Nissan to join V8 Supercars competition in 2013!

[Sfidz]

NISSAN is set to be a shock inclusion on the V8 Supercars grid next year with powerhouse Japanese manufacturer to announce tomorrow it will be taking the fight to Holden and Ford.

In an historic inclusion which V8 Supercars claim will bulletproof the future of the sport, Nissan have agreed to re-join the series in 2013 in a move which will inject hundreds of thousand of dollars into the sport and place a wedge between the iconic battle between Holden and Ford.

The bombshell entry will also give several lowly placed teams the ammunition to take on the likes of Holden backed team Vodafone, with the manufacturer to pull out the cheque book in a bid to upset their manufacturing rivals.

Made possible by the Car of the Future program headed by Holden legend Mark Skaife, the coup has been three years in the making.

News Limited also understands the announcement, to be made by V8 Supercars and Nissan tomorrow at Crown Casino in Melbourne, will be the first of many.

Several other manufacturers, including Chrysler, have been in talks with the fast growing series and are also expected to join the Aussie bred fight.

Both Holden and Ford have welcomed the new competition with Nissan’s inclusion likely to help address the uneven split which this year saw 17 Commodores taken on 11 Falcons.

Holden backed driver Jamie Whincup won the series.

Nissan were last in the series in 1992, with the manufacturer ironically supporting Skaife, the man who helped court them back after a 20 year absence.

Car of the Future has helped make Nissan’s inclusion possible with a host of control parts to be used next year.


Exciting stuff, what are your thoughts?

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/motor/nissan-to-join-v8-supercars-competition-in-2013/story-e6frey5r-1226266055787

[fourseven]

Just read. Like!

[n1ghth4wk]

Fuck yeah! Any word on vehicle choice yet? 35?

[fourseven]

Altima or Maxima.

[tinto]

Thank you COTF & Skaife. May be enough for me to start watching the V8s again.
Any thought as to what Nissan will be using as their skin?
Needs to be a comparable size to falcadore, right?

Edit - question already asked while I was typing :)

[protecon]

This is fucking awesome news! Bring back the Godzilla!

[Kickit]

LIKE! be good to get the old 32 out there again.. see if she still has it haha

[180SXTCY]

i can see repeats already of te 32 gtr days.. winning.

[mehow2g]

Wouldnt they just use a shell and put all v8 supercar spec parts in it?

Nissan could be just using this just for advertising purposes?

[wormbo2]

Just a thought..... Pretty sure 'V8 supercars' would basically imply that a V8 is needed to be eligible for racing in the series......
problem GTR 6cyl!?

[lysdexia]

it'll be running under the COTF rules guys, so control chassis/box/diff with a nissan body draped over it, and a nissan V8

[SimonR32]

it'll be running under the COTF rules guys, so control chassis/box/diff with a nissan body draped over it, and a nissan V8

So NASCAR?

[tinto]

This is a decent summary of what COTF is about:
http://www.v8supercars.com.au/technical/carofthefuture/thenewgenerationofv8supercars/tabid/1418/default.aspx
"control chassis" "category engine"

Similar concept to DTM with their rwd, 4.0 v8s in audis, Mercs, opels etc.

[-Luke-]

YES! Can't wait too see the car.



There's going too be some pissed orf bogans. FUK'N rice burners etc etc

[gazza750]

Pity it looks like the SOOKY (Kelly) brothers will be running the Nissans though

[mehow2g]

Same car though

[stormtrooper]

Has to be a V8. Should smash one in the current GTR body and fang it around the Mountain ;)

[Kaido]

FYI nissan already use a v8 in the Super GT

pre 2010 they used VH45DE 4.5 litre engine
post 2010 they used 3.4 litre engine (VRH34A) (still v8)

and in the FIA GT they run VK56DE

[Autopilot]

So Nissan wins and everyone's a pack of arseholes. Can't wait.

[Dearlove]

it'll have the same output engine, in the same tube chassis that the v8's already use, it has nothing to do with gtr, but still great to see though!!

would be awesome to see some real 'group A' reg race with current cars, even the dtm cars are nothing like there road going counterparts

[1JZNOSHIT]

so it wont be any more exciting, apart from the fact there will be something else to look at other than a Falcon or a Commodore.

