Antilag GT5 One-Make Race Series #1

[MGR]

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Antilag GT5 One-Make Race Series #1
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Starting from Thursday 23rd February our usual GT5 nights will now incorporate a semi-formal race series as well as our usual mix of shuffle, one-make and PP limit racing. Points will be awarded for each race and results will be posted in this thread - including an overall leader board. This initial series will run from 23rd February to 4th April.

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Car of the Week - 5th April
Dodge Viper SRT10 ACR '08 / 574PP / Sports Hard Tyres

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Game room opens at ~8:30pm with first qualifying session starting just after 9:00pm.
Connection troubleshooting : PS3 Static IP / DMZ setup CLICK HERE (http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1718144).

Race Schedule
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Race Format
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Points System
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General Information
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Round Results
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[Brockas]

Oh my god, awesome!

Count me in for sure.


Now that we're keeping track, the rage when VY punts us all off in the first corner will be immense.

Ps. Did they fix that timing glitch for these races?

[Tre-Cool]

I see what you did there...

First couple of events should be free of me anyway as i'm working in melbourne till mid march. so no gt5 racing for me :-(

[SimonR32]

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[ALEX.]

Sounds fantastic. Good idea MGR.


In all seriousness, VY I know you can drive a car well when you want to, but if you fuck things up for us with some of your more common antics I’ll make sure you get banned for the next 3 months!
I know it’s all for a bit of fun but you can punt us for in the rest of the races; I don’t think it’s too much to ask for three clean ones per week.


Kindest regards,
Your Biggest Fan

[Jazza]

Sweet, I don't know if I'll remember or be able to make each race every week but it's a great idea bro!

[MGR]

Ps. Did they fix that timing glitch for these races?

For the most part it seems good since the 2.04 update.

I started a thread (http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=237539) late last year on GT Planet regarding the bug. After a heap of additional testing the bug was posted on the main news page (http://www.gtplanet.net/complex-gt5-bug-causes-problems-for-online-racers/) two weeks later. I think this generated enough noise to draw attention to the problem.

Another few weeks later patch 2.04 was released (http://www.gtplanet.net/gran-turismo-5-update-2-04-fixes-many-issues-available-now/) and the first item listed in the official notes was:

"Improved the performance of online races to provide a better racing experience. However, please note that using voice chat with 12 or more players can reduce screen refresh intervals."

Testing has since shown races with full grids of 16 cars being able to run without the bug present (albeit with voice chat disabled). Not 100% sure if voice chat and 12+ cars still causes the timing bug or just hurts the framerate. But I believe if you think you're being hampered by the bug you can turn off your headset during the race. At least G25/G27 wheel users don't seem to be affected any more.


I don’t think it’s too much to ask for three clean ones per week.

Yep. Let's keep these races as clean and fair as possible. We still have the rest of the evening set aside for our more robust flavour of racing.


Sweet, I don't know if I'll remember or be able to make each race every week but it's a great idea bro!

Yep, that'll be the case for a few of us. Which is one of the reason's why you drop your two worst point scoring rounds.

[millzy_88]

Dropping the two worst rounds is great. Being FIFO is no longer such a problem.

[TargaHatch]

On this like a fat kid on a cupcake. Cannot wait!

[DJ84WA]

Looking forward to this! =D

[TJ]

yup - I am in!

[GTO Assassin]

Sorry to nooB up people, but joining in this do I need to buy a car before I join or do I do everything when I join the room?

Scotty

[DJ84WA]

Yeah mate...head to the new car dealership...purchase the car MGR has specified. Give it a shiny new coat of paint and some balla wheels(optional)...and enter his lounge around 830pm.
Dont oil change it though as that puts you over ther PP limit as i found out last time with the Alfa races.

[GTO Assassin]

Nice. Appreciate the heads up.

Scotty

[ALEX.]

Question: what happens if Mr X does genuinely (read: purposefully) cut the track - for example the top of Eau Rouge on Spa if you go in too fast knowing you can't turn within that white line at the top and you just go through it. Any sort of penalty? I mean, can someone 'protest' against someone else's driving and you will investigate after via the replay?
And if there is an accidental cut/advantage, the driver should rectify that or risk protest and penalty from others.

Sounds like I'm taking this too seriously but we are going to be doing this for about 2 months... Just want to get it right from the get go.

[TJ]

system updates needed btw

[millzy_88]

Quick question: Can you modify suspension/diff etc as that doesn't affect PP or is it strictly stock standard.

[1JZNOSHIT]

Target SJ32WA. He is a cock head.

[millzy_88]

Decided to give up early on, was having connection issues every time we changed track so thought I'd stop holding everyone up. I'm starting to think my ps3 is knackered now as every time I connect to psn gt5 gets really slow. Disconnect and all is good again. Weird.

[DJ84WA]

Just re-logged in, comes up with a notice saying the server is down for maintenence. :/

[GTO Assassin]

Server is down. Did you guys get much racing in?

Paul - cqn you please accept my friend request?

Scotty

[MGR]

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[Brockas]

Bloody brake issue cost me 3 points tonight!

Lots of fun though, I really thought that was some of the best racing we have had in a long time. Nobody was really punting anyone and everyone was being cautious.

Looking forward to next week!

[SimonR32]

I saved some replays... MGR, how do you edit and upload?

[Sciflyer]

That first race sucked balls for me, first corner i noticed the framerate drop, got spun around and from that point the car was useless, could not even keep up

I dont think the bug has been fixed :(

Other than that was plenty of good battles, competition is so tight you cant afford to make even a small mistake!

[SimonR32]

I got a almighty smack up the ass into turn one in the first race :(

Then took a few laps and had caught up to like 4 people only to make a slight mistake to drop back a few seconds

RAGE!

[millzy_88]

First corner probably wasn't anyone being a knob. More likely me and brockas coming together as I couldn't see him which would have made everything spaz out.

[TJ]

Rusty as hell - havnt played in 2 months.

Still, had some fun

[Brockas]

First corner probably wasn't anyone being a knob. More likely me and brockas coming together as I couldn't see him which would have made everything spaz out.
Yup, I couldn't see you in any races last night.

[ALEX.]

wasn't anyone being a knob. More likely me and brockas coming together You said it!


Rusty as hell - havnt played in 2 months.
Same. I kicked myself when I hit the wall on the Ring and dropped way back. I was distracted by Brockas coming up mega fast behind me (I was stuck behind Bogan Dave). Note to self: look in the rear view mirror less! Oh and yeah, Brockas I wondered why your brake lights came on down the straight of Tsakuba! No mercy: points are points and I'll take em if you're giving them! haha

I'm looking forward to next week now: everyone's driving well because there's actually something to drive for!

[Brockas]

Oh and yeah, Brockas I wondered why your brake lights came on down the straight of Tsakuba! No mercy: points are points and I'll take em if you're giving them! haha
LOL man, you should have seen my face when that happened. So much rage! I was never going to catch MGR, but was hoping to be first of the mortals!

[MGR]

I saved some replays... MGR, how do you edit and upload?

You need a video capture device to record the footage to your PC and edit from there. I have a Hauppauge PVR (http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data_hdpvr.html) which I've used to convert all my old analogue based video tape stuff to digital. Also happens to capture PS3 footage too.


That first race sucked balls for me, first corner i noticed the framerate drop, got spun around and from that point the car was useless, could not even keep up

I dont think the bug has been fixed :(

Can you send me a copy of your replay data?

I'll send you a PM.

[Sciflyer]

didnt save the replay unfortunately but if it happens again i will

BTW, did you have the voice chat set to low to save bandwidth? I had trouble hearing some people, very muffled. Unless it was an issue at my end

[TJ]

Should also be a group b title for controller users :P

[Brockas]

Think the issue may have been your end Phil. I could hear everyone perfectly expect you.

