What the fuck? Muslim gets off speeding fine because they couldn't prove it was her.

[SSICK]

Channel 10 just now. Muslim lady gets off speeding fine and abusing a cop because in court they could not prove it was her as she had the full fuckin Ned Kelly suit goin on. This infuriates me. I get told to take my hood off when walking into bp, motor cyclists are banned from wearing helmets in banks....and they get away with this bullshit???

[duste]

Since when does identity need to be proven in Australia...I thought fines were issued directly to the vehicle owner?

[SSICK]

You know how there is that mug shot on the right of your licence.....it's there for a reason.

[BlueSIV]

Didnt see the full story, but i believe she got off on a charge of making false claims against the officer (apparently he ripped her burka? off her to get her identity). The could not prove it was the lady that made the claim because the person making the report had a burka on!!

But either way, its a load of bullshit. Whether or not you have to show your face to every joe blow on the street, you should have to show to police etc. What would happen if she just ran some kid over down the street, does she still hide behind the veil and then say it was someone else when they take her to court?

Will hopefully wake up the system and get the laws changed very quickly, if not i might carry a burka wherever i go, get out of anything clause!

[Macca]

Didnt see the full story, but i believe she got off on a charge of making false claims against the officer (apparently he ripped her burka? off her to get her identity). The could not prove it was the lady that made the claim because the person making the report had a burka on!!

But either way, its a load of bullshit. Whether or not you have to show your face to every joe blow on the street, you should have to show to police etc. What would happen if she just ran some kid over down the street, does she still hide behind the veil and then say it was someone else when they take her to court?

Will hopefully wake up the system and get the laws changed very quickly, if not i might carry a burka wherever i go, get out of anything clause!


Yes, didnt get off speeding fine, got off false claims as they couldn't prove who made the claim in regards to police in 1st place

[mr_mike]

yeh she didnt get off the speeding fine, the charge was making a false claim against the copper. But because they couldnt prove it was her that actually went into the cop shop and filled out the paper work the charge was dropped.

[pgc]

You can't see a face in backwards facing pics either.

Don't think you'll get out of that.

[e4666wa]

They can have 5 wives and now this?!

[SSICK]

They can have 5 wives and now this?!

They can't yet. But that clown that was on the news wants to bring in their laws that allows them to. Bullshit!

[n1ghth4wk]

Fucks sake. This is Australia, not the middle east. If they come here they should have to abide by AUSTRALIAN law. We don't walk into Bali or somewhere with drugs or something and tell the courts 'No, in my religion (or whatever) the penalty is only 1yr imprisonment, you're a racist for giving me the death penalty'.

[Niva]

National rip off a burka day 1st off july

[Ryan1080]

Fucking pingpingpingpings. Fit in or fuck off!We don't want double laws here, get your Sharia law, jump back on the plane or the boat, and practice it where you came from!

Although one aspect of the Sharia law I do like is that under their laws banks cannot charge interest. If anyone can point me to a muslim bank where I can refinance my mortgage at, I'd greatly appreciate it!

[TJ]

Take away the racist bullshit we so often churn out -

Good on her for using the law to her advantage - just like we do then when we claim we dont know who was driving when we got flashed 120 ove.r

[fourseven]

It's incidents like this that breeds racism though. Stop this bullshit and you are well on your way to stopping racism.

[pgc]

It's incidents like this that breeds racism though. Stop this bullshit and you are well on your way to stopping racism.

No you're not.

Racism and prejudice against religion are two entirely different matters.

[TJ]

Her defence was "you couldnt identify the person who made the complaint"

not

"im muslim so let me off"

I dont agree with it, but its very well played.

Same as someone having a hat or helmet on.

[fourseven]

No you're not.

Racism and prejudice against religion are two entirely different matters.

Same shit, different stink. I'd be surprised if most people here knew the difference.

[Kaido]

Her defence was "you couldnt identify the person who made the complaint"

not

"im muslim so let me off"

I dont agree with it, but its very well played.

Same as someone having a hat or helmet on.

difference is if you walk into a police station with a helmet on to make a report, they would ask you to take it off before you contiune

[SSICK]

And her screaming at the cop " you are racist you are racist". Fuck off

[DanWA]

fucking muslims.

