Sharks...ZOMG KILL! KILL THEM ALL!?

[1JZVL]

http://www.news.com.au/national/shark-attack-in-rotto/story-e6frfkvr-1226174015981

Well, no I don't think we should 'destroy them' or apply the 'shoot to kill' method as per the Newspapers front page, what a f*cking joke you pingpingpingpings.

Yes I understand a few people get attacked by these scary beasts, or even killed, but they don't know any f*cking better and react on instinct in their habitat :mad:

I'm just curious as to why people think we should punish the animal, that doesn't know any better?

[Gleeso]

I think its quite retarded when people on the radio etc are talking about killer sharks. Excuse me but arnt all sharks killers. Fucken dickheads.

Edit: If theres one thing to learn from Jaws, dont go swimming on overcast days :p

[esky]

Yep kill it, it will act as a deterrent to all other sharks not to eat people.

[baz]

Real easy solution to this....If you don't want to be bothered/eaten by sharks stay out of the water! That simple. Stay out of their territory. And as for killing it...what a joke! Did they hunt down and kill the Ray that killed Steve irwin?? Dont think so.

[JBAE]

LOL i dig shooting and kiling shit massively! but dont 100% agree on going all redneck on it as said enter the ocean af your own farking risk! in saying that if they can prove a certain shark is making a habbit of treating people as schmackos then it should be destroyed.

[shifted]

The way I see it, we are wandering into the shark's territory. It follows it's instinct like any other animal out there. We shouldn't be killing it.

Same with that mother bear and her cubs who mauled 2 people in Europe - sorry story and all but it's your choice to go camp in the woods knowing there are bears around, killing the bears isn't going to fix the deaths - they just followed instinct.

I don't get why people sit there saying kill them, even my Kayaking coach says to do it while I completely disagreed with his statement and in the short discussion we had the only reason for it from his side is because we use the water. Just because we use the water doesn't make it right.

[1JZVL]

Yes, let's kill a shark because we enjoy going into it's home (aka "the wild")...whilst we don't kill humans who make a choice and murder people.

Hmmmm. I wish the police used the "shoot to kill" approach to criminals, maybe they'd get the place cleaned up.

Fucking scumbags, any excuse to shoot a defenceless animal.

[Lozzle]

I agree with most of the above sentiments - the water is a territory where humans do NOT reign supreme. We're entering their habitat, we know the risks. We take precautions, but sometimes, it's not enough.

I posed the question to some colleagues today - would you feel any different if it were your relative or friend that was eaten by a shark? Would you then want it hunted down and killed? They all said no. Obviously, in a time of grief some people might react differently, but I know I wouldn't. What purpose does it serve to hunt down an endangered species and kill it, when that creature is an opportunist hunter and couldn't resist an easy meal? People who are calling for the Hunt and Kill are prime examples of the race we have become - one that doesn't seem to value any other species than itself and is too easily wasteful of life.

[crabman]

Im with Blaaa, you would only destroy a shark if it literally had a taste for human flesh and was eating people day after day off cott etc.

Same goes with dogs that "attack" people. If it starts to make a habit of it put it down, cant just kill a dog as it mauls a kid that for all we know, threw a rock/stick at it. And if it gets to "attack" someone by getting out of it yard, thats not the dogs fault, thats the owners fault, again no reason to kill the dog.

[SimonR32]

Is there any correlation between smokers, lack of intelligence and wanting to hunt down killer sharks?

I think there might be... Food for thought :)

[shifted]

Im with Blaaa, you would only destroy a shark if it literally had a taste for human flesh and was eating people day after day off cott etc.

Same goes with dogs that "attack" people. If it starts to make a habit of it put it down, cant just kill a dog as it mauls a kid that for all we know, threw a rock/stick at it. And if it gets to "attack" someone by getting out of it yard, thats not the dogs fault, thats the owners fault, again no reason to kill the dog.

If it weren't for the amount of irresponsible and idiotic people on this planet, there wouldn't be a problem with animals IMO - the whole ban the Pitbull thing is a joke - it isn't the dog, it's the owner. Plenty of responsible owners out there that have that breed and it's around kids all the time without an issue.

People need to begin taking responsibility for their actions instead of palming them off onto others/defenseless animals. Society is pathetic when it comes to these issues.

[JBAE]

the other thng with these attacks is i may be wrong but they were all on days where its been very sharky! its widely publicised that dusk, dawn, night and overcast days are prime time for noahs!

people went against the rules of the wild making there chance of being munched even higher... kind of asking for it IMO

[Stealthed]

I'm terrified of sharks, however I don't have a problem with them as I avoid swimming in their domain.