Same shit, different shape.

[Lonewolf]

yep, boring.

[TJ]

V8 Supercar rules state it must be 4 door RWD - it will not be a GTR.

[1JZNOSHIT]

Maximas are FWD arent they? What 4dr RWD sedan do they sell in Australia? Or can it be an obscure Jap model that they can base the platform on?

[TJ]

It will need to be relevant, so Maxima is that likely one.

[1JZNOSHIT]

unless the Nissan Altima comes to Oz. That is RWD I think.

[fourseven]

The Kelly team are expected to use the Altima.

[South]

Fuck me, does no one know about the COTF?

Fully controlled series, basically capped costs, identical cars with panel work. All this will do is expose the series even greater to the international market... Ricers will not watch it anymore than they do now.

[1JZNOSHIT]

The Kelly team are expected to use the Altima.

Nice, much better looking car than the Maxima.


Fuck me, does no one know about the COTF?

Fully controlled series, basically capped costs, identical cars with panel work. All this will do is expose the series even greater to the international market... Ricers will not watch it anymore than they do now.

And the ricer hype & hope has been squashed :)

[TJ]

Yup - I amazed at how little knowledge there is about it.

I dont care what anyone says - the racing is GOOD, the series is GOOD.

Narrow minded bullshit abounds.

[1JZNOSHIT]

it is good, but it will not change the racing by having a Nissan badge in there. Its a great way to market the series internationally etc though.

[TJ]

Why does a series that has 3/4 of the field spread by 1 odd seconds need improving?

Sure 888 has won a lot recently, but every series always has a yard stick

[crabman]

They need to bring in some sort of volumetric efficiency ruling with unlimitied tuning capabilities of motors with predetermined componants, fuel system, ingnition etc. Would surely be able to open up the door to turboed fours, sixes, v8s both na and boosted.

Im sure everyone would loved to see the v8 dropped from v8 supercars in the name of a fucking awesome race series.

[South]

So Porsche Cup should allow Ferrari's, and the Ferrari Challenge should allow 4WDs to race in it and the list goes on and on for the different series?

Get a grip!

[Tocchi]

everybody getting upset over FvsH ... V8SC is a business, not a racing series, and its done very well.
the introduction will create controversy and discussion in the brand name, thus more publicity, thus more $$$
bringing in more people who prefer imports > aussie, thus more $ for V8SC.

well played by V8SC, ill still watch it, its good to watch.

[suburban]

will be interesting to see how the 300c goes. Not that much of an aerodynamic body that one

i think its a good thing for the sport.

[Denver]

I haven't delved into the COTF rules, but unless they allow quad cam 8's, then the nissan will run a chev or a ford motor..

The 35 gt-r's in the eur GTo series run rwd and v8's as it is..

The v8sc series is a joke, its 20+ year old technology for the most part of it, and the car of the future crap is just playing catch up to the 90's when everyone else in the world except yank and aussie cars had IRS..

As for the racing, how is it exciting? the field is spread by 1 second, big deal, its procession racing, no one passes except in the pits, or if someone fucks it into a corner, people think those who want the days of group A back have rose tinted glases, i call bullshit, it was exciting racing, different tracks suited different cars and there was lots of actual racing.

All the v8sc series did was appeal to the bogan mindset, but seeing as the majority of its market now actually earns a decent quid, and buys stuff likie mercs or bimmers, they've been losing punter numbers at races for the last few years, getting other manufacturers into the series is just trying to draw some of the old customers back, but they've woken up to just how far from the car they look like they really are, compared to the pre v8sc days when what you saw race on sunday, you could buy pretty much the same thing monday..

at least with every other racing class out there, they don't try and hide under the illusion you can go and buy what your watching on the track at your local falcadore dealer..

The inclusion of nissan still won't get me watching anything but bathurst or the WA round as an excuse to get drunk at the track, unless they actually want to start putting real modern tech into the cars its still mainly 20+ year old crap we've been watching go round and round since the bogans had a cry at a car with less than half the calpacity and a turbo beat the big truck motored car

[Brockas]

Fuck me, does no one know about the COTF?