[03stiwrx]

i was so shit.... haven't played in months competitively. and i missed the first race, i clicked go to track within time and it just wouldn't let me in.
oh well. still keen on next week.
I LIKE the idea of a series. good fun, fulfils my competitive streak even if i am dead last :)

[DJ84WA]

I could only see about 5 others on track in that first race, so if i was a cause of an off. I apologize.
Cant wait for next week. :)

[MGR]

didnt save the replay unfortunately but if it happens again i will

BTW, did you have the voice chat set to low to save bandwidth? I had trouble hearing some people, very muffled. Unless it was an issue at my end

Haven't changed the lobby settings so I don't think that was the cause. There was some maintenance performed on the GT5 servers last night that seem to have improved online related services. I guess we'll see by how much next week.

BTW, sorry for the massive punt into turn one at Fuji late in the GT500 race. Not even close to pulling up in time.


Should also be a group b title for controller users :P

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:P

[Sciflyer]

lol

good call though

No worries about the punt, you probably owed me one anyway :)

[MGR]

Awesome track.

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[SimonR32]

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[TJ]

LOL what does that prove?

That twice I could have easily punted you off the road but didnt? All I had to was come off the brake either of those times.

Blocking ~?~ getting sideways out of a corner ... yeah nah. Wasnt aware I just had to give you a spot either.

As for the apparent punt, I dare say there was a tiny bit of lag involved because I one minute I was stable mid corner next I was running off the road.

[Tre-Cool]

lol, my moves are not as subtle as that. atleast with me you know i take you out on purpose. haha

[TJ]

I had no intention of taking him out?

Like I said if I wanted to, all I had to do was come off the brake a little.

[1JZNOSHIT]

i look forward to joining the shenanigans on Thursday :)

[SimonR32]

LOL what does that prove?

That twice I could have easily punted you off the road but didnt? All I had to was come off the brake either of those times.

Blocking ~?~ getting sideways out of a corner ... yeah nah. Wasnt aware I just had to give you a spot either.

As for the apparent punt, I dare say there was a tiny bit of lag involved because I one minute I was stable mid corner next I was running off the road.

The only reason you didn't make contact is because I saw you coming and turned in early to avoid getting shunted.

People generally don't make contact to try and hold a position, kind of like when you kamikazied down into turn one to overtake me and I stopped turning in to avoid contact with you.

[TJ]

Absolute load of bullshit Simon.

[ALEX.]

Our very own Lewis and Felipe.

After reviewing the footage, I think you're getting a bit too worked up Simon. TJ had a few moments, as you do with a controller, bit for the most part they were just things that happen when you race. He certainly wasn't punting people off and making outrageous blocks.

On a scale of 1 to VY, TJ was about a 2. Play on I say.

[S_E]

Yeh looked pretty fair to me. I often hang it out like that (slowing my self down..)with the sports tyres on exit, and that's with a wheel...

Race one I didn't get a lap of practice, and never driven the car before. Got killed at the first corner with a crash that I think was caused by someone's lag, speed was ok but only barely catching the main group.

Race two running ok, but dropped the left rear on the grass on the entry of the 2nd right hander, on the 2nd lap, cue big spin.. herp derp

Race three I was happy with other than a dumb spin from the lead, car was awesome to drive on the Nordschleife

Really good clean racing

[Sciflyer]

yeah fair call, tj punted me in teh nurb. race but apologised and pulled over to let me retake the spot right away. Theres always going to be contact but if you dont lose a spot or any significant time then play-on i reckon

MGR that cap is great quality, Poly really nailed the movement of the cars, the little drifts and attitude of them, nice :)

If you havnt already check out the Nascar location in the Car Photo bit of GT5... they mustve spent and ridiculous amount of time modelling the pitcrew, really well done. Now if only they had the same attention to detail in teh netcode and online play....

[SimonR32]

Our very own Lewis and Felipe.

After reviewing the footage, I think you're getting a bit too worked up Simon. TJ had a few moments, as you do with a controller, bit for the most part they were just things that happen when you race. He certainly wasn't punting people off and making outrageous blocks.

On a scale of 1 to VY, TJ was about a 2. Play on I say.


I'm not worked up... Was more the fact TJ had a shot at me for hitting him off the track when I didn't and then when I said he should maybe stop nearly running into my ass every corner he said I was full of shit!

The video was a little of trolling to get him worked up :)

[MGR]

MGR that cap is great quality, Poly really nailed the movement of the cars, the little drifts and attitude of them, nice :)

Yep. And the replays look a lot more realistic when the default tyres are used.

On a side note can I suggest that everybody run a few practice laps before racing on Thursday night? You don't need to grind out hundreds of laps but at least run a single race distance session on each track. Not only will your qualifying times be much better but the quality of racing will improve - as your lines will be more predictable and you'll be less likely to miss braking points and bugger up somebody else's race.

Do the practice online in your own lounge as the physics are slightly different to offline mode. Should take less than 30mins of your time.

[GTO Assassin]

Just running a few laps in the Lotus. It sounds silly with a bov. lol

How many players are using remotes v steering wheel setups?

Scotty

[ALEX.]

The Lotus is a touchy car on those Sports tyres. I can see quite a few spins by people under pressure!
DO make sure you have a bit of practice before you compete at 9pm!

[SimonR32]

The Lotus is a touchy car on those Sports tyres. I can see quite a few spins by people under pressure!
DO make sure you have a bit of practice before you compete at 9pm!

Yeah had a crack on Tuesday night, if people are not looping it a bit I will be surprised!

[Brockas]

I found it was only touchy if you were hard on the throttle.

If you don't over drive it, it's actually quite a quick car!

[DJ84WA]

Im using a plain dual shock controller.
Looking forward to this evening.
Hopefully there are no connection issues and i can see everyone on track this time. :)

[1JZNOSHIT]

im going to try and get on tonight, will be running a plain old boring dual shock controller.

[TJ]

Keen to run marbles off the road again

[yeahlow34]

Absolute load of bullshit Simon.

Incredible.

[1JZNOSHIT]

Keen to run marbles off the road again

when he tries to come back on the track after you run him off, I will punt him off again.

[SimonR32]

Keen to run marbles off the road again

xoxo

[Fusion]

I found it was only touchy if you were hard on the throttle.

If you don't over drive it, it's actually quite a quick car!

This will put me down the order a bit. With the dual shock controller, I have a habit of over driving the cars when grip is minimal. I highly doubt I will retain my second position by the end of tonight.

Looking forward to the EVO in a few weeks time, probably the only time I will place well again, unless a get a wheel soon.

[GTO Assassin]

This is starting to p*ss me off royally. How the hell do I join you guys? lol Brockas wont accept my friend request so can someone else please help out? I looked for Antilag and MGR lounges/rooms to join but failed. I need spoon feeding here people. Any help would be great for next time.

Scotty

[DJ84WA]

You will need to add "MGR" as a friend.
The you click on community.
Find "MGR" and click on the orange dot slightly above his Lounge (the lounge is the thing that looks like a coffee cup)

[Brockas]

Wow. First race, my best lap in qualy and race was a 1:26.6.

That's what GTP_Holland AVERAGED exactly over 5 laps. Get fucked haha

[DJ84WA]

I seem to get onto the track for no more than 30 seconds, then it disconnects.
Just upgraded internet package to avoid this happening also. >=(

[Brockas]

This is starting to p*ss me off royally. How the hell do I join you guys? lol Brockas wont accept my friend request so can someone else please help out? I looked for Antilag and MGR lounges/rooms to join but failed. I need spoon feeding here people. Any help would be great for next time.

Scotty
Shit, sorry man.

I just saw your add then, but the person you need to add for these nights is MGR he's the one who runs them, not me!