If this shark is like the one on that documentary (Jaws I think?) Then it has clearly devoloped a taste for humans, and we must begin launching air tanks into it's mouth, it's the only way to kill it.

Also, wooden boats are bad mmk.

[Pav]

Yes, let's kill a shark because we enjoy going into it's home (aka "the wild")...whilst we don't kill humans who make a choice and murder people.

Hmmmm. I wish the police used the "shoot to kill" approach to criminals, maybe they'd get the place cleaned up.

Fucking scumbags, any excuse to shoot a defenceless animal.

LOL! Benji, i didn't realize you were such an activist son! Very good...

[ForgedV6]

Is it possible for a shark to acquire a taste for humans? If so that particular shark could pose future problems for swimmers. Even then I wouldn’t kill it.

Why not tag it will a locator or some shit with a built in zapper. “Captain! That shark is heading towards Rotto again!” “Get the zapper ready”

They can call it operation ‘Jaw-Zap’

I saw this stuff on a movie called ‘Sharktopus’ which was based on a true story.

[mattyb89]

anyone who is a diver knows the risks of jumping in the water and being any where from 10 meters to 40 meters from the surface sharks are the kings of the under water world your in there home not yours . There is a thing called a shark shield cost 400 bucks buy one strap it to you leg turn it on and swim around with out knowing its there. i have had one for 6 years now and brought it when i went to cocos islands because the stories of tiger sharks there getting to the size VE commodore doesnt really make me to comfortable and when you see the pingpingpingpings you shit yourself. But i fully know that there is that chance that i may get eaten by a shark or bitten by a sea snake (that is very common for people that stick there hands in dark holes ) so i live with it and get in the water and do what i love and if i go one day i dont want anyone killing a shark cos it ate me for lunch just hope the fucker gets something major first and i die quick.also i heard on the radio today they were talking to a US guy who studies shark attacks and he was saying that there is no such thing as a rough shark a shark will just not start getting the taste for humans and start hunting for them its all crap about perth being stalked by a shark its just bad luck really

[[Jacek]]

I think that they should have a shark crackdown...no, no, a BLITZ. Yeah, they should block off areas where sharks go to have fun and yellow sticker all the bad ones to deter the majority of sharks from being so bad. Then on the 3rd offence they should crush the sharks and force all the other sharks to watch. Dirty no-good sharks

[ryanr32]

People wear wetsuits which make them look exactly like the great whites prey but it's obviously the sharks fault it should have known the difference

[AGIT8D]

Im with Blaaa, you would only destroy a shark if it literally had a taste for human flesh and was eating people day after day off cott etc.

Same goes with dogs that "attack" people. If it starts to make a habit of it put it down, cant just kill a dog as it mauls a kid that for all we know, threw a rock/stick at it. And if it gets to "attack" someone by getting out of it yard, thats not the dogs fault, thats the owners fault, again no reason to kill the dog.

Ru4cerealormilkingaround?

Dogs get put down when they attack a human. I can't think of a circumstance where this hasn't happened, possibly a non-violent breed being provoked, if anything. The reason dogs are so often put down for attacking a human is because they have the dog secured or can easily find it to destroy it. A shark in the ocean is a very different thing. When a human is attacked no-one is really capable of witnessing or following the shark until shotgun clad police/rangers arrive.

Regardless, I find it hilarious that the Shark Spotter (for lack of a better name) was grounded until the start of next month and after 1 then 2 killings Mr Barnett went on a spree saying he defended the S.S. not taking to the skies until November to be on the look out for sharks and that the animals feasting on humans was a rare circumstance. Wind the clock forward a couple of weeks, person 3 is munched upon and Fisheries Minister pops up (no doubt shoved to the podium by Barnett) to announce immediate action to catch and destroy a large shark to keep the people happy. What's more, thousands of WAers will think this is a just and timely solution, and Barnett will be rewarded with praise and votes. DANCE FOR ME, puppets!

[Stealthed]

Let's just say that it did get a taste for humans, why not capture it. Then put it in a big tank and tell criminals they're free to go if they can escape after being dropped in the middle, what you don't tell them is the walls of the "big pool" are lined with vaseline!

Charge $10 entry to watch the spectacle, we could then donate that money to some worthy cause. Win Win!

[stumps.]

I think we should do a Occupy the Ocean 99% of sharks kill 1% of the population

[KAL SPL]

The only persons perspective I would care about on this situation is the families of those who have lost loved ones due to shark attacks or those of the victims themselves , if they believe the sharks need culling then Im all for it but I really cant see any of them expecting it to be done , they all know the risks and still choose to surf/swim with them.