Fully controlled series, basically capped costs, identical cars with panel work. All this will do is expose the series even greater to the international market... Ricers will not watch it anymore than they do now.
Not sure if I classify as a ricer, but I'll be supporting a Nissan team this year, and will probably be more passionate about it than before when I really didn't care what manufacturer won.

[Ryan1080]

Maxima? With a V8? Where can I buy one?

I realise Falcodores in the shop are not the Falcodores on the track, but at least there are 8 cylinders under the bonnet so you can feel/imagine like perhaps you're driving one. "Win race on Sunday, sell cars on Monday" etc... how will this help Nissan marketing wise? Unless they're planning on selling something with a V8 in the very near future?

[mehow2g]

Maxima? With a V8? Where can I buy one?

I realise Falcodores in the shop are not the Falcodores on the track, but at least there are 8 cylinders under the bonnet so you can feel/imagine like perhaps you're driving one. "Win race on Sunday, sell cars on Monday" etc... how will this help Nissan marketing wise? Unless they're planning on selling something with a V8 in the very near future?

Nothing to do with bringing out a future model V8 Nissan.. Its massive exposure its how you sell things..

You will most likely never seen a Maxima V8 out of a shop.

[South]

Not sure if I classify as a ricer, but I'll be supporting a Nissan team this year, and will probably be more passionate about it than before when I really didn't care what manufacturer won.

You mean next year :) Just don't support the Kelly's

[joshg123]

My personal opinion, they need room to innovate. COTF is a great idea in concept but it will kill the series for someone who appreciated it on a technical side like i did. Have your regulations on fuel allowed..... "run whatever the fuck engine you want, but youve got this 100L to last 30laps...no more... no less" and get some technical innovation back into the sport. I can fully appreciate the work that goes into building a chassis, but live rear ends, pushrod v8's, control this, control that..... thats the shit you see in lower formulas aimed at budget motorsport, not the 'premier tier' of motorsport in Australia.

In saying that, i also realise Australian motorsport doesnt have the cash to throw at 'technical innovation' as i put it.

I say again *tj*, My opinion only :P

[mehow2g]

My personal opinion, they need room to innovate. COTF is a great idea in concept but it will kill the series for someone who appreciated it on a technical side like i did. Have your regulations on fuel allowed..... "run whatever the fuck engine you want, but youve got this 100L to last 30laps...no more... no less" and get some technical innovation back into the sport. I can fully appreciate the work that goes into building a chassis, but live rear ends, pushrod v8's, control this, control that..... thats the shit you see in lower formulas aimed at budget motorsport, not the 'premier tier' of motorsport in Australia.

In saying that, i also realise Australian motorsport doesnt have the cash to throw at 'technical innovation' as i put it.

I say again *tj*, My opinion only :P

Well the rules are only implemented for it to be a tighter race which means more action which is why the GTR got banned cos it won every race..
V8SC is as commercial as it gets and it will never change.

Which is why I enjoy WTAC alot more.

[Lonewolf]

denver nailed it.
one of the reasons I like F1 is the fact that certain teams have better aero, others have more power etc.
Same reason i liked the production car stuff, seeing an evo quick in the corners and at exit, with the big GTS reeling it in down the straight etc.

people racing the exact same car might interest some people, but not my cup of tea.

[Buckets]

The V8's is a great series for the average punter who wants to watch some cars go round a circuit. But I'll be honest and say it's loosing it's appeal to me, I loved it in the 90's and early 00's but it's got more and more removed from the products that it's promoting. I love GT racing because you can see a car win on Sunday and go buy something (almost) similar from the local dealer on Monday, the racing improves the road car. If V8SC are going down the NASCAR / DTM path I'd much rather they chose the DTM style than the yesteryear spec they currently have. I have no doubt it's fast and will lead to close racing but the anyone who thinks this is in anyway "cheap" is insane. The old style V8SC's were 400-500k fair enough 2 car teams might have 3 cars assembled and enough parts for 1-2 more cars on hand so it's a few million bucks of car's they need + running costs to compete. COTF will lower the car costs a bit but over all it won't be a huge saving as the majority of the costs would be running the team to run the cars, thats only going to get more expensive.

