4x4 Day Out

[2LV8ETR]

A bunch of us are going up along the beach to Wedge for some fun starting at Lancelin and then moving onwards to Wedge.

When: 20th November.
Meet Point: BP Kewdale Abernethy Rd.
Meet Time: 09:00 for a 09:30 depart.

We will be arranging a meet point around Wanneroo for the Northies who want to hook up with us, stay tuned for details on the exact location.

As per normal, a BBQ will be brought along if anyone wants to bring a snag to cook up.

[reaper83]

in

[ovaxitd]

keen if home :)

[shifted]

could be keen!

[[PIG GTS]]

Keen!

[XXX_A31]

up for it

[devilfish]

put me down, fancy a trip with other vehicles instead of jeeps all the time!

[mr_mike]

how many ppl here got beach/sand driving experience?
Everyone got their own recovery gear and rated recovery points?

Are you gonna put a vehicle limit on this trip? nothing spoils a 4wd run more than to many vehicles.

[DRKWRX]

maybe interested. http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/2776/sortofwant150x150.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/834/sortofwant150x150.jpg/)

[shifted]

how many ppl here got beach/sand driving experience?
Everyone got their own recovery gear and rated recovery points?

None. :-(
Nope. :-(

Run through for newbies in regard to recovery gear/rated recovery points?

[DRKWRX]

been wedge lanno before few times, not in the patrol though, dont they have rated points front n rear stock?

[DT95WA]

None. :-(
Nope. :-(

Run through for newbies in regard to recovery gear/rated recovery points?

Snatch Strap, Rated shackles. AutoOne stock recovery kits with shackles/strap/bag/gloves. Patrol has a factory recovery point on rear above towball. you'd need to get one fitted on the front.

[crabman]

Are you gonna put a vehicle limit on this trip? nothing spoils a 4wd run more than to many vehicles.

An more than 5 frustrates the hell out of me if I have to drive lol.

If vitara is sas'd by then I would be up for it if numbers are modest.

[mr_mike]

Although the patrol handbook says u can do a "recovery" of that factory hook on the back it has been brought up many times on patrol forums that you cannot use that hook safely as neither the bolts or the hook itself are rated.
The hooks/loops on the front and back of most 4wd are not for recoveries either these are purely for tieing down a vehicle in transit. I have seen a few 4wd's come thru work with these loops ripped clean off and we have had to replace the lower support.

Rear recovery can be done with a rear towbar tounge and bow shackle or a reece hitch. For the basic tow set up remove the actual tow ball itself and put a bow shackle thru the hole in the tounge. You can now safely attach a snatch strap to it.
For reese hitch type tow set up you can either use a unit that slides into the reciever like this and the snatch strap hook to it via the bow shackle.
http://www.bushranger.com.au/hitch_recovery/recovery_hitch_4.jpg
Or you can just use a snatch strap around the pin inside the reece hitch itself.
http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/ww355/zukenutter/22e6843e.jpg

On the front if you have a steel bar there is usually eyelet you can hook a bow shackle onto. Or you can buy aftermarket recovery hooks for about $20ea and there is usually somewhere u can bolt them on. I know on the Hilux they bolt in place of the factory tie down points.


For a beach trip a bare miniumum i would say at least one recovery point is enough, a snatch strap, 2x bow shackles and a shovel.
Snatch strap can be had for about $100 from most auto places.
Bow shackles are used because they disperse the force around the shape of the shackle were as a D shackle the load tends to be directed onto the pin and thread.
A long handle shovel is handy as if you are stuck in deep sand digging a clear path around the wheels will make a recovery alot quick, safer and less strain on equipment.

Thing with sand driving is tyre pressure, drop your tyres down to 12-15psi and you should have no trouble driving on sand unless you loose momentum in some really soft sand. Simplist way to see if you pressure is right when driving push the clutch in or bang it in N if your tyres are low enough you should roll for a little bit without any drive, if you pretty much stop or sink straight way then u need to air down a bit.