[Huy]

Hallelujah. I can now fulfill my dream of wearing my ninja suit whilst driving.

[fourseven]

How was the group of Muslim men protesting, pushing the camera men and others over. Quick way to get your ass beat!

Cronulla v2 coming right up.

[DanWA]

yep hopefully sooner rather then later to fourseven

[Ryan1080]

Muslim isn't a race. It's a religion. You're not racist if you call a Muslim a pingpingpingping.

Hell, in fact there are lots of Muslims that are white, Yugoslavia or whatever it's called now, most people there are Muslim. If I call one a pingpingpingping, that's coz he is one, we look alike so I can't be racist. There's too much political correctness it seems...

[TJ]

Yugoslavia is muslim?

Not sure how you could be further off the mark, well done

[Slip_]

aahahaha

Jihad

[Ryan1080]

Wasn't the whole war there over Serbian and Albanians? One of them was Muslim or something. I know a few people from there (can't remember what side they're on) they happen to be Muslim.

[BlueSIV]

If you are a jedi, which i believe is a recognized religion now. Can you get round in darth vadar/storm trooper getup and tell the police that if you take of the mask you will die because it is your breathing apparatus,... and the force wants you to wear it?

Sound same same to me.

[JBAE]

You can't see a face in backwards facing pics either.

Don't think you'll get out of that.

Wanna bet? :)

[TJ]

Wasn't the whole war there over Serbian and Albanians? One of them was Muslim or something. I know a few people from there (can't remember what side they're on) they happen to be Muslim.

In other words you have no idea.

Probably better you either research it or use a known example lest you look like a fool.

[Drift_R32]

Why is it that we have to accept their religion but if we go to the middle east with anything but whAt they believe in you end up in jail or shot. Fuk that over this multicutral bullshit. My folks migrated here and worked fuken hard for the last 50+ years never forcing anything on anyone. These fukwits come here from thief Fukn shitty war torn country abd then start complaining about our laws been racist etc. Not to mention not contributing Anything to society or the community cept claiming every fucken government payment under the sun which I pay for..

[DanWA]

Yeah TJ is right Ryan1080

Sadly you are mistaken with the Muslim nationality term used there

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslims_by_nationality_(term)

Drift_R32: Definately mate, look at all the other religions/races that have came here and fitted in nicely... serbs, italians, asians, hindus& buddists etc

[shifted]

@Ryan, Yugoslavia doesn't exist anymore.

There are a lot of Muslims from the states created from what used to be Yugoslavia. Australia has a lot of Bosnian Muslims for instance.

The point is, everyone should be treated the same. Not being able to identify the driver because of the Burqa is a load of shit, and should not be allowed. It should be fair.

Australia is not the middle east. If you don't like the rules and regs here, go back to your own country. Don't need crap brought here that doesn't need to be.

Like mentioned before, you walk into a Petrol Station, you have to take your helmet and hoody off. Being treated different because of your religious beliefs seems a bit unfair to the rest of the population who has their own religious beliefs and the like, set precedent - watch the shit storm that erupts - cos this will go a lot further before anything, if anything is done about it. I think it can lead to a lot of issues out there in the streets personally the way this is heading.

That is my uneducated opinion though. I have friends who are muslim and I have no issues with their beliefs (they reject extremists themselves) but this seems unfair...

[Ryan1080]

In other words you have no idea.

Probably better you either research it or use a known example lest you look like a fool.

Whatever that fuck happened there I honestly don't give a shit. So I don't care if I look like a 'fool' about the topic of kosovo war (although having a quick look on wikipedia it shows that serbia has a minority muslim population, and the kosovo war did involve albanians). Who cares? Not me.

What I'm saying is, I know of quite a few people from that region, who came here escaping the war, who are muslim. They are white, european, not the dark skinned types that we usually associate muslims with.

Which brings me to my original point. Bad mouthing a muslim is not racist. If I'm bad mouthing them as dark skinned pingpingpingpings, then yes, I am racist. Muslims, not racist. Happy?

