Red light camera firebombed

[n1ghth4wk]

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western-australia/red-light-camera-torched/story-e6frg13u-1226109646438

Some people are 'mad bro' by the looks of it. Only a matter of time before it happened considering all the ones in the UK getting smashed up.

[Ryan1080]

I'm surprised it took someone this long lol.

Good stuff.

[mazgem]

good on them. the fuckers are everywhere now

[[FFOUR]]

Yeah awesome...guess who is paying for the repairs?

Lowlife trash, personally I hope they get caught.

[shifted]

Will be happy to see more of this happen!

Don't some of these have CCTV around them though? At least one I saw in Mirrabooka stated it did?

[MrSparkle]

Firebombing probably wont do much damage. Need someone out there with a 9 inch and take the whole thing.

[Ryan1080]

;883731']Yeah awesome...guess who is paying for the repairs?

Lowlife trash, personally I hope they get caught.

It will come out of the speeding revenue, so who cares. They make so much money from this, you can destroy one per week, and the govt will still be ahead.

[Buckets]

Needs more of this to do the job properly...

http://www.didyouknow.it/timthumb.php?src=http://www.didyouknow.it/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/dynamite1.jpg&w=220&q=100

[colt75]

i bet it still works..

[TJ]

Should also burn those who approved it use and fitment.

[evil.e30]

about time

[devilfish]

the cameras firebombed in the uk are fixed SPEED cameras, firebombing red light cameras is stupid..

[MrSparkle]

But now they do both so its twice the target :P

[TJ]

the cameras firebombed in the uk are fixed SPEED cameras, firebombing red light cameras is stupid..

So is the one they set on fire last night.

[n1ghth4wk]

Prefer they took out the speedo ones but hey, 1 down, 29 to go. Doubt it's internals are fried though, the cases are pretty strong.
Also looks like it must have been rammed by the photo?

[Jais]

Easier to paint the little lens cover black so it believes it's working as per normal... but must've been a good shot to hit that if they were on the fly

[RICEY]

;883731']Yeah awesome...guess who is paying for the repairs?

Lowlife trash, personally I hope they get caught.

Retarded statement. Are they going to come to your house with the bill, or will it come out of taxes that you would normally pay anyway even if this hadnt occured?

[Torquen]

Needs more of these...

http://i546.photobucket.com/albums/hh406/jshakersgmailcom/259603-collar-bomb.jpg

To soon? :p

[Madhav]

Very happy to see this, hope to see more. Hope it starts a new trend

[Buckets]

^ LOL @ the collar bomb. But a ring of 10gm red cord would do the trick.

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Edit: Don't try this at home or on your nearest revenue camera...

[HIKARI]

Tyres + petrol + hang around the camera unit = long lasting burn

[XF Falcon]

Don't use a performance tyre though, or they will blame hoons!

[2jzlux]

Needs more thermite

[mehow2g]

Spraying the lense should be happening for a long time now I don't have enough guts to do it but I hope someone does it and other follow.

[mr_mike]

its times like these i appreciate the drop kicks of society, cos i'm willing to bet it wouldnt of been some law abiding car enthusiast or something that done this. It would of been one of the Unit wearing, southern cross tat, VS executive drivers that everyone complains about that would of had no thought for the consquences of doing something like this and just gone out and done it.

[Kaido]

Wow can't believe people approve this sort of behavior .

If you are dumb enough to run a red-light you desever to be fine

[luke20t]

Wow can't believe people approve this sort of behavior .

If you are dumb enough to run a red-light you desever to be fine

The red light isnt really the issue, its getting flashed for going a couple k's over!

[Blueraven]

Speed camera - trash it and I will cheer you on.
Red light camera - Sorry but if you think running red lights is ok...well keep running them hopefully you will be removed from the genepool WITHOUT taking someone elses life.

[mr_mike]

speed camera or redlight camera it doesnt matter its just a big FUCK YOU to the government

[Halle Terry]

Why destroy a red light camera? If you run a red you deserved to be punished.

Would of been far more pleased had they done it to a regular multinova.

[BOSS 290]

Now the muppets on Perthnow have told everyone there are cctv camera's 'watching' the fixed speed camera's one now simply needs to wear a balaclava to ensure identity is not established. Attempting to burn them may not achieve much, I'd rather lift the lids on the pits and pull the cabling to the loops cut in the road. Destroying the cabling will 100% gaurantee the camera won't work and the repair bill will be huge!