[BOSS 290]

I'm in, sounds good.

mr mike - yes and yes.

Anyone got an exhaust jack? Beats the shit out of digging sand with a shovel if you do get bogged.

Half the fun of 4wd'ing is recovering other vehicles.

[devilfish]

i have all the gear (inc winch) and plenty of experience, tho i wont recover anyone without rated recovery points.

suggest that no one comes without rated recovery points. we should have plenty of gear between us.

[mr_mike]

i have all the gear and plenty of experience, tho i wont recover anyone without rated recovery points.

suggest that no one comes without rated recovery points. we should have plenty of gear between us.

+1

[Volatile Rob]

Keen for north meetpoint :)

[devilfish]

i'm in wanneroo, suggest we meet at maccas.

[2LV8ETR]

The North meet point is being decided on our forum at the moment.

I should have an answer for all concerned very soon.

I have put forward Maccas Wanneroo as a request.

[mr_mike]

What forum?

[reaper83]

www.westcoastcruisers.com.au

[2LV8ETR]

Link to original thread - http://www.westcoastcruisers.com.au/Forums/topic/1685-4x4-cruise-9-up-the-the-beach-sounds-just-fine/

The North meet point will be at McDonalds in Wanneroo.

Address: Keane St, Sinagra (between Hastings, and Shaw Rd according to Google maps)

It will take 1 hr to get there from Kelmscott so the meet time for the North site will be 10:00, for a 10:30 depart.

[V8EATER]

Great to see a good response of people that maybe attending this event. It should be a good one guys. All recovery gear is required as always.

I can't wait to bash to Patrol and see what it goes like with the vortex 350 chev compared to the cruiser with the AMC 360. It shall be interesting...

[mr_mike]

Any inexperienced people who are thinkin of going on this trip should go buy the latest 4WD Action magazine (one with white Landrover on the front) it has a pretty good artical on how to drive in sand, recovery points, sand recoveries and tyre pressures.

[1cut808]

hmmmm pretty sure I'm working...

[mr_mike]

the 18th and 20th is the same dates at the 4wd Camping and Adventure show at Mcullum Park

[2LV8ETR]

It's no biggie.

We regularly hold these events every 4-6 weeks so those that miss out on this one can hook up on the next one.

[BOSS 290]

The Camping and Adventure show runs over 3 days...I'm sure the 4x4 day can be held one of these days?

[mr_mike]

yeh planning on 4wd show on saturday then this trip on sunday

[mr_mike]

Sunny and 27deg on Sunday, who's still going?

[BOSS 290]

Yup, will be there.

[devilfish]

still in

[2LV8ETR]

Should be a good day.

[mr_mike]

wonder what the beach is like at the mo?

[devilfish]

what UHF channel are we using?

[mr_mike]

65 never anyone on the 40+ channels

[miss_petepie]

will bring my camera out with me and see what we can get :)

[devilfish]

hummm dont have newfangled UHF.....

[mr_mike]

meh can work it out on the day

[BOSS 290]

65? My Icom only has 40Ch.....

[mr_mike]

the UHF CB now goes to 80, not 100% sure on the details but its something like the signal has been halfed making an extra 40 channels. Been in effect for a few months now. I know my GME had it programmed in so all i had to do was access the GME website after a certain date then press the buttons in a certain sequence and it reprogrammed my UHF for 80ch. Some radios can be taken into shops and be reprogramed

[2LV8ETR]

We usually sit on around 38-40, but as stated above, we'll nut it out.

[mr_mike]

just picked up a new 11,000lbs snatch strap and Ezi-Deflater at the 4wd show... all set!

[devilfish]

interesting day.... get the pics up! and RR sports should stay off the beach ;)

[mr_mike]

i think we done 7km up the beach from Lano and back. Unfortunatly day did not go all that great.
Who would of thought a $150k RR Sport on 20's would be no good on the beach. Ended up rollin the back left of the bead and a heater hose unclip from where its supposed to be held in and was hit by the engine fan causing a hole in it and a cloud of steam to come out from the RR.