Otherwise negative comments about jews, christians and scientologists should also be racist.

[TJ]

You are totally correct.

I believe the term is bigot ?

[Drift_R32]

Lol I couldn't give a fuck if I'm labeled a racist.. Don't be fucken scum and give me reason to be a racist.

[Niva]

Serbs on the other hand, something like 80% ?

[Ryan1080]

I know it doesn't exist anymore! I should have put down OLD Yugoslavia, before the war. I can't remember what thery are all called now, and I do not know which one is the muslim one. So I said Yugoslavia to give you the general idea. Main point was about muslims not being a race as such. Geez, pingpingpingpings pick on semantics...

[Ryan1080]

You are totally correct.

I believe the term is bigot ?

Indeed it is, you're verty correct there. That would probably label solid 80% of people on here, at least the ones who give Jews and Christians shit haha

[TJ]

Serbians are Orthodox

Croatians are Catholic

Bosnians are Muslims

Albanians were never part of Yugoslavia, and are also muslim.

[1JZVL]

If you are a jedi, which i believe is a recognized religion now. Can you get round in darth vadar/storm trooper getup and tell the police that if you take of the mask you will die because it is your breathing apparatus,... and the force wants you to wear it?

Sound same same to me.

Darth Vader didn't use that suit because he was a "Jedi" (actually..."Sith Lord"); no particular outfit has to be worn, so not exactly the same.

Jedi etc can wear whatever the fuck they want.



:p

[Ryan1080]

Yeah TJ is right Ryan1080

Sadly you are mistaken with the Muslim nationality term used there

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslims_by_nationality_(term))


This link says otherwsie mate :)

[Ryan1080]

Serbians are Orthodox

Croatians are Catholic

Bosnians are Muslims

Albanians were never part of Yugoslavia, and are also muslim.

Cool, sorted, cheers!

So those pople I know are Bosnians then. White. And muslim. Not the typical stereotype :)

[DanWA]

and TJ himself to is a bigot

i fucking hate that term, they thrash the fuck out of it on overclockers.com.au

anyway instead of "banning the burqa" which is just going to anger all the terrorist muslims among us

i think they should just introduce law that states they have to remove it when asked or be charged the same as you would for failing to provide your etails

where that becomes crap is, they can just walk into a bank etc

good to see the old one nation bloke (oldfield) on the news again haha

[R3N]

Ok, so she has to at least have an aussie driving license right, they allow the burka to be worn for ID photos?

[Madhav]

If a lady with a burka comes into BP we ask them to take it off. It's private property, so they have to abide by the rules. It's not a religious thing, it's just that we need to be able to ID people.

[DanWA]

Have you ever had them cry racist etc Madhav?

[lambchops]

do they actually take it off?


back school we got $150 together so one kid would take his hair out of the little knob thing ontop of his head. he didn't do it.

[Torquen]

Turban...

[JME]

Don't hate the player hate the game.

[Madhav]

I've never been in the situation where I've personally had to ask, but our boss has, and of course they retaliate and say it's disrespect to their religion to ask to remove it.... that may be but a law is a law, step onto BP's property and you have to play by their rules, otherwise what do you expect? Anyone could wear a burka and just rob the place. Our boss says we have to explain that it's not discrimination, it's just for security purposes.

[R3N]

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h194/GOODSTUFF1852/burka_id_group.jpg

[RELEASE]

Serbians are Orthodox

Croatians are Catholic

Bosnians are Muslims

Albanians were never part of Yugoslavia, and are also muslim.OI pingpingpingping, you missed us out :p
Macedonians are orthodox and ex yugoslavia

[dstyle]

bunch of racist pingpingpingpings, were not talking about boongs here, they are ugly bitches from the middle east doing us a favour by covering there aids infested ugly mugs

[DRIFT13]

If i walk down the street screaming "white pride" i'm called a Nazi, and thrown in jail for racisim. If i walk down the street screaming "Black Power" im standing up for my rights?