[AGIT8D]

I think we should do a Occupy the Ocean 99% of sharks kill 1% of the population

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The only persons perspective I would care about on this situation is the families of those who have lost loved ones due to shark attacks or those of the victims themselves , if they believe the sharks need culling then Im all for it but I really cant see any of them expecting it to be done , they all know the risks and still choose to surf/swim with them.

Sure, in the same circumstance as a dog who knows no better I guess, if you witness and can be 110% sure the shark you have a bullseye on is the one that munched on a surfer. then remove it of life, but to go out on a whim to find any old 3-4m shark and kill it when the guilty party might be 100km up the coast is just pure knee-jerk Govt stuff to keep the peeps happy, hoon law spec!

[SircatmaN]

They had the fisheries minister on the radio today and were talking about it. Was many epic lols. What he said is that they determine whether the shark will be a danger to people and kill it. They asked him how he would know if it was the shark that killed the guy, to which he answered "We would do an autopsy". Which means they have already kiled the shark anyway. When asked how they determine if a shark is a danger he couldn't answer except to say they determine.

Don't kill the shark, the guy that got eaten was a tourist who was covered in fish swimming in known shark territory. Its like wrapping yourself in meat and jumping in a hungry lion cage.

[SimonR32]

No one has mentioned the fact the guy was spear fishing without a buddy diver?

PS.

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[kiasu]

Sure, in the same circumstance as a dog who knows no better I guess, if you witness and can be 110% sure the shark you have a bullseye on is the one that munched on a surfer. then remove it of life, but to go out on a whim to find any old 3-4m shark and kill it when the guilty party might be 100km up the coast is just pure knee-jerk Govt stuff to keep the peeps happy, hoon law spec!

shark hoon

[mattyb89]

yer thats at like 40 meters at back of rotto isnt it

[kiasu]

next stop africa. guessing he didnt watch the underwater cam/vid of that massive shark swimming past...

[JBAE]

that footage of that shark swimming past im pretty sure was recorded back in 2007! have the media recycled it? and made it look recent? or am i mistaken?

[skidkid]

So some dumb pingping was spearfishing without a buddy whilst scuba diving, and people get suprised when he's eaten?

Same deal with that surfer that got taken 500m from a seal colony, at dawn wearing a wetsuit... what else do you think is going to happen

[MrMayhem]

I think until they get off their lazy fins and head up on land shooting us we shoudl lay off the smegs

[fourseven]

Oh man. When cplagz sees this thread, you niggas are done for!

[JBAE]

one more reason to let it live! so it can deal with pingpingpingpings like him :D

[Stealthed]

that footage of that shark swimming past im pretty sure was recorded back in 2007! have the media recycled it? and made it look recent? or am i mistaken?

"You're going to need a bigger boat.."

[DRKWRX]

Shark didn't even eat him? they said his body floated to the surface with big bight marks? and I don't understand why the keep comparing domesticated dogs to a wild animal that lives in the ocean.......

[Roobiks]

Only thing scarier then a shark is a sky-shark.
http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/0807/sky-shark-demotivational-poster-1216714046.jpg

[JAM3S]

* masturbate

seriously though i think if you ask the majority or surfers, divers ect if they were attacked, would they want the shark to be destroyed i guarantee most if not all would say no. If you enter the ocean you are entering their territory and you should accept the risk.

[mischief1]

I too agree the shark shouldn't be killed, but on the other hand, If they could prove it was the same shark over and over again, it should become an option.

The people that go into these kind of areas, whether it be the ocean surfing, or near those natural habitats in america bears and alligators wonder into, they know the threat is there, so it's just unlucky they get killed.

[-Luke-]

It chomped a yank, hunt it down and give it a fuckin medal














( i heard the Rothchild's are breeding sharks now too keep the populous under control)

[Torquen]

Is it possible for a shark to acquire a taste for humans? If so that particular shark could pose future problems for swimmers. Even then I wouldn’t kill it.

Why not tag it will a locator or some shit with a built in zapper. “Captain! That shark is heading towards Rotto again!” “Get the zapper ready”

They can call it operation ‘Jaw-Zap’

I saw this stuff on a movie called ‘Sharktopus’ which was based on a true story.

They don't acquire a 'taste for human flesh', more so that they adapt to realise that humans are edible food and are not too hard to catch. It's a basic learning skill, try something, if it goes well (aka edible), then they are likely to try again. In saying that humans and sharks don't cross paths under predator prey circumstance that often.

To sum up, killing the shark is pretty stupid and not an effective solution.

[Lonewolf]

no point killing them, most of the people that get scared etc would have no idea exactly how many sharks there are out there (quite a lot!).
Unfortunately people in wetsuits, with flippers (or on boards) can look a lot like seal/sea lions, and we have an island full of these nearby.
Dont get me started on people going swimming at dusk/dawn and in overcast conditions....

