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Fukushima
17-07-2013, 09:38 AM
The dogs have trashed our carpet in the past year, and no doubt we'll have kids to do so in the next few years.


Anyone got hookups or work with with wooden floors / clip together shit ?

OR anyone bought anything lately that they rate? post pics/ price etc

Lounge is around 6x4m if I recall correctly...

cplagz
17-07-2013, 09:41 AM
Talk to Dan (Riggs), if he can't do it he will know who can.

Dagon
17-07-2013, 09:45 AM
Interested in hookups also.
We recently replaced the 70's-era carpet with stick-on lino. The rubber underlay after 30years of aussie summers had fused with the concrete below.
Scrape, scraped again, used a floor sander, and then went over with an orbital sander.
Totally want to pay someone to do the rest of the house rather than doing it myself...

Regarding clip-together shit, I've heard mixed stories - some say the bamboo floating stuff is really easy & cheap, some have said it's a complete prick to cut to fit and work with properly.

Sensible
17-07-2013, 10:18 AM
A mate owns Flooring Xtra in Oconner
They do all types of the click flooring from cheap and nasty through to good stuff that is hard to tell it isn't hardwood

MadDocker
17-07-2013, 10:31 AM
Your dogs have wrecked carpet and you want to spend $$$ on wood floors??

Save yourself the scratches and get tiles. My dogs have scratched the fuck out of my wood floors.

XsQuiZiT
17-07-2013, 10:34 AM
I laid Parador throughout the house (except bedrooms and wet areas). Click lock stuff, easy to install and has withstood general wear & tear for about 6 months including 2 big dogs. When I was looking at the stuff in-store the salesman made me hit the surface with a hammer and to try scratching it with keys & screwdrivers. Passed the test pretty well cause you really need to look at it on the correct angle in the correct light to see very minor scratching.

http://en.parador.eu/products-catalogue/laminate-flooring

http://www.carpetcall.com.au/gallery/laminate-flooring

I think laid price was around $70 and per sqm supply only is $27-30

skidkid
17-07-2013, 10:38 AM
Surely industrial spec carpet or lino would be better suited to not getting ruined by dogs + babies?

1JZNOSHIT
17-07-2013, 10:42 AM
Put dogs outside, where they belong. Problem solved :D

TJ
17-07-2013, 10:50 AM
No wood or Riggs

Joe
17-07-2013, 11:03 AM
Riggs does this new engineered wooden floor, its pretty nice.

PM him.

RELEASE
17-07-2013, 11:06 AM
Talk to Dan (Riggs), if he can't do it he will know who can.does he just sell it or supply and lay?
Solid timber too?

Need my whole house done once the builder finishes with it so am not sure if i will buy and lay myself (did parents house with dad and brother a few years back) then get someone in to sand and seal/lacquer or just have someone do it all for me. depends on price and if i can be fucked doing it

ADZ
17-07-2013, 11:07 AM
Riggs does this new engineered wooden floor, its pretty nice.

PM him.

Exactly what I have him putting in my new home

Looks the business, hard as nails and fairly affordable to!

shifted
17-07-2013, 01:09 PM
http://en.parador.eu/products-catalogue/laminate-flooring

http://www.carpetcall.com.au/gallery/laminate-flooring

If this is the same stuff Bunnings sells (engineered laminate from europe) - then we laid the same stuff here at home. Can be a pain to cut around door frames but came up great, has withstood 3 dogs running around on it constantly too. The first room we did took us a while but the last room took only a few hours from start to finish.

Riggs
17-07-2013, 01:14 PM
Shannon, drop in and have a look when your free. I can show you all the options. 31 Hutton St Osborne Park

I do everything except solid wood (would never touch it) and ceramics. We can supply, install and pull up and prepare your existing floor.


A mate owns Flooring Xtra in Oconner
They do all types of the click flooring from cheap and nasty through to good stuff that is hard to tell it isn't hardwood

He's the new bloke in the franchise, not had the chance to meet him yet. (I'm branding as FX in the near future and have been part of the group for years)

PS. Stay away from Carpet Call.

Joe
17-07-2013, 01:30 PM
But Dan, they're the experts in the trade... why wouldn't we go there???

XsQuiZiT
17-07-2013, 01:55 PM
+1 for stay away from carpet call. The salesman was a douche and the service was shit but I managed to get trade pricing on supply only which worked out well for me.

HANS YOLO
17-07-2013, 02:07 PM
i bought mine at auction and laid it myself...saved me a but-load of money but was no fun laying it...did the house for under 2k (excluding my labor)

Fukushima
17-07-2013, 02:09 PM
Shannon, drop in and have a look when your free. I can show you all the options. 31 Hutton St Osborne Park

I do everything except solid wood (would never touch it) and ceramics. We can supply, install and pull up and prepare your existing floor.

Champion, this is relevant to my interests... What are your hours?

Poktrokt
17-07-2013, 02:35 PM
+1 for Riggs! he was excellent & great value for money!
he has layed heavy duty vinyl in one of my investments, although this may not be a suitable product in your home.
Has also carpeted a friends investment and he said Riggs was fantastic to deal with, honest and was very knowledgable aposed to the other douches who are mere sales men only!

I have the laminate floating boards in my other place and although they are easy to clean and very hard to damage, they are very noisey! Sarah's high heels will echo through the house and any other loud shoes etc!
Overall I liked them and they are very cheap compared to real wood.

I love tiles, but by the time you find the stle you like etc, the costs just blows out!

Regarding engineering wood, I have heard great things about this product and looks real! great choice over real wood!