Seriously WTF has this country come to? If you want to be a nice person and all, and do good to your fellow man, then own the fuck up to your wrong doings! If your a burkah wearing chick thats speeding, no worries, own up to your faults and be done with it. But if you hide behind any form of race of religion then expect to be called a fucking PIECE OF SHIT !

I have no tolerence for people who hide behind anything but there own self worth! And anyone who sticks up for them is in the same boat!

[MrMayhem]

Thats because only Caucasians can be racist

[Lonewolf]

should just stamp them like the nazi's and shit?

[fsbk]

I'm not racist but I hate everyone who isn't white

[Joe]

Fuckin Serbs..

[Madhav]

Jeez this thread reminds me of that movie Mississippi Burning

http://www.old-picture.com/united-states-history-1900s---1930s/pictures/Ku-Klux-Klan.jpg

[mc68]

bet she was wearing fishnets an a g banger underneath, muslim bitches love wearing that shit

[baz]

I'm not racist but I hate everyone who isn't white

Hahaha! Love this!

Plus ....the only good thing that ever came out of anything black is tyre smoke.....notice how that is white too!!!

[coFF33]

Whats wack tho...
is that im a lot more racist towards our native people more than i am to Arab folk.

At least Arab people have a brain and work for money in this country.

[Skitzo]

bunch of racist pingpingpingpings, were not talking about boongs here, they are ugly bitches from the middle east doing us a favour by covering there aids infested ugly mugs

Not al woman behind a burkar are unattractive. You seen some of the arab news programs on the sbs? Some of them bitches are very good looking.

[Mad_Aussie]

Not al woman behind a burkar are unattractive. You seen some of the arab news programs on the sbs? Some of them bitches are very good looking.

Persian blood = some of the most attractive people on the planet. Really good genes.

[j3rk]

^^ +1. Met a few awesome blokes from oman who showed me their wives, wow.
Apparently Engineer(aka good job) + good family(money) = Wife is a model. Sorted.

[wormbo2]

Almost as OT as Muslim wives comparison:

Could I claim to be a Jedi padawan and enter every building wearing a hooded cape, and claim that my religion/ beliefs prohibit me from removing my hood until I am a full fledged Jedi warrior?

If so, I'm gettin me a mufuckin lightsaber!!

[duste]

Persian blood = some of the most attractive people on the planet. Really good genes.

x2!

Good friend of mine is pretty bombed, her sister is even more bombed, and her mum is the biggest MILF ever.

Persians ftw.

[TJ]

Fuckin Serbs..

Fucking Calabrese cake makers!

[R3N]

Apparently Engineer(aka good job) + good family(money) = Wife is a model. Sorted.

You just figured that out now? And I'm pretty sure that's not just exclusive to Muslims

[MISS 13B]

Not al woman behind a burkar are unattractive. You seen some of the arab news programs on the sbs? Some of them bitches are very good looking.
Agreed, some of the most exotic looking women in the world!

[shifted]

Apparently Engineer(aka good job) + good family(money) = Wife is a model. Sorted.

Where is the queue forming?

[Torquen]

At the uni applications line...

[Brockas]

You can't see a face in backwards facing pics either.

Don't think you'll get out of that.
You can, if it wasn't you driving your car you have to nominate a driver. If you can't it's a $1,200 fine. No loss of licence.


Muslim isn't a race. It's a religion. You're not racist if you call a Muslim a pingpingpingping.
Correct. To quote Jim Jefferies - "I'm not paying out on Arabs, I like food late a night. I'm paying out on Muslims, there's a difference.
I'm a bigot, not a racist."


Hell, in fact there are lots of Muslims that are white, Yugoslavia or whatever it's called now, most people there are Muslim.
You mean places like Serbia and Croatia?

Never heard of Serbian Orthodox then I gather?

Almost that entire region is Orthodox Christian.

[Ryan1080]

You mean places like Serbia and Croatia?

Never heard of Serbian Orthodox then I gather?

Almost that entire region is Orthodox Christian.

I take back 'most'... in fact I mentioned in my later post that they were a minority. Never mind. :) My main point was that there certainly is a number of caucasian muslims, so calling islam a race is wrong. It's just a religion.

Anyway, beating a dead horse here lol

[Jumanji]

Shoot them all, simple.

