R33 wont run

[Kickit]

i just put a fmic on my r33. drove it to the shops before i done it. everything was fine. put the fmic on. went to start it after i done it all and it wouldnt start, cleaned afm, disconnected battery to try reset the computer, got another afm and it still wont go. it starts runs for 5 seconds then turns off.

read online before that it a r33 has more then 238rwkts it wont run with a stock afm. dont think it has that much power yet.

anyone know what might be wrong?

[mys1]

Check eveything you touched, It will be that, Intercooler blocked? or piping? Did you check there wasnt a rag in it or anything?

[Kickit]

Check eveything you touched, It will be that, Intercooler blocked? or piping? Did you check there wasnt a rag in it or anything?

there was the small pipe that covers the coolerr when you get it in the intake to the turbo. shouldnt of blocked it or anything, cheaked all of it and it still wont go. its being like a women!

[ForgedV6]

Does it have an aftermarket tune & ECU? Is there an inbuilt security feature that you have activated by disconnecting the battery? Like some Kalmakers.

They start but only run for 5 seconds

[Mad_Aussie]

a women!

So is it being like one woman, or several?

[Kickit]

Does it have an aftermarket tune & ECU? Is there an inbuilt security feature that you have activated by disconnecting the battery? Like some Kalmakers.

They start but only run for 5 seconds

it was imported. i dont think its been tuned or anything that i know of. just has an immobiliser

[Kickit]

So is it being like one woman, or several?

its being a bitch dog pingpingpingping asshole haha ect

[mys1]

Drive it over tonight, 5 seconds at a time, and Ill look at it for you

[yeahlow34]

Drive it over tonight, 5 seconds at a time, and Ill look at it for you

LOL

[TJ]

You ripped the wires from the afc plug...

[Kickit]

You ripped the wires from the afc plug...

pulled it apart to see if it was fucked haha.

[mxracer]

its a nissan . just bin it . buy a toyota

[Bomber]

Kick it.

If that doesn't work, hit it with a hammer.

If the problem persists, it would be an electrical fault.

[Marti]

you may have disconnected the crank angle sensor or pulled on the wires id check that and make sure its plugged in.

[Denver]

if the cas was disconnected, it wouldn't run..

sounds kinda like the fuel pump isn't running, its priming, but not running when the car does, but the options are endless, check every connection, mainly the cas/afm/tps/idle control..

mkke sure the fuel pump is running, make sure you haven't somehow disconnected an idle control vacum line, or have a huge vacum leak somewhere..

[streatracer]

read online before that it a r33 has more then 238rwkts it wont run with a stock afm.

Not at all true. the internet is full of lies!

really sounds like you've left a pipe disconnected somewhere. Sometimes they can look connected but just be sitting against each other. Grab them all and give them a shake to check every connection is nice and tight. Also check the small rubber pipe that connects to your intake pipe just to the right of where your stock blow off valve sits.

Your car still runs an afm so everything has to be airtight, NO LEAKS :D

(sorry if this is all obvious but best start with basics haha)

[Macca]

probably too far away from the ocean. Give gerrin a call and tow it to freo wharf and try there

[DISTRBD]

probably too far away from the ocean. Give gerrin a call and tow it to freo wharf and try there

He lives in Albany , should feel right at home there .

[Kickit]

nothing but cold weather here.
its weird, i drove it to bunnings the done cooler and now it wont go. i think it is the afm wiring. i did pull on it a little but didnt think it would of done anything to it :S. theres a little pipe loose that went to the stock boost controller. anyone know if its a useless pipe? :S
just wish it would run so i can see how much more power it has! arghhhhh haha

[Milhouse]

Put a screw in the end of that vacumm line and try start it prehaps ?

[kurbn]

sounds like air bypassing the AFM, check EVERY intercooler pipe connection. does the car start and run really really rough and stall?

if so I have my money on a big cooler hose/pipe leak. Pull on every connection, just make sure the AFM is plugged in also ;)

If it ran fine before the cooler install its going to be that, I've installed lots of cooler kits on RB's and they always start up fine straight after.

[Kickit]

sounds like air bypassing the AFM, check EVERY intercooler pipe connection. does the car start and run really really rough and stall?

if so I have my money on a big cooler hose/pipe leak. Pull on every connection, just make sure the AFM is plugged in also ;)

If it ran fine before the cooler install its going to be that, I've installed lots of cooler kits on RB's and they always start up fine straight after.

starts up and fan kicks in then bam! turns off. im going to pull all the pipes off and have a look. then i hope it runs!

[S_E]

Popped a cooler pipe off when you first drove it?

