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TJ
23-11-2011, 09:06 PM
Posted on another forum I am on, full of your typical car loving blokey bloke. It was only the general responses that made me have a look myself

This is an interview on tripple m over east on Monday - http://austereo.castmetrix.net/podcast/378302368699188595/1/TheGrillTeamPodcast485.mp3

From there, linked to this blog.

http://howthelightgetsin.net/

Cliffnotes -

Poor bloke has bowel cancer
Made a video for his mrs and kids with hugh jackman and nz pm
Found out recently he has weeks to live
Oprah gives him 250k
Triple M interviews him
Makes it to his sons 5th birthday

Have a read. Really reminds you how lucky we are to have what we do in life for the most part.

And also a timely reminder whilst in the middle of Movember - sure its not prostate cancer, but its cancer the same.

Risk10k
23-11-2011, 09:29 PM
I spent 6 weeks waiting to find out if I had cancer. Its a fucking terrifying when you have other people involved in your life, I was scared to talk about it. I'd like to think I was a strong person, there isn't one single person alive that can hear the words 'you have cancer' and stand tall knowing it.


When I hear stories like the above, I wish I could do something for people suffering.

crabman
23-11-2011, 10:01 PM
A guy at another branch at work got diagnosed not long ago with a form of cancer, missus pregnant. Pretty sure he never made it to see his young one born. Makes you feel pretty lucky. Ever since I heard about this I have been hell paranoid about my health, trying to do something about those 'little things' I always ignore. Random stabbing pains that stop me from breathing in etc.

Being a manly man aint worth it if it lets something go until its too late.

DanWA
23-11-2011, 10:10 PM
just lost my dad to cancer in august, it fucking sucks

has opened my eyes in a big way... one thing being the cancer council are a bunch of pingpingpingpings

Gladio
23-11-2011, 10:14 PM
My aunt's got cancer, she is worse each time I see her. They cant even give a time on how long she has its that bad.... These sorta things effect people sure, but when it's someone you know then it REALLY opens your eyes up.

Denver
23-11-2011, 10:24 PM
Have had a very close friend of mine and someone i consider a mentor in my life recently beat cancer, seeing the toll it took on him beating it was scary, and i hope it never comes back..

Also lost a mate i worked with to it, 3 weeks older than me, he passed away at the start of 09, he didn't make it to 32, he only discovered in august 08 he had cancer after he cracked a rib with a coughing fit while getting over a bout of pneumonia, which he got off one of the family who all got it from his old boy..

Went through chemo, seemed to be getting over it, as part of the company chrissy bash, the bus went past his place to see him as we all had worked with him and regurally spoke to him to see how he was, and aside from having no hair, he looked like he was comming good..

His dad rang me at 5 am early early in january barely a few weeks after we'd seen him to tell me he had passed, i was going to see him that very day as his old boy said to me it wasn't looking good..

Cancer is a shit of a disease, It takes some truly good people away, my mate was one of them, one of the most genuine down to earth guys ive known..

Buckets
23-11-2011, 10:24 PM
Cancer is a pingpingpingping. My thoughts go to those people currently fighting it.

Grug
23-11-2011, 10:36 PM
Friend I've known since pre-primary lost his older brother to Cancer. He was like a brother to me and my family and it hit everyone hard.

Adr3naL1N
23-11-2011, 10:39 PM
my dads beaten cancer twice....very lucky!

Macca
23-11-2011, 11:09 PM
cancer....meh fuck you im still beating you

zxz
24-11-2011, 05:16 AM
workmates wife got diagnosed with cancer and given 3 months to live... she died last week. only made it 3 days after the diagnosis :(

shit like that is bulk scary

Nickevox
24-11-2011, 05:21 AM
Reading that brings back bad memories, something that really fucks with your mind.

Thoughts go out to all that have it/beaten it.

shifted
24-11-2011, 06:12 AM
Farrrk... know some people who have beaten it, and then know some people who have lost loved ones or their own battles to it, and people who are facing the challenges now through family or friends..... and stuff like this really makes you sit and wonder where you are going in life. I try to appreciate everything and be grateful for everything regardless of the outcome - seeing the people who have been affected by it move on with strength is a real eye opener.

Thoughts go out to those affected.

BLACK HULK
24-11-2011, 06:22 AM
My cousin fought leukemia for nearly 13 years, went into a few comas and when the doctor's said he wouldn't pull through, that little fucker did. Was in remission for a few years, then got thyroid cancer. Thankfully he's one tough and lucky kid, he's still alive today.

crabman
24-11-2011, 06:48 AM
workmates wife got diagnosed with cancer and given 3 months to live... she died last week. only made it 3 days after the diagnosis :(

shit like that is bulk scary

That is very scary. What sort of cancer? How did she know something was up and go get it checked it out?

