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[AGIT8D]

G'day all,

I'm in the market for a new job.

For the past 2.5 years I have been in a Scheduling/Estimating role for a Residential building company. I am currently part way through my Estimating Traineeship which work wanted me to complete for their and my benefit. If I have to wave goodbye to this to land another job I will, or will happily transfer the traineeship to another building company if that is what the new job entails.

Previously I have assisted the Supervisor for UGHRM (underground hard rock mining) for Sandvik Field Service, opening and closing jobs, liaising with tradies, site, management etc, running full accounts on jobs, using Aurora, scheduling, ordering parts etc..

Prior to that I had 3.5 years experience at Plutonic Gold Mine with Sandvik mining steering their consumables contract, which was worth about $2Mn/yr. This involved forecasting, stock orders, re-sharpening drill bits, straightening bent rods, data entry of each of 13 drill rigs to monitor useage etc etc. I would liaise with Brisbane and Perth head office as well as Barrick Gold management in this role.

I currently have a work vehicle, so any new job would entail my quick purchase of a run around to get to Perth, and I am extremely open to work in Perth, as I intend to move towards the City in the near future.

I'm open to most offers, be it residential building, mining/O&G, and don't mind working my way up with on the job training or otherwise for the right job. Not interested in dead end jobs where progression is limited.

Hit me up via PM or AGIT8D@hotmail.com - cheers!

Dan

[JBAE]

Hit the plex up brah they may be hiring! newayssss

You got road experience? Email resume to emmajane.gray@eyesongroup.com.au she just said then so she can have a suss of it has an estimator role going ATM and maybe some others if you'd still do that type of job


Xoxo mofcukker

[AGIT8D]

Hit the plex up brah they may be hiring! newayssss

You got road experience? Email resume to emmajane.gray@eyesongroup.com.au she just said then so she can have a suss of it has an estimator role going ATM and maybe some others if you'd still do that type of job


Xoxo mofcukker

Haha!! The 'plex wouldn't pay me enough, it's obvious how many staff they put into organising MV, information never arrives until the last minute.

Road experience? Are you talking about civil estimating? I haven't got any experience in that, but am happy to learn if given the chance. My understanding was that most civil positions required an Engineering degree of sorts..

[JBAE]

Send in ye resume and see manggg not too sure just what was mentioned to me when I mentioned ur post ect

[Turbo2.6L]

Most estimating roles either require an eng degree or some sort of technical background, but there is the odd occasion that somebody with neither is given a chance. Shoot your resume through to BLAA's mate asap & cross your fingers!
Do you have any degree/diplomas?? If not & you are open to a career change, i'd suggest looking into a financial type course. Cert IV in Financial Services or similar will get your foot in the door for a costing position, albeit low level to start with. Few years on & you'll be on the big $$$ once some experience is earned.

[AGIT8D]

Send in ye resume and see manggg not too sure just what was mentioned to me when I mentioned ur post ect

I have emailed her to touch base, will need to prepare a resume tonight.


Most estimating roles either require an eng degree or some sort of technical background, but there is the odd occasion that somebody with neither is given a chance. Shoot your resume through to BLAA's mate asap & cross your fingers!
Do you have any degree/diplomas?? If not & you are open to a career change, i'd suggest looking into a financial type course. Cert IV in Financial Services or similar will get your foot in the door for a costing position, albeit low level to start with. Few years on & you'll be on the big $$$ once some experience is earned.

I think you are correct as far as civil estimating and industries similar. It's not the case with residential, and they certainly don't pay as though you'd be bringing a trade to the table haha.

This traineeship is a 2 year course for a Cert IV in Building & Construction Estimating.. So that would have been the main ticket I'd have after TEE.. My previous training has always been on the job, and I've never struggled to pick anything up. I always seem to work best when learning new things actually.

[AGIT8D]

As for undertaking more training, certainly open to it Dean, moreso if it's as part of a new job than maintaining employment where I am currently whilst studying my traineeship and another course as well to change industries.

[Turbo2.6L]

Will be hard to break into anything that pays well if you want to study at the same time to build up quals. You'll either need to move into an entry level position in the new field (say Project Controls Assistant for the Costing/Finance industry) & study Cert IV Financial Services concurrently, stay where you are & undertake extra study on top of existing workload, or stay in the same industry/profession.