[Ryan1080]

So many people commenting that it's a red light camera... yes, it snaps you when you go thorugh red light, but it is also a SPEED CAMERA too.

I have no problem with red light only cameras. I've never ran a red light in my life, and it's a good thing to have, coz people who do run red lights are dangerous.

But, the camera in question is also a speed camera. I'm willing to bet my left testicle that 99% of the times it flashes is when people are driving a tad bit over the limit across the green lights, not red. $$$ for the govt, nothing else.

[alexinperth]

Which of the wire loops in the road do you need to cut to only disable the speed measurement?

[shifted]

So that way it still functions as if it were normal and no one is any wiser while not issuing any speed limits? Good idea!

[BOSS 290]

Which of the wire loops in the road do you need to cut to only disable the speed measurement?

I don't think you can disable one, they are both used by the camera to establish time and distance.

I'll bring a lid lifting key with me tonight, perhaps I can illustrate which cables to pull if we happen to come across one. i I just need someone to supply a balaclava :)

[Yakky Bear]

i have a beanie

[JBAE]

EXCELLENT just a shame the persons involved didnt do it in such a cave man way and prols not done alot of damage!

[n1ghth4wk]

Organizing cruise meet points are at remaining cameras n shit will pass servos to refuel bottles

[ELUSIV]

As others have said they are combined red light / speed cameras made by a Melbourne company called Redflex. They are next to impossible to argue your way out of due to their apparently accuracy and reliability e.g. using piezo-electric detectors (wireless self-contained and basically drilled into the road at certain points and is not a loop style system afaik).
I'm in two minds about this because on one hand we know that a large number of accidents occur at intersections and that speeding ultimately increases the likelihood of a fatality occurring. However, having been rear-ended three times by driver's who were following too close and when i've had to stop quickly makes me think that perhaps it is safer for a driver to go 5 km/h quicker to get through the orange and avoid an accident.

I'll sit on the fence for now, the austech guys seem to be having a good discussion about legalities and the technology being used:

http://www.austech.info/electronics/4074-redflex-fixed-speed-red-light-camera-internals.html

[protecon]

Tyre over top + flames = no babies.

If they're technically fixed speed cameras - why aren't there warning signs like the rest of the country?

[1JZVL]

Needs more thermite

Dunno if the United States has anymore left after 9/11.............


cough.


Anyways, good to see this has happened! Hope that every single one of them gets attacked or damaged....

[Tom]

Going to wait a while, see if they catch them. If not, I'm giving my mate a call. He works in the explosives section of the mining industry (Y)

[JBAE]

LOL yup coz im sure you would 100% follow through with that ahahaha Prove me wrong DARE YA!

[Buckets]

Going to wait a while, see if they catch them. If not, I'm giving my mate a call. He works in the explosives section of the mining industry (Y)

Yep they are going to risk a minimum of 10 years in a high security Hilton to knock off a few speed cameras... Why don't you try cooking it yourself, easy as to find a recipe for the ol' terrorist favorite "Spawn of Satan" on Google. If your still here afterwards PM me. :)

[shifted]

Going to wait a while, see if they catch them. If not, I'm giving my mate a call. He works in the explosives section of the mining industry (Y)

Plenty of "anarchist cookbooks" available on the net. :)

[BOSS 290]

As others have said they are combined red light / speed cameras made by a Melbourne company called Redflex. They are next to impossible to argue your way out of due to their apparently accuracy and reliability e.g. using piezo-electric detectors (wireless self-contained and basically drilled into the road at certain points and is not a loop style system afaik).
I'm in two minds about this because on one hand we know that a large number of accidents occur at intersections and that speeding ultimately increases the likelihood of a fatality occurring. However, having been rear-ended three times by driver's who were following too close and when i've had to stop quickly makes me think that perhaps it is safer for a driver to go 5 km/h quicker to get through the orange and avoid an accident.

I'll sit on the fence for now, the austech guys seem to be having a good discussion about legalities and the technology being used:

http://www.austech.info/electronics/4074-redflex-fixed-speed-red-light-camera-internals.html

The camera's do use a loop system, spaced at predefined distance and calibrated to suite. There is no other method of detecting speed with these devices.