[GTO Assassin]

No problem. Just sent off a friend request. Will try again next week.

Scotty

[Brockas]

No problem. Just sent off a friend request. Will try again next week.

Scotty
We're still racing. Come join MGR's room.

[4pot]

As always some good racing tonight......and some not so good. I had a good first race, brain fade towards the end of the 2nd race, and an absolute shocker of a final race :eek:.

[/rant]I think the backmarkers need to use a little sense when someone much faster is catching them. If someone is within .1-.3 sec / lap of your lap time, I agree, its a race. If someone is 3-4 sec / lap faster than you, what is the point of doing the kamikaze retake of the position after he gets past or putting up a massive fight for the position. It's already hard to overtake you cleanly, cos you have your car (unpredictably) sideways in every corner. Also when you do loose it, it is not good manners to jump right back on the racing line at 11 kph.......or am I suffering from a serious case of Hamilton syndrome here?[/ rant over]

Ps. Hamilton Syndrome : I am king of the racetrack. You shall make gaps for me to drive through cos I'm faster than you.

[MGR]

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[Brockas]

[/rant]I think the backmarkers need to use a little sense when someone much faster is catching them. If someone is within .1-.3 sec / lap of your lap time, I agree, its a race. If someone is 3-4 sec / lap faster than you, what is the point of doing the kamikaze retake of the position after he gets past or putting up a massive fight for the position. It's already hard to overtake you cleanly, cos you have your car (unpredictably) sideways in every corner. Also when you do loose it, it is not good manners to jump right back on the racing line at 11 kph.......or am I suffering from a serious case of Hamilton syndrome here?[/ rant over]

Ps. Hamilton Syndrome : I am king of the racetrack. You shall make gaps for me to drive through cos I'm faster than you.
Could not agree more.

I ended up backwards in the last race, and as much as there was contact mid-pack, I think people need to remember to get out of the throttle and minimize the crash if they're going to have one.

By that I mean, if someone hits you and sends you sideways or spins you, don't plant your foot in rage and pretend you're Gary Meyers. All you'll end up doing is losing control again and rocketing into someone else and ruining their race too.

[1JZNOSHIT]

Was it me? let me know if so. I know I don't apply rage throttle when i spin out nor do I jump back on the race line at 11kph. I did allow most of the field to pass me on the last race when I started at the front. I will admit I didnt have the cleanest of lines around the tracks though :)

*ninja edit*

I did give SJ32WA a nice love tap though :)

[SimonR32]

As always some good racing tonight......and some not so good. I had a good first race, brain fade towards the end of the 2nd race, and an absolute shocker of a final race :eek:.

[/rant]I think the backmarkers need to use a little sense when someone much faster is catching them. If someone is within .1-.3 sec / lap of your lap time, I agree, its a race. If someone is 3-4 sec / lap faster than you, what is the point of doing the kamikaze retake of the position after he gets past or putting up a massive fight for the position. It's already hard to overtake you cleanly, cos you have your car (unpredictably) sideways in every corner. Also when you do loose it, it is not good manners to jump right back on the racing line at 11 kph.......or am I suffering from a serious case of Hamilton syndrome here?[/ rant over]

Ps. Hamilton Syndrome : I am king of the racetrack. You shall make gaps for me to drive through cos I'm faster than you.

Says the guy that tank slapped me into my rear 1/4 in the last race to spin me out :)

[SimonR32]

Could not agree more.

I ended up backwards in the last race, and as much as there was contact mid-pack, I think people need to remember to get out of the throttle and minimize the crash if they're going to have one.

By that I mean, if someone hits you and sends you sideways or spins you, don't plant your foot in rage and pretend you're Gary Meyers. All you'll end up doing is losing control again and rocketing into someone else and ruining their race too.

LOL was that aimed at me in the last race? Because I got hit 3 times from behind and was 100% not to blame for you hitting me :)

[Bomber]

LOL was that aimed at me in the last race? Because I got hit 3 times from behind and was 100% not to blame for you hitting me :)
Rubbin' is racin'

[Brockas]

LOL was that aimed at me in the last race? Because I got hit 3 times from behind and was 100% not to blame for you hitting me :)
LOL maybe.

You got hit, definitely agree, but by trying to 'drive' out of the hit, you careered across the racetrack after everyone had 'mostly' escaped being hit by you, and slammed into the wall directly in front of me / a few others.

[4pot]

Unfortunately I didn't save the nascar race, otherwise I'd have proof of Simon intentionally ramming me on the first corner of the first lap.

[SimonR32]

LOL maybe.

You got hit, definitely agree, but by trying to 'drive' out of the hit, you careered across the racetrack after everyone had 'mostly' escaped being hit by you, and slammed into the wall directly in front of me / a few others.

Watch the replay! I actually got hit from behind and pushed into a wall on the left, went flying across the track into another car which straightened me... Then started to drive away only to get hit again by Deluca from the left and then Holland smashed into Deluca from the left who hit me again and pushed me into you.

I'd like to know what you think I could have done? I watched the replay from your view which you see me getting hit, then nothing then flying across in front of you so I can see where you are coming from. But what you didn't see is the other hits I took after I had already driven away from the first big hit

EDIT: PS. There must be some massive connection issues with the game, I didn't see stu on all night and he isn't in any of my replays... I didn't even realise he was there until today when the results were the same position I finished last night without DHolland in the mix haha See below

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[ALEX.]

Unfortunately I didn't save the nascar race, otherwise I'd have proof of Simon intentionally ramming me on the first corner of the first lap.
Yeah that goes without saying.

I can't believe I'm saying this but sorry Simon for that tap on the first or second lap of Deep Forrest in our mini 'championship' which turned you around.
I drove a couple more corners before my conscience (I hate it but it's there) made me stop and wait for you.

[SimonR32]

As always some good racing tonight......and some not so good. I had a good first race, brain fade towards the end of the 2nd race, and an absolute shocker of a final race :eek:.

[/rant]I think the backmarkers need to use a little sense when someone much faster is catching them. If someone is within .1-.3 sec / lap of your lap time, I agree, its a race. If someone is 3-4 sec / lap faster than you, what is the point of doing the kamikaze retake of the position after he gets past or putting up a massive fight for the position. It's already hard to overtake you cleanly, cos you have your car (unpredictably) sideways in every corner. Also when you do loose it, it is not good manners to jump right back on the racing line at 11 kph.......or am I suffering from a serious case of Hamilton syndrome here?[/ rant over]

Ps. Hamilton Syndrome : I am king of the racetrack. You shall make gaps for me to drive through cos I'm faster than you.

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Unfortunately I didn't save the nascar race, otherwise I'd have proof of Simon intentionally ramming me on the first corner of the first lap.

That did make me almost die with laughter, the hit was even so clean I didn't even see it coming! Obviously you were listening to my taunting... You really need a mic

[SimonR32]

Yeah that goes without saying.

I can't believe I'm saying this but sorry Simon for that tap on the first or second lap of Deep Forrest in our mini 'championship' which turned you around.
I drove a couple more corners before my conscience (I hate it but it's there) made me stop and wait for you.

All good, as soon as you put your brakes on straight after it I took that as an apology... You should have just kept going. No point both us losing half a lap, we usually have some tight clean racing

[GTO Assassin]

I ended up playing SSX Tricky intead. I'm definetly going to be there next week kids.

Scotty

[4pot]

This Simon bloke is very defensive for a guy that's (apparently) done nothing wrong....

Invisible Stu explains a lot. Consider yourself forgiven Simon. We have got to get the connection issues sorted!!! Trial mountain lap 1 turn 4 you squeezed Stu (the invisible) into the wall and brought the both of us to a dead stop - better for all I didn't have my mic on last night after that......:mad:

As for the incident, you were on MY line again. And also, I usually trail brake there in qualifying. Clearly your fault altogether.

