looks promising regarding track upgrades, but turmoil in any controlling body isn't a good sign.

[SircatmaN]

I used to work for the WASCC, all I can say is that their is a group of people who want the best for racing in WA and there are a bigger group who are in it for themselves and sadly they are the ones that work together to get stuff done. They sacked the best Track manager they had who cared about motorsport because he basically realized that they were a bunch of useless selfish old men and put one OF THEIR OWN COMMITTEE members as the manager.
They were actually upset that he organized for the porches, utes and minis to come to the V8's because THEY wanted to race their HQs and saloons (Even though HQ and saloon racing is about exciting to watch as a block of cheese grow mold, the only cheers they get is when they hit the wall). A huge part of the reason the V8's left wasn't the fact the track wasn't wide enough, that was just an excuse they used, its because they couldn't get along with the WASCC committee.
The reason I am gone is that they wanted me to lie about my boss so they could sack him, I refused and then complained about how they treat their staff so they simply sacked me and then called him in and sacked him aswell, when I went to sue for unfair dismissal they got away with it because they had less than 10 employees and so I wasn't allowed to sue (Part of the reason I now study law). And then to top it off they put their mates in our position - if you havn't got the picture yet it is simply remove the people who don't agree with what you want and put your friends in no matter how unqualified they are.

There are some great people in the club like John Hurney and many others, unfortunately they are overpowered by the selfish dodgey people who don't give a damn about anything but themselves. Many of who I thought were my friends and I would have done a lot for them to find out they were involved really taught me a lesson about people. I have since never trusted a committee.

The government needs to take the track and put in place a proper body to run it that wants the best for motorsport in WA.

[DanWA]

MSW used to be like that, but John Smith & Simon Sterner (Bart's mate) were given the boot and things are on the up, hence the AL event and another AL one coming shortly.

Sadly this is bad news for WASCC, hope it gets sorted out.

[SimonR32]

There has been stuff jumping up and being taken down on speedwest.net forums for a while now.

I don't understand how widening the existing track to 12m would be an enormous cost but building a new track altogether is economically feasible... Weird!

[Denver]

There's a lot going on it seems.

I've been a member of WASCC for a fair while now. And the while time there's been the over ruling boys club. I've seen it in action a lot. And over time it's forced a lot of people to just leave as its easier than trying to do what's best. And that ranges from commitee members right down to people who just want to race but it becomes all too hard.

Thing is. Ten years ago. The committee was fine. Was ok for the club. But it's now too big for them to just be the boys club it was. It's a business and needs to be run as one. John Clark who's the new manager is probably the best man for that gig. His experience is extensive. He has the skills and ability to get that club going the way it needs to and the crew behind him are exceptional (except sterner he's still a knob). He's all about making the sport grow. And is very approachable about issues and listens to ones concerns.

But. He doesn't have final say. The commitee does. And it's full of knobs who hate change.

Put it this way. As far as I understand it. They have approval for the land. And money approved by the govt and various bodies to do the much talked about track extensions. But the committee doesn't want to change the current track. So at this point all the hard work is for naught.

Sadly the old guard needs to go. As pointed out there are some good guys in the club. But most have thrown hands up and bailed. As its doing no good trying anymore.

There's and extraordinary general meetings on the 25th of sept at Gloucester park at 7, registration from 6:30. If your a member RSVP to attend.

[racegtst]

There appears to be heaps going on at the club.

Being a long time member I have been disappointed in the cultural change in the last few years. I do not know what the details of the issues but culture comes from the top.

I must agree that John Hurney has continued to be an advocate for the club and racing.

I think for the club to go forward it might have to take a step back and decide what does it stand for, what is it's vision and then how does it get there. I don't necessarily see that turning it into a company is a good thing and I am sure that Football clubs are still have the club element and are run like businesses and are also larger than WASCC, so it can be done just on a slightly different model.

I do believe that the track extensions need to be followed through to the finish and sooner rather than later.

If you are a member then I encourage you to attend the meeting on the 25th September.

[S85FI]

Reading those letters ... not a good thing.

[Greg Rust]

Cheers for the update. I don't have time at present to read the documents that were sent out. So wasn't really sure what was going on.

Makes sense now.

[Denver]

I think the committee needs to be there as well. But not as the grand poobah. For input and helping make decisions yes. But ultimately it needs a business front end and to be run as one. Otherwise. It will never get to its potential.

You only need to look at how much they where against drifting in the beginning (and some still are) until they saw the earning potential.

[racegtst]

I think the committee needs to be there as well. But not as the grand poobah. For input and helping make decisions yes. But ultimately it needs a business front end and to be run as one. Otherwise. It will never get to its potential.

You only need to look at how much they where against drifting in the beginning (and some still are) until they saw the warning potential.

I agree and that is the way it is currently done in AFL. Maybe the WASCC needs to look at how AFL transitioned from small VFL clubs to very large business clubs.

[200MPH]

Been a member continuously since 96 I think. Yeah, getting old...

But I'm over it all. My membership lapses in December and I'll let it go. Sick of them all wasting time and money (my money - membership aint cheap!). Seen these sort of commitee machinations several times over the years. Been to a few meetings. Sad events where rich old guys slag each other off mostly and threaten lawyers. Won't be going to the latest fight night scheduled. Just over it.

[Buckets]

Sad events where rich old guys slag each other off mostly and threaten lawyers.

Pretty much sums up most "clubs" of this ilk. The management is stacked with opinionated, rich & bored old people with little regard for anything other than what happens to appeal directly to their own personal interests.

What's the best outcome here though ? Club get stripped of the management / decision making rights to the facility or a coup takes place and some of the old timers get arseholed ?

[Greg Rust]

In for group buy

[Socrates]

Surely these guys have elections every 2 years as per their constitution?
Why has anyone else nominated for election and the membership (from what i understand, are not happy with current team) vote in the new people?

[Denver]

The EGM ended up cancelled, but there is now an AGM scheduled for the 12th of nov, if your a member, please head down, maybe we can get some positive change and get rid of the old backwards guard..

ps, if your a member of speed west, get into this thread, http://www.speedwest.net/forums/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/41088/1

if a bunch of the younger generation start getting into this people might start listening..