As I mentioned earlier to fuck these systems up and cause massive repair bills is to do the following:
1. look where all the cables from the loops (there may be as many as 8 of them) run into the curb (you'll see the saw cut marks and silastic covering the loop cabling)
2. The cabling will run to a pit (with a removable lid, think Telstra comms pit)
3. Remove pit lid
4. Grab cables with and cut them. They are not powered, so if you get electricuted you've cut the wrong cables!
5. Cut cables at both ends i.e. where they run in from the road and where they feed into the camera.

To repair the damage to the cabling will probably account for 50% of the installation charge as it will be likely the cables will need to be reinstalled into the road.

Although not as spectacular as setting a camera on fire this method will incur a greater cost and time delay in repair.

[2JZA70]

these cameras are turning into a hazard!! Most of the time whe I go thru one im doing 58kms(DIGI DASH) peeps in front panic and slow down to 50-40kms even yesterday some douche bag braked heavily in panic stupid idiots!!

[KeeddleZ]

set the actual pit on fire?

[Mad_Aussie]

The camera's do use a loop system, spaced at predefined distance and calibrated to suite. There is no other method of detecting speed with these devices.

I'm not trying to sound like a smart arse, but if this is the case with the speed detection on these, then what are the little white-faced radar boxes (? ) for at these intersections?

[Stealthed]

I'm not trying to sound like a smart arse, but if this is the case with the speed detection on these, then what are the little white-faced radar boxes (? ) for at these intersections?

I was under the impression that they were the speed reading device. I don't agree with going around and destroying them as anyone who runs a red light needs to be drawn and quattered as I've seen far too many accidents because some bloke decided to run the light, However the speed measuring through intersections approaches me as revenue raising.

You shouldn't be fined for making a split second estimate as to whether you're to close to the line to brake for the yellow light or to accelarate slightly and pass through within the time frame before a red light, now if someone happens to have a slightly delayed reaction they may still make it through no issues, however they now recieve a nice fine in the mail even though no one was put in harms way and they had plenty of time to pass through on a yellow light etc etc..

I've always thought sooner or later someone with a crossbow would fire a bolt through the radar box/camera..

[Mad_Aussie]

Thanks, that was the impression I was under. The induction loops detect cars passing on the red, while the radar pegs speed.

I just feel that they need to be sign posted. The cameras are clearly a revenue-raiser as no one is aware that they are speed cameras. A big sign before the camera will slow people down, and while you won't get all that lovely revenue from it, people won't die from speeding through the intersection. Which is the real point of them.. or at least the point we are 'told' is the reason.

[Stealthed]

Thanks, that was the impression I was under. The induction loops detect cars passing on the red, while the radar pegs speed.

I just feel that they need to be sign posted. The cameras are clearly a revenue-raiser as no one is aware that they are speed cameras. A big sign before the camera will slow people down, and while you won't get all that lovely revenue from it, people won't die from speeding through the intersection. Which is the real point of them.. or at least the point we are 'told' is the reason.

I'd like to see the statistics for speed related crashes through an intersection, of course a few may have occurred but the biggest factor should be people running red lights and of course as you've seen firsthand "Mad_Aussie" people not paying attention and rear ending someone!

They have put small signs up with a picture of a camera on some roads before you approach but nothing like NSW which I quite like as they do slow people down. The old man has gotten out of a speeding fine before as he was flashed going along a straight piece of road (Marmion Ave near tamala park) and he sent some letters in arguing how many fatalities there had been in that spot as that is the supposed reason they'll place a camera there... the answer was none and they withdrew the fine, obviously if they announced it was none then it’d be seen as revenue raising.

[Ryan1080]

I spent about half an hour yesterday programing each location into my satnav, now it beeps when I am about 400 metres away from them, so plenty of warning. Could be an idea for most people.

[V70R]

Why destroy a red light camera? If you run a red you deserved to be punished.

These are hybrid cameras. They will flash when you pass through a green light as well.
I got done by one on Canning Hwy doing 69 in 60 zone while travelling through side by side another car.
I paid the fine and simply got on with my life. Shit happens.