[SimonR32]

Aaah ok that explains a lot. Consider yourself forgiven Simon. We have got to get the connection issues sorted!!! Trial mountain lap 1 turn 4 you squeezed Stu (the invisible) into the wall and brought the both of us to a dead stop - better for all I didn't have my mic on last night after that......

As for the incident, you where on MY line again. And also, I usually trail brake there in qualifying. Clearly your fault altogether.

haha you must have been so pissed! I didn't realise I had anything to do with you crashing... I was happy I got a decent line through the corner and good drive on the exit :)

Your line must be fairly wide :P

[Brockas]

It is hard following someone very closely, but I guess that's the same in real racing. At one point I was on Simons bumper and went to brake earlier than I usually would, and still punted him in the back on the Nurburgring GP track.

Also, turn 1 at Laguna is tricky, because IMO the fastest way around it is to trail brake and keep keep washing speed off until just after the apex of the first chicane. When people are getting all their braking done in a straight line, this results in rear-enders...

[MGR]

I didn't see stu on all night and he isn't in any of my replays...

Well that explains your pit manoeuvre on him - lap 1 Deep Forest.

[Brockas]

No, that's just Simon driving normally.

In real life he's managed to crash into me while I was parked.

[Milhouse]

^ LOL

[MGR]

..

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[SimonR32]

Well that explains your pit manoeuvre on him - lap 1 Deep Forest.

Still in the dark about that one? Didn't see on your replay, or are you talking about the Trial Mountain into the wall?

Sorry for ruining the races for you stu, could you see me? :(


No, that's just Simon driving normally.

In real life he's managed to crash into me while I was parked.

You were on MY line!

Plus you pulled out in front of me so the parked is a white lie :)


..

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haha

[MGR]

Still in the dark about that one? Didn't see on your replay, or are you talking about the Trial Mountain into the wall?

Sorry for ruining the races for you stu, could you see me? :(

This one:

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/ojp8Jr1u4Q8?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

I would've been raging so hard if that was me!

[S_E]

Oh yeh I was raging from that at Deep Forest...but I didn't know who did it until I looked at the replay afterwards.

I seemed to have reasonable speed everywhere, but just got caught up in incidents and made silly mistakes...like Trial mountain when Brockas and Sj were still stopped after their crash on the first lap, went right hoping the gap would be there was Brockas was reversing to the left..messed that up.

[SimonR32]

This one:

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/ojp8Jr1u4Q8?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

I would've been raging so hard if that was me!

Same but different...

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In hindsight I now remember not seeing anyone next to me going into the first corner which I thought was odd at the time but I put it down to them getting a weak start

[ALEX.]

Well there's some real problems here if people can't see other people on the track!

[Sciflyer]

No, that's just Simon driving normally.

In real life he's managed to crash into me while I was parked.

Did you save the replay? :D

[4pot]

At one point I was on Simons bumper and went to brake earlier than I usually would. Then I thought, nah f#$%&it, and still punted him in the back on the Nurburgring GP track...

^fixed

[Brockas]

LOL

I tapped you in the rear at the first corner of Laguna too, GTR. Jumped on the brake and made sure you stayed in front of me after that though.

[Jazza]

Connection dropped out last Thurs, hopefully it doesn't this week!

[Brockas]

I rage quit last Thurs, hopefully I don't this week!
Fixed.

[SimonR32]

Everyone ready to ram some invincible pingpingpingpings this week?

I will be there, but I may be a tad late... Cricket finishes at 9pm and it's a 5 min drive home, plus then I need my pre game poo!

MGR, can you please be a darl and delay the qualifying to 9.15 :)

[4pot]

Everyone ready to ram some invincible pingpingpingpings this week?

I will be there, but I may be a tad late... Cricket finishes at 9pm and it's a 5 min drive home, plus then I need my pre game poo!

MGR, can you please be a darl and delay the qualifying to 9.15 :)

I have the opposite problem - get picked up to the airport @ 21h45, and would at least like to get some points tonight - even better if Simon is not there with all his invisibility tricks :mad: Can we please start @ 21h00 sharp?

[SimonR32]

I have the opposite problem - get picked up to the airport @ 21h45, and would at least like to get some points tonight - even better if Simon is not there with all his invisibility tricks :mad: Can we please start @ 21h00 sharp?

MY line... MY time... Demanding little fucker aren't we haha

It's ok if we start on time, I will probably just miss qualifying and start from the back... It's Monza anyway, I'm sure I can slip to first up the inside :P

[DJ84WA]

M5 this evening. Hopefully get to connect and see everyone this week. :/

[Riggs]

Been a long time since I've played, may get on tonight and try to be clean as I can.

[4pot]

MY line... MY time... Demanding little fucker aren't we haha

It's ok if we start on time, I will probably just miss qualifying and start from the back... It's Monza anyway, I'm sure I can slip to first up the inside :P

I take offence to that. How dare you call me little.

[SimonR32]

I take offence to that. How dare you call me little.

I spoke to your missus :)

[1JZNOSHIT]

back on tonight, will be at the back of the field as usual.

[4pot]

PSN down for maintenance ?????? :-((

[TJ]

cant join the room. fuuuu

[Brockas]

Maybe it's cause the cars are a bit of a handful, but that was absolutely the shittest attempt at clean racing we've had.

I made a mistake in the first race and tapped GTR into a corner, thought he had it then he ended up in the sand so I waited for him and ended up mid pack. Copped nothing but shunts after that.

Second race was fucking shocking IMO. First corner I went from 2nd to 7th or so, and I actually braked pretty damn late. After that it just went downhill from there.

Guess this will be the week I 'skip' in terms of points...

[SimonR32]

Replay is really wierd for the second race Brockas... you know how you said a green car hit you and TJ blamed it on me?

Funny in my replay the green car that hit you had the name above it tjantilag. must be some kind of error!

On a lighter note... SV304 you're a piece of shit and you know why :-)

[TJ]

I can honestly say that on my screen I was never behind Paul to hit him - however, if I did, sorry Paul. Go to final corner of the lap and see what the white car with Brockas above it does to me btw Simon :)

[MGR]

Results from tonight

http://www.mgr.net.au/gt5_uploads/round3.png

[Brockas]

Bugger :(

Qualified 1st and 2nd... ended up 4th in both races.


I can honestly say that on my screen I was never behind Paul to hit him - however, if I did, sorry Paul. Go to final corner of the lap and see what the white car with Brockas above it does to me btw Simon :)
LOL I did laugh at this.

This is what I raged about, and I'm sure there were a few others who would have raged as well. Considering we're supposed to be racing clean, and you braked about a whole second after the flashing brake indicator, that must have been either a pretty epic brain-fade, or you were trying to go from 9th to 3rd in 1 corner:
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You blamed that on Simon.

You then also claimed that I did the same thing to you on the last corner of the race. As you can see from the video below, I didn't see you until I clipped you, then braked and turned the other way to give you the inside line. After that, you spun out... it really wasn't much of a hit:
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Same, same? LOL

[4pot]

Apologies to whoever was in the blue car at the last corner at Monza, lap 1. Was trying to jump out of everyones way and ended up jumping right in front of you. Tried to give it back, not sure if I did or didn't, as my vision was (once again) blurred by red mist. Was fairly sure of either 1st or 2nd before 'the incident'.

I'm considering changing the TeamGTR's official colour scheme (Isotope green + matte purple wheels). Color choice is designed to distract others when I'm behind them :rolleyes:, but only thing it seems to achieve is attracting Brockas when I'm ahead of him - Brockass luv GTRass.

[SimonR32]

Bugger :(

Qualified 1st and 2nd... ended up 4th in both races.


LOL I did laugh at this.

