Nitrous legalities

[2jzlux]

Hi

I am getting a little bored with my daily so i have thought about putting a wet nitrous kit on there to see if it makes a difference.
In the past i have heard rumours of 10k fines and shit like this but am wondering if anyone knows for sure what the penalty is for having it
hooked up in your car.
I realise if it is spotted i am probably going to cop a sticker and i can live with that but if the big fines are true i may have to look at something
else.
Can anyone tell me from experience what the deal is.

[Jumanji]

From memory you can have it plumbed up so long as the bottle isnt connected, they cant do anything. These days from the U.S you can get kits that will disconnect it remotely.

[Anaru]

I heard otherwise from RTA(?) as in, can't have it plumbed up or anything. Heard this ages ago at that Q&A rollaboyz did with the 'head' pit inspector. So it could of changed by then

[Smoked]

how do they know the 'head' pit inspector wouldnt just give them bogie answers to discourage them from even doing it in the first place, regardless of wether or not it would actually be illegal.. the lines are blurred anyway i doubt you would get a 10k fine!

[AGIT8D]

I heard otherwise from RTA(?) as in, can't have it plumbed up or anything. Heard this ages ago at that Q&A rollaboyz did with the 'head' pit inspector. So it could of changed by then

There is no reason you couldn't have it all plumbed up with no bottle feeding the lines. What I'd do is have the real bottles connected under a false floor and another empty bottle on top of the false floor so you can "see" the bottle is not connected, but really the other bottle/s is/are.

None of this answers OP question, however.

[Oversteer]

AFAIK it is not illegal to use nitrous on the street, it is however illegal to carry a bottle containing nitrous oxide in a vehicle with out a license.

Pretty much for the same reason as the drags requiring you to have a n02 sticker on your car...so they know to either run to your assistance when you crash or run away cause you have no2 on board !

As far as penalties go I have no idear what they are....

PS: But fuck it do it anyway ! just don`t have the bottle in plain sight and plumb your set-up in fairly hidden... go for it, I have a kit and will use it but the price of the stuff means it won`t happen too soon or very often !

[Jumanji]

AFAIK it is not illegal to use nitrous on the street, it is however illegal to carry a bottle containing nitrous oxide in a vehicle with out a license.

Pretty much for the same reason as the drags requiring you to have a n02 sticker on your car...so they know to either run to your assistance when you crash or run away cause you have no2 on board !

As far as penalties go I have no idear what they are....

PS: But fuck it do it anyway ! just don`t have the bottle in plain sight and plumb your set-up in fairly hidden... go for it, I have a kit and will use it but the price of the stuff means it won`t happen too soon or very often !

Nitrous isnt an explosive chemical as far as i am aware unless there is a fuel and a spark, the worst thing that could happen if it leaked is get you Hella high.

All different size bottles hence easy to plum, run the lines well hidden. and you should be fine.

[Oversteer]

Its liquid oxygen, if there was a fire it would be a 20x bigger flame and much more fierce..... it will also make things that would normally not have a flash ignition ignite...like oils etc.

[James_2007]

Nitrous Oxide, more commonly known and used as laughing gas. At room temperature, it is a colorless non-flammable gas, with a pleasant, slightly sweet odor and taste.

[James_2007]

http://www.nitrousdirect.com/faq.html
number 8

8. Is nitrous oxide flammable?


A: No. Nitrous Oxide by itself is non-flammable.

[Lonewolf]

its an oxidiser so any fire would burn a lot harder, even if its not flammable.
My understanding was that having lines etc (even unconnected) wasnt legal.
That said all I could see is it being a yellow sticker, and most cops wouldnt know the difference as long as its hidden well (no bright anodized nozzles and shiny braid)

[R3N]

Nitrous isnt an explosive chemical as far as i am aware unless there is a fuel and a spark, the worst thing that could happen if it leaked is get you Hella high.

All different size bottles hence easy to plum, run the lines well hidden. and you should be fine.

http://media.screened.com/uploads/0/2365/221738-vlcsnap_2010_05_24_18h52m41s77.jpg

[Jumanji]

http://media.screened.com/uploads/0/2365/221738-vlcsnap_2010_05_24_18h52m41s77.jpg

I see what you did there :D

yes, providing a spark and fuel it would ignite but only if all three were mixed. It shouldnt make things MORE flammable as a result.

EDIT: Either way its good fun, is reliable cheap horsepower gains for minimal work and your time certainly improve.

[Denver]

I heard otherwise from RTA(?) as in, can't have it plumbed up or anything. Heard this ages ago at that Q&A rollaboyz did with the 'head' pit inspector. So it could of changed by then

This was the same head inspector who said you can't have a car with a roll cage that has low set, or no side intrusion that cams will allow on the track..

until i pointed out we'd run a new car the week before that complied to cams and had no side intrusion bar work in it..

read the adr's if its going to be legal it'll be buried in there somewhere, or ring an engineer who signs off on modified cars and ask him..

[Blueraven]

I looked into it about 8 years ago, at that time it was as some have said, you can have the system installed and even the bottle, but no nitrous actually in the bottle or line.