[TJ]

It probably wont make any extra hp with a cooler, you do know that.

It just means the air you produce wont fry your pistons

[mARC]

Have you tried going back to stock again and seeing if you have the same problem?

[Kickit]

Popped a cooler pipe off when you first drove it?

havnt drove it yet! haha.


Have you tried going back to stock again and seeing if you have the same problem?

nah its going to doms work shop monday to be put on computer.
it runs fine on limp mode then when i plug the afm in it kills it abit.
gunna ring autoworx and see if they know what it is

[Risk10k]

nothing but cold weather here.
its weird, i drove it to bunnings the done cooler and now it wont go. i think it is the afm wiring. i did pull on it a little but didnt think it would of done anything to it :S. theres a little pipe loose that went to the stock boost controller. anyone know if its a useless pipe? :S
just wish it would run so i can see how much more power it has! arghhhhh haha

Attach pipe onto the solenoid and blank it off with a screw and a cable tie.....



No, really. FFS.

[mr_mike]

are you 100% sure u are plugging the AFM wires in in the correct pins seeing as the plug is fuct.
I wouldnt be suprised if you have plugged them in wrong and its fried the AFM, then gone and plugged a diffrent AFM in to c if that was the prob but plugged it in wrong again and blown another AFM.

[Kickit]

are you 100% sure u are plugging the AFM wires in in the correct pins seeing as the plug is fuct.
I wouldnt be suprised if you have plugged them in wrong and its fried the AFM, then gone and plugged a diffrent AFM in to c if that was the prob but plugged it in wrong again and blown another AFM.

nah coz i didnt touch the afm when i put it in. it was all good. cheaked a mates skyline to make sure its right. so its not that. the computer should tell me whats wrong with it

[S_E]

havnt drove it yet! haha.



ah, I thought it was you fitted the cooler, THEN drove to bunnings and back, then it wouldn't run..


I'm still going with something disconnected or a pipe off.

[Kickit]

ah, I thought it was you fitted the cooler, THEN drove to bunnings and back, then it wouldn't run..


I'm still going with something disconnected or a pipe off.

theres no leaks coz i cheaked when i started it on limp mode. im going with wiring is stuffed somehow :S

[mr_mike]

*checked


I'd pull the cooler pipes out again and have a good look over everything in the areas they run and make sure you havent knocked any plugs out. Then if you find nothing closly inspect all the wiring loom in the area as you may of sliced into the loom by accident and its earthing out.

If it runs in limp mode then dies when u plug the AFM in then there is a pretty good chance this is the issue, if a working AFM is swapped in and the issue is still there then logic would tell you that its a problem with the loom.

Taking it to a mechanic to plug in "the computer" is not gonna tell you if there is an issue with the loom.

[2jzlux]

You will find that the wires going to the air flow meter will be broken/loose.
It will turn on your fuel pump for a little bit to prime your fuel rail while cranking and if the ecu doesnt get a signal from the afm to say the engine is running it will turn off the pump=engine dies.
It does this so if you have an accident and your engine stalls with a fuel line broken it wont pump out more fuel onto the ground around the car.
This is how it works with toyota's with an afm, pretty sure nissan poo will be the same.

[Kickit]

You will find that the wires going to the air flow meter will be broken/loose.
It will turn on your fuel pump for a little bit to prime your fuel rail while cranking and if the ecu doesnt get a signal from the afm to say the engine is running it will turn off the pump=engine dies.
It does this so if you have an accident and your engine stalls with a fuel line broken it wont pump out more fuel onto the ground around the car.
This is how it works with toyota's with an afm, pretty sure nissan poo will be the same.

ill get a multi meter on it and see if its getting power

[2jzlux]

Dont assume it will be giving out 12v it could be just providing an earth to the ecu.

[millzy_88]

Are you sure the intercooler is the correct way round????

But on a more serious note, its going to be something you touched doing the job as someone else said so just check everything you touched, not that hard.

[Kickit]

Are you sure the intercooler is the correct way round????

But on a more serious note, its going to be something you touched doing the job as someone else said so just check everything you touched, not that hard.

is this right? haha
http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt14/05vscommodore96/IMG_6459.jpg

[mr_mike]

is this right? haha
http://i593.photobucket.com/albums/tt14/05vscommodore96/IMG_6459.jpg

http://facepalm.delapalo.net/facepalm1.jpg

[Steppo_GT]

Are you sure the intercooler is the correct way round????



LOL Troll post of the year!

[BIGS]

Have you tried kicking it?



Sorry couldn't help myself.

