F1 2012 chat thread

[Halle Terry]

Missed the race,

Cliff notes?

[fourseven]

Paul and I had bets on Alonso and Raikkonen to win.
Alonso leads race after turn 1, Pastor Maldonado leads race after second pitstops from 2nd place, in a fucking Williams, with a down syndrome face.
Pastor leads the rest of the race.
Alonso catches him in the last dozen laps, getting closer under DRS waiting for his opportunity.
5 laps to go Alonso's tyres which are 3 laps newer go off, loses by 3+ seconds.
Alonso second, Raikkonen third.

[TJ]

Webber got lapped too

[Lonewolf]

Lewis drove a pretty good race from the back to get up to where he finished
surprised me by not crashing into someone else.

[ClevoCapri]

Im glad to see a Williams back on top.
Why cant Ozy drivers beat there team mates!!!!!
Atleast the race had some action.

[esky]

Pastor should really be made to keep his helmet on for interviews, he must be ugliest pingpingpingping to ever race in F1

[Sebdullah]

Think Vettle did well also especially after drive through, cant believe Pasta actually managed to keep his cool when he was under some rediculous pressure at times

[Kaido]

what was with Lotus ?

Running kimi on the soft on the 1st stop? Lotus was clearly faster on the hard tyres... able to bring down the 20second gap he had in the last 15-20laps

[POH73]

Pastor should really be made to keep his helmet on for interviews, he must be ugliest pingpingpingping to ever race in F1

Was watching him during the press conference - he's got a good head for UFC

ps Kimi gave 1 fuck during the PC - a new record for him :)

A big congrats to Williams. I was starting to wonder a couple of years ago why sir Frank would even bother anymore. Sack Sam Michael = Race win. Send him to MacLaren and watch him fuck up that team Hahaha

[Kaido]

Was watching him during the press conference - he's got a good head for UFC

ps Kimi gave 1 fuck during the PC - a new record for him :)

i love when kimi on the podium he always drinks the champagne 1st before throwing it other lol

[Torquen]

I loved Kimi giving the other two the don't argue when they tried to spray champagne on him on the podium.

[esky]

http://www.planetf1.com/driver/18227/7754103/Serious-fire-in-Williams-garage

not good

[fourseven]

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Next minute...

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[fourseven]

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[esky]

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[esky]

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jesus

[fourseven]

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[fourseven]

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4 members of the Williams team, 4 members of the Caterham team and 1 member of Force India were taken to the medical centre for checks. Electrical problem = fuel rig exploding apparently.

[fourseven]

And 1 last post from me for tonight.

Fernando Alonso. All class.

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[TJ]

Yeah well done to him for that.

Such a shame to see the fire.

[Joe]

Have you ever been so angry that you went fire extinguisher bowling?

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[jaybee]

farout that is a serious fire, williams will be leaving with slightly less gear by the looks.

[fourseven]

Apparently Senna's car is destroyed? Doesn't matter, he only uses it to crash into shit.

[TJ]

Nah its covered in extinguisher spray, but intact. I reckon they will replace it though because heat can make the compisite brittle.

[Skitzo]

LOL, so he'll be copping a grid drop penalty next round?

[DISTRBD]

What were they trying to hide ?

[esky]

Apparently Senna's car is destroyed? Doesn't matter, he only uses it to crash into shit.

or as a brake for Schumacher.

[TJ]

What were they trying to hide ?

Nothing - Maldanondo's car was in park ferme at the other end of pitlane

[fourseven]

I'd assume the FIA will allow replacements without penalties. Surely there is a little bit of compassion left.

[TJ]

World would be a crazy place if they didnt.

[fourseven]

LOL at Pastor leading DOTD on JA's site. Pit early, Ferrari leave Alonso out too long = driver of the day!

I voted for Lewis.

[Joe]

LOL, so he'll be copping a grid drop penalty next round?

As the incident is "force majeure", they may let it slide.

[POH73]

Surely there is a little bit of compassion left.

http://cache.jalopnik.com/assets/images/12/2009/07/Bernie_Ecclestone_F1_Boss_2.jpg
You just never know with this guying pulling the strings :rolleyes:

[fourseven]

True, but it's the FIA that will decide what's what. Bernie has very little control in that regard.

[esky]

Unfortunate but i can't see them giving Williams fuckall.

Had the car caught fire on the track, stiff. Car catches fire in the pits, through something Williams have done, bad luck but still something they fucked up.

[SimonR32]

Wouldn't have this issue if it was a Mclaren fire... They don't put any fuel in the cars anyway :)

[Tom]

Hamilton's fault

[MGR]

Good to see McLaren are still finding new ways to fuck Hamilton's 2012 season.

Tyre removal guy;
You don't have to worry about a jammed rattle gun or cross threading,
you need not worry about getting the replacement tyre perfectly lined up,
all you have to do is whip the wheel off and hold the fucker out of the way.

[TJ]

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Open in new tab.

I wonder how macca will fuck Lewis at Monaco?

Fit inters before Q1 on a dead dry track?

[fourseven]

Rumours heating up that Schumacher wants out.

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[TJ]

LOL autosport photoshop thread so good!

[bjohnson]

Doesn't surprise me that Schumacher is looking to leave.

I was just saying today that I can't see him wanting to stay another year.

Put the fact that he's not really performing aside for a minute.
It's pretty obvious that he doesn't like the sport that F1 currently is.

Opening at MGP next year, Would be keen to see someone like Di Resta in there.

[Jazza]

Has anyone noticed excluding Fernando nobody has been really out performing their car since Kubica left the sport? Sure Maldonado's drive was good but he's been useless this year otherwise... I always enjoyed having a few drivers that seemed to be able to push their cars further than they should be. Maybe this is another tire issue as drivers can't consistently push the cars to show their abilities, they're having to drive at 90% most of the time and worry about fuel consumption at other times.