[lambchops]

Turban...

nah he would wrap his hair up and put it into a cloth knob on the top of his head. so its like a ball of hair, not a turban

[Torquen]

Ahh I'd say he's a Sikh then. The head wear is still called a turban though it's just done in a different style.

[TJ]

Shoot them all, simple.

Truly wise words spoken by the thong slapper 5l owner with China tempe wheels.

How long is your rats tail ?

[DanWA]

Shoot them all, simple.

I remember your mum saying the exact same thing at work haha


Truly wise words spoken by the thong slapper 5l owner with China tempe wheels.

How long is your rats tail ?

Can we stereotype you to TJ? Could have a field day.

[INSINR8R]

More fighting!

[TJ]

Sure you can, because end of the day I love stirring shit.

What you like to start with ?

All Aussies are racist hicks?
All Aussies are beer swigging idiots?
We have kangaroos in our back yards?
All Aussies are interbred poms and coons?

Oh, thats right, I am Australian.

Stereotype away!

[kirbo]

You're all pingpingpingpings with opinions. Good to see.

/end.

[DanWA]

its ok tj

my family doesnt drain centrelink like yours

we pay our own way

[TJ]

Yup, us Aussies love getting knocked up at 16 and getting centrelink !

Baby bonus will pay for a vn ss!

[Slip_]

Its a well established fact that those who prejudice towards another race are 10 times more likely to be homosexual or house homosexual tendencies. We've all seen the "fuck off we're full" type getting a little faggy once they've had a couple. Commonly observed phenomena.

[TJ]

http://media.moddb.com/cache/images/members/1/431/430462/thumb_620x2000/TrollFaceDancing.gif

[Torquen]

Lol @ troll :p

[TJ]

His grin is about as big as mine - hook line mother fucking sinker!

[Drift_R32]

As I said before.. Couldn't give a fuck if people call me a racist,don't be a fucken cancer piece of shit and I Wont have to be. I'm wog btw.. And I look it... People shouldn't be let in without a decent skill, we aren't a fucking charity.

[Torquen]

As I said before.. Couldn't give a fuck if people call me a racist,don't be a fucken cancer piece of shit and I Wont have to be. I'm wog btw.. And I look it... People shouldn't be let in without a decent skill, we aren't a fucking charity.

Aboriginals were here first though...

[TJ]

As I said before.. Couldn't give a fuck if people call me a racist,don't be a fucken cancer piece of shit and I Wont have to be. I'm wog btw.. And I look it... People shouldn't be let in without a decent skill, we aren't a fucking charity.

And yet we let white trash breed here with no dramas?

Heres the other flip side - who here is going to

-drive a taxi
-serve you hjs
-give you fuel at 3am
-clean your shit

for 6 bucks an hour?

We have become a mini America - we now rely on immigration to provide the low base workforce that sustains our now now now lifestyle.

Disclaimer - I have my opinions, more than happy to have them challenged or ignored, more than happy for others to have theirs, simply enjoy stirring the narrowed minded views.

[Slip_]

Not to mention we were originally predominately a colony of fucking white trash convicts.

Some things change, some don't.

[Ryan1080]

And yet we let white trash breed here with no dramas?

Heres the other flip side - who here is going to

-drive a taxi
-serve you hjs
-give you fuel at 3am
-clean your shit

for 6 bucks an hour?

We have become a mini America - we now rely on immigration to provide the low base workforce that sustains our now now now lifestyle.

Disclaimer - I have my opinions, more than happy to have them challenged or ignored, more than happy for others to have theirs, simply enjoy stirring the narrowed minded views.

Make the dole limited to three months only and you'll have plenty of Bazzas and Shazzas stepping up to the task I reckon! The thought of losing their precious VN, winnie blues and vb will be enough of a motivation.

[Ryan1080]

Aboriginals were here first though...

Yeah, but we pay them billions in welfare, native title, and other shit. We bought our way in lol.

[TJ]

Make the dole limited to three months only and you'll have plenty of Bazzas and Shazzas stepping up to the task I reckon! The thought of losing their precious VN, winnie blues and vb will be enough of a motivation.

