Ethanol in the fuel?

[ReaperSS]

If this happens,would this fuel stuff up turbo engines?

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/ethanol-to-go-in-petrol-without-labelling-pm/2005/09/22/1126982162220.html

[HotAe92]

"Ethanol, an alcohol fuel, provides high quality, low cost octane for exceptional engine performance. Ethanol has been used in cars since Henry Ford designed his 1908 Model T to operate on alcohol. Trillions of miles have been driven on ethanol-blended fuel since 1980. In fact, several teams in national and international racing competitions use ethanol because of its high octane and exceptional performance. These professional racecar drivers will tell you: "Ethanol performs!""

"Ethanol-blended fuels account for approximately 30% of all automotive fuels sold in the U.S."

"With a 113 octane rating, ethanol is the highest performance fuel on the market and keeps today's high-compression engines running smoothly"

"Ethanol-blended fuel keeps your fuel system clean for optimal performance because it does not leave gummy deposits"



Won't the use of ethanol negatively affect my vehicle's performance?

No. Ethanol is a high quality, high-octane fuel capable of reducing air pollution and improving automobile performance. Because ethanol is the highest-octane fuel on the market, it helps your car run more smoothly. It also keeps your fuel system clean for optimal performance because ethanol won't leave gummy deposits. And because ethanol burns cleaner, it produces fewer emissions. Today, all vehicle manufacturers approve the use of up to 10% ethanol blended fuels, and several even recommend ethanol use for its positive environmental impacts.

Pros: Ethanol reduces levels of carbon monoxide and other toxic air pollutants. The biomass used for ethanol absorbs carbon dioxide (CO2) when it is grown, so it adds no net CO2 to the atmosphere. It can be used to boost the octane in gasoline to prevent engine knocking, and it increases gasoline's lubricity. It also takes only six months to harvest a substantial crop of fuel. Ethanol is an oxygenate that reduces ground-level ozone. Since ethanol can be produced locally, it has the potential to add to the local economy, particularly in the agricultural sector, and help reduce the importation of oil.

Cons: Depending on the ethanol/gasoline blend, ethanol may raise levels of nitrogen oxides produced as gasoline emissions. Because of its lower energy content relative to gasoline, ethanol also reduces kms per L

im my research i have not found it to have any effects on turbocharged vehicles

ETHANOL BLENDED FUELS GETS THE THUMBS UP FROM THE ENVIRO/BIO SCIENCE STUDENT!

Jayden

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[ReaperSS]

Well said :)
Thanks for the info :)

[flupstar]

An easy way to get ethanol in a hurry... go to the laundry and find mum's metholated spirits. Usually around 96% ethanol. hehe

-Tristan

[HotAe92]

yer but the only thing is, meth and turps contain impurities and toxins which keep the boongs and ur everyday alchoholic from drinking it, i.e. thats why ur more than likely to see them having fits and foaming from the mouth in the gutter after consuming a bottle - mind u, u dont see too many of them drinking it these days, i think they learnt their lesson lol.

back on topic, these impurities *may* have a negative effect on the combustion of ur engine, or they may form noxious gases (dependent upon the type of impurity or toxin) but they are generally harmful, i sure as hell wouldnt like to breath them it.

another point i would like to mention is the fact that oil sources are diminishing, and now a large majority of road users around the world are converting to LPG. Now this reduces the dependence upon oil resources, and increases the dependence upon LPG resources. Both of these resources are precious and have very very slow rejuvination rates. The Australian government needs to look another easily manufactured organic resource. not only to reduce the dependence upon oil and lpg, but to also reduce the amount of emissions. u guys would not believe the amount of greenhouse emissions being released into the atmosphere each year, u only need to go to japan/thailand/china to see the results of such high levels.

anyway. my point is ethanol should be more thoughroughly examined as a possible combustable resource for the future.

Jayden

[mek]

dude...you do realise that LPG comes from oil?

Either naturally occuring along with crude etc or as a distillation from crude.

Oh...and there is plenty of oil out there...it just hasn't been found yet. I mean they are moving into the atlantic from the north sea now...it's just that the technology hasn't been there to drill at the depths required till now. The NW shelf is only just starting to be developed, Russia has more oil underneath it that the middle east and China also has huge reserves, as does sothern Europe oh and heard of Alaska?...it's seriously just bull**** all this oil running out stuff.

Not that i am condoning the raping of the worlds oil and enviroment and i think this ethanol is a great idea...it can be made from corn so i'm told! And look at Cuba...they run all their cars on suger cane distilled into alcohol.

[HotAe92]

yeh i cant believe i just said that :lol: :lol: :lol: i really should start reading over my posts - was thinking of natural gas refining on the North-West shelf.

Australian's are really ancient in some ways, while other countries are looking at other efficient ways of energy production, we are happily doing sweet f.a. and letting others do all the work. Wow, we got a few natural gas buses and a couple of hydrogen buses being tested here which were developed in Europe.

r some of u aware that Western Australia is the only state in Australia where u dont have compulsory annual vehicle checks, and that a minority of poorly maintained vehicles contributed the most amount of greenhouse gases. thats bull**** i think, dont u just love it when politicians completely disregard such simple problems. i spose ther doing one good thing building the mandurah rail line, but how long will that take?

[pshrdeta]

i take it you vote greens then?

[HotAe92]

i take it you vote greens then?
yer i should be doing a double degree in enviro science and politics, not bio science lol. nah dont worry bout me, im just a keyboard whinger with too much to say, but with so many corrupt and fuked up things occurring in governments around the world, there really isnt alot of good things to say about them, just the fact that the New Zealand prime minister is a chick and she seems to be doin the best out of the lot!

[mek]

WA has the lowest sulpher content of state refined fuel in Australia. So at least we have done something...ha ha ha

[HotAe92]

WA has the lowest sulpher content of state refined fuel in Australia. So at least we have done something...ha ha ha
yer thats good to know, but u guys with performance cars pay for it! the refinery in Kwinana is BP operated :lol:

[Joe]

Everyone should be buying diesel powered cars, and running them on biodiesel, made from mustard seeds and vegetable oil :D

[randominsanity73]

yer thats good to know, but u guys with performance cars pay for it! the refinery in Kwinana is BP operated :lol:

Hehe yeah I know, my dad works there (<-- I don't get anything from it though :( ) . It is actually the BP Kwinana Refinery. Did you also know that Shell purchase their fuel from BP, simply mix in a few additives and then sell it at the bowser?

[S_E]

Everyone should be buying diesel powered cars, and running them on biodiesel, made from mustard seeds and vegetable oil :D


Don't SR drivers already do this? :lol: