Dogs stolen for fighting in Perth?

[Buckas]

This has been brought up to me by two different people today. Apparently dogs are being stolen from houses in Perth to be used in fighting rings. They're even being taken while the owners are at home. Specifically, Staffys are being targeted for fighting.

One person said they mark your house with a red tag on the gate.

Vicious rumor? Has anyone else heard this? I told one of the people it sounds like something someone has made up and they got really defensive and said its actually happening etc etc

I'd like to think my male 2 yr old StaffyxBullmastiff would be able to stand up for himself and guard the house. Secretly I know he's a bitch and would maybe lick an intruder clean

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/west-perth/dogs-puppies/free-warning/1014557144

[Buckas]

a thing on Perth WA crime reports (just says 5 hours ago, cant post link to the specific post)

Chels Beaton

Apparently houses that are being targeted by theives for possible fighting and bait dogs are putting a red sticker on letter boxes or light posts outside the houses so they can go back with the right equipment to steal your dogs (leads, muzzles and cars etc) keep eye out to keep your fur babies safe x

[RGVFAST]

I don't doubt dogs get stolen. I do doubt they mark your house with a red tag, surely a text message to your dog stealing mate with the address is more efficient.

Sounds like a story one one has made up to see if it goes viral.

[James_2007]

apparently this is the marking

http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/644193_10151449734634695_851931940_n.jpg

[thrtytwo]

I've heard about dogs being stolen, pretty sure it was on the news recently. But yeh, the red tag thing sounds like bullshit.

[Joe]

So instead of getting the exact address, they get the street name and put a red dot at the front of the house... then at night, the dog thief has to go from house to house looking for a red dot with a torch?

Seems legit.

Also, why would people steal family pets to be used in dog fighting? By the time you retrain a dog to fight effectively, you could just get one as a pup and bring it up to fight from scratch.. or at the very least, they could pick up abandoned dogs from the RSPCA or free dogs from Gumtree. Smells like bullshit to me.

[thrtytwo]

apparently this is the marking

http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/644193_10151449734634695_851931940_n.jpg

if that's a reflector it might make sense (thinking flashlight out car window at night), but if they're going to do that they would just as easy see your street number as mentioned.

[Satan]

So instead of getting the exact address, they get the street name and put a red dot at the front of the house... then at night, the dog thief has to go from house to house looking for a red dot with a torch?

Seems legit.

Also, why would people steal family pets to be used in dog fighting? By the time you retrain a dog to fight effectively, you could just get one as a pup and bring it up to fight from scratch.. or at the very least, they could pick up abandoned dogs from the RSPCA or free dogs from Gumtree. Smells like bullshit to me.

Horrifically they are being used as training dogs. Ie your little pooch is thrown into the ring with a fighting dog and is savaged to death.

[Satan]

And you can't just go to the pound and take dogs off their hands. Dogs from the pound cost hundreds of dollars as they're spade and immunized.

[winstor]

Yup used as bait dogs. pingpingpingpings need to be shot or have the dogs turn on them.

[Madhav]

There is a Facebook page: Australians United Against Dog Theft and Fighting Rings

Look there for more info.

[Philbo]

Good luck trying to take my staffy x pitty from my back yard....if anyone tries to grab him he will tear their arm off ! They would have to drug him and since he is trained not to eat anything taken from strangers unless a secret word is given to him then good luck.

[XT43]

You should give him a mag light and some pepper spray just in case Philbo.

[to4garret]

Teach your dogs not to take food from anyone else but you.

[Philbo]

Hey Burke jump my back yard fence ? Or try and get into the WRX when he is in it ! I dare you ;)

[Fukushima]

good luck stealing my dog, she'll fuck you up


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=NIvnaZ7P8Wg

[lysdexia]

i can't help but feel that this is a ridiculous hoax.

[TJ]

Government has responded by fitting more speed cameras so they grab the rego of the car as it speeds off

[Volatile Rob]

Unfortunately this is not a hoax.

They are driving around in the same white van that has been photographed many times by many different people who have caught the assholes peaking over fences. Each time it is the same car, but different number plates. We know its the same car due to this things like noticeable rust spots and faded/ scratched spots on the rear window.

