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Gurney
05-09-2011, 03:24 PM
Several weeks ago I purchased an AVC-R off evil2 from these forums, I believe his name maybe Aaron Hunter. The unit was sold to me after I confirmed numerous times that it was fully functional, but upon installation I found it to be faulty. I have made several attempts to contact the seller by these forums, the skyline forums, his email, his facebook and a number I believe to be his mobile and have not received a single reply for 2 weeks now. I was wondering if anyone on here knew this person and whether there is any reason for him to be out of reach for so long, I am very keen to return the AVC-R and get my money back. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks.

JBAE
05-09-2011, 05:05 PM
looks like hes been online within the last week looking at his profile

Gurney
05-09-2011, 05:17 PM
I have been checking daily to see if he has signed in, he replied to my very first message but has since ignored all the other ones I've sent through many different means of contact. I'm having enough fun trying trying to organise things for my car to get the yellow sticker off, I don't want to have to worry about whether or not I now have a $300 paper weight.

Sfidz
05-09-2011, 05:30 PM
pretty sure you don't need a electronic boost controller to get your yellow sticker off?

SSICK
05-09-2011, 05:33 PM
re read it mr rogen.

shifted
05-09-2011, 05:34 PM
Checked facebook... Any chance he has a girlfriend/had one called Vicky?

Gurney
05-09-2011, 05:38 PM
pretty sure you don't need a electronic boost controller to get your yellow sticker off?Pretty sure I never said that I did?

Sfidz
05-09-2011, 06:42 PM
re read it mr rogen.

whoops my bad.

magic1
05-09-2011, 07:06 PM
evil_trunks_69@hotmail.com emailed this?

TJ
05-09-2011, 07:07 PM
Oh thats that retard pingpingpingping that kept trying to sell his dodge 33 on here.

magic1
05-09-2011, 07:45 PM
0432 745 889?

Gurney
06-09-2011, 08:57 AM
I have emailed that hotmail, his Facebook and his sau account. I have this persons address but the kit is not yet off the car, can't go around empty handed expecting to get my money back.

Skitzo
06-09-2011, 09:12 AM
In what way is it faulty?

mys1
06-09-2011, 09:27 AM
Unfortunatley its Buyer Beware in these instances.

If you want somthing to work buy it new, or take the risk (and understand its a risk!) and buy it used.

Whos to say you didn't wire something up wrong and cause the fault yourself?

Im not saying that this behaviour is warranted (ripping of the local community) but it is a used electrical item, with no warranty at the end of the day!

Turbo2.6L
06-09-2011, 09:35 AM
Rape the $300 out of him if you have his address! Make sure it's dry

Lump
06-09-2011, 09:52 AM
Unfortunatley its Buyer Beware in these instances.

If you want somthing to work buy it new, or take the risk (and understand its a risk!) and buy it used.

Whos to say you didn't wire something up wrong and cause the fault yourself?

Im not saying that this behaviour is warranted (ripping of the local community) but it is a used electrical item, with no warranty at the end of the day!
exactly what i cbf writing last night :)

Gurney
06-09-2011, 10:04 AM
Yeah....Nah I reckon that's crap. The amount of times I confirmed it was working with him, plus for him ko now ignore my calls and messages tells me he knew it was fucked. Even if he didn't I feel his has an obligation to honour his claim of it to be fully functional, or have to refund the product as it is not what I was told I was purchasing.

mattyb89
06-09-2011, 10:09 AM
its a hard situation that your in man hope it all works out for the good

masterA
06-09-2011, 10:19 AM
If he's selling his car.....make a meet point as a potential buyer ;)

Skitzo
06-09-2011, 10:20 AM
As i said, in what way is it faulty? The display unit, or the solenoid?

duste
06-09-2011, 10:24 AM
Yeah....Nah I reckon that's crap. The amount of times I confirmed it was working with him, plus for him ko now ignore my calls and messages tells me he knew it was fucked. Even if he didn't I feel his has an obligation to honour his claim of it to be fully functional, or have to refund the product as it is not what I was told I was purchasing.