Instead of trying to limit the category why not keep the costs at 400k and make proper high tech racers, proper aero, proper high tech engines, drivelines, suspensions. Build a V8SC that can do an sub 2min's race pace laps around Bathurst. It can't be that hard or that much more expensive really.

Or like I originally said, go back to Genesis; race something you can find in a showroom.

[GTO Assassin]

Should be interesting. Maybe not for the first few years as far as competitiveness goes, but should be fun.

Scotty

[DISTRBD]

So who actually follows the current series and has gone to a V8SC round ??

[pgc]

http://www.v8supercars.com.au/championship/newsarticle/official-nissan-to-join-v8-supercars-championship/tabid/70/newsid/12124/default.aspx

[GTO Assassin]

Mmmmm. FULL support of NISMO! Gotta love that!

Scotty

[Azrian]

Found some mock ups someone did on the net

http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mellor.nsf/story2/AA819C4FAE4C87FDCA2576F5000186A2/$file/V8_Supercars_mock_up_group1.jpg?OpenElement

[c.rusli]

Im not a nissan die hard fan. but this has made the race MORE interesting!
http://www.madtomatoe.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Facebook-Like-Button-big.jpg

[monk_13]

denver nailed it.
one of the reasons I like F1 is the fact that certain teams have better aero, others have more power etc.
Same reason i liked the production car stuff, seeing an evo quick in the corners and at exit, with the big GTS reeling it in down the straight etc.

people racing the exact same car might interest some people, but not my cup of tea.

x2. But it is what it is. A business. And a great money earner. Why do I see it going the same way as NASCAR?

Will no doubt loosely follow to see how they go, but I doubt I will watch any more than the highlights reel of Bathurst.

[AGIT8D]

Will watch it all on tv, will go to the track to smell the E85 and listen to the loud fuckers bang limiter and rumble through the pit area.

Care not for whether Nissan are in the competition or not.

I know nothing about F1 but didn't they have to implement new ways to get the cars to pass each other because the racing was growing extremely tedious to watch? I watch quite a lot of V8SC, and I see plenty of passing, rubbing racing, cars belting walls etc, different strategies to win races that unfold over hundreds of laps.. I really enjoy it.

[Dearlove]

yeah, they have some sort of thing allowed for 10 sec's or so if your with in a certain 'time' of the car in front

the GT2 series on foxtel, which has vetts, mercs and everything in between is good to watch

and yes i've been to v8sc's, they're not some busted ass v8, they're bloody quick, just rather watch a car race that has some resemblance of its homologation evo models

[Jiblet]

yawn.
Much like america, we are easily entertained.

[TJ]

How so?

The show put on by V8 s/c is pretty damn good.

Good solid entrant list (group a days sometimes had 10/11 cars entered), tight close racing etc

[DanWA]

if the ricers are going to run a turbo, let the v8 boys run a turbo

otherwise i see no problem with a controlled setup, it keeps the competition fierce!

[cactus]

People who say the racing is boring with little over-taking etc. obviously don't actually watch it ...

As AGIT8D said, plenty of over-taking and panel bashing.

I love watching the V8SC and Nissan's entry will make it even more exciting.

It will be interesting to see how the COTF pans out, and what Nissan will be running.

[Alt_F4]

I haven't delved into the COTF rules, but unless they allow quad cam 8's, then the nissan will run a chev or a ford motor..
"A manufacturer wanting to join the V8 Supercars Championship could even come along with their own V8 engine, used under a parity system to ensure it's on par with the current units in the class, or use a 'category' engine if they wish to go with already-established technology."
http://www.v8supercars.com.au/technical/carofthefuture/thenewgenerationofv8supercars/tabid/1418/default.aspx

[djr81]

joshg123

My personal opinion, they need room to innovate. COTF is a great idea in concept but it will kill the series for someone who appreciated it on a technical side like i did. Have your regulations on fuel allowed..... "run whatever the fuck engine you want, but youve got this 100L to last 30laps...no more... no less" and get some technical innovation back into the sport. I can fully appreciate the work that goes into building a chassis, but live rear ends, pushrod v8's, control this, control that..... thats the shit you see in lower formulas aimed at budget motorsport, not the 'premier tier' of motorsport in Australia.