This is what I raged about, and I'm sure there were a few others who would have raged as well. Considering we're supposed to be racing clean, and you braked about a whole second after the flashing brake indicator, that must have been either a pretty epic brain-fade, or you were trying to go from 9th to 3rd in 1 corner:

You blamed that on Simon.

You then also claimed that I did the same thing to you on the last corner of the race. As you can see from the video below, I didn't see you until I clipped you, then braked and turned the other way to give you the inside line. After that, you spun out... it really wasn't much of a hit:

Same, same? LOL

http://nerdjunkies.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Lawyered.jpg

On another note what is the rule with staying inside the white lines? I lost multiple spots in Fuji because people were not sticking to the track...

PS. Check out my drift like a boss after the love tap from stu in the second video Brockas posted

[TJ]

Bugger :(

Qualified 1st and 2nd... ended up 4th in both races.


LOL I did laugh at this.

This is what I raged about, and I'm sure there were a few others who would have raged as well. Considering we're supposed to be racing clean, and you braked about a whole second after the flashing brake indicator, that must have been either a pretty epic brain-fade, or you were trying to go from 9th to 3rd in 1 corner:
<iframe width="853" height="480" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/byCTDABH7cA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

You blamed that on Simon.

You then also claimed that I did the same thing to you on the last corner of the race. As you can see from the video below, I didn't see you until I clipped you, then braked and turned the other way to give you the inside line. After that, you spun out... it really wasn't much of a hit:
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Same, same? LOL

LOL wait a minute. I had written a sorry, then decided to click the videos..

I was braking in a straight line.... you came across into me.... in real life you wouldnt be braking whilst moving right would you? And my tap cost you maybe half a second? And yes, I did fuck up and brake late, I didnt realise how badly it would stop down there.

With yours, even though it was a mild hit, it was enough to upset the car and spin me totally. Remember I dont have the finite control your setup offers. I think everyone can agree that last corner is a pain without being tapped. Now my spin probably cost me 10 seconds?

I know you feel wronged by it.. but you put yourself into the spot to be he hit by me, and it cost you virtually no time. End of the day, neither were intentional, and we got on with it.

[SimonR32]

The hit on the last corner is just a racing incident, Brockas was on the wrong line (because he had been off track) but aiming for the apex. TJ was going too fast and out braking himself into the corner on the inside. The hit was fairly minor and you both recovered pretty quickly.

TJ it looks like you lost control by getting on the gas too hard and early. Same as when you blamed me for hitting you off in the RX8 race the other week

[TargaHatch]

Sick of getting smoked and not being able to trail brake effectively, finally going to use my G25 but need a stand. I cant remember the name of the model you guys recommend that you can use with your existing seat/couch/whatever? I have seen a couple on ebay but hoping I can find one locally, any ideas as I've tried eb's, jb's, austins, ple, harvey norman, dick smith and even game traders but no luck!?

Thanks in advance,

Dave

[SimonR32]

I got mine from cockspank and it's fairly good for what it is... I can't remember what it's called and I won't be home till Monday, he may be able to shed some light though?

[TargaHatch]

No worries, thanks for that. Also how much difference is there between the G25 and G27, enough to consider upgrading, or not worth the expense?

[Sciflyer]

General opinion seems to be if you have a perfectly functioning (ie, non-brockbank-spec) G25 then a G27 is not worth it


[edit] wait i just looked at the pointscores - you should definately stick with the Dualshock, they are teh win!

[SimonR32]

Brockas has a G27 which is failing... He sold his perfectly functioning G25 to me

HE MAD

[TargaHatch]

Hahaha thanks for that. Sciflyer I can guarantee that I will get worse before I get better when I start using the wheel, I think you can safely say this championship is screwed for me. Not stressed though i'm in it for the bulk lol's and bitching that comes after each round, lol

Edit - I'm going to order one of these, anyone heard of them or used one? http://www.xwstands.com/

[Brockas]

Brockass luv GTRass.
It's just so sexy.


No worries, thanks for that. Also how much difference is there between the G25 and G27, enough to consider upgrading, or not worth the expense?
Not worth it. There is basically no difference (IMO).


I got mine from cockspank and it's fairly good for what it is... I can't remember what it's called and I won't be home till Monday, he may be able to shed some light though?
Wheelstand Pro.


I'm going to take the pedals off this week and clean them... doesn't seem to affect me much in quali, as I can make up the time elsewhere, it's just in the races because the straights are almost the only place you can overtake. When you lose 15km/h because you're braking, everyone flies past you.

[Fusion]

My night started disastrous. My bluetooth played up in the first corner of Tsukuba, headset completely failed and controller turned off (think I was second at the time and ended up doing donuts with no control, how the car didn't hit anyone I don't know. After that suffered constant connection issues until about the end of Monza Qualifying.



On a lighter note... SV304 you're a piece of shit and you know why :-)

After that bump in the hairpin of Grand Valley, you deserved everything you got.

[SimonR32]

After that bump in the hairpin of Grand Valley, you deserved everything you got.

What bump?

I think the only time I saw you was when you overtook me when Riggs spun out in front of me (and I t-boned him) and then the last lap when you decided to be a pingpingpingping

[Fusion]

I think it was the second or third lap. Going into the first hairpin 3 cars ended up in the sand trap, I thought brilliant make up a few places but then got punted into the sand trap as well. Only car behind me was you. I'll have to review the footage, otherwise I took out vengeance on you for no apparent reason as I was fuming at that.

[SimonR32]

I think it was the second or third lap. Going into the first hairpin 3 cars ended up in the sand trap, I thought brilliant make up a few places but then got punted into the sand trap as well. Only car behind me was you. I'll have to review the footage, otherwise I took out vengeance on you for no apparent reason as I was fuming at that.

Oooo yes that was me that hit you (didn't know who it was)... Although there is a difference between being punted and a car half out of control sliding across the track in front of you when you are hard on the brakes on the racing line :)

[TheChad]

so i might re-appear in a week or two. will be at the back of the pack as i havent played in ages/dont know the new tracks.

is the tuning any different to how it was? or should i tune them as i was previously (badly)?


i will probably try and catch the tail end of this series, so i can get practice in for the next round.

[TJ]

No tuning allowed.

[S_E]

Apologies to whoever was in the blue car at the last corner at Monza, lap 1. Was trying to jump out of everyones way and ended up jumping right in front of you. Tried to give it back, not sure if I did or didn't, as my vision was (once again) blurred by red mist. Was fairly sure of either 1st or 2nd before 'the incident'.


Yep that was me... I could see it coming, I knew whichever way I went it would be the wrong way! made some retarded errors in the Monza race, then threw away a 5th, maybe 4th at Fuji, finally got it together at Grand Valley, I run a lot better there than the reverse version..

[ALEX.]

Well to break up all the bitching I offer my review of my progress.

Week 1 was ok. A 2nd place @ Tsukuba was the highlight but a fail @ Norshleife when I hit some grass put me way down the order.
Week 2 was a bit average, with a highlight of 2nd place @ Trial Mountain Reverse. Deep Forrest was another fail: I hit Simon and, being the gentleman I am (ha!), waited quite a while for him to catch up – effectively throwing away a good few positions I feel.
This week I was hitting my stride a bit more. I think I qualied 3rd in all of the races (maybe even 2nd on one course) and turned them into a 3rd place result on each race – not too far behind SV who I think I could have caught if not for last lap errors.

So there you go. How interesting was that?
/cool review bro

[MGR]

Just a reminder that due to the Rally Sprint event I won't be hosting a room tonight. The next one-make racing series round is next week.

[Brockas]

Forgot about that! Fak.

[Sciflyer]

anyone feel like hosting tonight? i would but i have a shitty upload

[TargaHatch]

Anyone.....? I also have shitty upload....