Most of the attacks are just mistaken identity, just that the size of the sharks means one bite is enough to fuck you up.

In the end, you go in the water, you run the risk

[Brett_J]

We should also kill coconut trees, they kill more people with wayward coconuts!

I think considering there is about 7 billion people in the world, about 5 people per year killed by a shark is pretty fair, expecially as we kill aroind 100 million a year recreationally.

[Stealthed]

no point killing them, most of the people that get scared etc would have no idea exactly how many sharks there are out there (quite a lot!).
Unfortunately people in wetsuits, with flippers (or on boards) can look a lot like seal/sea lions, and we have an island full of these nearby.
Dont get me started on people going swimming at dusk/dawn and in overcast conditions....

Most of the attacks are just mistaken identity, just that the size of the sharks means one bite is enough to fuck you up.

In the end, you go in the water, you run the risk

Exactly, we dress like prey so expect to be treated as such!

Also many people don't realise how many Bull sharks there are in the swan river yet they swim there all the time, I bet if they knew they'd think twice. (Although I doubt an attack would/will occur)

[crabman]

Exactly, we dress like prey so expect to be treated as such!

Also many people don't realise how many Bull sharks there are in the swan river yet they swim there all the time, I bet if they knew they'd think twice. (Although I doubt an attack would/will occur)

What's the best way to fish for these bull sharks. I want to catch one.

[Brett_J]

What's the best way to fish for these bull sharks. I want to catch one.

American national in a wetsuit carrying a spear :)

[Lonewolf]

big live bait!
saw a waterbird get taken by a shark in the canning when fishing one day

[JBAE]

What's the best way to fish for these bull sharks. I want to catch one.

Freshwater eels are good bait! or just a whole medium sized bait fish, sting wray is awesome bait too, most of my fcuking around with sharks is up north though... just burley up and some fucking thing will show up!

Even better go do it at cottesloe or scabs one night and scare the fuck out of everyone with what you pull out :)

[Stealthed]

American national in a wetsuit carrying a spear :)

LOL!

They showed it on today tonight one year about the huge numbers of bull sharks in the river and some old dude pulled one up only about a meter and quite young but like 10 meters away was some dudes swimming!

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That's not the one I was talking about, but it does prove a point.

[Brett_J]

Fill a balloon with a bit of blood and blow it up, chuck on a big hook with some delicious bloody neat, put a tiny hole in balloon near bottom and let the bitch go out, a shark ye shall have :)

[JBAE]

actually kinda keen to go shark fishing nao!

[mrniceguy]

No one has mentioned the fact the guy was spear fishing without a buddy diver?

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Not exactly. Sounds to me like his mates were diving as well, just that he was the last one back to the boat.

[shifted]

Exactly, we dress like prey so expect to be treated as such!

Also many people don't realise how many Bull sharks there are in the swan river yet they swim there all the time, I bet if they knew they'd think twice. (Although I doubt an attack would/will occur)

Have paddled by some sharks and some dolphins in the river at times - even near the Tonkin Highway Bridge/Ascot area! IIRC, Grey Nurses show up too?

Always interesting looking at whatever fin pops up next to you!

[cplagz]

I can't be fucked reading most of the mindless drivel in this thread, but as a surfer, wakeboarder and soon to be kitesurfer, I do agree with hunting the shark down and killing it. The protection order placed over Great Whites was designed to increase their breeding population and study their habits further. This has now occurred and many of the researchers are coming to the conclusion that Whites are a philatropic species... meaning they follow the same patterns. They breed in the same place, they hunt in the same place .etc If there is a school of whites out there using Perth as their hunting ground, they need to be destroyed.

I'm all for the maintenance of a natural balance of the ecosystem but I know a lot of offshore fisherman who say seeing whites is a regular occurrence now and that their numbers are getting exponentially bigger.

What I don't understand is people who don't care about not being able to use the ocean saying that it is "their habitat" .... If that's the case - was this land you now call home not once another animals world? You don't seem to be jumping up and down about the destruction and extinction of those species? Pot, kettle ?


What I do find funny about the Rotto one is they say he was spearing 500m off Little Armstrong..... when this map - http://www.rottnestisland.com/docs/default-document-library/Marine_Sanctuary_Zone_Armstrong.pdf

clearly shows a 600m+ marine sanctuary lol and there is an 800m NO SPEARFISHING zone around the island also.

[Skitzo]

So what you're saying Marc, is that he deserved it?

Also completely disagree on hunting down and destroying them. Don't give a fuck if you want to surf without the risk. The culling of any wild animal is cruel, and should only be done if they are directly causing problems for their habitat etc..