In saying that, i also realise Australian motorsport doesnt have the cash to throw at 'technical innovation' as i put it.

I say again *tj*, My opinion only :P

You do realise that the COTF will be using a transaxle (Designed & made in Orstraylea) and IRS dont you?

Oh and the teams have been working on ways to maximise fuel economy for years. Even before E85 made it even more critical.

But it is the Jack Daniels swilling Holden driving tards I feel sorry for. What are they going to do? Give up the Holdens, stay off the piss or just cry infront of the TV every other Sunday - Rick Kelly style.

[TJ]

We already have a COTF in everything but name.

- series dictated aero
- series dictated diff and gear ratios
- series dictated rpm limited
- series dictated rubber

[djr81]

We already have a COTF in everything but name.

- series dictated aero
- series dictated diff and gear ratios
- series dictated rpm limited
- series dictated rubber

Not that I really care but none of those things are what the COTF was about.

Overwhelmingly it was to use a common chassis to allow new manufacturers to compete.

While going about it they took the opportunity to change stuff, like:
Will use 18" tyres.
Will have transaxle & IRS instead of conventional gearbox & live axle with no diff.
Moved the fuel tank infront of the rear axle.

Other than the mandated ratios for gearbox & diff the things you mentioned have been around since 1992.

[Jimmy_S]

Talk that Chrysler are going to be the 4th manufacturer for 2013!?

http://www.formula1blog.com/2012/02/09/breaking-nissan-to-join-v8-supercars-chrysler-too/

[TJ]

Not that I really care but none of those things are what the COTF was about.

Overwhelmingly it was to use a common chassis to allow new manufacturers to compete.

While going about it they took the opportunity to change stuff, like:
Will use 18" tyres.
Will have transaxle & IRS instead of conventional gearbox & live axle with no diff.
Moved the fuel tank infront of the rear axle.

Other than the mandated ratios for gearbox & diff the things you mentioned have been around since 1992.

So all they are doing is adding a common chassis and new wheel size and change to read end.

Big whoop

[mc68]

We already have a COTF in everything but name.

- series dictated aero
- series dictated diff and gear ratios
- series dictated rpm limited
- series dictated rubber

And wheelbase, and rear end geometry, and front suspension..

Now it's just the same cars with a transaxle in the bum.

[Mad_Aussie]

http://www.formula1blog.com/2012/02/09/breaking-nissan-to-join-v8-supercars-chrysler-too/

Facepalm at the comments


dah,, rear drive v8 that’s what is required isnt it??
Besides Chrysler is ganna be good at it, Specially if they use the Hemi v8


I'm surprised they aren't using the Challanger body?

[Jimmy_S]

All speculation at the moment with Chrysler, that pic is from another race series as the new 300c is being released mid year here...

Although it seems there have been talks with one of the teams according to that article!

Challenger would be nice, but technically, that is a Dodge product, and it's also only available in 2dr!

Edit: There may actually be a 4dr version, but we don't get any of them here anyway?

http://www.ridelust.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/01-2012-dodge-charger-srt8.jpg

[djr81]

And wheelbase, and rear end geometry, and front suspension..

Now it's just the same cars with a transaxle in the bum.
Again not that I give a fk but that is wrong. Current cars have a live axle read end (Not that it looks anything like the one in your XB falcon).

People mock them but if you have ever stuck your head under the things and had a look they are actually really nicely made. Most of them are now fabricated from tube and heavilly triangulated and designed so the drive shafts are exposed to the air. They are adjustable for camber and toe due to the use of barrel gears and wedges. The Watts linkage is adjustable for height allowing roll centre changes on the run. Some are fitted for twin spring arrangements, some single. The mounting points for the springs can be readily changed. So yeah you can sneer at them but so few people have any idea what goes into them its laughable. Given the constraints involved they are really well engineered bits of gear.