If you specifically asked whether it was fully functional, then yes, I completely agree with you.

Gurney
06-09-2011, 10:28 AM
When power is run to the display unit, it just lights up all blue with a very faint out line of what should be displayed. No Apexi start up screen and no other variation in the display, which says to me the screen has had it's day. Got my mate who's a mechanic to install it and check the wiring, but he said the same thing about the screen.

TJ
06-09-2011, 10:35 AM
No offence but if you have his address why are you wasting time with a thread on here.

Rock up with a couple of mates, knock on door.

mys1
06-09-2011, 10:40 AM
Yeah....Nah I reckon that's crap. The amount of times I confirmed it was working with him, plus for him ko now ignore my calls and messages tells me he knew it was fucked. Even if he didn't I feel his has an obligation to honour his claim of it to be fully functional, or have to refund the product as it is not what I was told I was purchasing.


When power is run to the display unit, it just lights up all blue with a very faint out line of what should be displayed. No Apexi start up screen and no other variation in the display, which says to me the screen has had it's day. Got my mate who's a mechanic to install it and check the wiring, but he said the same thing about the screen.

LCD screens Fail all the time, a slight votage spike can be enough to damage them.

i stand by what I say, It could very well have worked, and then not when you went to use it.

As for not answering your calls? Well I wouldn't either, thats the risk you take.

Gurney
06-09-2011, 10:47 AM
LCD screens Fail all the time, a slight votage spike can be enough to damage them.

i stand by what I say, It could very well have worked, and then not when you went to use it.

As for not answering your calls? Well I wouldn't either, thats the risk you take.well aren't you hardcore, nice to know you don't mind ripping people off. I was hoping to contact him before hand in case it was a simple lack of communication, not very polite to rock up to someone's house with people before the seller is even aware of what's happening. I will just have to remove the kit and go around to his house unless I reach him first, just a warming to anyone out there who may purchase off of this person and have the same trouble as I did.

Buckets
06-09-2011, 10:48 AM
No offence but if you have his address why are you wasting time with a thread on here.

Rock up with a couple of mates, knock on door.

+1. Quickest way to sort something out is to go round and sort it out.

Good luck, I'd say that while it sucks for you getting a broken bit of gear it's the risk you take with 2nd hand parts. Unless you can prove it was fucked when he sold it to you I'd say your not going to get anywhere mate.

mitchy
06-09-2011, 11:02 AM
+1. Quickest way to sort something out is to go round and sort it out.

Good luck, I'd say that while it sucks for you getting a broken bit of gear it's the risk you take with 2nd hand parts. Unless you can prove it was fucked when he sold it to you I'd say your not going to get anywhere mate.

you just contradicted yourself?


wouldn't you get an auto electrican, over a mechanic to wire it up as well?
i'm with tyson on this one.

Jumanji
06-09-2011, 11:07 AM
+1 if he knowingly sold something to you that was stuffed, then he should re-imburse you the cost of the item.

Buckets
06-09-2011, 11:10 AM
you just contradicted yourself?

???

Gurney
06-09-2011, 11:11 AM
The mechanic is a mate of mine and did it for substantially cheaper than an auto sparky would, but by the way it seems to be disfunctioning I'd say it is hooked up properly, its just rooted.

Azrian
06-09-2011, 11:15 AM
You just said again. Its cheaper to pay your mate then an auto electrician. You took a risk that did not fall in your favour. Its shit i know.

Borgz, how do you know that the seller knew it was stuffed? You are assuming.

Gurney, i agree with you that he should be in contact with you to discuss this situation but if he still claims that it worked fine what can you do. For all he knows you could have dropped it. Think of the situation from his shoes.

Lump
06-09-2011, 11:17 AM
^exactly.

Jumanji
06-09-2011, 11:18 AM
You just said again. Its cheaper to pay your mate then an auto electrician. You took a risk that did not fall in your favour. Its shit i know.