[skidkid]

As a surfer, diver and marine biol student I have to disagree on the culling of sharks. You know that when you go into the water there's a risk of being eaten, and killing one shark isn't going to reduce that.

[mys1]

There is no proof that Rouge sharks exist anywhere other than in Hollywood movies!

Nova - despite there mindless drivell - had a very interesting caller who is a researcher into shark attacks and Public reactions!

worth a listen! - I hope I have the right link - cant listen at work :S
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[JBAE]

I can't be fucked reading most of the mindless drivel in this thread, but as a surfer, wakeboarder and soon to be kitesurfer, I do agree with hunting the shark down and killing it. The protection order placed over Great Whites was designed to increase their breeding population and study their habits further. This has now occurred and many of the researchers are coming to the conclusion that Whites are a philatropic species... meaning they follow the same patterns. They breed in the same place, they hunt in the same place .etc If there is a school of whites out there using Perth as their hunting ground, they need to be destroyed.

I'm all for the maintenance of a natural balance of the ecosystem but I know a lot of offshore fisherman who say seeing whites is a regular occurrence now and that their numbers are getting exponentially bigger.

What I don't understand is people who don't care about not being able to use the ocean saying that it is "their habitat" .... If that's the case - was this land you now call home not once another animals world? You don't seem to be jumping up and down about the destruction and extinction of those species? Pot, kettle ?


What I do find funny about the Rotto one is they say he was spearing 500m off Little Armstrong..... when this map - http://www.rottnestisland.com/docs/default-document-library/Marine_Sanctuary_Zone_Armstrong.pdf

clearly shows a 600m+ marine sanctuary lol and there is an 800m NO SPEARFISHING zone around the island also.

LOL LOL LOL QUICK KILL ITTTTT ITS MAKING ME SCAREDDD!!!!

[mrniceguy]

As someone who goes spearfishing i wont mind if they catch and kill a few around where he was taken. But having said that, that stretch of water, and west end in paticular, is known for great whites.

[mrniceguy]

Still a cool sport but ;)


http://youtu.be/HEDODlLxWoM

[cplagz]

As a surfer, diver and marine biol student I have to disagree on the culling of sharks. You know that when you go into the water there's a risk of being eaten, and killing one shark isn't going to reduce that.

Not even if the White is a philatropic species meaning Perth has become it's hunting ground?


LOL LOL LOL QUICK KILL ITTTTT ITS MAKING ME SCAREDDD!!!!

I surfed Boodjidup on Friday with whales migrating down the coast less then 1km away that we saw breach multiple times, I'm well aware of the risks and will accept the consequences of my actions - but if there is consistently shark attacks occurring in the same areas something needs to be done.

I would like to see the introduction of drum lines/nets as I don't believe the by-catch is all what it's made out to be, ie. dolphins/turtles. I think the older netting systems probably caused these issues, but I believe they have come a long way since then.

My other thought is on the SharkShield devices, I have a friend with one who swears by it for freediving and has had a few close encounters - but the flip side is they actually attract the shark to begin with and can be unreliable for surfers/kayakers where the entire probes at various times are not fully submerged ... plus the fact it will shock the shit out of you when your leg inadvertently clips it.

[mrniceguy]

I went for a dive with a shark shield for the first time on sunday. (Borrowed a mates) And yes they give u a good zap till you get used to them. Didnt see any sharks tho, or fish:(

[Torquen]

I surfed Boodjidup on Friday with whales migrating down the coast less then 1km away that we saw breach multiple times, I'm well aware of the risks and will accept the consequences of my actions - but if there is consistently shark attacks occurring in the same areas something needs to be done.

Lol.
Say some guy in South Africa likes undertaking his photography hobby (surfing is a hobby) in the middle of a game park where he knows there are lions/cheetahs (animals that will fuck you up) etc present. He then gets eaten by said animals (like the spear fisherman). There is no way they'd cull these animals cos some one went into their habitat, put them self in danger, and got killed. This is no different to us using the ocean to undertake our hobbies (swimming, surfing, fishing etc). Tough break. You know the risks, deal with them.

[cplagz]

Lol.
Say some guy in South Africa likes undertaking his photography hobby (surfing is a hobby) in the middle of a game park where he knows there are lions/cheetahs (animals that will fuck you up) etc present. He then gets eaten by said animals (like the spear fisherman). There is no way they'd cull these animals cos some one went into their habitat, put them self in danger, and got killed. This is no different to us using the ocean to undertake our hobbies (swimming, surfing, fishing etc). Tough break. You know the risks, deal with them.