The COTF transaxle will link to IRS and use an LSD.

So rear end geometry will be massivley different. The weight distribution and moments of inertia will be massively different. As will the cars handling characteristics - mostly due to the fitment of an LSD. No longer will they drive like buckets of shit.

So what if the wheelbase is frozen. Has been for years. They race car wheelbases are shorter than the road cars. That is why they have fibreglass rear door skins.

Front end freedoms are unchanged.

[DISTRBD]

So all they are doing is adding a common chassis and new wheel size and change to read end.


LOL more changes then that .

[Joe]

So apparently Nissan are allowed to use their own engine based on a production model.. rumoured that it'll be based on the Infiniti VK50VE 5.0 V8. This is where Nismo will step in I'd imagine.

I suppose as long as it makes power/torque the same as the Holden and Ford engine, it'll be permitted.

[DISTRBD]

I suppose as long as it makes power/torque the same as the Holden and Ford engine, it'll be permitted.

They have to run 10-1 comp and 7500 rev limit , if it dont come close to holden n ford they may aswell go holden engine .

[schnoods]

Looking good, hopefully Chrysler does go ahead and join in 2013 as well.

Will be good seeing the red and blue flags with MOPAR and NISMO flags scattered in there too. Possibly with toyota sponsoring a few cars in the drift and drag racing they might even consider if its viable to entertain the idea too.

[adrenalin]

Needs more Euros !

Still should help with another make in there.

Need 4 / 5 diff ones i think to make it more interesting.

[anton]

Toyota would be good, 2UR Powered ISF would go down a treat.

[Denver]

"A manufacturer wanting to join the V8 Supercars Championship could even come along with their own V8 engine, used under a parity system to ensure it's on par with the current units in the class, or use a 'category' engine if they wish to go with already-established technology."
http://www.v8supercars.com.au/technical/carofthefuture/thenewgenerationofv8supercars/tabid/1418/default.aspx

I read that too and laughed, it won't take nissan all that much effort to get a vk motor to punch out more power than a ford/chev v8sc motor, thats if they are even allowed to run them..

[mc68]

Again not that I give a fk but that is wrong. Current cars have a live axle read end (Not that it looks anything like the one in your XB falcon).

People mock them but if you have ever stuck your head under the things and had a look they are actually really nicely made. Most of them are now fabricated from tube and heavilly triangulated and designed so the drive shafts are exposed to the air. They are adjustable for camber and toe due to the use of barrel gears and wedges. The Watts linkage is adjustable for height allowing roll centre changes on the run. Some are fitted for twin spring arrangements, some single. The mounting points for the springs can be readily changed. So yeah you can sneer at them but so few people have any idea what goes into them its laughable. Given the constraints involved they are really well engineered bits of gear.

The COTF transaxle will link to IRS and use an LSD.

So rear end geometry will be massivley different. The weight distribution and moments of inertia will be massively different. As will the cars handling characteristics - mostly due to the fitment of an LSD. No longer will they drive like buckets of shit.

So what if the wheelbase is frozen. Has been for years. They race car wheelbases are shorter than the road cars. That is why they have fibreglass rear door skins.

Front end freedoms are unchanged.

where did I say it was a bad thing? Yes Ive seen the rear end on a V8sc, its a work of art. Dont try to get technical with me as I already know. Im saying up until now (2011) they all shared the same live rear end, (yeah a very adjustable one at that) but they all shared the same macpherson front suspension (brought in ages ago to keep the falcon competitive) and wheel base. The only substantial change I can really notice is the Albins control transaxle and IRS for 2012.

They were already controlled by to be exactly the same, this is just revising the same thing to make them slightly more modern.

[djr81]

where did I say it was a bad thing? Yes Ive seen the rear end on a V8sc, its a work of art. Dont try to get technical with me as I already know. Im saying up until now (2011) they all shared the same live rear end, (yeah a very adjustable one at that) but they all shared the same macpherson front suspension (brought in ages ago to keep the falcon competitive) and wheel base. The only substantial change I can really notice is the Albins control transaxle and IRS for 2012.