So i said fuck it and put a wet kit in my car(zex- piece of piss to install), it was just a 2.0l NA but it did make a nice difference for the money spent, and with a purge kit it was hella fun. ran a 50shot for at least a year, then pulled it off and sold the kit when i needed some cash. I had the whole system hidden and the bottleinside a built in sub box, using a bass port to reach in and turn the bottle on.

Took nearly a second off my 1/4 mile....tho that doesnt mean much dropping from 15.5 to 14.5 lol.

[beefcake]

was that a calibra ? Sorry OT .

[Blueraven]

heh... yep.

It was a cool car at the time

EDIT: I cant remember who told me but someone suggested to me to install a purge kit so that if you get pulled over you can dump all the gass by the time you stop etc, thus no fine. I never bothered as I had spoken to cops and the pits, and no-one could give me a straight answer other than the whole permit to carry liquid NO2 and at $10 per kg of gas i sure as well wasnt just gonna dump it on the road..

[beefcake]

flash back, i worked on that car, i remember back then that the guy working with me didnt want to dyno it because you installed the nos kit haha , i was new that week to the shop and i was keen as beans to strap it down and see what it could produce, if i recall it needed a bigger pump, it got a bit lean up top ?
Funny thing is after working there for two weeks i couldnt get out of there quicker , shame though it was a good shop back in the day....

[carlos spicy wener]

have also heard you can have it all installed and plumbed, but not physically connected up while driving on the street. not sure of the truth in this.

nitrous oxide is not flammable itself, but if added to a fire will make the fire much larger. also the nos is kept in the bottle under pressure, so if the bottle cracks open in a car fire, the contents will escape making a large explosion.

[Blueraven]

have also heard you can have it all installed and plumbed, but not physically connected up while driving on the street. not sure of the truth in this.

nitrous oxide is not flammable itself, but if added to a fire will make the fire much larger. also the nos is kept in the bottle under pressure, so if the bottle cracks open in a car fire, the contents will escape making a large explosion.

Not necessarily true, you can actually put a fire OUT with NO2. BUt yeah I have head so many variations of what you were allowed I just said whatev and did it.

Beefcake I heard formaz ended badly...real bad. And yeah i changed the fuel jets on the kit and it made a whopping 135hp at the wheels (i think it was just over 100hp atw stock). It was fun, learned alot, and if my audi didnt run a bajillion bar fuel pressure i would probably throw a kit on it for shits and giggles.

[carlos spicy wener]

Not necessarily true, you can actually put a fire OUT with NO2. BUt yeah I have head so many variations of what you were allowed I just said whatev and did it.

Beefcake I heard formaz ended badly...real bad. And yeah i changed the fuel jets on the kit and it made a whopping 135hp at the wheels (i think it was just over 100hp atw stock). It was fun, learned alot, and if my audi didnt run a bajillion bar fuel pressure i would probably throw a kit on it for shits and giggles.

yes but only certain types of fire.

but in most cases adding nitrous oxide or NO2 (which contains 1 nitrogen atom, and 2 oxygen atoms) will help fuel the fire. fire needs 4 things to keep burning, heat, oxygen, fuel of some sort, and a spark.

[HIKARI]

Everybody's forgetting pressure. It's not flammable at atmospheric pressure and temperature, pressure along with high heat is required to separate the compound into two parts nitrogen and one part oxygen. The oxygen is an oxidizer and shit will go down when exposed to flame.

OP, I was also asking around before and answers I got is that you can have the lines but no nitrous bottles must be present in your vehicle.

[HIKARI]

yes but only certain types of fire.

but in most cases adding nitrous oxide or NO2 (which contains 1 nitrogen atom, and 2 oxygen atoms) will help fuel the fire. fire needs 4 things to keep burning, heat, oxygen, fuel of some sort, and a spark.

N2O (di-nitrous oxide)

[2jzlux]

Thanks for the replies but does anyone know the penalty if you are caught with it hooked up with the bottle on?

[Satan]

Its liquid oxygen, if there was a fire it would be a 20x bigger flame and much more fierce..... it will also make things that would normally not have a flash ignition ignite...like oils etc.

liquid O2 eh??? BWAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA!!

[Oversteer]

Not technically but what is its role in its use ?... to add ? expands from a lquid to !? 2000+ times its original volume. anything constructive to add besides that you smart fuck ?

OP I can`t remeber anyone getting busted with N02 hooked up, maybe you`ll just get a yellow or maybe a red chances are the cop that gets won`t know of anything better to hit you with.

[Jumanji]

Thanks for the replies but does anyone know the penalty if you are caught with it hooked up with the bottle on?

IF your not an asshole to the the cop probably a yellow, and you'd get chewed out for 10 mins. The legalities of it are so " grey area " that i havent heard of anyone who has copped the fine for having it. That being said, speak to the DPI they have to give you an answer as its their area of expertise.

EDIT: Oversteer, there is no such thing as a Red Sticker anymore. They just put a yellow in the middle of your windscreen.