Peta will probably smash some pics up in the next couple days, the 60 series jumping was piss funny

[BOSS 290]

Was an adventurous day, not much 4wding, plenty of time spent recovering stuck vehicles, mine included!

Next time we might have to stay off the beach. 2nd time out there and 2nd time with the same end result.

[devilfish]

i'm gonna ditch the mud tyres, get some 12.5 inch wide AT tyres even at 10 psi the jeep was too light to bag them out.

[James_2007]

to see if your uhf can get the 80 channels follow this.


1. Select Channel 7.


2. Switch the radio OFF then ON again.


3. Select Channel 23.


4. Switch the radio OFF then ON again.


5. Select Channel 39.


6. Switch the radio OFF then ON again.


7. Select Channel 15.


8. Switch the radio OFF then ON again.


9. Select Channel 31.


10. Switch the radio OFF then ON again.

[mr_mike]

Was an adventurous day, not much 4wding, plenty of time spent recovering stuck vehicles, mine included!

Next time we might have to stay off the beach. 2nd time out there and 2nd time with the same end result.

if you didnt need another vehicle to pull you out then it doesnt count as a recovery!! The paj rolled out of there with ease once you got the tyres down to 10psi. The beach is actually pretty good if you avoid Narrow Neck, after where the Rangie got stuck the beach is rock solid and you can cruise all the way to Wedge at about 60kph.

So who's up for powerlines?

[mr_mike]

james_2007 isnt that only for newer GME radios?

[James_2007]

it will do all of these models

http://www.gme.net.au/public/images/about/chart2.jpg

1. Select Channel 7.


2. Switch the radio OFF then ON again.


3. Select Channel 23.


4. Switch the radio OFF then ON again.


5. Select Channel 39.


6. Switch the radio OFF then ON again.


7. Select Channel 15.


8. Switch the radio OFF then ON again.


9. Select Channel 31.


10. Switch the radio OFF then ON again.


If the upgrade was successful, channel 80 will be displayed.

[mr_mike]

yeh so it is only GME radios made in the last year or so.

[devilfish]

I recon a harvey weekend would be better, camp out one night and get on the piss, im over powerlines :) keen to winch RR up rocky gullys haha

[mr_mike]

i'm keen for Harvey but dont know the area all that well. Also need to get new bent rear upper arm as my standard one hits on the long range tank before i get full drop in the suspension

[reaper83]

good day out yeah next time we need to stay off the boggy part of the beach, man im abit sore after that last jump i hit the roof when i came out of my seat hahah all good.. Pics please

ps... devilfish sorry forgot your name i have all your pipes and joiners and clamps they didnt end up using them

[devilfish]

Hey man where are you ill grab them and put them back in the jeep fix kit! how did they fix the split hose?

[reaper83]

no i just got home we had to sit on side of highway and wait for land rover to send out a tow truck

[2LV8ETR]

My apologies for the bad day out guys, I think a lesson learned here is to turn away vehicles that rock up ill prepared for the driving we intend to do, but the RR was a first for us and I think we know what to do next time.

Kudos to the guy for taking an expensive vehicle offroad, but maybe a better set of tyres would have gleaned better results.

Again, sorry for the boring day guys and I hope we can make it up to you on the next one.

[miss_petepie]

here are some of the pics. I need to find my other cable and can upload better ones. yes I know there is a bit of sand stuck on the lense in the pics but havent removed that yet.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v348/miss_petepie/201111smaller01.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v348/miss_petepie/201111smaller013.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v348/miss_petepie/201111smaller016.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v348/miss_petepie/201111smaller024.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v348/miss_petepie/201111smaller029.jpg

first jump i caught on camera:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v348/miss_petepie/201111smaller041.jpg

2nd jump:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v348/miss_petepie/201111smaller046.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v348/miss_petepie/201111smaller047.jpg

more to come :)

[stumps.]