[fourseven]

That's my biggest complaint Jazza! Has been for 2 years. The sport is fake as fuck. You know you are doomed when the business owner is seriously suggesting sprinklers on the track to spice shit up.

Get rid of the aero. Get rid of the manipulated tyres. Get rid of some of the build restrictions. Bring back refueling. Best driver (skill) in the best car (build, not aero) wins.

[Torquen]

That's my biggest complaint Jazza! Has been for 2 years. The sport is fake as fuck. You know you are doomed when the business owner is seriously suggesting sprinklers on the track to spice shit up.

Get rid of the aero. Get rid of the manipulated tyres. Get rid of some of the build restrictions. Bring back refueling. Best driver (skill) in the best car (build, not aero) wins.

Fair point but I think the aero is a good thing too. Adds another element, I just don't see why the had to take away the other factors which make the sport so diverse and interesting.

[TJ]

I dont agree with all of that. They must have a common set of rules to build towards, but allowing innovation.

Refuelling yes.

Tyres that allow drivers to push yes

[SimonR32]

I don't want it to go back to the late 2000's when they used to hit the 2 sec barrier behind the car in front and then get caught in the dirty air not to be able to get any closer!

[Buckets]

Get rid of the aero. Get rid of the manipulated tyres. Get rid of some of the build restrictions. Bring back refueling. Best driver (skill) in the best car (build, not aero) wins.

I'd rather they kept the aero but made it less susceptible to the turbulence of a preceding car. The DRS is great for drag racing someone on a straight however the passes on corners is what we watch it for. Seeing a car sit on the arse of another duck out and make a big dive is what it's all about. The aero dependence makes is very hard to do that without hurting the tyres. Would ground effect based designs be any better though ?

Tyres agreed, build restrictions agreed... there's always going to be rich teams and poor teams regardless of the rules. The rich teams will almost always have a stronger car so why not let them go mad and built the best thing they possibly can. I might be on my own here but I'd also like to see manual boxes return, makes life a little bit harder for the drivers and add's a new challenge for them. Seeing some of the old school drivers completely at the edge of what the car could deliver with one hand fighting the wheel, the other going for the gears is brilliant to watch. I'd say that kind of caper would be a bit too much to ask of some of the drivers these days.

[Joe]

I reckon they should lift some of the build restrictions and allow the teams to go nuts... and then allow Claiming Rule Team status for the lesser teams, like they do with Moto GP..

[TJ]

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Look at how good that stop is.. McLaren take note

[Riggs]

Saw tat in the race and was hoping togetanother look at it. So good.

[satch]

I dont agree with all of that. They must have a common set of rules to build towards, but allowing innovation.

Refuelling yes.

Tyres that allow drivers to push yes

Honestly I think just bring back refuelling and tyres will resolve themselves, Drivers will no longer be carrying 1xx kgs of fuel, so will deal with less tyre issues. When your close to the cut off you stop.

[fourseven]

Great pitstop, shit strategy.

McLaren/Ferrari same same.

[Jazza]

Yeh I think even just having tires that allow drivers to push hard for longer, they can still have that cliff drop off they have and refueling would make the sport better. Hamilton getting to P8 because he has nursed his tires well during the race is impressive but far more boring than watching him go flat out!

[esky]

fuck off the engine freeze and rev limits.

i want to hear those engines scream.

[TJ]

The limits arnt too bad - it stops people like Honda spending a billion dollars then cracking the shits and leaving.

[Sleepy]

I think people are just making excuses because their favourite driver isn't dominating.
There are a few drivers starting to find some consistency and unfortunately their teams have let them down, possibly because everyone is so close the pressure is more intense.
As a spectator it's exactly the kind of racing I like to watch, not knowing if the car in front can make their tyres last the last 5 laps makes it exciting to watch.

[fourseven]

Bollocks.

Nothing makes me sadder than seeing Pastor Maldonado beating Alonso, Hamilton, Vettel and Raikkonen. These 4 should be at the front, wheel to wheel racing because they are the best in the world. The sport in its current form is a joke and the best drivers on the grid can't win races with pure skill because they are hamstrung by policies and parts designed simply to attract new bums on seats. The sport is still watched by more people than any other sport on the planet, so I don't understand this need to spice things up. I'd prefer the racing be boring as bat shit if it means the best in the world were being challenged on skill, not who can make their tyres last longer and build the best DRS/KERS/other BS aero device.

My favourite driver is leading the championship. I'd still prefer him to be able to race on the limit against the other 3 up front.

[Sleepy]

If it's just about pure skill then give everyone the same car.

[fourseven]

I could live with that!

[POH73]

I'm not sure what to make of the season so far and along with everyone else am still in the dark over the pecking order.

I'm quite happy with the tyre performance as such but absolutely despise the fact that there are limited sets available - I see that's the only issue. Would love to see any quantities of tyres available for Quali and Race and then we'll see each driver going flat out until the tyres drop off. If someone wants to go with a conservative strategy then by all means reduce your pace/wear as we've always seen in the past seasons.
In relation to engines, yes the freeze is frustrating and seemingly against the spirit of F1 however the extremely low numbers of retirements is great to see. There's nothing worse than seeing your driver out due to an issue that's outside their control (Lewis fans will understand this ;)).

Otherwise I don't think the series is broken at all, it's just different to what we've seen in the past. I'm sure there was plenty of hate last year due to RBRs dominance and Ferrari's dominance in the early 2000s compared to the lucky dip we have now.

I too am somewhat frustrated by the season so far but OTOH think that it's awesome for the sport that Williams had a race win, Mercedes had their first race win, Sauber came oh so close and Alonso had a win in what was considered a dog of a car.