[2jzlux]

That ash cloud must be really thick down in Albany.

[Kickit]

havnt tried kicking it. lol.
its getting everything pulled apart tommorow and looking at everything

[mys1]

P.s. It won't make any more power as a result of putting the cooler on, it will actually make it a little less responsive in the current trim.

[millzy_88]

is this right? haha

lol! maybe you should get someone else to check its been installed correctly.

[Kickit]

lol! maybe you should get someone else to check its been installed correctly.

that was a joke..
iv had 2 mechanics look at it. they have looked everything over. they have no idea what it is.
its all on right

[mys1]

Then it's electrical, the fact you butchered the wiring to the AFM would have me looking there.

I'd be checking for continuency on all connections!

[Kickit]

Then it's electrical, the fact you butchered the wiring to the AFM would have me looking there.

I'd be checking for continuency on all connections!

yeah thats what ill do tommorow. its being a pingpingpingping atm

[Kickit]

so i was just thinking. maybe it could be the battery? not giving enough charge? any ideas?

[BOUZ]

so i was just thinking. maybe it could be the battery? not giving enough charge? any ideas?

no.

[mitchy]

Do less thinking, and take it to an auto electrician.

[peaknwa]

burn it

[Kickit]

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[Turbo2.6L]

Take it to someone reputable or burn the POS. Not rocket science...

[mys1]

Just make sure its actually insured before burning.... or dont... its up to you....

[Kickit]

its not insured haha so yeah. gunna get someone around to look at it. need it running!

[Turbo2.6L]

havnt drove it yet! haha.



nah its going to doms work shop monday to be put on computer.
it runs fine on limp mode then when i plug the afm in it kills it abit.
gunna ring autoworx and see if they know what it is


its not insured haha so yeah. gunna get someone around to look at it. need it running!

Did it not already go somewhere yesterday, or was that bullshit?
Seriously, if you don't know your way around an electronic system on a car, stay away & let the professionals do their job. Will result in a much cheaper solution in most cases as you wont destroy other components in the process of guessing.

EDIT: Pm BOUZ for insurance hookup!

[DISTRBD]

Give you 3k for it ..

[Turbo2.6L]

pingpingpingping, i was about to offer $2500.

[Kickit]

pingpingpingping, i was about to offer $2500.

its got more then that worth in mods...

didnt take it to doms. dont really want them working on it.

going to get an auto electrician to look at it tommorow. hoping it should be going tommorow

[BOUZ]

EDIT: Pm BOUZ for insurance hookup!

ha, yeah...nope

[AMPERAGE]

So it sounds like you said you have removed the wires from the AFM connector to check them. If so, someone that has an R33 with the S2 R33 AFM would need to check this, but I thought the wires in the connector went

white -> orange -> black

but in the video you posted they go

orange -> white -> black

Have you put them back in the connector in the incorrect order?

I'm not 100% sure on this so like I said, get someone else with a 33 to check the order of the wires in the connector.

[mitchy]

It's black orange white.

[AMPERAGE]

It's black orange white.

I can't tell if you're serious or taking the piss... but if you are serious, then it's clear that kickit has the wires in the wrong order in the connector.

[Kickit]

I can't tell if you're serious or taking the piss... but if you are serious, then it's clear that kickit has the wires in the wrong order in the connector.

a mate fucked around with it. then i looked at one of my mates 33 wiring and done it how that was,

so its ment to be. black orange white? :S

[Kickit]

just tried it black orange white. didnt even kick over

[DISTRBD]

a mate fucked around with it. then i looked at one of my mates 33 wiring and done it how that was,


Same series 33s ?

[Kickit]

Same series 33s ?

his is s2 1996
mines s2 1998 :s any difference?

[Joe]

read online before that it a r33 has more then 238rwkts it wont run with a stock afm. dont think it has that much power yet.

This.

You have 239kw I'd say, which is why it won't run.

[mys1]

Yes but if he keeps trying different combos he may cook the AFM.

I got White Orange Back on this site http://paulr33.com/diagrams/airflow-meter-wiring.html

[mys1]

Get your Mutlimeter out

pin 1 = 12v
pin 2 = ground
pin 3 = 5v signal

Wires Should be done with according Voltages, If you get it in this order and it still wont run, then you have fucked your AFM.

Re group at Red lobster and try again

[disc0-dan]

This.

You have 239kw I'd say, which is why it won't run.


lol

[AMPERAGE]

just tried it black orange white. didnt even kick over

I wasn't suggesting that you randomly try different combinations, as mys1 said, it's not good for the AFM if you mix up the wires in the wrong order.