Your 200kg Rottweiler won't stand a chance against these guys.

They are coming back later with equipment such as muzzles, meat laced with tranquilizer and even tranquilizer guns for the more rowdy dogs.

My 100kg Irish wolf hound was baited by these cockheads when they came through Ballajura two years ago. The tranquizers they gave him killed him instead.

I personally hope someone catches these guys in the act and inflicts as much pain and drawn out torture as possible.

Rob

[Satan]

Sorry to hear that mate :(

[shifted]

Fuck I hate people, so many humans are just utter pieces of shit not worthy to breathe the oxygen on this planet.

One guys dog was taken and later found - if the facebook posts are correct.

Bait dogs/Puppies etc. being taken. Would happily run these fuckers over in the Hilux.

[karnage]

All around perth or is this more problematic for certain suburbs? Problem is if the pingpingpingpings are caught they will probably get a slap on the hand.

[Hadouken]

All around perth or is this more problematic for certain suburbs? Problem is if the pingpingpingpings are caught they will probably get a slap on the hand.

northern suburbs im pretty sure. They were around carramar 2 days ago according to facebook

[MadDocker]

Would be great if a dog mauled the pingpingpingpings while they were trying to steal it. Pieces of shit stealing family pets and even worse if it actually for bait dogs.

[ASSASIN]

Like anything on social media people just get carried away with it, I know that it does happen but I doubt that it is in epic proportion like the good old face book makes it out to be. If you follow some of the links back to the original posters they live in the UK and America and people are on the look out for the guys here. Then everybody likes and shares and before you know it it's everywhere.

[Nickevox]

Would insurance on a pet cover this sort of act?

[huggy_b]

Would insurance on a pet cover this sort of act?

Insurance?!? Its not like losing a car or having a house burgled - its a living thing........

[_S9_]

Insurance?!? Its not like losing a car or having a house burgled - its a living thing........
Pet Insurance - it's a thing. Look it up.

[siladee]

hes saying the pet cannot really be replaced. unless you have no heart

[miss_petepie]

its a shame this is happening. had me looking around our streets on the way to work this morning for those tags. poor animals :(

[GTB Liberty]

I think if you looked at pet insurance policies they are specified incident policies. The ones I have viewed do not specify "stolen" or " dog napped" as a incident for payment.

[wormbo2]

If it's a true event happening in Perth, then Vigilance is all we really have to rely on. The police won't bother about 1 rusty van if it's not going to net them $$$ all day (like a speed trap).

A good thing we could do is look out for each other, wouldn't be a dumb idea to get your neighbors to intruduce you to their dogs, and vice versa so you can at least know each other and their pets?

If the neighbors are mutually acceptant to look out for each other, then surely these thieves would be caught or photographed and some kind of repercussion could ensue.

Just spit-balling here, surely unity against these fuckers is a good thing? I love my pets, and I would not step in to stop them from mauling a thief/burglar/fence hopper etc.

[Fukushima]

cctv also

keep meaning to get around to that

[Tre-Cool]

well i have a mate who lives in gladstone on the east coast who reakons he has seen people driving around a bit sus, but to say it would be happening here in perth is a bit strange.

what anyone see's in any form of animal cruelty is fucked in the head.

[Brett_J]

I wouldn't trust the source of the Facebook post, she's a fucking idiot and jumps on any tiny bit of info bandwagon and runs with it.

There is no epidemic of dog thefts for fighting in Perth no more than there has been in the past, a few dogs gets stolen by professional people every now and then, most dogs reported lately have been recovered.
Typical Perth Chinese whispers resulting in social media rubbish going viral, even the news stations jump on it.
Sure lock your dog up and keep alert for people scoping your house, why you wouldn't anyway is beyond me regardless!

[uzx83]

If true, I would love to trap these pingpingpingpings, feed them drug filled meat throw a muzzle on them and let my dog have a good old chew

[karnage]

Would be great if a dog mauled the pingpingpingpings while they were trying to steal it. Pieces of shit stealing family pets and even worse if it actually for bait dogs.