[jaybee]

It's not just about pure skill, f1 has always been the pinnacle of motorsport not just because of the drivers that compete, but the engineering and innovation that goes into the cars. Half of the reason i love f1 is so much is seeing the contrasts between the cars and the way parts are designed and used to meet a restriction, or pioneering something new as an unfair advantage. It's a team sport and always has been. Like what has been mentioned, what's deadening the sport at the moment are the tyres and only the tyres, aimed for one thing and that is more spectators. As soon as any sport starts going down that path, it never ends well. I don't know about other people but i don't need stupidly high tyre degradation to sit down and enjoy watching f1, if you do, then sorry but your not a true formula 1 fan, it's quite simple.

[Brockas]

Nothing makes me sadder than seeing Pastor Maldonado beating Alonso, Hamilton, Vettel and Raikkonen. These 4 should be at the front, wheel to wheel racing because they are the best in the world.
Funny you say that, because without Lewis's penalty, and without Vettel's penalty, we probably would have seen exactly that.


I don't know how anyone can complain about this season. The RBR's, McLaren's, Lotus's, Ferarri's, Sauber's, Mercedes' and Williams' are all on the pace depending on the type of track, which means it's got a lot more to do with driver skill.

Look at some of the qualifying sessions we've had. Before this year, when was the last time you saw the top 8 drivers all within 0.3 seconds of each other???


IMO some of you think that Lewis, Sebastian, Kimi and Fred are that much faster than anyone else, that they should be 1-2 seconds ahead of the field in qualifying.

I agree, they are the best drivers in the current line-up, however they are only 0.1-0.2 tenths faster than their team-mates, and that's not a huge margin when strategy mistakes or a mistake in Q3 can result in losing 10 grid/race positions.

[TJ]

Certainly not the case in terms of Fred of Lewis - way more than .1/2 quicker consistently so far this season.

Its hard - the racing has been decent, but it rewards "ok-ness" rather than "greatness"

07/08 tyres/refuelling with kers drs and current aero would rock imho.

[Sleepy]

So now that the top 4 drivers don't always win it's not a true test of skill or true F1?
I think it's got a lot more to do with skill in managing the tyres which is why the big teams are struggling under pressure.
Sounds a lot more fair to me, drivers in smaller teams with arguably more skill can now win a race.

[satch]

fuck off the engine freeze and rev limits.

i want to hear those engines scream.

They will whistling whining and chattering away next year....

[Adr3naL1N]

what are the chances refueling will ever be brought back, in the near future i mean?

[fourseven]

I don't know how anyone can complain about this season. The RBR's, McLaren's, Lotus's, Ferarri's, Sauber's, Mercedes' and Williams' are all on the pace depending on the type of track, which means it's got a lot more to do with driver skill.

I'm not really complaining, I just don't think it's as good as it could be. I've enjoyed every race so far just not the results. I'm stuck in early 2000 unfortunately.




Its hard - the racing has been decent, but it rewards "ok-ness" rather than "greatness"

07/08 tyres/refuelling with kers drs and current aero would rock imho.

This right here. TJ, buy FOM and sort it.

/discussion.

[Brockas]

Certainly not the case in terms of Fred of Lewis - way more than .1/2 quicker consistently so far this season.
I think that's more a case of Jensen and Felipe struggling, rather than Fernando and Lewis being that much faster. I'd say it's more like Fred and Lewis being 0.1-0.2 quicker, and Massa / Button being 0.2-0.3 slower than they should be consistently.

For example, if you put Perez or Di Resta in the McLaren / Ferrari (hell, even Ricciardo after seeing some of his qualifying laps) then we'd see a closer battle between team mates.

[TJ]

Since 2010 the gap Lewis-Button has been about .35 of a second - thats with bridgestones, EDB, etc etc.

Fred to Massa not sure tbh.

[POH73]

what are the chances refueling will ever be brought back, in the near future i mean?

Zero I think, it was removed due to safety concerns and this hasn't been removed as a threat yet.

[Brockas]

Since 2010 the gap Lewis-Button has been about .35 of a second - thats with bridgestones, EDB, etc etc.

Fred to Massa not sure tbh.
Ok so 3 tenths give or take.

Over a 50 lap race that's 15 seconds if they're going flat out with no traffic. If all 3 are racing close, then you won't see those kind of times, so I'd expect to see them pretty much even.

What I'm trying to say is, that unless you have someone with a clear 1-2 second advantage due to pure skill (think Senna in the wet) then you're not going to see the best driver winning every race.

The cars are all so close this season that anyone can win if they have the right set of circumstances and play their cards right, as Pastor proved.


ps. He's not exactly a chump, didn't he win a GT2 title?

[TJ]

It was never removed due to safety concerns, it was taken away to break Ferrari McLaren dominance of the early to mid 2000's

00-04 Ferrari

05-06 - Fernando, even though McLaren and Ferrari were still fast often, Kimi should of probably won both but had a hand grenade car.

07 -08 Ferrari McLaren dominance

09 The DD and KERs changed it, but by then the ruling was decided for 2010 and beyond

[satch]

I was under the impression it was removed for safety becomes of rigs malfunctioning and people leaving stops with hoses etc.

No difference really, now they just catch fire in the garage.

[fourseven]

Wasn't it removed because the sport was moving to a "greener" setup?

[POH73]

Just did a check and this was the result:


"It was confirmed that from 2010, refueling during a race will be forbidden in order to save the costs of transporting refueling equipment and increase the incentive for engine builders to improve fuel economy (to save weight)," said the FIA in a statement following a meeting of the World Motor Sport Council.

I'm sure flash fires and cars trundling down pitlane didn't help Lol

[Jazza]

07/08 tyres/refuelling with kers drs and current aero would rock imho.