I got White Orange Back on this site http://paulr33.com/diagrams/airflow-meter-wiring.html

^^^Which is what I thought.

Again, get someone else with an R33 S2 to double check the order of wires for you.

[Kickit]

what a head fuck cars are! haha
its booked in to the mechanic friday! thank god haha

[mys1]

Why? What I posted should Diagnose your AFM, or at least make sure you have it wired properlly.

Need more information with this stuff! your vague examples dont help at times. BUt the AFM is the only thing you fucked around with!

[Kickit]

Why? What I posted should Diagnose your AFM, or at least make sure you have it wired properlly.

Need more information with this stuff! your vague examples dont help at times. BUt the AFM is the only thing you fucked around with!

lol the problem was here before i touched anything haha.
bloody cars!

[mys1]

lol the problem was here before i touched anything haha.
bloody cars!

No It wasn't. You drove it to Bunnings, Pulled it apart when you got home, Put it back together and now it wont run.

Something YOU did has caused the car not to run.

Hell I Cut through the loom doing my FD cooler, was wondering why only one headlight went up and the thermo fans would stay consatantly on! But I admitted it was my bad and solderd the loom back together (well a mate did) and moved on with life.

[Kickit]

No It wasn't. You drove it to Bunnings, Pulled it apart when you got home, Put it back together and now it wont run.

Something YOU did has caused the car not to run.

Hell I Cut through the loom doing my FD cooler, was wondering why only one headlight went up and the thermo fans would stay consatantly on! But I admitted it was my bad and solderd the loom back together (well a mate did) and moved on with life.

yeah my dad helped me do it. so. he could of touched somethink and not told me. so i dunno. i think its the afm wiring coz it did get thrown around the bay abit. so ill find out friday what happen.

hope they can fix it!

[VRX]

its not insured haha so yeah. gunna get someone around to look at it. need it running!

Not even third party?

[Kickit]

Not even third party?

nope. not yet.
going to get it next week when i move to perth.

lost my licence when it was due so thought there wasnt any point in paying it if i wasnt going to be driving lol

[VRX]

If it was me i'd be getting it the second you get the car running.

[Turbo2.6L]

Not driving it? Didn't you drive to Bunnings before it died in the ass, meaning you drove with no insurance?? Smart man!

[Kickit]

Not driving it? Didn't you drive to Bunnings before it died in the ass, meaning you drove with no insurance?? Smart man!

yeah its only down the road.

[mys1]

yeah its only down the road.

You see the funny thing is it doesnt matter how far it is to Bunnings, you could still run into someone/get hit by someone/drift into a lightpole like a mad dawg

and be royally fucked finacially for the next 11ty billion years!

[Kickit]

You see the funny thing is it doesnt matter how far it is to Bunnings, you could still run into someone/get hit by someone/drift into a lightpole like a mad dawg

and be royally fucked finacially for the next 11ty billion years!

simple. dont drive up peoples arses and dont drive like a dickhead? lol

[Turbo2.6L]

You're a fucking idiot.

[mitchy]

simple. dont drive up peoples arses and dont drive like a dickhead? lol

that determines how other people on the road drives, does it?

[mr_mike]

5 days to go.......... Till kickit says something else stupid and gets hit with the ban stick

[AGIT8D]

you could still drift into a lightpole like a mad dawg


Hahahahahahahaha awesome.

[Mad_Aussie]

simple. dont drive up peoples arses and dont drive like a dickhead? lol

I hear that there's a lot of lead getting around down your end of the world, have to watch out that it doesn't all seep from the soil into your right foot. I know Esperence is a bit of a trek from Albany, but you can never be too careful - you should always have insurance in case of these things.

[mys1]

Fucking Relax allright! He used to be a speed way driver

[Kickit]

I hear that there's a lot of lead getting around down your end of the world, have to watch out that it doesn't all seep from the soil into your right foot. I know Esperence is a bit of a trek from Albany, but you can never be too careful - you should always have insurance in case of these things.

ill be getting it as soon as its running.

[BOUZ]

You're a fucking idiot.

FINALLY SOMEBODY SAID IT!!

[BOUZ]

ill be getting it as soon as its running.

i wouldn't bother with insurance, it is a waste of money and insurance companies just rip you off anyway. plus the third party cover on your rego will cover you if you hit somebody..

[DISTRBD]

insurance companies just rip you off anyway.

SGIO are good

[Kickit]

SGIO are good

thats what i was with.