Borgz, how do you know that the seller knew it was stuffed? You are assuming.

Gurney, i agree with you that he should be in contact with you to discuss this situation but if he still claims that it worked fine what can you do. For all he knows you could have dropped it. Think of the situation from his shoes.

You obviously didn't read what I wrote, I said IF He knowingly sold faulty goods, then he should refund the cost.

Gurney, I have to agree with TJ, if you know where he lives then rock up and demand you money back.

TJ
06-09-2011, 11:18 AM
You just said again. Its cheaper to pay your mate then an auto electrician. You took a risk that did not fall in your favour. Its shit i know.

Borgz, how do you know that the seller knew it was stuffed? You are assuming.

Gurney, i agree with you that he should be in contact with you to discuss this situation but if he still claims that it worked fine what can you do. For all he knows you could have dropped it. Think of the situation from his shoes.

If that is the case then why has he chosen to avoid all forms of contact?

Surely a chat explaining his side of the issue would be the correct way to resolve the problem?

mitchy
06-09-2011, 11:19 AM
The mechanic is a mate of mine and did it for substantially cheaper than an auto sparky would, but by the way it seems to be disfunctioning I'd say it is hooked up properly, its just rooted.

your mate is probably cheaper than a heart surgeon as well, here's hoping you dont need a bypass anytime soon.

mys1
06-09-2011, 11:29 AM
If that is the case then why has he chosen to avoid all forms of contact?

Surely a chat explaining his side of the issue would be the correct way to resolve the problem?

Because he sounds like a cheapskate whingy pingpingpingping. Sometimes its not worth selling things to people, this seems to be one of those instances!

Gurney
06-09-2011, 11:35 AM
Not sure about you, but I try to avoid losing hundreds of dollars without good reason, you're making it out as though him selling me a broken item advertised as working as him doing me some kind of favor?

mattyb89
06-09-2011, 11:36 AM
You just said again. Its cheaper to pay your mate then an auto electrician. You took a risk that did not fall in your favour. Its shit i know.
so are you saying that a mechanic who has to go through tafe and has to do electrical units shouldnt be wiring anything up at all

Joe
06-09-2011, 11:37 AM
I did 2 law units at uni, I'm not a lawyer :D

INSINR8R
06-09-2011, 11:38 AM
Rock up to his house, knock on door, slap him in the face with a glove, demand satisfaction.

http://oi53.tinypic.com/2889mv8.jpg

Azrian
06-09-2011, 12:00 PM
so are you saying that a mechanic who has to go through tafe and has to do electrical units shouldnt be wiring anything up at all

did i say he shouldnt be wiring up anything or did i say he should use an auto electrician?

Azrian
06-09-2011, 12:01 PM
I did 2 law units at uni, I'm not a lawyer :D

I did nothing and earn 6 digits a year.

mys1
06-09-2011, 12:03 PM
Not sure about you, but I try to avoid losing hundreds of dollars without good reason, you're making it out as though him selling me a broken item advertised as working as him doing me some kind of favor?

You tried and appeared to have failed... at least you have your health right?

Gurney
06-09-2011, 12:10 PM
You tried and appeared to have failed... at least you have your health right?if I get my money back, I will use some of it to buy you a cape.

Torquen
06-09-2011, 12:20 PM
I did nothing and earn 6 digits a year.


...http://i546.photobucket.com/albums/hh406/jshakersgmailcom/FFFFFFF.jpg?

mys1
06-09-2011, 12:23 PM
if I get my money back, I will use some of it to buy you a cape.

Whilst I appreciate your offer, Id prefer you donated any such funds to a suitable charity of your choice.

I have no price for my opinions, I give them freely to any that will listen.

From high upon my shiny white horse;

Gurney
06-09-2011, 12:27 PM
Whilst I appreciate your offer, Id prefer you donated any such funds to a suitable charity of your choice.

I have no price for my opinions, I give them freely to any that will listen.

