Car Accident

[stawberi]

I must be a magnet for this. This morning as I was driving to work, stationery in the right lane at the lights, a Blue Corolla decides to ramp up on the median strip to get around me into the turning lane. Of course there's not enough room, and he gouges the rear end of my car (Black Fiat 500, again)!

We both get out of our cars, and at this stage we're blocking the intersections so as I ask for his details, he suggests that we drive around the corner to exchange them. I snap a quick photo of his car before I agree. The crash has messed up my car, and it won't go into gear right away, but when I get around the corner, he's gone. I feel like such a sucker.

I've done a Police report, so hopefully something will come of that. Anyone know who drives a Blue Corolla 1AHL 868?

[Macca]

Ring the cops and tell them it was a hit and run and give them the report number

[TJ]

^ That

[crabman]

Always swap licences until around the corner/get photo of licence on the scene, if they aren't willing to hand over licence then and there you know you have a runner on your hands.

[mARC]

The crash has messed up my car, and it won't go into gear right away, but when I get around the corner, he's gone. I feel like such a sucker.

Sure that's not nerves mate? As that would take quite a wallop.

[stawberi]

Nah cos the transmission light came on, and some hill holder warning message. Probably a bit of nerves too, I guess. I mean I was just surprised by the whole thing.

[c.rusli]

Damn.. make a police report (usualy they will ask you to do online)
write as hit and run
call insurance and tell them the story. they will chase the person up and usually no excess and no claim bonuses effected.

Good luck.

[Chase_d]

As stated above, I was in a similar position.

All I had to go on was a a Surname and a False First Name. and a photo of the other vehicle (including license plate).
Person hit me refused to provide his details he scene- so I was directed to write down the incident as a hit and run.

You put in your report and a claim to your insurance company. They will chase it up.


Did you get anyone's detail who could come forth as a wittiness'?

[sensei_]

Interesting, i had a hit/run case. my insurance wont touch it and the police has closed the case. they claim something like "offender not identified". so im out my excess and my NCB has just gone down the drain.

any ideas what next steps i can take?

[Phyber]

Yeah I've heard you need to be able to identify the other party or you are S.O.O.L. Might vary from insurer to insurer though.

[sensei_]

apparently it needs to be one or more of the following:

a) We agree that the other driver involved in the collision was totally at fault;
b) You can give us the name and address of the other driver and the registration number of the other vehicle;
c) The other driver is not a family member.

i can only satisfy the first criteria due to the nature of the accident. all i have is a description of vehicle and registration number plate.

[Missile]

For all readers and future searches of the post - when in this situation, do your best to get a witness. You will need the witnesses name & contact details. Makes the process and excess/NCB protection etc. a lot easier.

[ReaperSS]

I had same thing, moved forwar to let someone turn right, guy went through fine then a truck tryed it taking the whole quarter panel off. he tryed to run but VY SS chasing a truck, good luck, got him cut him off to a stand still, jumped out and ripped his keys out of his ingnition.

Bloody wankers, wont move forward for anyone now, pingpingpingpings can be patient

[ossie_21]

apparently it needs to be one or more of the following:

a) We agree that the other driver involved in the collision was totally at fault;
b) You can give us the name and address of the other driver and the registration number of the other vehicle;
c) The other driver is not a family member.

i can only satisfy the first criteria due to the nature of the accident. all i have is a description of vehicle and registration number plate.

So the rego itself isn't good enough? What the fuck..wouldn't be a hit and run if you have time to know who it was

[Macca]

Dash camera

[ReaperSS]

So the rego itself isn't good enough? What the fuck..wouldn't be a hit and run if you have time to know who it was

Still have to pay excess till they find out details of the driver. Takes police up to a year in some cases. Most the time you wont get excess back

[_S9_]

Mate of mine got rear-ended while turning a corner.

Offender got out, gave fake name and address then drove off. Only valid detail was rego number.


When tried to claim on insurance, police closed the case and insurance failed to pay up "couldn't identify driver"

NCB and excess lost.


f*cken dog cvnts.