Are you sure about that? or are you just sprouting facts out of your arse? My neighbours own a game park in ZA and we have spoken at length about the measures they take when animals go "rogue", I think you will find your answer is incorrect.

[Torquen]

Are you sure about that? or are you just sprouting facts out of your arse? My neighbours own a game park in ZA and we have spoken at length about the measures they take when animals go "rogue", I think you will find your answer is incorrect.

*Reserve. Not game park. Poor choice of words on my part. I mean a non privately owned (like the ocean) nature reserve.

[Torquen]

Also if you want another analogy - Why not cull all venomous snakes so bushwalkers can be safe?

[AGIT8D]

^ Why not? I don't leave the ones in my back yard to frollock around all summer..

[Lonewolf]

Not even if the White is a philatropic species meaning Perth has become it's hunting ground?


We have an island full of sea lions just down the coast from us, Perth has always been, and always will be a hunting ground.

As for it being different on land, not really.
If there was a wild cat species that lived in the bush, some people would live with the risk, others wouldnt go into these areas.

[Torquen]

^ Why not? I don't leave the ones in my back yard to frollock around all summer..

But that's your 'habitat' - the bush is the snakes habitat, and the ocean is the sharks. If there's a shark in your back yard feel free to cull it :)

[SEXUAL TYRANNOSAURUS]

I don't leave the ones in my back yard to frollock around all summer..

LOL

[cplagz]

Also if you want another analogy - Why not cull all venomous snakes so bushwalkers can be safe?

Are you stupid? They aren't culling them all. They have given the order to cull 1 shark and the realistic chances of them doing so is slim to none. The Great White has been under a protection act for 7 years now and will continue to be so they can study them. Trying to make comparisons in species in this instance simply doesn't work - as much as the media would like to however. This comes down to hunting patterns and whether or not this particular pack of sharks are the same ones time and time again or not....and there's only 2 ways to find out - electronically tag them which is harder to do or kill one of them and cut it open to find out.

What will your stance be if they do kill one, cut it open and manage to find DNA present from some of the shark attack victims?

[cplagz]

But that's your 'habitat' - the bush is the snakes habitat, and the ocean is the sharks. If there's a shark in your back yard feel free to cull it :)

Our habitat that was once bush.... so we have stolen it from the snakes? So by your thought process you shouldn't kill anything that's around your house, just leave it alone.

[Torquen]

Are you stupid? They aren't culling them all. They have given the order to cull 1 shark and the realistic chances of them doing so is slim to none. The Great White has been under a protection act for 7 years now and will continue to be so they can study them. Trying to make comparisons in species in this instance simply doesn't work - as much as the media would like to however. This comes down to hunting patterns and whether or not this particular pack of sharks are the same ones time and time again or not....and there's only 2 ways to find out - electronically tag them which is harder to do or kill one of them and cut it open to find out.

What will your stance be if they do kill one, cut it open and manage to find DNA present from some of the shark attack victims?

Are you stupid? There's no evidence to suggest sharks target humans, they just eat whatever they bump into. They're top of the food chain in the ocean, not us.

My stance would be tough shit for whoevers DNA that is. It's unfortunate, unlucky, but too bad. Their territory, you run the risk.

I'll continue to swim in the ocean.

[Torquen]

Our habitat that was once bush.... so we have stolen it from the snakes? So by your thought process you shouldn't kill anything that's around your house, just leave it alone.

Ridiculous retort. We're talking present day, not 358962573495634 years ago when we didn't have backyards.

[cplagz]

Are you stupid? There's no evidence to suggest sharks target humans, they just eat whatever they bump into. They're top of the food chain in the ocean, not us.

My stance would be tough shit for whoevers DNA that is. It's unfortunate, unlucky, but too bad. Their territory, you run the risk.

I'll continue to swim in the ocean.

I haven't ever said they target humans - what I'm trying to point out is that if this shark/sharks are using Perth beaches as a hunting ground and continue to kill humans, they need to be dealt with. Also can you provide what evidence you have that sharks just "eat what they bump into", I've never seen any research to show this........

[JBAE]

lol MORK Nature raging!

as i said before if it can be proven that one shark is responsible for more than one attack or has made a habbit of eating people then fair bump play on destroy it and i think that is kind of what your getting at, however if it it is a random animal that has a bit of a nibble on someone then such is life, not only that if they are so territorial just means you fuck one off another will come and replace it.

Netting and shit is a fcuked idea and from my understanding of it it does fark all basically acts as a disrupter to teritorial swim patterns or some shit (feel free to correct me) they dont even extend sea bed to surface in many cases meaning le jaws can simply shark step on over it or around it.

Start going on a cull and it makes us no better than the fcuking japs and their whaling...