From high upon my shiny white horse;it seems you need the cape more than any charity needs money...

mys1
06-09-2011, 12:31 PM
I allready have a cape...

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5213/5385182291_71687fa993.jpg

Gurney
06-09-2011, 12:43 PM
Cool pic bro, very humorous and quite impressive. Please post another?

ossie_21
06-09-2011, 12:45 PM
Shit thread is shit....

Either sort it out face to face with him or write it off as a mistake

Gurney
06-09-2011, 01:01 PM
That appears to be the next step, let this serve as a warning and reminder about the risk of buying second hand parts from those you don't know :eek:

JBAE
06-09-2011, 01:37 PM
just start Shitting in parcels and have them delivered to his house!

Sfidz
06-09-2011, 01:49 PM
I agree with Tyson on this one.

Several times I have had people return parts to me saying they aren't working even thought they were working fine when removed from car.
The kind of person I am I refunded their money but it has begun to get a little old so I will think twice before doing it again.
I have been frustrated with this and similar situations so I barely answer calls from numbers that are not in my phone.

TJ
06-09-2011, 01:51 PM
And emails, and fb posts etc?

Looking at evil2's posting history, and knowing the mechanic who did the work, I would side with Gurney on this one. I have never met him so I am not being biased here.

There is a case of buyer beware, but if you are blatantly lied to many times over that is pretty low.

mys1
06-09-2011, 02:24 PM
And emails, and fb posts etc?

Looking at evil2's posting history, and knowing the mechanic who did the work, I would side with Gurney on this one. I have never met him so I am not being biased here.

There is a case of buyer beware, but if you are blatantly lied to many times over that is pretty low.

We have only herd one side of the story though mr Tomislav!

There are three sides to every story as we all know! Gurneys Side, evil2's side and the truth!

until the other two sides are known, or evil2 replys here, then I dont see how anyone can take sides!

It's fun to point the finger though!

TJ
06-09-2011, 02:46 PM
Ill finger you!

Wait, what

mys1
06-09-2011, 02:52 PM
Ill finger you!

Wait, what

Fucking Relax OK!

thrtytwo
06-09-2011, 04:24 PM
might not be ideal, but you should SEE something working before you buy it.

I've sold 3 electronic items on here, an iPhone, a PS3 and a HTPC, and I wouldn't of let anyone take any of them without first showing them the items working. Just to cover my own butt.

If they've seen the item being used and then still agreed to buy it, anything after that isn't your problem.

In saying all of that, I still feel sorry for you and hope you work it out.

YOUR MATE
06-09-2011, 04:37 PM
It is a shitty situation, sure, but like others have said if you didn't see it working prior to purchase then you can only really blame yourself. When spending your own money you shouldn't count on someones word being honorable. Now go get a gearbox and put it on his doorstep.

blaize
06-09-2011, 04:51 PM
Tough luck mate. Sometimes saving a couple of hundred isnt really worth it. Yeah its pretty low for him to tell you it works if he knew it didnt but maybe as far as he was aware when it came out of his car it worked. which means by the time it ended up in your car it might have been dropped a few times left for a while etc.Hope it works out for you and you get some sort of re-imbursement because ive been in your situation before. But i doubt it

RICEY
06-09-2011, 04:53 PM
re the mechanic vs auto electrician comments... Im a mechanic and I do more electrical work than mechanical and Im at a shitty dealership.

Modern mechanics need to be auto electricians to diagnose and repair modern cars.

R3N
06-09-2011, 05:36 PM
re the mechanic vs auto electrician comments... Im a mechanic and I do more electrical work than mechanical and Im at a shitty dealership.

Modern mechanics need to be auto electricians to diagnose and repair modern cars.

wouldn't trust your work as far as I could throw you though <3

RICEY
06-09-2011, 05:46 PM
wouldn't trust your work as far as I could throw you though <3

The last person that said that died when the car I fixed spontaneously combusted!

shifted
06-09-2011, 06:16 PM
Now go get a gearbox and put it on his doorstep.