Couldn't agree more! The sport would be SO much better this way. Driver skill/metal control would play a larger role, you'd still have the ability to pass and strategy would still be important due to the fueling of the cars. Oh well at least we have F1 to bitch about in the first place I guess lol

[crabman]

Thats what I thought, never mind the hundreds of tyres gone through. Fuel is nothing in the scheme of tyre use and transport "carbon" output.

How did the old Birdgestones compare to the current tyres for grip?? Did they really last a whole race with little drop off in performance?? I didnt really follow the sport back then.

[fourseven]

Bridgestone tyres were awesome. The huge increase in aero development meant that overtaking was capable only by those in the best car with the best skill (or mental issues putting their car where most wouldn't!).

What most people probably don't know is refuelling was banned back in the early 90s. They reinstated refuelling in 1994. Why? To spice up the show because Williams were dominating. So this time around they introduced KERS to spice up the show, and completely wipe out any strategy and pit jumping by banning refuelling. Great idea, not. And when KERS wasn't enough, teams started to introduce fancy aero devices, and then Pirelli introduced their tyres. And then Bernie wanted sprinklers on track.

Everyone's gone fucking mad.

[TJ]

DRS is not aero Rhett (it affects it but you know what I mean)

They actually went backwards on aero

Removed winglets etc
This was beaten by the DD in 09
This was then banned
This was beaten by the EBD
This was banned
This is slowly being beaten by aiming exhausts at the rear wing etc
Guess what will go next...

[fourseven]

It's still a device that manipulates the racing to spice up the show by reducing aerodynamic drag, you know what I mean!

They only went backwards in aero because they outlaw it. The invention of new aero is always happening, and if we just went back to F1 roots they wouldn't need to! What you suggested earlier would be a perfect combination.

[Joe]

A QANTAS 747 uses 340,000+ litres of fuel going from Perth to London and return. (12 litres per km x 14,500km each way)

The F1 grid uses:

500 litres (being generous) for Practice, Quali, Race
x 24 cars
x 20 races in the season

Fuel consumption is really a moot point.

[anton]

make the exhausts exit right out the back of the car inline with the diffuser so the exhausts gasses exit after all the aero, backwards in aero to slow the cars down, increase the mechanical grip larger tires etc

[fourseven]

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This right here is Formula 1 during one of its best modern seasons in my opinion.

2005 Monaco.
No tyre changes during the race.
Changes to chassis to decrease or limit downforce.
Refuelling allowed.
Multiple tyre manufacturers.
Engines need to last 2 races.
McLaren built a shit car but Kimi still matched Fred for race wins.
No KERS, no bullshit aero.
Shit loads of overtaking.
The winning car wasn't designed by Adrian Newey or Rory Byrne!

Balls to the motherfuckn' wall, put your foot down and hang the fuck on! The best man wins.

[anton]

cant seem to find it on f1.com anymore but there as somehting about the 2014 regulations , ground effect aero with less emphasis on producing downforce on wings, and the new v6 turbo motors,

[jaybee]

2014 will shake things up massively, i'm looking forward to it.

[TJ]

Japan 2005 - probably one of the greatest F1 races of all time.

[jaybee]

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This right here is Formula 1 during one of its best modern seasons in my opinion.

2005 Monaco.
No tyre changes during the race.
Changes to chassis to decrease or limit downforce.
Refuelling allowed.
Multiple tyre manufacturers.
Engines need to last 2 races.
McLaren built a shit car but Kimi still matched Fred for race wins.
No KERS, no bullshit aero.
Shit loads of overtaking.
The winning car wasn't designed by Adrian Newey or Rory Byrne!

Balls to the motherfuckn' wall, put your foot down and hang the fuck on! The best man wins.

how i miss that sound!

look at the difference between the front and rear tyres, so minimal, the cars were so so different back then.

[TJ]

http://www.thef1slate.com/news/120515

hahahahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[fourseven]

Japan 2005 - probably one of the greatest F1 races of all time.

LOL yep! "Overtaking wasn't possible before DRS". "F1 was boring without Pirelli tyres".

Kimi Raikkonen, from 17th on the grid goes on to win the race, overtaking race leader Fisichella on the last lap, in a car that would randomly explode for no reason.

[jaybee]

"
Is it because you were bla... tantly underweight?"
LOL


LOL yep! "Overtaking wasn't possible before DRS". "F1 was boring without Pirelli tyres".

Kimi Raikkonen, from 17th on the grid goes on to win the race, overtaking race leader Fisichella on the last lap, in a car that would randomly explode for no reason.

Barely remember that now, time to start downloading some old races i think. Are there many torrents floating around?

[fourseven]

LOL at Schumi and Montoya.


Barely remember that now, time to start downloading some old races i think. Are there many torrents floating around?

Good luck! Your best chance is racingfor.me, but you'll need an invite.

[Jazza]

Just FYI did anyone know Hamilton had 1.3L of fuel in the car for the stewards? So he's been punished for stopping the car on the track after qualifying then?

[TJ]

Just FYI did anyone know Hamilton had 1.3L of fuel in the car for the stewards? So he's been punished for stopping the car on the track after qualifying then?

The rules say you must return to the pits under your own power with enough for a 1l sample.

The rule came after Canada 2010 when Lewis stopped for the exact same reason - although at the time there was nothing saying it wasnt allowed.

[TJ]

And I know he isnt the everyones favourite, but grabbing Di Resta and then Webber (I think its Webbs) is pretty good.

Lewis has always been awesome at staying in the dirty air of another driver.

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[POH73]

Just FYI did anyone know Hamilton had 1.3L of fuel in the car for the stewards? So he's been punished for stopping the car on the track after qualifying then?

I saw it in the interview I think with Martin Whitmarsh where the fuel consumption per lap was ~2 litres and if he did make it back to the pits it would've been less than the required amount.

[Jazza]

The thing I love most about him is that he constantly passes in places nobody else does!