[MGR]

No more Rally Sprint events so next three GT5 rounds will be one week apart.

Evo IX this Thursday. Remember to run at least a handful of practice laps on Cote 'd Azur, Eiger Nordwand Short & London.

[SimonR32]

Evo on tight tracks!

I can see emoness ensuing... I have cricket finals this week, if we win I probably won't get there till later on. If we lose I will be on time!

Time to throw the game :)

[4pot]

Looking forward to Thursday. Haven't had a shove up the bum from Brockas for nearly two weeks now... :eek:

[S_E]

2 tracks I love...and Eiger, which I usually don't mind, but seem to run terribly at.

[Miggy]

I should be on today for the first time in a long time, so go easy on me.

[Brockas]

These evo's understeer like WRX's.

[MGR]

Brockas wins Round 4

http://www.mgr.net.au/gt5_uploads/round4.png

[SimonR32]

Brockas wins Round 4

by cheating!

[MGR]

by cheating!

Ha ha!

Yeah, well I guess he did have two less cars to pass on the London race :P

[MGR]

First few laps of Eiger

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[4pot]

Well done to everyone that seemed to get the Evo round a corner. I spent 15 laps thinking 'WHY WON'T THIS THING TURN!!!!????' My driving style is sort of slow in fast out, and that just does not seem to work with certain cars. Best I could manage was slow in, slow in the middle and loose (and slow) out.

The F40's were the highlight of my night. At one stage I think MGR and I had a 300kph tandem drift going through turn 1/2 in the F40's, which scored high marks for entertainment value. Oh, and as far as the F40's are concerned, lifting is for girls....

[SimonR32]

Ha ha!

Yeah, well I guess he did have two less cars to pass on the London race :P

I was spewing when he (and I know it wasn't his fault) punted me off on London. Was sitting easy in 2nd for more than half a race, which would have been my best result ever by far only to have the stupid bug put me sideways and around and into a wall. Massive rage!

The rest of the night I actually think the racing was very clean, considering the tracks. Even SV304 only punted me in the ass once :)

[Brockas]

by cheating!
LOL

Yup, couldn't see you for those races but I could hear you which was weird. As soon as I left the room and joined I could see you again. Redsr I couldn't see no matter what I did.

Those Evo's were interesting. I found that you had to be really smooth on the turn-in, get it to the apex, then only when you're sure you won't have to take your foot off the gas, floor it. Alex set a blinder on Eiger though, couldn't get within 5 tenths of his time no matter what I did.

[Sciflyer]

Yep definately cant be hard on the brakes or gas if you want it to turn in. I was hoping it would still allow AYC adjustments like it does for brake bias because you can dial out a fair bit of understeer with it but no go unfortiunately

Bloody cheater cars anyway

Brockas kudos to you, you were on a mission at London! i was being a bit cautious after choking in one of the earlier races heh

SV i had a look at that Nascar replay, mustve been a lag hit because our cars were a minimum of like 2m apart

Also, Gigi Galli spec...

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/542878/Screenies/Eiger%20Nordwand%20Short%20Track.jpg

[Brockas]

Brockas kudos to you, you were on a mission at London! i was being a bit cautious after choking in one of the earlier races heh
haha cheers mate. I was chasing you for 3 laps as I couldn't see Simon in-between us.

Couldn't believe the ending, 0.07 seconds between us. Nuts!

[SimonR32]

haha cheers mate. I was chasing you for 3 laps as I couldn't see Simon in-between us.

Couldn't believe the ending, 0.07 seconds between us. Nuts!

Funnily enough I was slowly catching him as well, probably would have been really interesting without the lack of invisibleness!!!

Ask SV304 about my slide during the practice before London, EPIC (self rated) haha

[03stiwrx]

LOL

Redsr I couldn't see no matter what I did

I thought I heard a comment like that last night, I don't have a headset, so can't hear clearly what is being said a lot of the time due to background music.
To be honest, I never have any connection problems or anything. The only time there are black screens of erratic cars is when their connection is bad, I've got a pretty good
upload/download speed going on.

I let the Thurs night action go for a while, I seemed to get punted so much I ended up that far behind I couldn't be assed. Some rage was had.

It's definitely a lot cleaner, but I'm not competitive anymore. I actually had to check I was on the right tires!!!
But I'll show up and compete because it's fun.

[S_E]

That was tough, really hard to overtake with those cars/tracks, great fun, but rage inducing! Messed up by leaving traction control on at Monaco, made it understeer even worse, Eiger I was fast but got caught up in too many small incidents. London ran ok but got punished by a couple of small mistakes. Trying to attack and defend on the tight tracks is the hardest, about to go for a spot and then getting overtaken is the worst!

[SimonR32]

Fezza tonight... I have not even made the purchase yet but from memory these this are half decent

[MGR]

Ran a few laps the other night. Has a slight tendency to push under power but turns in really nice. Plus I much prefer driving a car that revs hard.

[Tre-Cool]

Racing still on next week? i'll be back home tomorrow night.

[ALEX.]

With mic problems tonight it meant I couldn't always apologise to anyone I might have hit unfairly – but I think I drove alright considering I hadn't slept in 38 hours.
Madrid was very glitchy for me – even turning my mic off completely didn't fix the issues. Was this an issue at all for other people? It gave me a shocking race.. very hard to drive properly.
Oh and I'm raging that I was disconnected on Suzuka. This was my chance to claw back some points on Brockas and it looks like I'll have to drop the round completely :(

[MGR]

http://www.mgr.net.au/gt5_uploads/round5.png

[MGR]

BoganDave glitch lols

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[TJ]

Was suffering from a cold and simply couldnt put together the mental power to drive those things right.

Good fun regardless.

[redline07]

Should really have used my wheel but was good to have a run after not playing gt5 for 6 months or so.

Had some headset issues so couldn't hear too much either.

Ps. Mark, jferrari27 is me.

[Sciflyer]

lol @ Bogandave... that was some weird shit!

[SimonR32]

First two races were great, 3rd was a disgrace!

Lucky you couldn't hear Jarrod :)

[4pot]

Lucky you couldn't hear Jarrod :) x2

[MGR]

Can everybody ensure their PS3 and ADSL routers are configured correctly for next week?

Guide to setting up PS3/DMZ HERE (http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1718144)


With mic problems tonight it meant I couldn't always apologise to anyone I might have hit unfairly – but I think I drove alright considering I hadn't slept in 38 hours.
Madrid was very glitchy for me – even turning my mic off completely didn't fix the issues. Was this an issue at all for other people? It gave me a shocking race.. very hard to drive properly.
Oh and I'm raging that I was disconnected on Suzuka. This was my chance to claw back some points on Brockas and it looks like I'll have to drop the round completely :(

I worked out that if you had not disconnected and finished 2nd in that race your would've been 3 points ahead of Brockas heading into the final round (after dropping your worst two rounds).

I'm afraid you have no option but to punt him off.

[SimonR32]

I'm afraid you have no option but to punt him off.

I can take one for the team if you like :)

[TJ]

Also willing to crash for cash

[Sciflyer]

Can confirm if you join a server mid-race and the cars are jumping about wildly skidding/smoking continuously YOU NEED TO DISCONNECT and try again - something in the handshaking (connecting) process doesnt happen right and it will not get any better if you try to start a race!

ANd yes this can happen even if you have your PS3 set up and DMZ'ed correctly

[SimonR32]

I get that bunny hopping/smoke a lot if I play on international servers with shocking pings...

GT5 is really fucked online to be honest, they fix one issue and another one pops up even worse :(

[Brockas]

I worked out that if you had not disconnected and finished 2nd in that race your would've been 3 points ahead of Brockas heading into the final round (after dropping your worst two rounds).

I'm afraid you have no option but to punt him off.
Not sure how you worked that out.

