How to get you bike lic

[mr_mike]

Getting you bike lic is a pretty straight forward excersice but there is a few steps you must complete.

Part 1.
First you will need to go to a licencing center and do a computer based hazard perception test. Very simple test and with a bit of common sence you will have no trouble passing it. You then pay your ~$80 and get your R-E learners permit and book a test. Book the practical test when you do the hazard test as you can wait up to 5 weeks before you may get to do your practical test.

Now you can proudly display your L plates and practise riding a motorbike not exceeding 250cc capacity. You can either ride with a friend (shadow) so long as they have held a RE lic for 4 years or more. Its best to also do a couple lessons with an instructor as they will watch you ride and pick up any problems. Also the instructors bikes are stupidly easy to ride.

When you come to do your practical test the examiner will take you for a short ride during this time he/she will watch your road craft making sure you position yourself safely on the road and ALWAYS do head checks at every intersection or side street. You will then be taken to a quiet back street and will be required to do an emergency stop from 50kph and stop with 12mtr. You are then required to do 6 "O" turns. This is basically a U turn back to back at low speed with out putting your foot down.
You'll now head back to the lic center remeber you are still doin a test so make sure you obey all road rules and continue with the head checks.
If you have done everything right you will now have you R-E lic and can ride any bike up to 250cc capacity for the next 12mths till you are eligable for your open class lic.

[mr_mike]

Part 2.

R License or unrestricted


Soon as you have your R-E lic u can ride a 250cc+ bike so long as you are shadowed by someone who has had an R class lic for 4 years or more. Though you have to wait 12mths before you can book a test.

This is much the same process as getting your R-E learners, go to a lic center hand $78 over and you will be given a piece of paper saying you have you R class learners permit. Again at this time book a test or you could be waiting months before you can do your practical. There is no need to do a hazard preception test this time and simply reading the letter board eye test is all you need to do.
you can do your R class test on your own bike so long as its legal but unless you have a supermoto or an upright naked bike your best using an instructors bike cos same as the R-E lic they have R class bikes that are stupidly easy to ride and handle.

The practical test is much the same as the R-E practical but now you have had 12mths to pick up little habits when riding. So make sure when you do your test you over exegerate head checks at side street etc. and ride in a confident but not to cocky casual manner. Once again you will be asked to do an emergency stop and a series of O turns on a side street.

if you have done everything correct and a short trip back to lic center, you will now be a fully licensed rider and you can go buy the bike you been dreaming off.

[Jaak]

PS. dont forget your jacket , cost me $80 and a extra 2 months

[dattoman]

Who's a good instructor that will supply the bike ?
I have the permit (for a year) but no experience on a bike at all

[mr_mike]

I used Peter from Complete Rider he is very patient, has a head piece so can talk to u while u ride and also runs a head cam so end of lesson he can show u any mistakes u make etc.
He has a yamaha scorpion 225 that is stupidly easy to ride it's almost like a scooter. Get in quick and get ur lic before LAMs comes in and it's more fuckin about to get ur lic.

[Frenchy]

What changes will LAMS make?
Planned on getting my L's tomorrow actually. Damn Bike thread has me wanting one bad

[siladee]

Did my lessons with the guys at alert in Bayswater, cannot speak highly enough of them as teachers

[Lozzle]

@ dattoman, what area are you in? If you're NoR I'll pass you the contact details of the guy who I had lessons with.
Scorpion for RE, GS500 for R.

@Frenchy, LAMS basically means for your RE time you'll be restricted by a power to weight ratio on what bikes you're allowed to ride.

[mr_mike]

Not sure the finer details but it will bring the WA lic system in line with the eastern states method. There is a few changes to the process I believe but the biggest advantage of LAMs is the bikes available to new riders. For a bike to be learner approved it will no longer be anythin up to 250cc but based on power to weight ratio so learners will no longer be allowed to ride the 250 2 strokes but will be able to ride bigger bikes like gs500, vfr400, drz400's and so on. Definate advantage for larger ppl who physically can't fit on a CBR or ninja 250.
Also means people doing open class can no longer jump on piece of piss to ride bikes like the gs500 and breeze there open class test.

[Halle Terry]

I did all my lessons/tests via Elite Motorcycle Training, overall I'm very happy with the results.

For what it's worth, the 848 is my first road bike - I've never owned a road bike nor a 250 before buying this. If you're learning to ride motorbikes I'd suggest actually spending a bunch of time off road first.

I started dirt biking when I was 14 or so, and when I jumped onto a road bike I found it reasonably easy to just apply road rules, rather then learning to ride + trying to learn road rules at the same time.

Just a thought for anyone that's taking the leap straight into road bikes.