Just as a side note, Project Controls positions pay up around the $65k mark & are fairly easy roles.,, Will leave plenty of energy for study. Not sure how that compares to what you're on now, but it's not like you'll be living on bread & water should you change proffessions, unless you're on a baller salary now & couldn't service current loans/lifestyle etc.

[AGIT8D]

unless you're on a baller salary now & couldn't service current loans/lifestyle etc.

Ha! What lifestyle? My SS wouldn't be up for sale if I was rolling in it, I can assure you.

What you're proposing sounds like something I could embrace with the goal of studying to work through to different roles. Do you has the hook ups as well!?

For the record, I'm not looking elsewhere due to money, though I am grossly underpaid for what I do currently, even my own management have told me that after talking to other building companies and how many houses they do per staff etc.

[Turbo2.6L]

I got no hookups, but their is sooooo much work out there at the moment in the oil & gas industry that you'd be very unlucky not to fall into something fairly quickly. We have taken on 4 project controls peoples in the past 6 weeks to fill the spots from others working their way up the ladder into Cost Controller & planning roles. I also get atleast 1 phone call per week with a decent job offer from vast amounts of companies/employment agencies as everywhere is picking up work quicker than they can recruit for.

Costing/Planning/Estimating/Doc Control are all high paying roles that you can get into fairly easy, but nobody just jumps straight into a top tier position that pays $250,00p/a. You need to start at the bottom & work your way up, but the good thing about Oil & Gas industry is that even the low level positions are decent paying in comparison.

[AGIT8D]

Thanks for the advice mate, I'd never expect something for nothing.

Til I have a chance to look into Dean's suggestion further and prepare a resume, if anyone else has suggestions or contacts for something that might suit my work or industry experience, please share them with me!

Dan

[Azrian]

I got no hookups, but their is sooooo much work out there at the moment in the oil & gas industry that you'd be very unlucky not to fall into something fairly quickly. We have taken on 4 project controls peoples in the past 6 weeks to fill the spots from others working their way up the ladder into Cost Controller & planning roles. I also get atleast 1 phone call per week with a decent job offer from vast amounts of companies/employment agencies as everywhere is picking up work quicker than they can recruit for.

Costing/Planning/Estimating/Doc Control are all high paying roles that you can get into fairly easy, but nobody just jumps straight into a top tier position that pays $250,00p/a. You need to start at the bottom & work your way up, but the good thing about Oil & Gas industry is that even the low level positions are decent paying in comparison.

You cant put estimating into the same catagory as the others especially Doc Control. Doc Control is an admin role you muppet.

[Azrian]

Apply for roles as Tech Clerk, Project Admin etc first in the mining industry. If your good people will see this and you will work your way up very quickly.

Its the people that want to be manager already with no experience who dont last long around here.

[Turbo2.6L]

Doc Controllers are on $100k here. Yes it's admin related, yes it pays well & opens the door...
Estimating is not above & beyond costing or planning either, it's just that estimators think they are a class above because they get their asses wiped for them, muppet <3

We'll discuss this further when i'm your GM in a couple of years Adrian :p Hahahaha

[Azrian]

Eat a dick. Try to get a "decent" SMP estimator (Not EPCM that your company employs) for under $200k. Not happening.

Civils you can have for a lot less.

[Turbo2.6L]

Estimators = Overpayed. End of story

[Azrian]

I agree but they are as rare as a dick in your ass.......................hang on...

[cplagz]

I estimate this thread will have a short lifespan the way it's going.

[Turbo2.6L]

Apache are after costies atm
Clough are after costies & planners atm
Chevron are after everything atm
Cimeco are after a junior estimator i believe

Start there Dan. Register interest through their respective websites & send a copy of your cv once updated.

[AGIT8D]

I know a bloke @ Cimeco..........................

Chuurs!

[Azrian]

Apache are after costies atm
Clough are after costies & planners atm
Chevron are after everything atm
Cimeco are after a junior estimator i believe

Start there Dan. Register interest through their respective websites & send a copy of your cv once updated.

No we are not

[Turbo2.6L]

Did Matt take the job?
All other suggestions i posted are still looking...

[Azrian]

I was working on that today...again.

[Jumanji]

Go and do a PM course like I said honkey.

[AGIT8D]

Read above man, I'm not currently in a position to be doing a job and various studyings as well.. Just like I'm not at liberty to go into details why.

But if people know of jobs, then that's what this here thread is all about, so please be forthcoming, and Diddly Dean I am looking into what you've posted, thanks for taking some time to throw a few options out there.