They were already controlled by to be exactly the same, this is just revising the same thing to make them slightly more modern.
Other way around. The Commodores are allowed to run wishbones in place of struts.

[Tocchi]

WA based Karl Reindler who helps out at No Limits occasionally, has signed up for the Kelly Team for 2012 and will be racing in the Nissan in 2013 :)

Karl was the unlucky driver re-ended in the starting line crash at Barbs in 2011 .. the massive fireball.

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=270422233029359&id=143008539104063

[Adr3naL1N]

gonna have to give karl a congrats next time i see him, glad he is joing the nissan ranks.

[TJ]

Hes just moved to Melbs so might be a while between drinks, I hope he gets the same engineering etc as the brothers do.

[DISTRBD]

Hes just moved to Melbs so might be a while between drinks, I hope he gets the same engineering etc as the brothers do.

I doubt the team want him running at the rear of the field like last year

[TJ]

Kellys = jd sponsorship

Karl = whilst the cars are built by the kellys etc, the funding isnt from their pocket... they dont care as long as he pays some of their bills.

[Voot]

gonna have to give karl a congrats next time i see him, glad he is joing the nissan ranks.

Same, glad to see he is getting a big break, still reppin the "Fair dinkum Sheds" for 2012 with Kelly racing.

But yeah hoping the introduction of Nissan will make me interested again! My cousin racing the Australian Formula Ford series is more interesting at the moment.

[Alt_F4]

Kellys = jd sponsorship
Pondering how this will work given the stink Nissan kicked up about alcohol brand sponsoring on their R35 GTR safety car.
Or maybe it was a bullshit reason to cover up other problems at the time *shrugs*

[mc68]

Other way around. The Commodores are allowed to run wishbones in place of struts.

Ah shit, my bad :) knew it was one of the other..

fair bump, play on

[3sgte]

They will be using the Altima with the "Car of the Future" chassis and engine. Nissan will have full backing of Nismo though so should make a difference :D

[fourseven]

From Car Advice.


This means any car body that has the right dimensions (or close enough – the current Falcon and Commodore are shortened 100mm to fit on the mandated wheelbase) can be plonked on this new chassis. Engines are another thing. Holden and Ford will persist with 5.0-litre pushrod V8s, which may have to be de-tuned to be on par with Nissan’s sophisticated but smaller quad-cam V8.

[TJ]

LOL I think they are in for a rude shock.

[DISTRBD]

LOL people reckon that pushrod technology is old and out dated yet new quad cam wont be able to match current power levels :P Nissan need to lift there game then and match the current power levels :)

[Risk10k]

I'm struggling to see how a brand new car will fair well against the current teams/cars. Those things are spastic.

[YOUR MATE]

It can only be a good thing. Any introduction of another manufacturer is going to spur on the current local brands. Same goes if Nissan get trounced for the first lot of races. Hardly likely to sit back and take it.

I can't wait.

[Alt_F4]

Nismo have been racing V8s for years, it's not a new idea, don't worry about them not making the power.

I wonder if Ford would think about jumping to a quad cam motor now that the rules allow, something closer to what they actually make.

[Tocchi]

I wonder if Ford would think about jumping to a quad cam motor now that the rules allow, something closer to what they actually make.
i hope not :-/

[pazza]

This is what V8 racing should be like. There is even a VE commodore run'n with the 05 number on the side.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eMADX5HvcAA

[scary]

that 300c looks like shit

[[Jacek]]

Wow - that looks awesome. Where are the taxis?

[anton]

this advert just popped up on youtube...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=trueview-instream&v=KFTuLELr1qo

[Jaak]

This morning in melbourne

http://i47.tinypic.com/2ikqgb4.jpg

http://www.news.com.au/top-stories/nissan-and-kelly-racing-will-take-the-wraps-off-their-2013-v8-supercar/story-e6frfkp9-1226506519148

[Bomber]

The want for a set of those brakes is quite large.