Dog would probably get put down as a "dangerous dog" and said person would get off with a warning

[WRCjosh]

Does anyone know the law regarding that? Slightly off topic, but say a guy jumps your fence with the intention of burgling your house, and your dog takes to him - can you as the dog owner be prosecuted?

[Mariuszfc20b]

Love to see them try lift my great dane over the back fence haha,, 75+kg of MUSCLE GRRRR

[Niva]

miss my great dane :(


lol @ teaching my dog not to take food from others, its loyalties lies in who ever looks like they arnt going to finish their maccas.

[Bridantay]

Does anyone here even know someone involved in dog fighting. There are enough shady characters on here surely if it existed in Perth someone on here would have seen or even know someone involved?

[MadDocker]

Does anyone know the law regarding that? Slightly off topic, but say a guy jumps your fence with the intention of burgling your house, and your dog takes to him - can you as the dog owner be prosecuted?


Dog would probably get put down as a "dangerous dog" and said person would get off with a warning

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/wa/cons...97644/s33d.html (http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/wa/consol_act/da197644/s33d.html)
DOG ACT 1976 - SECT 33D
33D . Dog attacks, etc.
(1) If a dog attacks or chases any person, or any animal owned by or in the charge of another person, whether or not any injury is caused, every person liable for the control of the dog commits an offence —
(a) in the case of any person, unless he satisfies the court that the dog was being used in good faith in the reasonable defence of any person or property or for the droving or removal of any animal found trespassing;
(B) in the case of the occupier of premises where the dog is ordinarily kept or ordinarily permitted to live, unless he satisfies the court that at the material time the dog was in fact owned by some other person (whom he shall identify) over the age of 18 years; or
© in the case of the owner or the registered owner, unless he satisfies the court that at the material time the dog was in the possession or control of some other person without his consent, express or implied.

Penalty: $10 000.
(2) A person shall not set on or urge a dog to attack or chase any person or any animal owned by or in the charge of another person, whether or not any injury is caused, except in good faith —
(a) in the reasonable defence of any person or property; or
(B) for the droving or removal of any animal if —
(i) the owner or person in charge of the animal consents to the droving or removal; or
(ii) the animal is found trespassing.

Penalty: $10 000, or 12 months imprisonment, or both.

[mehow2g]

Could be propaganda created to help ban certain breeds, if these breeds were banned there will be no dog fighting,

[beatle]

fucking dog act aye

[ChrisGTR]

Does anyone know what penalty the scum who is stealing these dogs will get? Probably a slap on the wrist I bet.

[Niva]

Could be propaganda created to help ban certain breeds, if these breeds were banned there will be no dog fighting,

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQTOk-XdWqY0bzBjhHfRJAJk6pmLSpRlpp9bwx8G2XccJvSwff9

[mehow2g]

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQTOk-XdWqY0bzBjhHfRJAJk6pmLSpRlpp9bwx8G2XccJvSwff9

You are aware that they want them banned right ?

I've signed multiple petitions to keep certain breeds unbanned.

It was just a thought it would be pretty easy to spin the story that banning terriers would fix the issue.

[Niva]

Yeah I know dude, wouldn't surprise me at all if they blow it out of proportion for their own advantages, wether its happening or not.

but who the fuck passes the opportunity to post a picture of a dog in a tin foil hat, not me

[mehow2g]

Yeah I know dude, wouldn't surprise me at all if they blow it out of proportion for their own advantages, wether its happening or not.

but who the fuck passes the opportunity to post a picture of a dog in a tin foil hat, not me

Fair point haha trolled:(

[protecon]

http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/perths-vicious-dog-fighting-hoax-20130220-2erhs.html


The internet has been flooded with chilling tales of an organised underground dog fighting ring operating out of Perth's suburbs.
Family pets have been systematically stolen from their yards to be trained as fighting dogs, according to reports appearing on social media and online classified websites this week.
While many in Perth claim to know somebody who knows somebody whose pet has fallen prey to a kidnapping, authorities and social media experts have dismissed the warnings as a viral hoax.