DanWA
24-11-2011, 07:12 AM
My old man went the painful way... fighting until the end...

Doctor fucked up... then it was too late, he still battled it and every other alternative treatment he could get but it slowly took the fight out of him, i only moved to Collie to be around him and he fought it for 4 years right until the last day.

Melanoma is an angry pingpingpingping, get yourselves checked regularly.

shifted
24-11-2011, 07:27 AM
My old man went the painful way... fighting until the end...

Doctor fucked up... then it was too late, he still battled it and every other alternative treatment he could get but it slowly took the fight out of him, i only moved to Collie to be around him and he fought it for 4 years right until the last day.

Melanoma is an angry pingpingpingping, get yourselves checked regularly.

Reading that just scared the fuck out of me... I've been meaning to cut some moles out for ages... time for check up!

Condolences for your loss, mate.

Adr3naL1N
24-11-2011, 09:52 AM
workmates wife got diagnosed with cancer and given 3 months to live... she died last week. only made it 3 days after the diagnosis :(

shit like that is bulk scary

actually one of my bosses (the guy that orginally hired me) but now moved up in the company and relocated to melb lost is wife to cancer in 2007, i met her a few times. At the time they had a baby, would of been maybe abit over 1 year old when she died. Very very tough!

Madhav
24-11-2011, 10:41 AM
Don't get me started on Cancer. One of the main problems I think is that people are brainwashed into thinking that chemo, radiation or surgery is only effective treatment with most cancers. This is simply not true. In most cases it is Palliative Care, not curative. Now a lot of people will say bullshit, where's the proof. Well I can tell you the proof is there, you just need to look. Most people don't though, they just take the treatment advice of their GP and then oncologist blindly as gospel without second thought. This is VERY sad....

When it comes to evaluating the benefits of any treatment, whether curative or palliative, it is important to understand the difference between relative or absolute benefits. For example, a treatment that reduces a risk of dying from 4% to 2% may be expressed as a relative reduction in risk of 50%, as it halves the risk of dying and sounds good, or, an absolute reduction in risk of 2%, as it reduces the risk of dying by 2% which does not sound like much.

Prognosis is best assessed using statistics rather than making a statement such as “you have 3 months to live”. A method for this is to answer the following questions. Ask these to your GP or Oncologist when he or she suggests a treatment plan for you!!!

Q1. If 100 people had no treatment

ﰀ How many would be alive after 1 year and what would their health be like?
ﰀ How many would be alive after 5 years and what would their health be like?

Q2. If 100 people had this treatment

ﰀ How many would be alive after 1 year and what would their health be like?
ﰀ How many would be alive after 5 years and what would their health be like?

Q3. If 100 people had this treatment

ﰀ What side effects are possible and how many people would have them?

Q4. What impact will my own responses have?

ﰀ What can I do to help myself?
ﰀ What will my state of mind be like?
- fear and loathing, or gratefully embracing
- how committed will I be to this treatment?
ﰀ What are my support systems like?
- personal
- external

Once these questions are answered (with the best quality information available) then the equation of pluses and minuses can be discussed, balanced, considered, contemplated and an informed decision made.

For more info go here: http://iangawler.com/research/Cancer-lifestyle-and-chemotherapy-Ian-Gawler.pdf

And then watch these:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9BoNMw-iSk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4DOQ6Xhqss

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv3fiCbPrhc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lXgnb6tdBY

Full length versions below or also all of them are available on piratebay.:

http://freeviewdocumentaries.com/2010/09/06/healing-cancer-from-inside-out/

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/food-matters/

http://deditv.com/play.php?v=1594aa5f1c8cc4e53932aa015ce0223d

ReaperSS
24-11-2011, 10:55 AM
Lost my pop to cancer and seen what he went through till the end. WW2 aint got nothing on he suffering of cancer.
I recently did a photoshoot free to a family. The lady ha only days to live. It was so bloody sad. Even when i finished the pics they were offering me money for the time and ffort. NO WAY in the world could i accept it. I was a pleasure to help in such a small way. Least they will have great pics to treasure

millzy_88
24-11-2011, 01:09 PM
Ok so eating processed food is bad, I agree. But what is ok to eat? So many people telling you what you shouldn't be doing, not many telling you what you should.