Looks alright with that colour scheme, not a fan of front lights but then again, the series has been all about Holden and Ford up until now.
Good luck to them, hopefully the Nissan goes well!

[ED40]

Now I might actually start watching v8's regularly again next year.

Hopefully they are competitve straight out of the box, the Kelly boys are excellent drivers and I have my fingers crossed that they have better results with setting up this car than previous.

On a side note, I have been looking at the facebook groups on this car and fuck me there are so many stupid pingpingpingpings with zero idea about anything putting their 2 cents in.

[Nic_A31]

The butthurt comments all over Facebook made/making my day. Obviously still biting the pillow since their last thrashing by a Datsun.

[Niva]

welcome, to the internet

[Kaido]

;969780']Wow - that looks awesome. Where are the taxis?

photos taken from my friend in italy

http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/383382_10151583580640026_782054535_n.jpg

http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/560298_10151583577745026_1220885670_n.jpg

[TJ]

Looks pretty much exactly like the current "fords" and "holdens"

[Buckets]

Can't wait until someone does that to their Commo over here.

[DISTRBD]

The butthurt comments all over Facebook made/making my day. Obviously still biting the pillow since their last thrashing by a Datsun.

I doubt Nissan will be handing out that type of a thrashing ..

[RMCprime]

https://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?fbid=10151114284674506&set=a.10151114283394506.442653.71830524505&type=3&theater

[Passage GT]

i think it looks alright, it's a pretty good paint scheme so that helps a fair bit, also hope they're competitive, with nissan and merc in the mix i'll definitely start watching again i think.

[duste]

it's a pretty good paint scheme so that helps a fair bit

How dare they play the old "red makes you go faster" card!

[DISTRBD]

i think it looks alright, it's a pretty good paint scheme so that helps a fair bit, also hope they're competitive, with nissan and merc in the mix i'll definitely start watching again i think.

Unlikely Jack Danniels would want it red and i doubt they will be close to competetive as the holden n fords .

[Passage GT]

Unlikely Jack Danniels would want it red and i doubt they will be close to competetive as the holden n fords .

yeah that's where the hope part comes in, would look good in black and white too though.

[pgc]

Here we go:

http://www.themotorreport.com.au/55480/v8sc-erebussbr-e-63-racer-to-produce-485kw-and-616-newtons

[Skitzo]

chyeaaaaahhhhhh!!!!!!

[SimonR32]

Here we go:

http://www.themotorreport.com.au/55480/v8sc-erebussbr-e-63-racer-to-produce-485kw-and-616-newtons

We made a totally new engine and it makes exactly the same power as everyone elses? haha

I wonder if they are bluffing and it's either making heaps more or less

[TJ]

They want it to make the same power, or close enough too.

P.S the Gis has quit supercars, a shame. Great character for the sport, and fast too.

[Evman]

We made a totally new engine and it makes exactly the same power as everyone elses? haha

I wonder if they are bluffing and it's either making heaps more or less

There are parity rules they need to stick to. If they made it more powerful they'd probably be penalised with extra weight. That's if they were allowed to make it more powerful in the first place.

People will complain about the parity rules, but it makes close racing. Look at Bathurst, 1000km and a "Holden" and "Ford" finished 1-2 nose to tail. People watch for the battles, not to see one be 10 laps ahead of the next car.

Hopefully next year it'll be a Holden, Ford, Nissan and a Merc battling for the top four spots.

[Sully]

It's going to be interesting to see if there's a spike in sponsorship dollars in the next few years with the new manufacturers coming in, it's definitely going to generate a bit more interest in the category even if it is still just from the petrol head community.

P.S the Gis has quit supercars, a shame. Great character for the sport, and fast too.
Any sport losing young talent sucks doesn't it. Hope he makes a come back to some form of motorsport.

[Evman]

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/motor-sport/nissan-unveils-four-car-v8-supercar-squad/story-fne7fnti-1226576064923

Maxima has been officially unveiled. Turns out the quad cam wasn't as easy to get the power from as some assumed it would be

http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2013/02/12/1226576/069072-nissan.jpg

Will be great to see the fuel economy outcome after a few races. Could make a very big difference in the endurance races