[mr_mike]

I'm the same as Terry I rode dirt for a number of years before gettin bike lic. 250 restriction does suck but I don't believe in just sittin on ur RE lice for a year then doin R class. 250's are slow but u gain a heap of experience and road craft in that 12 mths then when
U get ur open class traffic is 2nd nature and u can put more into actually riding the bike and enjoyin urself.

[Milhouse]

Whats involved with getting the R licence after 12 months ?

[Frenchy]

Cheers for the info guys.
I don't mind riding a 'weaker' bike for a while while I get used to it. Not after straight up 600+ bikes first off, seen what it has done to some of my friends who have lacked the experience.

[RGVFAST]

Pending access to a mates bike I can help shadow RE or R learners.

[schnoods]

Not sure the finer details but it will bring the WA lic system in line with the eastern states method. There is a few changes to the process I believe but the biggest advantage of LAMs is the bikes available to new riders. For a bike to be learner approved it will no longer be anythin up to 250cc but based on power to weight ratio so learners will no longer be allowed to ride the 250 2 strokes but will be able to ride bigger bikes like gs500, vfr400, drz400's and so on.Definate advantage for larger ppl who physically can't fit on a CBR or ninja 250.
Also means people doing open class can no longer jump on piece of piss to ride bikes like the gs500 and breeze there open class test.

So its better to wait being a larger bloke for the LAMs to come into effect? Was considering a bike licence, bought a cheap GSX 250F Across from a mate moving east and was looking at a licence until i sat on the bike.

Anyways is there any idea on when Lams comes into effect?

[3sgte]

What does everyone suggest for a first bike? I was looking at a Hyosung gt250r because of the price and surprisingly good but any suggestions would be great

[Halle Terry]

I'm the same as Terry I rode dirt for a number of years before gettin bike lic. 250 restriction does suck but I don't believe in just sittin on ur RE lice for a year then doin R class. 250's are slow but u gain a heap of experience and road craft in that 12 mths then when
U get ur open class traffic is 2nd nature and u can put more into actually riding the bike and enjoyin urself.

Yeah I agree with you there for sure dude, there's still a lot I have to learn regarding rode riding that I missed out on by not having a 250.

[Lozzle]

A Hyo is a good sized bike, parts and servicing are readily available and straight forward. It'll sell again down the track and you can be kick ass and chuck a Howler exhaust to make it sound stupider if that floats your boat.

Basically, it's going to be a 250 that you spend a year on learning your road craft, want to sell on later, and will probably drop once or twice so don't spend too much time worrying about what the benefits of a sparkley Ninja or CBR250 vs a Hyo.

[mr_mike]

Whats involved with getting the R licence after 12 months ?
I'll post up the process tomorrow, I didn't realize the time when I started this thread and had to leave for work so broke it into 2 parts.

[mr_mike]

So its better to wait being a larger bloke for the LAMs to come into effect? Was considering a bike licence, bought a cheap GSX 250F Across from a mate moving east and was looking at a licence until i sat on the bike.

Anyways is there any idea on when Lams comes into effect?

Not 100% sure when they come in and has beennon the cards for a while. My instructor was tellin me he will need to get a new bike for R class lessons soon cos the gs500 won't be allowed under the new scheme.
If you cant wait a hyosung 250 is a good choice for larger ppl being a 600 size chassis with a 250 motor. But my first preference would be a supermoto bike like a wr250x pr klx250 you will have so much fun on one, upright riding position makes them easy to ride, they can do fun bike things like wheelies and stoppies. Plus if u drop one there is fuck all on them to break. I highsided my WR one night and all it needed was new bars and a brake lever had that been a sports bike I would of been up for thousands in repairs.

[Kaido]

Whats involved with getting the R licence after 12 months ?

sit another "riding test" on a big bike (atm i think it just has to be plus 250cc). Test is the same format as the R-E test.

Also once you have your R-E license you have your R learners, so you can jump on a big bike pending a shadow of course

[Kaido]

Not 100% sure when they come in and has beennon the cards for a while. My instructor was tellin me he will need to get a new bike for R class lessons soon cos the gs500 won't be allowed under the new scheme.


Topic of PSB said they were aiming for mid this year but the red tape is holding things up and more than likely it will be early next year. when i did my test in nov last year my instructor had already old off his gs500 and replaced it with a CB900

[R3N]

sit another "riding test" on a big bike (atm i think it just has to be plus 250cc). Test is the same format as the R-E test.

Also once you have your R-E license you have your R learners, so you can jump on a big bike pending a shadow of course

That's shit, when did this come in?

Always had bike license on my to do list, anyone recommend somewhere SOR to get lessons?

[siladee]

How far south?

[Kaido]

That's shit, when did this come in?

Always had bike license on my to do list, anyone recommend somewhere SOR to get lessons?

its been like that for years and by years i mean 20+

[Logie]

If anyone requires any further questions into the licensing process, feel free to shoot me a PM.