[shane]

Barely remember that now, time to start downloading some old races i think. Are there many torrents floating around?
I don't have much of the later stuff but i've gathered every race from 1981 to 1994 on a hard drive. It takes a bit of searching and some of the quality is shithouse as you'd imagine as most is converted from old VHS.

[jaybee]

farking hell that's a decent collection!!

[TheChad]

I don't have much of the later stuff but i've gathered every race from 1981 to 1994 on a hard drive. It takes a bit of searching and some of the quality is shithouse as you'd imagine as most is converted from old VHS.

wow... decent indeed!

how many gigs is it?

[shane]

wow... decent indeed!

how many gigs is it?
187 gig

[anton]

187 gig

so when can i organise to come over and leech it

[Kaido]

120gigs and i have 1988,89,90,91,92,94 (half season), and 99

[shane]

so when can i organise to come over and leech it
When i'm home for a few days i'll put them on a portable hard drive and if any one wants to copy them they can pass it around. Between us all we should be able to put together all seasons.

[jaybee]

Your a champion mate!

[Brockas]

*You're.

But +1.

Would love some of those old seasons!!


A QANTAS 747 uses 340,000+ litres of fuel going from Perth to London and return. (12 litres per km x 14,500km each way)

The F1 grid uses:

500 litres (being generous) for Practice, Quali, Race
x 24 cars
x 20 races in the season

Fuel consumption is really a moot point.
Fuel consumption is one of those points where the manufacturers of engines can pass on the technologies to their road cars. F1 likes to brag about this.

Has nothing to do with the actual consumption during the race, as the transport of equipment from 1 round uses more fuel than the whole years racing.

[Brockas]

LOL @ F1 slate...


Michael Schumacher
Sorry about that Frank, I saw a Brazilian in a Williams and I couldn't help myself, by the time I realised it wasn't Rubens we were in the gravel.

[shane]

Some of those old races are just insane, 91 Australian race when it was pissing down they had 5 cars that had aquaplaned into the wall on the main strait with tow trucks and medical cars parked on the track and they keep the race going with zero viability and cars racing past at 150mph. Senna and Mansel were going at it hard at the front until Mansell binned it. The drivers back then had some big balls.

[fourseven]

Start of Q3 kek!

http://www.mclaren.com/_includes/images/slir/w640-h360//_includes/uploads/4965.jpg

http://s7.directupload.net/images/120508/obdqnxxl.jpg

[ELUSIV]

http://www.f1complete.com/content/view/11721/510/

So happy Kimi is back!

[Brockas]

http://www.f1complete.com/content/view/11721/510/

So happy Kimi is back!
That compilation can be summed up with 1 phrase:

"And not a single fuck was given."

[fourseven]

How on earth did everyone miss this?

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/414978_10150846082323576_690133575_10075778_188597 1482_o.jpg

[Bomber]

Mismatched tyres?

[Autopilot]

Mismatched tyres?

Not sure if serious, Vettel in seventh but still leader.

[anton]

i thought he rubber stamped another car and the yellow wore off , i mean the rim on the back is bent...

[TheChad]

I saw the differences in tyre colour and was trying to work it out. Just assumed the colour rubbed off or something. Since no mention from officials or commentators I just assumed that. The BBC timing fucked up a few times in the race too.

[fourseven]

Fred having a bit of fun.

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[TJ]

http://zipmeme.com/uploads/generated/g133755516488979454.jpg

[fourseven]

http://i.imgur.com/hV7HG.jpg

[Autopilot]

https://p.twimg.com/As__xwmCAAIaEN7.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/mJcSj.gif

[[Jacek]]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-DMe2hEA9Q&list=PL80503D0592672FCC&index=1&feature=plcp

[Jazza]

http://zipmeme.com/uploads/generated/g133755516488979454.jpg

LOL!

[POH73]

Lovin the F1 Memes

http://zipmeme.com/uploads/generated/g1337554572151055422.jpg

http://ct.fra.bz/ol/fz/sw/i57/5/5/20/frabz-does-the-vettel-finger-still-worshipped-by-his-fans-686dfa.jpg

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/20674012.jpg

http://zipmeme.com/uploads/generated/g1337588352901374855.jpg

[TheChad]

look at the heels he's rocking too!

[Jazza]

Hahahhahahahah that safety car one works so well and fcks you so well depending on the situation every time!

[Buckets]

FORMULA One Group, the motor racing franchise owned by private equity firm CVC Capital Partners Ltd., has received the go-ahead from the Singapore Exchange for a US$2.5 billion ($2.52bn) initial public offering ahead of a listing next month, people familiar with the situation say.

In what could be the city-state's first high profile overseas listing in more than a year, Formula One is set to begin a pre-marketing process "very soon", the people said, with order-taking in international roadshows slated for the second week of June, and listing scheduled for the last week of that month.
I'd rather buy share in F1 than Facebook !

[TJ]

FP1 in 2 days, Monaco....

http://i.imgur.com/15WgM.gif

[fourseven]

Nicholas Hamilton?

[TJ]

Looks more like Anthony doesnt it

[POH73]

FP1 in 2 days, Monaco....

Looking to fwd to this BIG TIME!


Nicholas Hamilton?
Hahaha, could well be..... or The Monaco Master's little known troll brother Lol

[manna_85]

Did that antilag Euro trip go ahead? I just arrived in Monaco out 1 hr ago, bumped into the Mercedes & Marussia Teams at the train station. Can not wait for this shit!

[Tocchi]

so jealous ! have fun :)

[jaybee]

fucking bastard!