IMO shark patrols are about the best you can get enter water ok we will try our best to give you notice when to get the fuck out so you dont get eaten.

ORRRR start putting signs out written in sharklish asking them to fcuk off

[fourseven]

Why don't you go out and spear it?

Is it really because your lot are scared of water? Don't want a bath?

[cplagz]

lol MORK Nature raging!

as i said before if it can be proven that one shark is responsible for more than one attack or has made a habbit of eating people then fair bump play on destroy it and i think that is kind of what your getting at, however if it it is a random animal that has a bit of a nibble on someone then such is life, not only that if they are so territorial just means you fuck one off another will come and replace it.

Netting and shit is a fcuked idea and from my understanding of it it does fark all basically acts as a disrupter to teritorial swim patterns or some shit (feel free to correct me) they dont even extend sea bed to surface in many cases meaning le jaws can simply shark step on over it or around it.

Start going on a cull and it makes us no better than the fcuking japs and their whaling...

IMO shark patrols are about the best you can get enter water ok we will try our best to give you notice when to get the fuck out so you dont get eaten.

ORRRR start putting signs out written in sharklish asking them to fcuk off

It's not a cull though, it's an order to destroy 1.

[Torquen]

It's not a cull though, it's an order to destroy 1.

Which they have zero chance of identifying as the correct one.


I haven't ever said they target humans - what I'm trying to point out is that if this shark/sharks are using Perth beaches as a hunting ground and continue to kill humans, they need to be dealt with. Also can you provide what evidence you have that sharks just "eat what they bump into", I've never seen any research to show this........

My point being sharks eat most things in the ocean which are easy to catch, humans just happen to not be much of a challenge.

[JBAE]

Why don't you go out and spear it?

Is it really because your lot are scared of water? Don't want a bath?

You Bhett rhett!

living up north in summer in our creeks rivers and beaches during summer and seeing dozens of fins or 13-14ft sharks cruising in less than 1m of water ahah yeh swimming and surfing or diving can go get fucked! ill beach it with mates when there is lots of other meat in the water ect like at cott and scabs and such but thats about it, in saying that would much rather beach it than swim in the swan!

[SEXUAL TYRANNOSAURUS]

Do the kill crocs when they eat/chew on people up north?

[zeroyon]

in most area's they re-locate the killer crocs to croc farms or less populated area's.

Sea world should have more man eatng sharks, thats my vote.

[JBAE]

pretty sure they do! crocs are a different story though they have grown in epic numbers since they were protected from hunting, unlike white sharks where you have to go enter their domain all the time to get tooth raped mud gheckos can come to you.

[JBAE]

difference is you can more easily locate and ID a habitual man eating croc than a shark, im not against killing a proven menace i love shooting and killing shit as ive said before makes me hard and stuff i have sex with their dead carcasses and shit! but to do it indiscriminately is a poor idea (unless its coons)

[R3N]

IMO shark patrols are about the best you can get enter water ok we will try our best to give you notice when to get the fuck out so you dont get eaten.

Just like nyoongar patrols?

[JBAE]

Just like nyoongar patrols?

pingpingpingping you being racist???!

[mys1]

I haven't ever said they target humans - what I'm trying to point out is that if this shark/sharks are using Perth beaches as a hunting ground and continue to kill humans, they need to be dealt with. Also can you provide what evidence you have that sharks just "eat what they bump into", I've never seen any research to show this........

Marc - Did you listen to the link I posted?

The guy actually studies this shit!

[cplagz]

Marc - Did you listen to the link I posted?

The guy actually studies this shit!

Listen again dude - he's not a shark researcher, he's studying human reaction to shark attacks. I'd say he's more in the psych side of things.

[Brett_J]

I like sharks because they mistake body boarders as turtles and attack them :)
Body boarders aren't real surfers so they deserve it, they just clog up the ocean with their children's toys getting in the way of the real masters of the wave on their bucking piece of fibreglass awesomeness!

[ryanr32]

People need to stop dressing up like dinner wear a fluro pink wetsuit or some shit not a black one.

My advice for summer swim with a fat friend cause they will look more tasty and you can always outswim them if you do see a shark

[Lonewolf]

some of the onus is also on the swimmers for being in the water at dawn/dusk and in overcast conditions

[Stealthed]

I thought sharks were attracted to fluro colours?

Or perhaps I've been sucked into thinking that after watching "Deep Blue Sea"

[AGIT8D]

Sharks are colourblind.

[DISTRBD]

Blaaa keen to go for a dive off rotto some time soon ??

[AGIT8D]

Blaaa keen to go for a dive off rotto some time soon ??

