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VRX
20-11-2011, 12:08 AM
http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western-australia/trial-of-first-fixed-freeway-speed-camera/story-e6frg14l-1226199992937


POLICE will install WA's first fixed freeway speed camera on Mitchell Freeway as they prepare for a Christmas-New Year road blitz.

Senior officers this week would not disclose where on the 30km northern freeway it would be placed, or whether it would be on northbound or southbound lanes.

But Acting Police Minister John Day said more fixed camera locations would be rolled out if the trial was a success.

WA Police have bought several German-made metal cabinets to house permanent speed cameras. For now, just one of them will be fitted out, as part of a trial starting next month.

Mr Day said no new cameras had been bought; instead, one of the 23 existing demountable cameras would be installed in the cabinet during the trial.

"Speed cameras operate on freeway roadsides already, either in vehicles or on tripods, and this is simply another method of deployment intended to improve road safety," Mr Day said.

He said signs warning of the camera's position would also be installed, even though it was not required by legislation.

Monash University road safety researcher Max Cameron has suggested previously that point-to-point speed cameras to target speeding drivers over long stretches should be installed on more than 3000km of WA's roads, including sections of the Kwinana and Mitchell freeways.

Acting Assistant Commissioner for specialist enforcement and operations Michelle Fyfe said the effectiveness of the fixed freeway speed camera would be assessed before a decision was made to install more of them.

"This trial is a direct result of research conducted specifically on Perth roads," Mrs Fyfe said.

She would not say how many cabinets had been bought.

Opposition police spokeswoman Margaret Quirk cautiously welcomed the fixed freeway cameras, but questioned whether the camera locations were based at problem areas and if they would improve road safety.

"It's clear there's a speeding problem on freeways, but whether that translates to fatalities and serious injuries will be borne out in the results of the trial," she said.

RAC head of member advocacy Matt Brown said a survey of members showed 59 per cent of motorists favoured fixed speed cameras on freeways, but acknowledged the devices needed to be part of a broader speed enforcement program across the entire state.

He said WA lagged behind other states in the introduction of fixed speed cameras, with fixed cameras already in place on freeways in most major cities across the eastern states.

WA Police Union president Russell Armstrong said the fixed freeway camera trial would complement additional motorcycle patrols on Perth's freeways to slow leadfoot drivers and save lives.

Macca
20-11-2011, 12:12 AM
oh well it will be clearly marked so if you continue to get caught where it is you are a fucking idiot...

Dibs on 80km zone

tinto
20-11-2011, 12:16 AM
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Lonewolf
20-11-2011, 12:17 AM
"road safety" LOL
better than a point to point camera, but i guess thats only a matter of time

HANS YOLO
20-11-2011, 02:05 AM
http://www.tiawilliams.net/blog/uploaded_images/vaseline-781187.jpg
http://www.glad.com.au/IgnitionSuite/uploads/images/S069863-3D.jpg

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pls explain?

Fukushima
20-11-2011, 02:11 AM
RAC head of member advocacy Matt Brown said a survey of members showed 59 per cent of motorists favoured fixed speed cameras on freeways, but acknowledged the devices needed to be part of a broader speed enforcement program across the entire state.

rac have turned into a bunch of fuckheads

did not renew this year

Charger
20-11-2011, 05:48 AM
Lol this should make the roads a far safer place.

Crispymk2
20-11-2011, 06:30 AM
Considering they are starting to turn off fixed cameras over East due to inaccuracy and ineffectiveness at reducing the road toll I'm going to call revenue raising on this one.

Endless
20-11-2011, 07:20 AM
pls explain?

pingpingpingping must be MacGyver

duste
20-11-2011, 07:25 AM
oh well it will be clearly marked so if you continue to get caught where it is you are a fucking idiot...

Dibs on 80km zone

If only they were all clearly visible. :(

Got stung by one along Manning Rd during exam period - it was so well hidden behind a row of bushes that you can actually see the top of the bushes in the photo lol.

But yes, you're right; if you know it's ALWAYS there, you're stupid if you get caught. I bet it'll be just before/after the 80km/h zone, just because.

Risk10k
20-11-2011, 07:39 AM
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No. Too fixable.
































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BOSS 290
20-11-2011, 07:50 AM
I commented under my alias Don. Nothing a couple of tyres wrapped around the camera doused in petrol can't fix.

Anyone notice how long it's taken for the equipment to be setup at Tonkin Hwy/Collier Road intersection. The posts have beeen standing for months now with no camera mounted. I think they're fucked at that intersection due to large trucks blocking the camera's vision.

mav_vlt
20-11-2011, 08:09 AM
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protecon
20-11-2011, 08:43 AM
oh well it will be clearly marked so if you continue to get caught where it is you are a fucking idiot...