Nickevox
24-11-2011, 01:11 PM
Ok so eating processed food is bad, I agree. But what is ok to eat? So many people telling you what you shouldn't be doing, not many telling you what you should.

I recall when my bro went through it, we changed his diet to be all non processed food just organic, then the tests changed and were all good, then went bad again.. so eating healthy didn't change much.

DanWA
24-11-2011, 01:14 PM
Yeah like above, my dad went full organic diet and heaps of alternative medicines etc, he went through LOTS of money fighting it but it slowly beat him down. Cancer Council are pieces of shit.

He was told 6 months and battled it 4 years so it must work

mattyb89
24-11-2011, 02:50 PM
my dealings with cancer are

my granddad lost his life to cancer of the throat said he would last 3 months and he passed away 2 1/2 years later

my mum lost her best friend to breast cancer she beat it twice but the 3rd time it was to much. when my mum was at the hospital the day she died she went into her room bathroom and seen her jewelry. one of the item was a gold nugget that she found on the side of a track when they were both nurses in the goldfields she allways had it on her mum called it her power to keep going through it all. when mum seen it she walked out to go put it back on her she had passed away she just didnt want to go on for a 3rd time

and my nana passed away to through cancer they said it was passive smoking that caused it from my granddad. she only lasted 4monthes after being diagnosed she was going down hill slowly one day my mum came to me and said she need to talk to me about nana she was not doing to good they had trouble waking her up this morning. she told me it is not looking good i was only 14 at the time and i though aww shit this is not good but told my self she is strong she will get through it. when i was at the hospital i was walking around and herd my mum talking to a doctor and some head nurse and caught the end of the conversation she was saying that it was not good enough that the duty nurse had caused this and that they both knew this when i herd this i knew someone had fucked something up because my mum had been a nurse for 25years at that point. sure enough something had gone wrong the nurse who was ment to be looking after my nana got snowed under on her rounds but wouldnt ask for help at this stage the drugs they had her on were strong and needed a counter drug to pull her out of them while she sleeped. well she got them over and hour late and she never recoverd i never got to properly say goodbye to her she just sliped away

esky
24-11-2011, 03:12 PM
Madhav you're a fucking cock.

TJ
24-11-2011, 04:03 PM
Lost my pop to cancer and seen what he went through till the end. WW2 aint got nothing on he suffering of cancer.
I recently did a photoshoot free to a family. The lady ha only days to live. It was so bloody sad. Even when i finished the pics they were offering me money for the time and ffort. NO WAY in the world could i accept it. I was a pleasure to help in such a small way. Least they will have great pics to treasure

Respect Marc.

Tre-Cool
24-11-2011, 04:53 PM
Madhav you're a fucking cock.

come on now, at least have a rebuttal on his post.

*just playing devil's advocate here*

P100_Ute
24-11-2011, 09:18 PM
My old man went the painful way... fighting until the end...

Doctor fucked up... then it was too late, he still battled it and every other alternative treatment he could get but it slowly took the fight out of him, i only moved to Collie to be around him and he fought it for 4 years right until the last day.

Melanoma is an angry pingpingpingping, get yourselves checked regularly.

My dad has bowel cancer. but doesnt want to get treated in hospital for it due to him having a hernia for fuk noes how many years and apparently its pretty big and the doctors have to remove that before the cancer and he's worried if he gets operated on he'll die on the table. So he's been on the herbal remedy shit. few visits overseas to some witchdoctor.

he got a skin cancer taken out of his face about a year ago. and its like they just used a big spoon.. one side of his face is just caved in and it looks pretty full on. the amount of people who would stare at him at the shops is pretty full on also. must be hard on him going out places knowing that people are going to be looking at him all the time..

Dunno how long he has to live tho. but got diagnosed with bowel cancer back in 2005/2006 and seams to be alright.. altho he wouldnt tell ya if he was really hurting anyhow so its hard to know.

Steppo_GT
24-11-2011, 09:32 PM
We lost grandad (my dads dad) to a brain tumour 12 years ago. He died pretty much 2 and a half months from being diagnosed.

Then 2 years later my other grandad (my mums dad) was diagnosed with bowel cancer got told 3 months to live but luckily got through it and is still strong as an ox 9 years on.

BIGS
28-11-2011, 12:23 AM
Lost my dad last year to cancer who was a full time carer for my mother who is impaired from a car accident... I can tell you now... Things such as career, money, material possessions just don't seem half as important as they once seemed to be. I no longer sweat the small stuff.

I cannot believe what a scourge cancer is!!