They can definitely still see black. Black is not a colour :)

[mys1]

Listen again dude - he's not a shark researcher, he's studying human reaction to shark attacks. I'd say he's more in the psych side of things.

He also studies Shark behaviour and trends - along with marine biologists!

Whats killing the one shark actually going to achieve?

It wont send a message to any sharks in the area? they'll probablly just go "hey, has anyone see George this week? haven't seen him around"

It sure as hell wont make the water any safer or more dangerous.

No research shows that Sharks are/or have gone rogue, nor do any studies show that shark deterants work definativley - its all inconclusive research!

Until such time that the research proves beyond reasonable doubt that Sharks are doing things then they should be left alone, We swim in there play ground, we know the risks! Its only when you get a group of bad events happen together that you get people demanding action be taken - it could be 6 months before another swimmer is nabbed!

Facts are you have more chance being killed in a car crash driving to the beach, than actually going for a swim!

Life is risky business in general!

[Torquen]

^^^This guy!

[Tocchi]

Facts are you have more chance being killed in a car crash driving to the beach, than actually going for a swim!

but what if hoon shark is about? surely the chances increase

http://i55.tinypic.com/21jdu8l.jpg

[mys1]

I was waiting for that picture to pop up!

[duste]

It wont send a message to any sharks in the area? they'll probablly just go "hey, has anyone see George this week? haven't seen him around"

LOLLLLL!!!!!!!!

Land is our domain, water is their domain.

We should cull gravity too, I hate it when that fucker forces people to plummet to their deaths.

[1JZVL]

If you think that killing one will benefit us in any way, then you're an idiot.

It certainly isn't helping the great white shark population.

People go on about global fucking warming, which is bullshit, and pretend to be all pro-environment..yet a large amount of people think it's okay to go around 'punishing' wild animals because we're stupid enough to go hanging around them - this world is fucked.

I hope 2012 comes along, and wipes out most of the planet and hopefully most of the retards that are on it.

[R3N]

pingpingpingping you being racist???!
yes


He also studies Shark behaviour and trends - along with marine biologists!

Whats killing the one shark actually going to achieve?

It wont send a message to any sharks in the area? they'll probablly just go "hey, has anyone see George this week? haven't seen him around"

It sure as hell wont make the water any safer or more dangerous.

No research shows that Sharks are/or have gone rogue, nor do any studies show that shark deterants work definativley - its all inconclusive research!

Until such time that the research proves beyond reasonable doubt that Sharks are doing things then they should be left alone, We swim in there play ground, we know the risks! Its only when you get a group of bad events happen together that you get people demanding action be taken - it could be 6 months before another swimmer is nabbed!

Facts are you have more chance being killed in a car crash driving to the beach, than actually going for a swim!

Life is risky business in general!

Only if you kill it whilst another watches and let that one free to warn the others what it saw

[mys1]

Letting another shark watch will be worse!

"guys! guys! THEY JUST KILLED GEORGE! get the crew together, we're going human hunting"

Fucking game over!

[DISTRBD]

I hope 2012 comes along, and wipes out most of the planet and hopefully most of the retards that are on it.

If not start pushing pingpingpingpings into the ocean :P

[cplagz]

http://www.bodyboardblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/agent-18-elite-steamer-zebra.jpg

I'll be safe next winter.

[baz]

Now I have two good reasons to NOT go to the Beach...Sharks ....and that swimsuit!!!

[JBAE]

http://www.bodyboardblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/agent-18-elite-steamer-zebra.jpg

I'll be safe next winter.

Will be safe from sharks but fak me man the lions are gonna be all over yo shit hard !!!

[Tocchi]

you hope you wouldnt be crossing any sharks path with that on

[skidkid]

If I wasn't such a lazy cnut I'd quote scientific journals to back me up, but who does that these days. The ocean around perth isn't anywhere close to its capacity for great whites, or any large marine predatory species for that matter. If you kull one, you reduce the breeding ability of the population, the genetic diversity and you create an area of coast that is empty, and would be perfect hunting ground for a younger more aggressive shark - or two. Great whites are migratatory and fuck all is known on them, but they do have areas that individuals will repeatedly hunt in. If we kill this fucker, theres a very good chance a few juvenilles will move in..

Maybe I should do a thesis on the pingping

[JBAE]

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..fake?

[rucker_]

Beyond fake

[iluv2moan]

need to start killing people who kill people before sharks.

[JBAE]

FAILLL :( this is what i was after anyways lol 100% no reason we dont get this shit here! enjoy your swimming in the swan fcukkers!

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[[Jacek]]

This shit is just the flavour of the month anyway. Another bunch of media hype. There are so many more important issues that we could be discussing, and that the government could be focusing on.