1jz-gte in to 1990 hilux 4x4 ?

[Steven_c]

Hey guys I know this is going to be a stupid question...

Was wondering how hard it is to do the conversion.. I am very mechanical minded and have lots of experience with fabricating..

So what I have

The hilux is a 1990 2.8 diesel man 4x4
What do I need for the conversion?
I already have the 1jz-gte enginee complete with wiring and ecu..

Has anyone got any details on list I might need?


Custom engine mounts, bell housing, type of fly wheel clutch?


As much info on this as possible would be great many thanks steve

[Niva]

plenty of threads on the net about people putting jz's in hilux's.

Plan on keeping 4x4? (please do!!)

[Aristoman]

PM mxracer / 2jzlux, they're Hilux fanatics....

Thread:

http://www.antilag.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47224

[Niva]

http://www.boostcruising.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=721037

[mxracer]

PM mxracer / 2jzlux, they're Hilux fanatics....

Thread:

http://www.antilag.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47224

not 4wd's jamie

[Steven_c]

yeh plan on keeping the hilux, come across a cheap 1jz with wiring so i was wondering what to do with it... my main issue is matching the engine to my gearbox..


cheers guys..

[Aristoman]

not 4wd's jamie

Hilux close enough :)

[Niva]

do the hilux have a seperate gearbox / transfare case? if so put the r154? in and use the hilux t/c, probably have to move it back i would imagain, so custom drive shafts would be in order.

how much clearence under the sump do the 1j in hilux conversions have, would imagain that could be a problem with the extra diff under there?

[Steven_c]

i will get some pictures posted up..

there is loads of clearance under the engine to front diff..

what do you mean a r154? is this the bell housing case? also where would i get one?

[Niva]

i 'think' thats the supra 5 speed

[Aristoman]

i 'think' thats the supra 5 speed

THIS ^

[Steven_c]

so i would take the supra 5 speed bell housing or complete gearbox? i heard that lexus is also the same, i could use.. cheers

[Steven_c]

http://users.tpg.com.au/users/loats/technical/ma61/gearboxes2.html

[Niva]

whole gearbox would be better? then just put the hilux transfare case on the back of it if its seperate


* i might not be the best person to be giving advice, i just dropped a screw down my carby

[lysdexia]

unsure if yours will have it, i'm not up on hilux model codes or engine sizes. what you need though is the R151 from whatever model hilux has it (i think it's the 2.8TD from memory)

you then need to use the input shaft and bellhousing from a supra R154. using these, it will all fit together, you'll have a strong gearbox, and the 4wd works as factory

[Niva]

^ this is why i stay out of these threads haha

[MrSparkle]

I'm pretty sure you still need a custom bell housing to do the 1jz - r151f (big toyota 4wd gearbox found behind v6 hilux's/forerunners and td models or surfs have them too i think) because the input shafts are different lengths. The great thing is you can buy a bell housing to suit because lots of ppl have done it in the past. Try dellow to get the bell housing you need.

Please let me know how you go - So many surfs shit the engines and go cheap as chips and more than half of them have the right gearbox for the conversion. Plus 1/2js are reasonably priced. Not the greatest for crawling or mud but everyone could use 250/300 hp on the beach.

[Niva]

I have a v6 surf with blown motor about to put in the forsale. you can have first preferance :)

edit, has the r151f box

double edit, its a 4runner

[mxracer]

Hilux close enough :)

na mate totally different , 4wd have a trasfer case hanging from the gearbox

but depends what model hilux have

http://www.4wdstuff.co.nz/jzbellR150

and dellow do kits too
http://www.dellowconversions.com.au/images/DellowAutomotive.pdf

but those are with r151 surf / hilux manuals

there is a fair bit of info out there

[shifted]

Keep us posted on your progress, if my 2.8D shits itself I will be looking down a 1JZ-GTE/2JZ-GE route and am keen to see how yours pans out!

1JZ-GTE/R154 half cut JZA70 from KYP was just priced at $3k, probably not the best deal (not sure as have never looked) but I guess it depends what the Hilux will need when the time comes.

[mxracer]

Keep us posted on your progress, if my 2.8D shits itself I will be looking down a 1JZ-GTE/2JZ-GE route and am keen to see how yours pans out!

1JZ-GTE/R154 half cut JZA70 from KYP was just priced at $3k, probably not the best deal (not sure as have never looked) but I guess it depends what the Hilux will need when the time comes.

depends , cause if u spend 3k at kyp half cut , it prob be screwed anyway and ull be up for more cash getting stuff fixed.

i know where there is a complete aristo / auto 2jzgte half cut for $2800 , just make sure u got a r151 box setup , get the bell housing and slap her in

[Steven_c]

depends , cause if u spend 3k at kyp half cut , it prob be screwed anyway and ull be up for more cash getting stuff fixed.

i know where there is a complete aristo / auto 2jzgte half cut for $2800 , just make sure u got a r151 box setup , get the bell housing and slap her in

Cheers for the input guys gives me alot more to go on

Will keep you posted picking up a dead 1jz tonight so I can use it as a mock up,

The body will be coming off the hilux cos I am doing this right and it's getting a body lift at the same time.. Let's start the fun and games..

I take it I use the 1jz clutch flywheel to match up to the r151 gearbox set up..