[[Jacek]]

Sure Mercedes didn't bump into YOU?
http://cdn-5.motorsport.com/static/img/mgl/1400000/1400000/1400000/1400400/1400455/s1_1.jpg

[manna_85]

^^hahaha

[Brockas]

Did that antilag Euro trip go ahead? I just arrived in Monaco out 1 hr ago, bumped into the Mercedes & Marussia Teams at the train station. Can not wait for this shit!

I believe there are 4 antilaggers over there at the moment doing trips similar to the tour that we organised for them, however the group booking won't go ahead until next year.

[jaybee]

might have to start saving for that i think.

[manna_85]

I believe there are 4 antilaggers over there at the moment doing trips similar to the tour that we organised for them, however the group booking won't go ahead until next year.

If you include me and my mates then there are 7 antilaggers here :)

Bumped into this fella on my track walk & also a few misc shots. Bring on FP1!
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[Brockas]

oh you bastard! That is awesome!

I will be driving through that tunnel in 6 weeks time... can't wait.

[TJ]

I hate you both right now :(

[manna_85]

Turn that frown upside down :) there is always next year TJ

Ok this is my last photo. 1 of 8 the VIP suits i managed to score for the weekend. This is the Churchill Suit at the Hotel De Paris. I was severely under dressed for this place......

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[Buckets]

Hotel De Paris: Baller !

[Skitzo]

might have to start saving for that i think.

+1. Just applied for BHP job. Fingers crossed!

[Brockas]

Ok this is my last photo. 1 of 8 the VIP suits i managed to score for the weekend. This is the Churchill Suit at the Hotel De Paris. I was severely under dressed for this place......

Wait wait wait.... you're actually staying in that Churchill suite or you just got access to it????

It's $11,000 EURO a night!!!!!!

http://www.hoteldeparismontecarlo.com/luxury-rooms-suites/diamond-suites/diamond-suite-winston-churchill/

[MGR]

Wait wait wait.... you're actually staying in that Churchill suite or you just got access to it????

It's $11,000 EURO a night!!!!!!

http://www.hoteldeparismontecarlo.com/luxury-rooms-suites/diamond-suites/diamond-suite-winston-churchill/

*From €11k per night.

How much do you reckon for per night for GP weekend?

[TJ]

+1. Just applied for BHP job. Fingers crossed!

*emails andy klita about traitor*

[esky]

Wait wait wait.... you're actually staying in that Churchill suite or you just got access to it????

It's $11,000 EURO a night!!!!!!

http://www.hoteldeparismontecarlo.com/luxury-rooms-suites/diamond-suites/diamond-suite-winston-churchill/

lol, the entire ceiling is a mirror.

[Voot]

Bumped into Lotus and Redbull team in Nice, getting into their people movers on the way to Monaco yesterday, our hotel is right next door to where some of the team is staying, wil upload pictures of Fri/Sat/Sun!!

[V70R]

Just watched a sweet "Inside F1 Monaco 2012" show.
Will put it on my server for someone to download or put on their youtube.

Its current and looks at the history of Monaco F1 and some topics of Formula One racing:
Monaco accommodation, steering wheel, Sergio Perez, tyres and how much of a cnt other antilaggers are to be there right now.

Not a bad 25 mins.

addy here:
Inside.F1.2012.Monaco.avi (http://www.atpimage.com/random/Inside.F1.2012.Monaco.avi)

[Brockas]

and how much of a cnt Brockas is to be there right now.
LOL I'm not there right now, AL tour going ahead for 2013 instead.

I'm going there in about 6 weeks.

[V70R]

^^ sorry mate already fixed. brain fade typo

[manna_85]

Wait wait wait.... you're actually staying in that Churchill suite or you just got access to it????

It's $11,000 EURO a night!!!!!!

http://www.hoteldeparismontecarlo.com/luxury-rooms-suites/diamond-suites/diamond-suite-winston-churchill/

Fuck God no. Just access to it. Well Not till Saturday anyways cause the CEO of UBS had a function there today.

[TJ]

Alonso on Lewis to Marca (Spanish News)

"No creo que ningún piloto destaque este año, quizás sí un monoplaza. Aunque si tengo que elegir uno, Lewis es al único al que miro de una forma diferente porque, tenga una máquina fuerte, media o no tanto, siempre da algo más", añade.


"I don't think any driver will stand out this year, maybe a car. Although if I have to chose one, Lewis is the only one I look in a different way because, no matter if he have a strong car or not, he always delivers something extra (more)".


Nice words of respect.

[Buckets]

More = crash's and lip drops ?

I shouldn't pay out on a Mclaren driver given I follow them but I still don't rate Lewis as highly as his fanboi's do.

[TJ]

Todays fact -

Its been 3 years since Jenson Button had a pole in F1.

Not bad considering he has been driving a Brawn and McLaren in that time.

[bjohnson]

Alonso on Lewis to Marca (Spanish News)

"No creo que ningún piloto destaque este año, quizás sí un monoplaza. Aunque si tengo que elegir uno, Lewis es al único al que miro de una forma diferente porque, tenga una máquina fuerte, media o no tanto, siempre da algo más", añade.


"I don't think any driver will stand out this year, maybe a car. Although if I have to chose one, Lewis is the only one I look in a different way because, no matter if he have a strong car or not, he always delivers something extra (more)".


Nice words of respect.

Funny because that describes Alonso perfectly.

[[Jacek]]

Yeah thats what I was thinking, hes the one that always pulls something out of nothing

[Jazza]

I think they're both in a different class to the rest of the field and both seem to rate each other highly even after their spat as team mates.

[TheChad]

What we the predictions for sunday, surely if Hamilton does well enough tomorrow he's got to be in with a chance for the win...

...provided the pit crew doesn't lose him a place or two.

Would love to see Kimi make it 6 from 6 at 6 different teams... 666.

Also, rainy start to the weekend on thurs, what's the weather like over there now? Monaco in the rain would be nuts, especially with a Senna on the grid in a rapidly improving car... We can dream...