I have a gearbox, possibly still full of oil that you can have to achieve this if you like! Also have an engine you could use too, feel free to have them.

Hope you get your money back, I would be asking for it back myself but I would also want to have seen it working first. Straight to his house - fuck being civil if he has been ignoring you like he has!

Drift_R32
06-09-2011, 08:47 PM
Buyers beware honestly..
I have even gone to the extent of giving people to fix something that hs died on a car I sold Afew days before.

But after i brought a car for 8k that had a bottom end knock when I got home, and I asked previous owner for 1000k back to repair engine and he refused and told me tough luck. Honestly don't trust no one selling anything.

Makes sense when he started it cold and asoon as we got back from drive he turned it off straight away.

slypsi
06-09-2011, 09:18 PM
That would be like buying a 32 GTS4 for a very cheap price, ripping the good stuff off it, adding china shit, breaking it, and then trying to sell it for double what you paid. Buyer beware I guess.

thrtytwo
06-09-2011, 09:23 PM
inb4poolroom

Torquen
06-09-2011, 10:12 PM
Thread is a long way from being pool room worthy!

TJ
06-09-2011, 10:20 PM
x2

Smoked
07-09-2011, 10:10 AM
you can be banned from antilag for things much less serious than blatantly selling dodgy equipment.

its too hard to prove though really i say just make sure the items work before handing cash over. problem solved

SimonR32
07-09-2011, 10:53 AM
That would be like buying a 32 GTS4 for a very cheap price, ripping the good stuff off it, adding china shit, breaking it, and then trying to sell it for double what you paid. Buyer beware I guess.

haha, i love your posts :)

JBAE
07-09-2011, 10:57 AM
wave ya dicks in the air like ya just dont careeeeee!

mitchy
07-09-2011, 11:02 AM
haha, i love your posts :)

indeed!

Adr3naL1N
07-09-2011, 02:52 PM
evil2 is not responsibility company

Fujiwara13
07-09-2011, 06:07 PM
you can be banned from antilag for things much less serious than blatantly selling dodgy equipment.



Yeah, but you can be banned from here for annoying TJ by posting hand drawn Simpson's comics...

hako
07-09-2011, 06:13 PM
re the mechanic vs auto electrician comments... Im a mechanic and I do more electrical work than mechanical and Im at a shitty dealership.

Modern mechanics need to be auto electricians to diagnose and repair modern cars.

Until you fuck it up, throw your hands in the air and handball people like me shit work that no pingpingpingping wants to touch. (not a dig at you personally btw)

adrenalin
07-09-2011, 06:32 PM
That would be like buying a 32 GTS4 for a very cheap price, ripping the good stuff off it, adding china shit, breaking it, and then trying to sell it for double what you paid. Buyer beware I guess.

Lol hard. Whatever happened to that car ?

mys1
07-09-2011, 06:35 PM
This thread is still going?

JBAE
07-09-2011, 06:39 PM
howd you figure that out?

Gurney
07-09-2011, 06:52 PM
While I'm here, anyone got a AVC-R head unit I can have? -__-

mys1
07-09-2011, 07:41 PM
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Apexi-AVC-R-Actuator-Valve-controller-/190559416645?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2c5e39f145

Thank me later

Gurney
07-09-2011, 07:43 PM
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Apexi-AVC-R-Actuator-Valve-controller-/190559416645?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2c5e39f145

Thank me laterKnowing my luck, it would end up not working...

Torquen
07-09-2011, 07:55 PM
^ I lol'd.

RICEY
08-09-2011, 05:42 AM
Until you fuck it up, throw your hands in the air and handball people like me shit work that no pingpingpingping wants to touch. (not a dig at you personally btw)

Ive been given jobs that auto leccies have fucked up so it works both ways. :) Granted I do a lot of extra training at Holden College involving the electrical side ie can bus technology, circuits , modules etc etc

Smoked
08-09-2011, 06:01 AM
i can has bus technology?

RICEY
08-09-2011, 09:20 AM
Yes, yes you can.