[BOSS 290]

I'm not trying to sound like a smart arse, but if this is the case with the speed detection on these, then what are the little white-faced radar boxes (? ) for at these intersections?

It is a flash light I believe. I've never had my radar detector alert me of radar or lidar approaching or departing a fixed speed/red light camera.

[Phyber]

Yeah, sit and watch them go off, those are flash bulb boxes with a nice diffuser lens on them I believe.

Spotted what I believe was and AL cruise on Saturday night 10 something pm, driving out of Marjorie ave onto Leach, towards the now burnt camera.

I like the idea of setting fire to the whole pit, hahaha. Shame you can't target only the speed camera easily and leave the red light snapper.

[Jumanji]

The red light camera on the corner of Woodrow ave and Alexander Dr ihas duct tape covering it and has done for the last couple of months or so. Im waiting to see how long it takes before someone notices :) its funny when it goes off, you just see a very small bright light.

[Jimmy_S]

They do have warning signs leading up to the lights with the speed-camera active... They are a big camera sign... Any of the old ones with just the red light camera active have a similar sign with 'Red Light' written underneath the camera..

[Ryan1080]

The red light camera on the corner of Woodrow ave and Alexander Dr ihas duct tape covering it and has done for the last couple of months or so. Im waiting to see how long it takes before someone notices :) its funny when it goes off, you just see a very small bright light.

Should have put the tape on the lenses.

Anyone have a paintball gun? Aim from a distance and shoot yellow paint at the pingpingpingping... Hopefully won't be noticed for a while.

How do they get their pics? Does it get uploaded automatically, or is there somebody driving around swapping over memory cards?

[JBAE]

few globs of grease should fix their wagons! if they are so lazy with cleaning them! if you wanted to neutralise them in a passive anger spec way!

[Yakky Bear]

im pretty sure they are an online thing. get pinged. gets sent straight back to the database.

[n1ghth4wk]

I spent about half an hour yesterday programing each location into my satnav, now it beeps when I am about 400 metres away from them, so plenty of warning. Could be an idea for most people.

Thanks for that, I didn't know you could do that. I'll have to try with mine tomorrow.

Also, if someone gets caught putting duct tape over a camera, is that vandalism or is it criminal damage?

[Yakky Bear]

Thanks for that, I didn't know you could do that. I'll have to try with mine tomorrow.

Also, if someone gets caught putting duct tape over a camera, is that vandalism or is it criminal damage?

good point , wouldnt be obstruction of justice or something along those lines?

[Jumanji]

Thanks for that, I didn't know you could do that. I'll have to try with mine tomorrow.

Also, if someone gets caught putting duct tape over a camera, is that vandalism or is it criminal damage?

Vandalism i assume, personally as many have said on here if your dumb enough to go through a red light then you deserve the fine. but I drive past it and have a laugh at it :)

[Ryan1080]

Thanks for that, I didn't know you could do that. I'll have to try with mine tomorrow.

I think most aftermarket satnavs would have these pre-installed? I got an ancient in comparison factory satnav, those don't tend to have speed traps stored, so I entered a custom POI at each intersection and I assigned a certain type of an icon that makes a noise when approaching it. Works perfectly lol.

[shifted]

Trapster lists most of these?

The intersection with Garrett Rd & Guildford Rd is fun to watch at 6:30 - 7:30 am - it is just flash after flash after flash at each light change. Green lights, yellow lights - all the same.

[n1ghth4wk]

Trapster fucks up my Internet usage massively. 1GB plan ftl

[P100_Ute]

this thread has a map with all the locations labled. just gotta download the jpg.. think its a meg in size
http://www.antilag.com/forums/showthread.php?48117-All-30-dual-redlight-amp-speed-camera-locations-amp-their-direction

*edit* i clicked link to make sure its still there and its not.

Sorry, the file you requested is not available.
The file has been deleted by the uploader. sendspace is not able to help you in this matter.
I still have it saved on my computer from when it was working tho. just need to find sumwhere to reup it o if anyone is interested..


also upon clicking the PN link.. has this under the heading for the facebook thing.. had a laugh when i read his name sitting there,

Recommend - Kael McCutcheon and 230 others recommend this.

[BIGS]

Wasn't it on top gear that some guy used glad wrap to cover the camera's? Apparently it takes the photo but the number plates can't be made out.