[fourseven]

Lewis is favourite with Fred close behind and then Kimi. Webber's paying $13 so from a betting point of view he might not be a bad choice.

I think we'll see Lewis' first big fuck up this weekend. I reckon we'll see a Fred or Vettel victory.

[shane]

Also, rainy start to the weekend on thurs, what's the weather like over there now? Monaco in the rain would be nuts, especially with a Senna on the grid in a rapidly improving car... We can dream...

http://www.myweather2.com/Motor-Racing/Monaco/Monaco-Circuit.aspx

Looks like constant rain for the next two days, hope the whole race isn't spent behind the safety car.

[TJ]

Wow FP3 just went nuts!

Di Resta crashes, Pastor rams another car then crashes!

[Brockas]

Pretty awesome session. Bulk blocking occurring too. pingpingpingpings raging.

[jaybee]

Qualifying is going to be gooooood, hopefully the rain holds off.

[Adr3naL1N]

pumped for this!

[TJ]

10 spot penalty for Pastor

[TJ]

http://f1zoom.co.cc/?year=2012&race=monaco&img=1438&full=1

What a brilliant pic :D

[Buckets]

The McLaren's look bloody awesome.

[fourseven]

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/554399_10150812087295493_2110235834_n.jpg

[TJ]

Perez relives 2011

[Buckets]

Who let Hamilton become an Aussie ?

[fourseven]

Noongar for sure.

[Wrexter]

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/554399_10150812087295493_2110235834_n.jpg

The fuck?

N Rosberg is 1st and 5th, British and Venezueland and driving for Lotus.

Massa is French

Vettel is Brazillian

[Adr3naL1N]

Vergne crashes now1 that troublesome bumo out the tunnel still playing havoc

[MGR]

C'arn Massa!

[TJ]

Insane q2!!!

Button!

[satch]

Fucking Massa 1:14...

[TJ]

If Massa gets pole and wins the world of F1 will implode

[satch]

not a massa fan, but after all the poor bastard has been through will not begrudge him

[satch]

Schumi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The master is back

[TJ]

Wow!

Old man Mikey still got game!!!!

[Adr3naL1N]

Schuuuiiiii!! wow, grid drop!!!


WEBBER FTW!!!

[fourseven]

Webber's paying $13 so from a betting point of view he might not be a bad choice.

Glad I put some money on him now.

Poor Schumi.

PS. Monaco Master? Michael Shumacher, all the fucking way. Senna aint got shit.

[Buckets]

What a lap from Schumacher !

[Lonewolf]

great drive from mark and schui, have to feel for him, still has some serious skill/balls.

[Adr3naL1N]

Vettel struggling big time while webber cruising.

What a great qualifying! best of the year so far.

[ALEX.]

Great to see Mark on the front row. I really hope he can keep it up the front tomorrow.
Great job by Shuey too. You can't believe someone over 40 years old is qualifying at the top of the pack at Monaco!!

[Adr3naL1N]

if webber can go on to win that'll be 6 from 6.

[POH73]

Very good final laps and wasn't expecting that - alas Schumi's penalty, he'd be just about impossible to pass around Monaco too. Great lap from Mark and most importantly soundly beat his team mate!

Out of nowhere as far as I'm concerned, wow!

[TJ]

Glad I put some money on him now.

Poor Schumi.

PS. Monaco Master? Michael Shumacher, all the fucking way. Senna aint got shit.

Yeah smashing Prost by 1.7 seconds is shit xoxo

[fourseven]

http://cdn.buzznet.com/assets/users16/xris/default/hook-line-sinker--large-msg-120657862885.jpg

xoxo

[TJ]

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/kXszF6m_ew8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

WOW!!!!!

[TJ]

and this!!!!

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[Sully]

Hoooooooley shiit! His errant wheel almost took someone out as well.
It's amazing how well the catch fencing contained the car, shit must be strong.
Quite the pants browning for all involved.

[manna_85]

Sorry 6th actually Mikey boy. Place went wild before everyone remembered the grid penalty.

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[fourseven]

He can enjoy his record of 69 poles until 1pm tomorrow in Monaco. Still think it's a joke how they handle it all.

[Sully]

Things is, it doesn't matter that he's actually starting from 6th, the point is that he's still got the speed to put it on pole.
Any predictions for the race tomorrow? I've got no bloody idea what's going to happen!

[Buckets]

I predict some crashes.

[Torquen]

...Hopefully Vettel.

[Brockas]

Things is, it doesn't matter that he's actually starting from 6th, the point is that he's still got the speed to put it on pole.
Well, last week the Williams had the pace for pole.
The McLarens, Lotus, RBR, Ferrari and Sauber all have the pace for pole.

It's a bloody close season.

[iluv2moan]

can someone explain how come maldonado got a 10 grid penalty for 'causeing an accident' yet schumacher only gets 5 for driving straight into the back of senna? surely same same

[Kaido]

can someone explain how come maldonado got a 10 grid penalty for 'causeing an accident' yet schumacher only gets 5 for driving straight into the back of senna? surely same same

add to that he now has another 5 place drop due to changing his gbox

[Jazza]

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/kXszF6m_ew8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

WOW!!!!!

Why the fck is he trying to hold people off without a rear wing? He must get a massive penalty for that!!! Seriously dangerous..

[fourseven]

can someone explain how come maldonado got a 10 grid penalty for 'causeing an accident' yet schumacher only gets 5 for driving straight into the back of senna? surely same same

Different stewards, different circumstances.

[fourseven]

A bizarre situation has developed overnight at Monaco where a 60- ton crane is stuck at the Anthony Noghes corner just before the start finish straight with a seized wheel bearing. The Automobile Club is trying to find a way to remove the crane as quickly as possible.

Could be a race start delay.