If Alex had stayed in the game and come 2nd, he'd have 18 points more and would have counted that round, putting him on 181.

If I had remained 3rd, I'd still have 189 points.

I can take one for the team if you like :)

Also willing to crash for cash
Ban.

[ALEX.]

Well I appreciate your offer of bad sportsmanship TJ and SJ, I truly do. But there's no need to offer your serves to take out Brockas; VY is back this week and is, as we all know too well, the best at what he does.

[MGR]

Not sure how you worked that out.

If Alex had stayed in the game and come 2nd, he'd have 18 points more and would have counted that round, putting him on 181.

If I had remained 3rd, I'd still have 189 points.

Was working under the assumption that you had both already run your two worst rounds. But I still messed up the calculation.

As it stands
- If Alex drops rounds 2 & 5 he has 130 points going into the final round.
- If you drop rounds 1 & 3 you have 150 points going into the final round.

But if Alex hadn't disconnected at Suzuka and held position:
- Alex would drop rounds 1 & 2 leaving a total of 143 points.
- You would actually drop rounds 3 & 5 leaving a total of 148 points.

So you'd still be leading by 5 points.
Either way I guess you're still a punting target. ;)

[MGR]

For the next round you'll need to have paid for the track pack ($6.95 on the PlayStation store). Otherwise you won't be able to compete in the first race on Spa-Francorchamps.

Also, I'm open to suggestions for car/track combo's for the next series.

Would also like to run a small shuffle race championship too. Races would be shorter (3 or 4 laps depending on the track). No qualifying, no boost, reverse grid each race. Sometimes you'll draw the short straw when it comes to car selection so you'll just have to do the best with what you're dealt. Could randomise the track selection too.

[TJ]

Keen for that - that way no one can get in 20 hours of practise beforehand!

[Brockas]

So you'd still be leading by 5 points.
Either way I guess you're still a punting target. ;)
haha all good, I think I'll have to skip the last round anyway as it's a good mates birthday celebrations.


Would also like to run a small shuffle race championship too. Races would be shorter (3 or 4 laps depending on the track). No qualifying, no boost, reverse grid each race. Sometimes you'll draw the short straw when it comes to car selection so you'll just have to do the best with what you're dealt. Could randomise the track selection too.
Keen.


If we don't do that though, I think the following cars would make for some very good races:

Honda NSX
BMW M3
Nissan GTR
Lotus Esprit V8
Toyota 86

[SimonR32]

Slip in a decent FWD somewhere into the lineup :)

Would be fun to run a 3 race same car championship followed by a separate points 3 race shuffle championship straight after

[Sciflyer]

yeah even though there doesnt seem to be as much variety in shuffle cars i wouldnt mind a little competition series

[ALEX.]

Well I've given the ol' Viper a shot and here's my capsule review.

Go in too hard and fast and you'll be in a hole heap of shit; instead, ease it in, ease it out till you can really get on it. Otherwise, skid marks will ensue.
Much like a girl getting it in the pooper.

I think that's pretty clear and concise.

See you at 8:30.

[SimonR32]

Well I've given the ol' Viper a shot and here's my capsule review.

Go in too hard and fast and you'll be in a hole heap of shit; instead, ease it in, ease it out till you can really get on it. Otherwise, skid marks will ensue.
Much like a girl getting it in the pooper.

I think that's pretty clear and concise.

See you at 8:30.

I'm reading between the lines here but your saying if you go in too fast it's hard to control and thus not your fault if you punt Brockas?

[Brockas]

LOL I won't be on tonight anyway, as I'll be at a mates birthday gig.

[ALEX.]

Well I've given the ol' Viper a shot and here's my capsule review.

Go in too hard and fast and you'll be in a hole heap of shit; instead, ease it in, ease it out till you can really get on it. Otherwise, skid marks will ensue.
Much like a girl getting it in the pooper.

I think that's pretty clear and concise.

I'm reading between the lines here but your saying if you go in too fast it's hard to control and thus not your fault if you punt Brockas?
I'm saying I ilke to give it to girls in the pooper! *where's Georgina?*
Oh and I would never descend to any foul play. Keeping things clean is what separates us from the VYs

[Tre-Cool]

ppfftt.

You pingpingpingpings missed me, i know it.

[MGR]

Close battle between Alex and 4pot. Last lap replay;

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[4pot]

Close battle between Alex and 4pot. Last lap replay

Well done to Alex there, he was the faster driver and deserved the second place. I was driving very, very defensively - and the racing was clean in spite of that.

Still kicking myself for giving away a possible win at Indy Road - too much mirror looking = talent failure

[Sciflyer]

Nice battle there :)

[ALEX.]

Well done to Alex there, he was the faster driver and deserved the second place. I was driving very, very defensively - and the racing was clean in spite of that.
Yep, always good fun. As I said, i'd always prefer to be chasing someone down than having to defend, so you did well 4pot.


Still kicking myself for giving away a possible win at Indy Road - too much mirror looking = talent failure
And I know that I too let people get through because of too much mirror checking (usually MGR whenever I out-quali him – which is rare! :o ).
Thanks for capturing the last lap MGR – I forgot to save that replay and it was a good'n.

Well done to Vettel for series win; he was quite dominant. And nice job to Brockas, SV and 4pot for a fairly close top end of the championship – I'm looking forward to doing it all again later in the year, after a Shuffle Series.

[Brockas]

LOL @ Vettel.

Very good series! Loved it.

I'm going to claim 1st of the 'mortals' haha

[SimonR32]

LOL @ Vettel.

Very good series! Loved it.

I'm going to claim 1st of the 'cheaters' haha

Fixed :-)

Ps. Yes im still pissed haha

[MGR]

OK, so for the next batch I want to run two concurrent series:

One-make Series
- Pre-selected car
- 3x heats, no boost
- First race 10 min qualifying, subsequent races grid method TBA
- PP reduction applied to top 3 place getters for the following race

First race all cars will start even. The top three place getters will be given at PP reduction for the second race (amount TBA after testing)
eg
1st : minus 15PP
2nd : minus 10PP
3rd : minus 5PP

Top three place getters of second race will also be given a PP reduction. PP reductions are cumulative. ie If a driver wins the first and second race (using the above example) they will be minus 30PP total starting the third race.

The PP numbers used above are an example only. I'll run some tests to determine a fair PP reduction number. I will also increase the number of points awarded to the first three place getters.

Shuffle Series
- 3x Heats (3 to 5 laps depending on track), no boost
- Random Original Circuit, Random World Circuit, Random City Circuit
- 1 flying lap qualifying for first race, reverse grid for the next two

[SimonR32]

OK, so for the next batch I want to run two concurrent series:

One-make Series
- Pre-selected car
- 3x heats, no boost
- First race 10 min qualifying, subsequent races grid method TBA
- PP reduction applied to top 3 place getters for the following race

First race all cars will start even. The top three place getters will be given at PP reduction for the second race (amount TBA after testing)
eg
1st : minus 15PP
2nd : minus 10PP
3rd : minus 5PP

Top three place getters of second race will also be given a PP reduction. PP reductions are cumulative. ie If a driver wins the first and second race (using the above example) they will be minus 30PP total starting the third race.

The PP numbers used above are an example only. I'll run some tests to determine a fair PP reduction number. I will also increase the number of points awarded to the first three place getters.

Shuffle Series
- 3x Heats (3 to 5 laps depending on track), no boost
- Random Original Circuit, Random World Circuit, Random City Circuit
- 1 flying lap qualifying for first race, reverse grid for the next two

Sounds good, mortals might have half a chance!

HALF

[S_E]

New series' look good.

I lost a position on the last lap of every race last week, worst was trying to get past Alex at the end of Nurburgring, he placed his car well, but I still fancied myself at getting past into 2nd, but got into him a bit much and put him in to a half spin and we both lost out to 4pot, raging hard after that!