[Turbo2.6L]

PM course is worth nothing if you have no experience in atleast one of the fields i posted above. Managers aren't hired straight out of school, they work there way up like everybody else.

[H1GHROLLR]

Sell crack ...... END THREAD

[Skitzo]

Hit the plex up brah they may be hiring! newayssss

You got road experience? Email resume to emmajane.gray@eyesongroup.com.au she just said then so she can have a suss of it has an estimator role going ATM and maybe some others if you'd still do that type of job


Xoxo mofcukker

Offtopic, but i went to school/friends with her. Was in my tute and shit. Got her on ma facebooks. woooooooooo

[AGIT8D]

PM course is worth nothing if you have no experience in atleast one of the fields i posted above. Managers aren't hired straight out of school, they work there way up like everybody else.

I agree. A family member of mine is close to landing PM job with the Defense Force, and it's been a relatively long road to get there, few years here, a year there.. Into assistant position now.


Offtopic, but i went to school/friends with her. Was in my tute and shit. Got her on ma facebooks. woooooooooo

Thanks for that! :) The job is civil, I said thanks but I won't waste her time any further, I'm not qualified in that industry, nor with the job.

[Jumanji]

PM course is worth nothing if you have no experience in atleast one of the fields i posted above. Managers aren't hired straight out of school, they work there way up like everybody else.

Disagree, Project Management is a methodology not a trade. The technical knowledge is not as necissary in Project Management as it is the knowledge and practice of running, servicing a project through scope/benefit/stake holders ect ect ect ect. the teamworker ( usually subcontracted ) are the ones with the specific knowledge of the task that the have won/been given.

[Turbo2.6L]

O RLY? That must be why there are so many 21y/o Project Managers fresh out of uni across all industry... Wait what?
I take it you're currently undertaking some sort of PM course? I have a double diploma in management as well as the best part of 2 bachelors degrees & a number of other diplomas, yet still am not ready to take on a management position with 100% confidence. It takes much more than a piece of paper to develop the necessary skilset needed to manage a successful team/project.

[RELEASE]

Disagree, Project Management is a methodology not a trade. The technical knowledge is not as necissary in Project Management as it is the knowledge and practice of running, servicing a project through scope/benefit/stake holders ect ect ect ect. the teamworker ( usually subcontracted ) are the ones with the specific knowledge of the task that the have won/been given.Fucken lol! Thats just stupid.
Not only do you also need the the subject matter knowledge of the projects your going to be the PM for but you also need experience in that field.
Can understand all the PM methodology in the world but when it comes to PMs there a small amount good ones and alot of average ones. its not the glory job that people think it is.

Dan, also have a look our site INPEX.
www.inpexcareers.com, pretty sure there is some EOI applications. Now that we have officially announced FID its game on for so many jobs.

[Azrian]

Disagree, Project Management is a methodology not a trade. The technical knowledge is not as necissary in Project Management as it is the knowledge and practice of running, servicing a project through scope/benefit/stake holders ect ect ect ect. the teamworker ( usually subcontracted ) are the ones with the specific knowledge of the task that the have won/been given.

hahaha LOL that is the funniest shit i have heard. Thanks for your comment. I'll pass this around the office tomorrow to some PMs to get a few laughs.

Are you even in the industry?

Did you copy that directly from one of your text books from India?

[TJ]

I was working on that today...again.
Dont lie, busy eating pizza :P

[Azrian]

haha yeah TJ that was him. It was poaching.

[TJ]

I was treated to lunch but no job. Bugger.

[SSICK]

Sell crack ...... END THREAD

POST OF 2012

[Turbo2.6L]

H1ROLLR, clearly a resident of Mandurah :D

[AGIT8D]

This has been upgraded from want to need.

Anyone who can wade through the off topic ramble to lend a hand - please do.

Dean I have SEEKed (sought?) for jobs you've mentioned, lots of Cost Controllers but I think to avoid wasting anyone's time I would need to apply a level below that, of which I couldn't find a great deal.

Loaded up near on 20 Estimating jobs, and I'm sure there are Scheduling jobs as well which I haven't looked into yet. Will pick and choose from those rather than apply for all 20 and lose track of where I'm at. Hopefully I can hop, skip, jump in the next fortnight.

[TJ]

Ill have a look on our intranet on monday if you like

[AGIT8D]

Appreciate it Teej!