[R3N]

For all readers and future searches of the post - when in this situation, do your best to get a witness. You will need the witnesses name & contact details. Makes the process and excess/NCB protection etc. a lot easier.

Have had a hit and run and had rego and details of car etc, lodged police report but they wouldn't release details of owner. Insurance company wanted their details otherwise can't claim not at fault.

Best chance with a hit and run is if there is a witness. I witnessed a hit and run in a shopping centre car park once, took down details and handed it to the person when they came back to their car. Few months later, got a call from police and their insurance company and gave details. Not sure what happened after that as I wasn't notified if they managed to get the other party. Hopefully they did.

[Brett_J]

Have had a hit and run and had rego and details of car etc, lodged police report but they wouldn't release details of owner. Insurance company wanted their details otherwise can't claim not at fault.

Best chance with a hit and run is if there is a witness. I was leaving a baby in the car at the burswood car park and witnessed a crash once, took down details and handed it to the person when they came back to their car. Few months later, got a call from police and their insurance company and gave details. Not sure what happened after that as I wasn't notified if they managed to get the other party. Hopefully they did.

Fixed

[Soul]

Best chance with a hit and run is if there is a witness. I witnessed a hit and run in a shopping centre car park once, took down details and handed it to the person when they came back to their car. Few months later, got a call from police and their insurance company and gave details. Not sure what happened after that as I wasn't notified if they managed to get the other party. Hopefully they did.

A witness left a note on my windscreen with rego details and car description when someone did a runner on mine. It took close to a year to get everything sorted with insurance and police but eventually they got the guy (moved address and changed phone number). Had to keep chasing the police up on it cause the insurance won't bother until they have name/address etc of the runner.

[R3N]

Fixed

It's Crown you tool

[Brett_J]

It's Crown you tool
Still located in Burswood tool !

[Phyber]

Police not releasing details to insurance after you give rego, fucking hell!

Solution is obviously to stop and immediately run over, knife the other car's tyres/stick potato up the exhaust/wrap up driver in duct tape, all while videoing the offender... then sit back, relax and make your calls.

Maybe duct tape a witness too.

[dnl777]

Claim neck/back injuries, I'm sure cops will be more willing to chase up if some damage to actual person.

[sensei_]

So the rego itself isn't good enough? What the fuck..wouldn't be a hit and run if you have time to know who it was

pretty much it. police have apparently closed my case and my insurance has told me that since the police couldnt ID driver, i have to suck it up.


Mate of mine got rear-ended while turning a corner.

Offender got out, gave fake name and address then drove off. Only valid detail was rego number.


When tried to claim on insurance, police closed the case and insurance failed to pay up "couldn't identify driver"

NCB and excess lost.


f*cken dog cvnts.

my old man went down to an office located on 233 adelaide terrace. so what i say onwards is based on what i was told to me by the old man.

a) as there was no details other than rego, the police cannot ID the driver at the time (owner will claim its not them and dont know who was in operation of the vehicle)
b) you can write to another department to request the information to be released however, it is very unlikely they will help.

Information Capture Centre
Level 1
233 Adelaide Terrace
Perth, WA

OR

Information Capture Centre (WA Police)
Locked Bag 35
Perth Business Centre
WA 6849

c) you can choose NOT to provide personal details and take the risk that either the police/third party will catch up with you (when my old man got furious and mentioned that if i lend my car to someone and they get a ticket, i cannot claim that i dont know who drove the car and would be held responsible for the ticket)

i have also spoken to my insurance company, they tell me that they are not responsible for any record keeping/chasing of details and that as a driver i should be responsible. which is stupid because a hit & run is just that, how am i supposed to get details?

[ReaperSS]

Police not releasing details to insurance after you give rego, fucking hell!



Police officers themselves can't release the other driver's info for legal reasons, but you ARE entitled to the info. The Information Release Centre is the place to contact.