[TJ]

can someone explain how come maldonado got a 10 grid penalty for 'causeing an accident' yet schumacher only gets 5 for driving straight into the back of senna? surely same same

Pastor intentionally aimed for Perez, Michaels was deemed to be under racing circumstances even if silly

[TJ]

NobleF1
It appears #cranegate is over. Porsche formation lap scheduled for 10am - so just a 15 minute delay. Unless there is now a crane chicane
8:43 AM - 27 May 12

[Fukushima]

Keen for crane chicane

What time is this on for those playing at home?

[fourseven]

8pm

[fourseven]

Rumors are that Vettel has signed a pre-agreement with Ferrari for 2014 based on competitiveness, with Webber moving to Ferrari next year for 1 year only as a door to retirement.

[Autopilot]

Everyone's moving to Ferrari

[fourseven]

Well someone's moving to Ferrari because Massa is definitely out at the end of the season unless he goes onto win the WDC!

Ferrari have picked up Mercedes aero man Loic Bigois by the looks.

[ClevoCapri]

Check out the GT1 cars on foxtel before f1. If your into that thing. I think its awsome racing!

[TJ]

Jon Noble ‏@NobleF1
Lots of talk in the paddock among teams this morning about Red Bull Racing's floor design. Am doing some digging

QUOTE
Jennie Gow ‏@JennieGow
Could be a protest looming after the race as the Red Bull floor comes under scrutiny from the other teams. Interesting times ahead #F1
Retweeted by Craig Scarborough

QUOTE
Andrew Benson ‏@andrewbensonf1
Will someone chance a one-stop? Plus Mercedes, Ferrari and McLaren apparently unhappy about Red Bull floor. Impending protest? #BBCF1

[fourseven]

Ian Parkes
‏@ianparkesf1
Had a chat with an F1 insider who feels protest of Red Bull floor will go ahead today. Take pick from McLaren, Merc or Ferrari to protest.

Not looking good for RBR.

[fourseven]

http://p.twimg.com/At5S_ziCAAEVEzL.jpg


Other teams believe Red Bull have a hole on their floor in front of rear tyre that is illegally situated.

Also, McLaren have copied Mercedes' wheelnut-in-rim system as they try to eliminate pitstop problems. Now all they need is a fuel in tank solution kek!

http://p.twimg.com/Atl3ifECMAA1D4Y.jpg

[TJ]

F1 radar update 13:26 CEST: Showers making it over the Alps and heading slowly towards #Monaco. Showers at mid-distance if this continues

[DISTRBD]

Crash car after race , let them inspect floor pan then :P

[POH73]

McLaren fuel system issue solved

http://www.proquip.com.au/Images/Jerry%20Can%20Main%20Page/Specialty%20Can%20Page/0985.jpg

[anton]

bout time webber got a start right

[fourseven]

Pastor Maldonado, 1 race wonder.

[esky]

massa looks racey

[fourseven]

Is it Massa doing well or Fred doing shit? Where the fuck is his pace?!

[fourseven]

Massa asked why Fernando was so slow. Ferrari replied "he's saving tyres, you should too.

KEK!

[esky]

lol, fernando trolling hard

[Frenchy]

Does anyone use the oneHD app?

[anton]

ahaah ill give that one to vettel, slammed that door nicely

[Lonewolf]

i think the only things being dropped from the pit boards lewis is your running position!*

*besides his lip

[Adr3naL1N]

lol hamilton complaining about not being updated about vettel

[Torquen]

Com'n Mark!

[Adr3naL1N]

webber looks gone! :(

[ALEX.]

What an amazing closing laps!! Top 5 so close; rain on the way; webber with everything to lose....

[fourseven]

LOL at Vergne, 10 seconds a lap slower on intermediates KEK!

Boring race overall. Alonso/Vettel driver of the day.

[Adr3naL1N]

YEEEES WEBBBEEEER!!!!!

Big fuck up by vergne!

[ELUSIV]

Congrats to Webber. But to be honest if it was any other track he would have been like 5th or worse. I know i'll cop some hate for saying this but...I appreciate the history/prestige behind Monaco but it seriously is one of the most boring races of every season and thank f*ck it's over for another year :)

*flamesuit*

[Autopilot]

Six from six, at this rate kartikayan might win in brazil

[Torquen]

Deffs a boring race.

[fourseven]

It's a shame that Monaco always used to be exciting and dangerous. Now with the manipulation of races, its boring as fucking bat shit.

[Buckets]

Dull race but well done Webber.

[Lump]

Deffs a boring race.

^agreed, very watchable with an aussie in the lead tho

[TJ]

Dull race but well done Webber.

Tell that shitpingpingpingping you go for in McLaren to step his game up

[TheChad]

Kind of annoying to be watching the leaders and hear of caterhams etc going 2 seconds faster.

Not going well for Ricciardo this season.

[Buckets]

Tell that shitpingpingpingping you go for in McLaren to step his game up

Yep very disappointed with McLaren and Jenson's performance. Lewis did well but still the team is not doing either of the drivers justice at the moment. I'm glad I bought some RBR & Ferrari gear while I was in Melbourne...

[jaybee]

excellent drive from webber, a well deserved win!

boring or not i think it was a great race, looking forward to monaco next year already.

[Adr3naL1N]

why did DR retire? i missed the reason.

[POH73]

^agreed, very watchable with an aussie in the lead tho

^^ THIS in a nutshell

[TJ]

https://p.twimg.com/At6KnM6CEAAQy9c.jpg:large

amazing!!

[fourseven]

Anyone seen Wrexter lately?

[satch]

Anyone seen Wrexter lately?

Fucking LOL, must of slit his wrists after race two.

Agreed on boring as bat shit, take out refuelling and most strategy options to jump slow people out the door..

[TheChad]

No protest from the other teams