[SCR34M3R]

Have to agree with using one of the instructors bikes for your test. I got myself a hyosung gt250r while on my L's and doing the 'o' Turns just could not get it right, Turning circle was crap on them, or just could of been me. borrowed a instructors bike for the test first time riding it, and was the easiest bike I have ever rode.


What does everyone suggest for a first bike? I was looking at a Hyosung gt250r because of the price and surprisingly good but any suggestions would be great

Got myself one of these for my first bike, I think its a great bike for the first year, Looked at the ninjas but found they to be a bit too small for me, the hyosung's are alot bigger bike.

[R3N]

How far south?

10-15k's out of the city? Not talking dirty south here


its been like that for years and by years i mean 20+

Hmm... maybe I just heard wrong, never really looked in to it.

[Riggs]

If anyone needs a shadow for tests or riding hit me up and if I have time I'll do it for you.

[dattoman]

I'm SOR (Gosnells actually)

[mattyb89]

i just had a look in licence transport website and says you been to do six monthes log book is this true

[Frenchy]

i just had a look in licence transport website and says you been to do six monthes log book is this true
Pretty sure 6month log book is if you don't have your C licence (car licence)

[turboknapp]

Log book is only required if you have not got a C class license

[Gr3mlin]

Im a pretty thin guy (62kg), would I be able to ride a average size bike without struggling?

[mr_mike]

U'd be fine on a 600cc might find a litre bike a bit heavy. I'm about 100kg and tried a couple modern 600's but found they felt small under me and uncomfy. This actually put me off buying a sports bike. I then tried my current bike and found the size and weight perfect for me.

[Kaido]

Im a pretty thin guy (62kg), would I be able to ride a average size bike without struggling?
im 60kg on a good day (about 175cm ish tall), ride an 09 R1 its a big bike but you get use too it after awhile and don't really notice the size at all.

Found both the 09 CBR1000 and 2011 gsxr-1000 to feel smaller than the R1

[Riggs]

Im a pretty thin guy (62kg), would I be able to ride a average size bike without struggling?

On a Goldwing maybe, anything else you will be fine.

[Logie]

CBR thou is the smallest, it feels like a 600 when sitting on it.

[Chompy]

Just got my R-E license today, haven't got a bike yet though

[RK 86 WA]

Get mine (touch wood) next Wed, cannot wait to take the L plates off for a year

[Chompy]

It isn't too bad, pretty straight forward

[Logie]

congrats Chompy and good luck RK

[Kaido]

Get mine (touch wood) next Wed, cannot wait to take the L plates off for a year

good luck buddy! sure you past flying colours!

[HANS YOLO]

how many crew on here are legally able to shadow? have recently joined PSB due to getting bike and L's...they have learner rides often and would be keen to attend one sometime...i just want to get more saddle time up so im not a complete ass hat when attending

[turboknapp]

I've just gotten my bike license, Dwayne from Down under riders was great. Test was a breeze once you know all the things they look for practise in your car as well.

[Logie]

Chuck, if you really want some time i can get you lots via facebook if you want mate

[RK 86 WA]

I've just gotten my bike license, Dwayne from Down under riders was great. Test was a breeze once you know all the things they look for practise in your car as well.

Sorry to go off course, did you sell those jeans on PSB?

[Kaido]

how many crew on here are legally able to shadow? have recently joined PSB due to getting bike and L's...they have learner rides often and would be keen to attend one sometime...i just want to get more saddle time up so im not a complete ass hat when attending

mate i will have to double check dates, but i know i am able to shadow RE in August are normally attend the PSB LNR. will give the DPI a call and find out what the exacted date is and let you know

[turboknapp]

Sorry to go off course, did you sell those jeans on PSB?

I wasn't the one selling the jeans, I was trying to get in contact with the bloke selling but he doesn't log on very often

[Brute]

how many crew on here are legally able to shadow? have recently joined PSB due to getting bike and L's...they have learner rides often and would be keen to attend one sometime...i just want to get more saddle time up so im not a complete ass hat when attending

Can shadow re and r class.

[HANS YOLO]

Can shadow re and r class.

i usually try and get out on a Sunday. just been back streeting in my area with a friend. reasonably confident on the road and handling the bike but have had limited exposure to traffic on the bike and road craft will need work with that surely. when the weather fines up ill get in touch if your keen for slow laps :)

[Brute]

i usually try and get out on a Sunday. just been back streeting in my area with a friend. reasonably confident on the road and handling the bike but have had limited exposure to traffic on the bike and road craft will need work with that surely. when the weather fines up ill get in touch if your keen for slow laps :)

No problem

[Halle Terry]

I'll have to double check as well, but I'm pretty sure I can shadow RE class, I know I've either just become eligible or I'm within a few weeks of being able to do so.