Fuck that is some serious air

[miss_petepie]

yeah the height was huge! not bad for some 253 power :p was fun that part. it wasnt a total waste of a day. I think everyone gained some knowledge in recovery and how prepared your 4wd is :)

[Niva]

didnt think much of the jeep down to its sils until I sore it on the flat! fark, were the words "this is gonna take a whole lotta floorin" mentioned at all?

Kudos to the range owner, how did it go on the soft stuff?

[devilfish]

RR did not do well, the jeep is mine, and mud tyres dig well. Down to 8 psi , jeep just not heavy enough to bag em out, km2's are a bit fail for the beach!

[V8EATER]

Farrrk! I knew i got some air, but didn't think it was that that much.

Rangerover dude, you should of bought that magazine that Mike was on about earlier in this topic before you came out to play. Rangerover on beach sand... FAIL!

http://www.westcoastcruisers.com.au/Forums/uploads/v8eater_images/IMG_1489.JPG
http://www.westcoastcruisers.com.au/Forums/uploads/v8eater_images/IMG_1490.JPG
http://www.westcoastcruisers.com.au/Forums/uploads/v8eater_images/IMG_1491.JPG

I had a fat of time launching the Land Cruiser in the dunes. That 4wd can absolutely take some punishment. Really don't want to sell it. I can't see the Pootrol doing that. BTW its got a a AMC 360 V8 in the Land Cruiser. (American Motor Company). They come out in your Rambler Javelins and Jeeps. Not a very revy motor but its got a shit load of torque. Conversion and machine work done by myself. its been the best $50 engine ive ever had.

Cheers to everyone that came along.

[Niva]

OUCH

[mr_mike]

i got stuck just behind the jeep in the first pic, but luckily dropping to 12psi and smashing lo range reverse i manage to get myself out.

Biggest problem for the rangie was the tyres, even dropping the pressure the sidewalls just werent big enough to allow the tyre to bag out, like most low profile tyres the footprint doesnt change much when u drop the pressure.
Spewin we couldnt continue along to Wedge as i like it up there. The beach was rock solid just after where the rangie got stuck and is easy cruising.

So Devilfish when are you making a thread for your harvey overnighter? ;)

[ovaxitd]

thats some fkn massive air... looks like a fustrating day by all... was actually keen to come up for a thrash...

[BOSS 290]

The sand was that soft in areas walking would see you sink a couple of inches. The sand along the water was hard, but the thought of having to drive along the water with the chance of drowning the 4wd didn't have appeal. The Paj did ok after mr_mike dug the sand out and aided with directions to get it out. I didn't need a tow fortunately. I was keen as fuck to get out though, big relief. The RR reminds me of the Terri Turbo I had, goes like a shower of shit but useless off road. 20" 50 or 55 profile tyres do not balloon when pressures are dropped.

I'd be keen to head up and do a section of the powerline tracks next time. I'll fit the STT's for that.

[V8EATER]

Harvey you say???? Got me if i can go. Im sure Harvey remembers me from not too long ago.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r9w3HUAOBw&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PLB7BC5C797607B775

[MrSparkle]

That bit of the beach is always trouble, we have been through there with cars stuck left and right. Doesn't matter how big or capable your car is its still really difficult to get people out. Best bet is usually the shovel and a bit of elbow grease.

[V8EATER]

Copy that!

[Passage GT]

yeah we had the same problem through that stretch, was made worse cause an 80 series got stuck on the main track, my uncles 80, old mans gu and my gq managed to do down and get back up top with a run up, but my brothers mq got stuck and then others got stuck trying to recover lol, was a big snowball, we all got out in the end, my lil bro's mq shorty (with right tyre pressures) is the best beach car i've been in, l28 loves a rev and was a great car on the beach.

[1cut808]

Missed out on some fun by the looks...

[crabman]

Good pics, looks like a day were a sierra/vitara would have been all the rage :P

That jeep looks weeellll burried there haha