[Steven_c]

Looking for my 4x4 gearbox code and I've come up with G52 /G285 does this sound right?
Also spoke to dellow conversion and they can make a plate to adapt for the 4x4 gearbox to the 1jz...

[2jzlux]

A g52 wont last long behind a 1j/2j gte.

[Steven_c]

A g52 wont last long behind a 1j/2j gte.


Really doesn't sound good....

[MrSparkle]

You need the big box mate.

The g52 doesnt last behind a 3.8 commo engine :(.

Try to do it minus the bodylift.

[MrSparkle]

I have a v6 surf with blown motor about to put in the forsale. you can have first preferance :)

edit, has the r151f box

double edit, its a 4runner

Sorry for double post, I'm not perfect.


This is a good candidate for conversion because it came with a 3l v6 engineering for 2jz shouldnt be impossible because engine is the same size. :P I would be all over it like a fat kid on a cupcake but it's just bad timing. :(

[manual]

Sorry for double post, I'm not perfect.


This is a good candidate for conversion because it came with a 3l v6 engineering for 2jz shouldnt be impossible because engine is the same size. :P I would be all over it like a fat kid on a cupcake but it's just bad timing. :(

except the straight 6 is a lot longer than the V6 ...

we have a 4runner and have looked into conversions .... the 4L 1UZ is the more common as is the 3.4L 5VZ-FE out of the prado.

as mentioned the G52 will be no good, will need the R151F out of the 4runner ...

another issue (not sure on this) is the fuel setup - converting from diesel to petrol ... just because you have the hilux and the 1JZ - doesn't mean this will be a cheap and easy :D

though ... wish you all the best ... would be good fun!!

[Steven_c]

So I should have no problem using the 4 runner gearbox and bolting it and mounting it up in my duel cab hilux... Next question how much for the box?

[manual]

So I should have no problem using the 4 runner gearbox and bolting it and mounting it up in my duel cab hilux... Next question how much for the box?

This guy has one on perthsurf:

ITEM: r150f complete 5 speed, suit Hilux/4runner v8 conversion, diesel 2.8 4runner or 2.4lt surf
CONDITION: used, good
REASON FOR SELLING: now have a spare, pretty sure I dont need it
PRICE AND PRICE CONDITIONS: $750
EXTRA INFO/CONTACT DETAILS:comes with near new 4T heavy duty clutch kit Jared 0422117784
LOCATION: Bunbury, can deliver to Perth with notice
PICTURES:can post if need be

might be worth shopping around though ...

might also be worth talking to these guys: http://www.perth4x4.net/forum/showthread.php?p=293561

have done all sorts of conversions into 4runners / surfs etc ...

[ovaxitd]

may help someone . 2jzge swap into hilux.
http://perth.gumtree.com.au/c-Cars-Vehicles-Motorbikes-Parts-van-ute-1989-SINGLE-CAB-HILUX-2JZ-GE-SWAP-W0QQAdIdZ294047329

[shifted]

That Hilux ovaxitd posted is owned by one of the guys on supraforums daughter's bf. Just spoke to him earlier on it in regard to bits and pieces.

Transplant of wiring over with engine, how difficult to get everything running?

[2jzlux]

Wiring is the easy part need about 6 wires to get it running but the rest is fucking around getting the small stuff to work.
Mine is pretty much the same as that one but extracab 2wd manual and it doesnt go to bad.
Auto would probably be an easier way to solve the gearbox issues as they both run a340's.

[on18s]

get a r154 and a r150/1 mix and match parts so you dont need adapters.
g285 is a 4.3 ratio diff i would be swapping for something lower so its not screaming on hwy.

[joshg123]

have worked on one, was set up on a 3L diesel gearbox. came in with slipping clutch..... put a new clutch in it and took it on a road test. gently pushed 3rd gear to make sure clutch didnt slip under boost and it punched the gearset out the back of the casing and fucked 3rd gear.......

definatly, dont use the 3L gearbox

[MrSparkle]

get a r154 and a r150/1 mix and match parts so you dont need adapters.
g285 is a 4.3 ratio diff i would be swapping for something lower so its not screaming on hwy.

99% sure this cant be done without the adapters. The r151f bellhousing bolts up to the 1j but the input shaft is too short and wont sit in the spigot bearing.

[on18s]

use input shaft from 154 in 151 case

[Steven_c]

Sweet for the info guys.. Going to look and buy a hilux surf gearbox this week hopefully it is the r151 gearbox, does anyone know how to check, where the code is? Cheers

[MrSparkle]

use input shaft from 154 in 151 case

Second post on this page.

http://www.yotatech.com/f158/93-landcruser-prado-2jzge-228132/

[Bombaman]

If you have access to a machine shop, thought about a T56 behind the 1jz?

http://v-eight.com/tech_forum/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=1458

[Steven_c]

Am I right in saying the r151 box comes out of a land crusier aswell as surf and 4runner..

[Steven_c]

Picked the 1jz engine up last night to use as a mock up.. Gearbox tomorrow night..

[DanWA]

My Hilux has had a V6 Conversion & Dyna box since the 90's and handles the torque fine so should be good to go with a stock JZ

[Risk10k]

Why not just put in 3rz.......

[Steven_c]

R151 gearboxes are hard to find...