Dibs on 80km zone

Yep for sure - it'll be some spot before Vincent St heading north.

Ryan1080
20-11-2011, 08:47 AM
Ah well, just another Alert POI to add to my satnav, together with the red light speed cameras. No biggie.

Point to point cams will be a pingpingpingping though.

Madhav
20-11-2011, 08:49 AM
This reply in the linked article sums it up.



there has been 4x the amount of speed cameras in operation in 2011 plus the the redlight/speed cameras (30x fixed) and 2x more yet to be made operational, and YET this years road toll is actually higher than 2010 and 2009 road toll. In the U.K in 2010 they removed many speed cameras and they have had there LOWEST road toll in "85 years " N.S.W also removed 38x speed cameras on the advice of the Auditor General as they were deemed to have NO influence on reducing the road toll.. So the road toll is actually higher despite the massive increase in speed/cash cameras!!! people of perth , you are being lied to about the effectiveness of speed/cash cameras..the Road safety council and Mr Rob Johnson need to be held accountable for this INCREASE in the road toll.

TurboHead
20-11-2011, 08:50 AM
+1 for 80k zone - north or south.... 2nd pick would be south bound within that twisty part between Cedric St and Hutton Street. Been a few bad "hoon" related crashes there in the past I think.

Alt_F4
20-11-2011, 09:13 AM
I'll be surprised if it doesn't turn up near or in the tunnel

mehow2g
20-11-2011, 09:14 AM
Looks like their investment isnt going too well.

Kaido
20-11-2011, 11:44 AM
Ah well, just another Alert POI to add to my satnav, together with the red light speed cameras. No biggie.

Point to point cams will be a pingpingpingping though.

Be good if they were like point 2 point camera in Italy if your under 100, it doesn't trigger so see the camera slow down to under 100 then back up above 130! Haha

Stealthed
20-11-2011, 12:03 PM
IF they were serious about curbing speed, they'd follow NSW's scheme and sign it from 1km back, 500m back and 250m back. Thus ensuring during that zone, no one will speed, which works very very well in NSW and you know they are targetting speed in the black spots...

But then again this is WA, what we like to do is call it Road Safety and hide the pingpingping... It's not about the money guys! /Troll face

dmwill
20-11-2011, 01:15 PM
rac have turned into a bunch of fuckheads

did not renew this year

This. Getting shitty at them.


Watching that RevHeads thing on ABC a few weeks back, the RACV/NRMA in the 1930's were pushing for better roads between Melbourne and Sydney so people could go faster!

Times have changed :(

Crispymk2
20-11-2011, 01:55 PM
Looking forward to having people slamming on their brakes and crawling past the cameras at 60kph in the freeway too

TJ
20-11-2011, 02:28 PM
Its going to be stuck on a pole that will stick out..

Once its up, spread the word, remember the slow down for it, continue. Np

Kaido
20-11-2011, 02:39 PM
i don't see the big deal i would rather fixed speed cameras then the ones we have now that are constantly moving around

lysdexia
20-11-2011, 03:04 PM
if you do the speed limit the location of the cameras won't really matter

Fukushima
20-11-2011, 09:26 PM
Freeway north

Behind cedric st foot bridge

dmwill
20-11-2011, 09:30 PM
Would explain the barrier and cement slab with cables hanging out of it.

protecon
20-11-2011, 10:41 PM
if you do the speed limit the location of the cameras won't really matter

The majority of people can actually operate a motor vehicle competently, and as such, drive at a speed they feel safe according to the road and the conditions they are driving in.
Enforcing blanket speed limits, especially a blatantly low limit on a section which is obviously safe to traverse at higher speeds, will catch people driving naturally and according to the flow of traffic around them, rather than staring at their speedometer and unnecessarily slowing...

MMM
20-11-2011, 11:04 PM
Great that's all we need is another spot on the freeway for cars to slow down at.

dmwill
21-11-2011, 12:15 AM
If it is at the spot where Mullmans says/I suspect, then you can just take the Karrinyup Road off ramp that crosses over with the Credic Street off ramp.

Sack
21-11-2011, 08:23 AM
Shouldn't bother many people seeing as though you can never really do the speed limit on the freeway with all the pingpingpingpings sitting in right lines doing 10 under or driving at the same speed as the car next to them. Oh, and forgot 3 quarters of Perth can't merge properly coming onto freeway and everyone slams on brakes so we should be fine.