400 a year for fire and theft 3rd party

dont see much point paying 2k a year in insurance

plus if i got full insurance its 2 grand a year, if i crash i had to pay out 3k before it gets fixed.

i have mates that are spray painters panel beaters and mechanics.

much rather have that money in my back pocket then someone elses.

call it stupid if you like its my choise :)

[Risk10k]

You're a fucking idiot.

You guys can chat on a SAU meet...

[BOUZ]

thats what i was with.

400 a year for fire and theft 3rd party

dont see much point paying 2k a year in insurance

plus if i got full insurance its 2 grand a year, if i crash i had to pay out 3k before it gets fixed.

i have mates that are spray painters panel beaters and mechanics.

much rather have that money in my back pocket then someone elses.

call it stupid if you like its my choise :)

yeah your on the money there mate, i never bother with insurance either

[Kickit]

yeah your on the money there mate, i never bother with insurance either

glad someone agrees!

[DISTRBD]

i have mates that are spray painters panel beaters and mechanics.

Same mechanics you have had trying to get ya car running ??

[SSICK]

call it stupid ............ choise :)

yeah i'd call you stupid.

[Kickit]

Same mechanics you have had trying to get ya car running ??

nah different ones

[mr_mike]

maybe you should befriend an auto sparkie?

so many trolls in this thread...

[Kickit]

maybe you should befriend an auto sparkie?

so many trolls in this thread...

lol

[31-EVO]

Quit whilst you're behind.

[Kickit]

Quit whilst you're behind.

its in mechanics now

[Risk10k]

its in mechanics now

Highly interested in how much it costs to fix and if your issue was the 293kw...

[Kickit]

Highly interested in how much it costs to fix and if your issue was the 293kw...

you mean 238 i think it was haha, read it online somewere.

[fsbk]

Keen to hear ending to this story

[esky]

fingers crossed it ends in a tree, at high speed.

[Slip_]

CAS probably just needs a good bashing...

[Turbo2.6L]

You guys can chat on a SAU meet...

Hey, fuck you guy!



fingers crossed it ends in a tree, at high speed.

Lol. So harsh, yet so necessary!

[Marti]

CAS probably just needs a good bashing...

Should make close to 400 ay ?

[Kickit]

sa
fingers crossed it ends in a tree, at high speed.

same needs doing with your head hey?

[mys1]

For instant power move the CAS about 5mm clock wise (you should be able to loosen it and twist it) they back it off in Japan due to power and speed limits.

Hope you got the AFM sorted!

[Kickit]

For instant power move the CAS about 5mm clock wise (you should be able to loosen it and twist it) they back it off in Japan due to power and speed limits.

Hope you got the AFM sorted!

im thinking maybe the other AFM is stuffed.

ill keep you all posted!

[mys1]

If you had it wired up wrong it's probably the case. Do the trick I told you, my mates ran 12 seconds flat in stock trim when we did his!

[TJ]

Fucking idiots.

We have all been young and inexperienced.

Absolutely no need for some of these comments.

Do not wind your cas forward.

Bite your pride, get it to a electrican, get it fixed. Enjoy it in a safe environment.

[Kickit]

Fucking idiots.

We have all been young and inexperienced.

Absolutely no need for some of these comments.

Do not wind your cas forward.

Bite your pride, get it to a electrican, get it fixed. Enjoy it in a safe environment.

thanks!
its in mechanics now.

[mys1]

Fucking idiots.

We have all been young and inexperienced.

Absolutely no need for some of these comments.

Do not wind your cas forward.

Bite your pride, get it to a electrican, get it fixed. Enjoy it in a safe environment.

You've changed

[mr_mike]

Fucking idiots.

We have all been young and inexperienced.

Absolutely no need for some of these comments.

Do not wind your cas forward.

Bite your pride, get it to a electrican, get it fixed. Enjoy it in a safe environment.

Agreed, pulling the piss out of some one for being a bit naive is one thing and can be worth a few laughs, but tellin him to spin the CAS is a bit of a dog move as there is a pretty high chance it will grenade the motor.

[mys1]

But fuck it'll make some power before it goes pop!

[Kickit]

But fuck it'll make some power before it goes pop!

its got enough power as it is for now

[mr_mike]

Have you tried disconnecting the battery to reset the computer?

[Kickit]

Have you tried disconnecting the battery to reset the computer?

one of the first things i tried

[Kickit]

just went into the workshop.

skyline is now running

problem was earth wire to the computer from AFM.

there was a problem with the computer.

the AFM earth is now connected through another earth from computer.

[Fukushima]

how much did they charge you for that?

[Kickit]

how much did they charge you for that?

not sure yet.

there still putting it back together

will let you know when i go get it

[yeahlow34]

Will it walk?