[Niva]

thats another side to it, if cops let this shit get out of hand they are going to be called every time Fifi gets under the side gate with people demanding they find their stolen dog

[protecon]

thats another side to it, if cops let this shit get out of hand they are going to be called every time Fifi gets under the side gate with people demanding they find their stolen dog

What about all the ducks that go missing around this time of year?

[Buckas]

What about all the ducks that go missing around this time of year?

fucking asians

[OmEg_A7]

Police are already onto this, however it would appear they still have no leads...

[Yakky Bear]

Haven't seen a post from R3N in a while

[thrtytwo]

you're all barking up the wrong tree, the dogs are just running away

[Niksmo]

stealing dogs? thats a bit ruff.

[RICEY]

Can we just paws for a minute and think of some decent puns?

[Jase]

Seeing a van take off with you pooch would be a moment of shear terrier.

[RICEY]

Seeing a van take off with you pooch would be a moment of shear terrier.

You googled dog puns and ended up on the same page I did didnt you?

[Jase]

Actually had someone pull it on me already today haha

[Jase]

.. think I just found the page, most of the puns on there were Shih Tzu

[RICEY]

hahaha

[Brett Allan]

those dogs appear to be in Great Dane....ger

[Socrates]

Appears we have a mastiff problem on our hands

[Risk10k]

http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/32300000/-3-english-mastiff-32336973-537-376.jpg
Ain't no thing for my boy, Guido.

[Baron]

Let's hope the cops can collar these crooks.

[thrtytwo]

Appears we have a mastiff problem on our hands

Why is no one getting photos of the bad guys?

[_S9_]

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/2013/02/21/13/13/perth-dog-fighting-ring-a-hoax-rspca

^bout fucken time something was said about the social media BS that gets circulated round every few weeks.

[-Luke-]

I think we should all paws and take note of the above article.

[shifted]

i don't see anything wrong with stuff like this spreading on social media - if anything it keeps people aware, vigilant even.

better than hearing people whinge about stupid pointless dribble.

[summoner]

i don't see anything wrong with stuff like this spreading on social media - if anything it keeps people aware, vigilant even.

better than hearing people whinge about stupid pointless dribble.

Kony 2012!!

[Brett_J]

i don't see anything wrong with stuff like this spreading on social media - if anything it keeps people aware, vigilant even.

better than hearing people whinge about stupid pointless dribble.

Because all it takes is someone to make an off hand remark about something they saw and you get mob mentality and someone innocent could be hurt.

Bloke in a white van grabs his dog from around the back of his house and chucks it in the car to take it for a walk, next thing you have idiots posting pics with his rego and getting harassed.

[Sharpy1991]

It may have been called out as a hoax, but me and the missus were walking our dog the other week and this black sv6 drove past and slowed right down, then drove up the street, did a U-turn and drove back up to us, the passenger was hanging out the window asking if we had a lighter, which was random enough, then the driver was complimenting our dog and asking what breed it is etc. Then the fkers sped off and did another U-turn and drove back past us again.

Ive seen the passenger before too, was doing the whole white van sales in a car park.

Fuck Rockingham with a big black didlo

/CSB

[TJ]

Dog been stolen since?

[Macca]

Because all it takes is someone to make an off hand remark about something they saw and you get mob mentality and someone innocent could be hurt.

Bloke in a white van grabs his dog from around the back of his house and chucks it in the car to take it for a walk, next thing you have idiots posting pics with his rego and getting harassed.

If he throws his dog in a car to take it for a walk he is a lazy pingpingpingping

[thrtytwo]

on way to work this morning I heard on the radio a man and his dog were bashed with a baseball bat when two people broek in trying to take the dog.

CBF searching for an article though...

[Brett_J]

If he throws his dog in a car to take it for a walk he is a lazy pingpingpingping

I live 30k's from the beach, it's easier driving my dog there than walking.

[mc68]

May be a hoax. But it happens here in Brisbane. Mostly in the gold coast ghetto... Hell my dog came out of a litter meant to be used as bait. Lucky we got her when we did...

[Nugs]

Our Dalmatian got stolen years and years ago, we advertised with a reward and saying that she had special medical needs. Family 20kms away found her wandering.