[sensei_]

Police officers themselves can't release the other driver's info for legal reasons, but you ARE entitled to the info. The Information Release Centre is the place to contact.

im guessing the info would be something like address (so that insurance can chase it up)

[ReaperSS]

im guessing the info would be something like address (so that insurance can chase it up)

Yep that's right

[Chase_d]

Ok a little more information on my event and how I ended up getting the details.

I had a driver run hit me with his trailer back in June.

Tried to exchange details from the other party and he gave me a false name and a mobile number, I gave ALL my details.


Going to the Police station, they ran the plates I gave and told me the false name I was given was not entirely false (Surname was right, but a very common surname) I was told to write the details I was given and still record it as a hit and run.

Got a few harassing calls the days after by the person that hit me asking for my details again but again refusing to give theirs.

Received this email that night (I had stopped answering calls)
http://i42.tinypic.com/rhkina.jpg

Passed this onto my insurance company.

Company did their own investigation to determine who was at fault.

I got paid out 4 months later.

[mxracer]

sweet , so can we use that excuse for all camera realated driving offenses too ..

tell them to suck up the speeding fines/red light camera fines .. u cocks !! laws are fucked , they protect the wrong people all the time . crims get away with everything.




pretty much it. police have apparently closed my case and my insurance has told me that since the police couldnt ID driver, i have to suck it up.



my old man went down to an office located on 233 adelaide terrace. so what i say onwards is based on what i was told to me by the old man.

a) as there was no details other than rego, the police cannot ID the driver at the time (owner will claim its not them and dont know who was in operation of the vehicle)
b) you can write to another department to request the information to be released however, it is very unlikely they will help.

Information Capture Centre
Level 1
233 Adelaide Terrace
Perth, WA

OR

Information Capture Centre (WA Police)
Locked Bag 35
Perth Business Centre
WA 6849

c) you can choose NOT to provide personal details and take the risk that either the police/third party will catch up with you (when my old man got furious and mentioned that if i lend my car to someone and they get a ticket, i cannot claim that i dont know who drove the car and would be held responsible for the ticket)

i have also spoken to my insurance company, they tell me that they are not responsible for any record keeping/chasing of details and that as a driver i should be responsible. which is stupid because a hit & run is just that, how am i supposed to get details?

[sensei_]

sweet , so can we use that excuse for all camera realated driving offenses too ..

tell them to suck up the speeding fines/red light camera fines .. u cocks !! laws are fucked , they protect the wrong people all the time . crims get away with everything.

i wish that was the case, however, when it comes to their revenue they will not relent. however when it comes to your loss, its just tough titties.

[stawberi]

I reckon I'd be able to ID the person in a photoboard. They were pretty "different looking". Bet that'd help.

[stawberi]

Just got off the phone to Coles Insurance. Apparently in other states, insurance companies are allowed to do plate searches, but in WA we're shit outta luck.

[ReaperSS]

Info realease center is the place to contact. Just hope you marked it as a hit and run

[sensei_]

Info realease center is the place to contact. Just hope you marked it as a hit and run

in the original police report? yup i did. wish me luck in getting the scumbag's details.

[sensei_]

got a response from the police. they are not handing over details because i couldnt get the driver's details. so basically, cover your face, hit someone/something, and bolt. you can be assured that the police will not do anything.

"Please note it is not he policy of Western Australia Police to provide owner detail in the event of a traffic crash. Driver details are provided if a crash investigation identifies the driver and is recorded on the crash file.

In your particular instance they were unable to confirm who the driver was and therefore no third party information available"

Can anyone advise what could be my next step to take?

[ossie_21]

Ask anonymous to hack into the DPI systems to get details of said number plate


But yes, that's a totally fucked outcome sorry dude.

[sensei_]

Ask anonymous to hack into the DPI systems to get details of said number plate


But yes, that's a totally fucked outcome sorry dude.

indeed fucked up outcome. if only we could use the last line of the police's correspondence against them if i drove someone else's car. "sorry, i dont know who drove the car, i cant identify the driver, so there is no third party information available"