[Sciflyer]

Interesting idea with the PP handicap!

Presumably you just "mouse over" people in the lobby to check? Or is there actually a way of enforcing it

[ALEX.]

Great idea.
...and when do you want to start? Next week?

[redline07]

Sounds good, shuffle series should make for some interesting races.

[4pot]

Shuffle Series
- 1 flying lap qualifying for first race, reverse grid for the next two

Under the impressions you can't quali for a shuffle race, always reverse grid - my impressions have been proven wrong before, though

As for the series, I'm in if I'm here & not travelling

[4pot]

oh, and some thoughts on some of the cars to possibly include in the chmpship :

- recommended F40's with comfort hard's - slow & challenging, but a lot of fun
- Recommended Elise 111R with comfort softs
- '96 Elise with standard tyres
- recommended RX7 with sports hard or comfort soft
- GT500, no tuning
- GranTurismo Ford GT Spec II test car - tyres unlimited, and double/triple laps for a bit of an endurance race to bring tyre mgt into it a bit (downside is c3,600,000 :eek:)
- Lotus Evora, std tyres
- '08 Honda Civic Type R, std tyres for some FF fun
- '97 Nissan Skyline R33 GT-R, std tyres :)

[ED40]

keen as to join the series!

[MGR]

Interesting idea with the PP handicap!

Presumably you just "mouse over" people in the lobby to check? Or is there actually a way of enforcing it

No way to enforce it. But I'll be keeping track of the individual PP limits and players will be asked to detune their car after the race - before we switch to the new track.


Under the impressions you can't quali for a shuffle race, always reverse grid - my impressions have been proven wrong before, though

I think you're right. In that case we'll just run reverse grid every race. The first race will be immediately after the third race of the one-make series - so it'll be a reverse grid start of that race.


Great idea.
...and when do you want to start? Next week?

Yep, will start the new series next week (19th April) but I'll be on tomorrow for a few hours racing. Will run a mixture one-make, shuffle and PP races but won't be tracking points. I also need to test a couple of scenarios regarding grid positions.

[4pot]

No way to enforce it. But I'll be keeping track of the individual PP limits and players will be asked to detune their car after the race - before we switch to the new track.

Can work if you lower the pp limit and the most penalised guys get on track and have to stay on track. Raise pp limit progressively and everyone else joins as per their level of penalisation. With no tuning there is no fiddling required away from the track in any case.

[SimonR32]

Can work if you lower the pp limit and the most penalised guys get on track and have to stay on track. Raise pp limit progressively and everyone else joins as per their level of penalisation. With no tuning there is no fiddling required away from the track in any case.

He is going to be the one that always needs to be on track in that case (so doesn't really work)

I'm fairly sure we could work on a honesty system, we are not exactly playing for sheep stations!

In saying that, I would keep and eye on Brockas... He will cheat :)

[Brockas]

In saying that, I would keep and eye on Brockas... He will cheat :)
LOL I won't cheat. I'm not the one who continually makes excuses for why they fail at all things automotive ;)

[4pot]

He is going to be the one that always needs to be on track in that case (so doesn't really work)
Private lobby, so anyone in the lobby with an IQ in three figures can do it. Don't worry Simon, we'll let you have a go at doing it in any case.

[SimonR32]

LOL I won't cheat. I'm not the one who continually makes excuses for why they fail at all things automotive ;)

You're just hating still because of this

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[Brockas]

LOL your only achievement, how did I know you were going to pull that out of the bag! hahaha

[DJ84WA]

Anything on tonight?

[MGR]

Anything on tonight?

Yep, will be online at usual 8:30 start. Normal mixed bag of racing this evening.

Nascars in the dark at Nurburgring...

[Tre-Cool]

I wont be on as im in melbourne again. Will hopefully be around for next weeks new season.

[millzy_88]

Recently bought a wheel setup and have been trying to get the hang of it before jumping online again but I'm having one major issue.

As soon as the car starts to slide it whips around 180 and it's almost impossible to catch, plus I'm very slow to recover from it. Anyone got any hints for catching slides as I am am getting tired of failing.

[Joe]

What cars?

I have my G27 on full simulation mode and its fine.. the secret is to keep TC on level 1 or put your ASM on, just until you get the hang of the wheel, and slowly start removing the driving aids as you get better.

[4pot]

Recently bought a wheel setup and have been trying to get the hang of it before jumping online again but I'm having one major issue.

As soon as the car starts to slide it whips around 180 and it's almost impossible to catch, plus I'm very slow to recover from it. Anyone got any hints for catching slides as I am am getting tired of failing.

You've gotta keep in mind that the wheel has an upside and downside. Up : Finite steering/throttle/brake control, downside : you can only twirl it so fast. Honestly I couldn't believe how easy slides were to catch when I tried the controller again. IMO the trick with the wheel is throttle/brake modulation, and using that in conjunction with the finite wheel control i.e. don't get into big slides in the first place :p - it is the fastest way round.

If you do want to drift, once again throttle modulation, and not just planting it like the controller. I really struggle drifting in most cars with the wheel, but that may just be down to a lack of talent.

You might also try putting force feedback down to 4, that makes a bit of a difference - feel strange at first, but stick with it a while

[Brockas]

As soon as the car starts to slide it whips around 180 and it's almost impossible to catch, plus I'm very slow to recover from it. Anyone got any hints for catching slides as I am am getting tired of failing.
IMO, the second it starts to slide, get off the gas, and make a very quick correction. Don't over-correct, because it'll fling you off the other way.

Literally, less than 0.1 seconds of correction is all that's required most of the time to catch a slide. Quick flick of opposite lock to get the car back onto it's line of 'traction' and then go back to modulating the throttle again.

[SimonR32]

Yeah moving from a controller to a wheel is a bitch to catch slides... Give it time and you will get better at it but it's not ever going to be as easy as the controller. Reversing is the other crap thing as well.

Worth noting that I was struggling hard until I changed the setting to full simulation (I think that's the one, I'll try and check). It made a huge difference as it doesn't fight you when you try and countersteer so you can flick the wheel a bit better

[SimonR32]

Fixed my issue with not being able to control oversteer with the wheel... I had it set to amateur and not Simulation, much better now :)

Yeah there is my post from after I was struggling! Go to settings and switch to simulation :)

[millzy_88]

Cheers for the tips. Will try all of the above and keep on practicing. It's like playing the game for the first time again switching to the wheel lol.

[4pot]

Did a bit of a spring clean today & one of the things that popped out was an old Logitech FFB steering wheel with two pedals. Tested it quickly on gt5 and works ok, although didn't get FFB working. Accelerator pot is dodgy. FREE to a good home, otherwise it goes to the tip...

[DJ84WA]

Keen to see the footage of the ten pin bowling style glitching from me in Deep Forest at the first corner.
I actually exited the race and was still watching my car on track. Damn issues. :(

[MGR]

Series 2 will start this Thursday 19th April. I'll have the new thread done in the next day or two but for those that want to practise now the first round will be:

Honda CIVIC TYPE R ’08 (414pp limit)
- Road Course - Daytona (4 laps)
- Grand Valley East Section (6 laps)
- Cape Ring Inside (6 laps)

[ED40]

Sorry i'm a bit slow but what do you mean by 414pp limit?

[Fusion]

PP refers to Performance Points. So limited to 414 performance points. What effects PP is HP, weight and aerodynamics. So any mods that affect those 3 aspects will increase PP. Also if you have a car that has already done a few races, the engine will have run in a bit and increased HP and the PP of the car. So you would have to adjust it via the tuning screen (just reduce HP to suit).

I'm guessing tuning of the car will be prohibited MGR?

[ED40]

thanks for that!