Fukushima
17-07-2013, 03:43 PM
I have the laminate floating boards in my other place and although they are easy to clean and very hard to damage, they are very noisey! Sarah's high heels will echo through the house and any other loud shoes etc!
Overall I liked them and they are very cheap compared to real wood.



yeah noise is a cvoncern but then again, no shoes in the house because azin

ovaxitd
17-07-2013, 04:09 PM
if you like wood without the scratching go check out crosby tiles (norma rd myaree) they do a tile that looks like wooden flooring... obvioulsy a bit more costly but its a new thing and looks like wooden floors, different shades and wont scratch/ be damaged like timber...

just an option

http://www.crosbytiles.com.au/timber.html

Lump
17-07-2013, 05:37 PM
ive got QLD black-butt & i cant wait to get rid of it - scratches pretty easily - would not reccomend.

upstairs area still looks gorgeous tho

DRKWRX
18-07-2013, 06:46 AM
Shannon, drop in and have a look when your free. I can show you all the options. 31 Hutton St Osborne Park

I do everything except solid wood (would never touch it) and ceramics. We can supply, install and pull up and prepare your existing floor.



He's the new bloke in the franchise, not had the chance to meet him yet. (I'm branding as FX in the near future and have been part of the group for years)

PS. Stay away from Carpet Call.

would never install it or would never have it in your house? looking at getting Marri in our house (pretty much 100% sure) just wondering why not? personally not a fan of fake timber.

Riggs
18-07-2013, 07:22 AM
Would never have it in my house. There is no arguing that when done properly real timber looks fantastic but it is very difficult to live with and will only look good for a very short time.

No lacquer on the market is anywhere near as durable as any factory applied urethane or laminate based surface.

Real timber is unstable, incredibly susceptible to moisture (bursting off the floor, warping etc) and much softer and more prone to dents/scratches than any other type of flooring. Its also very expensive.

On top of that, people who chose to install solid timber rarely do it properly due to the extra cost involved. Painting a moisture barrier to the concrete and sikaflexing the timber to the floor is not the best way to install it (but most common)

The floor needs to be sealed, then 14mm marine ply pinned straight to the concrete or on batons that are fixed to the floor then you sika and pin the boards the the ply. Installing like this costs a fortune.

Shannon, Mon-Fri 9-5 Sat 9-2.30

Sensible
18-07-2013, 07:29 AM
He's the new bloke in the franchise, not had the chance to meet him yet. (I'm branding as FX in the near future and have been part of the group for years)

PS. Stay away from Carpet Call.

Yeah Luke and his wife Ash own it
They bought out a shop a couple of years ago and rebranded as FX at the start of the year

Dom
18-07-2013, 08:56 AM
sorry to kinda steal thread,

we just bought the bambooozle flooring they have some stock that is defective so they are trying to sell it off cheaper. I personally cant see what wrong with the finish. It is meant to be super hard wearing??

To put this down it looks like we have to lift the old boards what thickness plywood needs to be put in place? Also is under floor insulation worth the $$

Thanks

RELEASE
18-07-2013, 09:14 AM
interesting about the recommendation against solid timber

we installed Karri Light tongue and groove (19mm i think) solid flooring at the parents place 10years ago in all the bedrooms and the whole second floor. Haven't needed to re-lacquer and has worn great. mind you no shoes in our place
we nailed and glued it down.
only issue is in the first couple rooms we did, the edge in some walls has slightly lifted but that's due to dad running the timber literally hard up against the wall so when it expands and contracts during the hot/cold months it had no where to go but up. stupid move considering there are 20mm thick skirting boards all the way around

Riggs
18-07-2013, 09:15 AM
Is is a click & lock system or tongue and grove (glued), floating or direct stick? Strand woven and compressed bamboo is the toughest of the natural products however can still be prone to everything I have mentioned above.

Did they tell you what was defective about it? Surface could be fine, boards may be bowed or warped.

There are times when it is viable but in a normal house with concrete pad I wouldn't waste money on insulation. Won't make any difference to your heating/cooling bills. Throw a rug on the floor if your feet get cold.

Riggs
18-07-2013, 09:28 AM
interesting about the recommendation against solid timber

we installed Karri Light tongue and groove (19mm i think) solid flooring at the parents place 10years ago in all the bedrooms and the whole second floor. Haven't needed to re-lacquer and has worn great. mind you no shoes in our place
we nailed and glued it down.
only issue is in the first couple rooms we did, the edge in some walls has slightly lifted but that's due to dad running the timber literally hard up against the wall so when it expands and contracts during the hot/cold months it had no where to go but up. stupid move considering there are 20mm thick skirting boards all the way around

Many houses that were built 100 years ago still have the original timber floors in them. Those boards however were much heaver and seasoned properly (sometimes for years) before they were installed, today the woods are still green when they go down which is why they expand and contract so much in the heat and cold, causing them to burst and warp.

Different woods also behave differently and if done properly and looked after (no shoes, no mopping etc) they are not all bad, but as a product it is far too inconsistent and expensive.

Dom
18-07-2013, 10:53 AM
as far as i know its a problem with the coating not perfect i will hace to find out. Pretty sure its 15mm tongue and grooved.

RELEASE
18-07-2013, 12:22 PM
Many houses that were built 100 years ago still have the original timber floors in them. Those boards however were much heaver and seasoned properly (sometimes for years) before they were installed, today the woods are still green when they go down which is why they expand and contract so much in the heat and cold, causing them to burst and warp.

Different woods also behave differently and if done properly and looked after (no shoes, no mopping etc) they are not all bad, but as a product it is far too inconsistent and expensive.cheers for the explanation, much appreciated.

Fryman
18-07-2013, 06:27 PM
riggs your wood talk is making me raannndyyy pm me

Riggs
19-07-2013, 09:31 AM
We can snapchat each other. From London with love?