But if he has to work when will he get time to watch Judge Judy and repeats of neighbours. Fucking hell man!


Yeah, but we pay them billions in welfare, native title, and other shit. We bought our way in lol.

I think shooting most of them, and getting the rest hooked on goon doesnt count as buying in :)

[Ryan1080]

Well, we're in, so it somehow worked!! :P

[Drift_R32]

Aboriginals were here first though...

And? They have been given every opportunity to make sonething out of thier race yet they still act like fucking apes.

And TJ sorry I forgot to add we have enough oxygen thieves here, I'd rather not keep letting them in but try do something about the ones we already have. as I do agree with you which isn't often cause I personally find u annoying, the downside is that once these certain races buy these franchises they only hire their own kind and the service often turns to fucking shit. In saying that the next generation is one of Fuking lazy kids who are useless as a kangaroo with a shot gun. Believe me, ballajura is full of dead shit 16 to 21 year olds.

[DanWA]

And yet we let white trash breed here with no dramas?

Heres the other flip side - who here is going to

-drive a taxi
-serve you hjs
-give you fuel at 3am
-clean your shit

for 6 bucks an hour?

We have become a mini America - we now rely on immigration to provide the low base workforce that sustains our now now now lifestyle.

Disclaimer - I have my opinions, more than happy to have them challenged or ignored, more than happy for others to have theirs, simply enjoy stirring the narrowed minded views.

No one does any of those jobs for 6 bucks an hour so blatant troll.

You werent born here, no centrelink... simple... old or young.

Read somewhere that a massive portion of our disabled/elderly pensioners are from the migration boom from the 80's and earlier. Thats pathetic.

I'm all for all the wogs and shit i grew up with getting it, they were born here.

[Drift_R32]

Not to mention every wog that came here like 40 years ago is a hard working pingpingpingping. Not to mention prob 100% of every other migrant of that time since u got nothing if u didn't work. Unlike now.. Fucking charity.

[Ryan1080]

Not to worry, the way it's going, once all the baby boomers retire, there will not be enough cash for pensions anyway, so unless you have a decent super balance, good luck is all I say. When baby boomers were all working fully, there were about 7 tax payers for every pensioner. Once baby boomers retire, there will be something like 2.5 taxpayers for every pensioner. Most don't have enough in their super to support themselves, so they will need govt assistance. Good luck to them, coz I doubt the 2.5 people will be happy to pay a lot more in taxes to support that one guy...

So for that reason we need to increase immigration (legal, with desireables who fit in of course) with mostly young people, so that they can work, and pay taxes so the old farts have money to live off during their twilight years...

[DanWA]

Not to mention every wog that came here like 40 years ago is a hard working pingpingpingping. Not to mention prob 100% of every other migrant of that time since u got nothing if u didn't work. Unlike now.. Fucking charity.

exactly right

all those wogs from the early days worked their fucking asses off

yugo war, they all come here and claim benefits

[Torquen]

And? They have been given every opportunity to make sonething

LOL! Very ignorant view. While I do agree that we give out WAY too many free handouts their way now-a-days, the whole situation is due to the hardship we put them under over the past 150 years. They had fuck all importunity until recently, hell they couldn't even vote until the 50's-60's...couldn't vote in their own country.

I'll be the first to agree that people shouldn't be given anything for free, but to say they've had equal opportunity is down right incorrect.

[Drift_R32]

LOL! Very ignorant view. While I do agree that we give out WAY too many free handouts their way now-a-days, the whole situation is due to the hardship we put them under over the past 150 years. They had fuck all importunity until recently, hell they couldn't even vote until the 50's-60's...couldn't vote in their own country.

I'll be the first to agree that people shouldn't be given anything for free, but to say they've had equal opportunity is down right incorrect.


I agree that they had it hard.. Been hunted, not given the choice to vote...but seriously they have been given more then enough chances now days, it's 2011 not fucking 1783. Fucking get over it.. My grand dad was hunted and put in a concentration camp where he witnessed terrible things. He wasn't given shit by the government when he came here cept made to learn English and work hrs fucking arse off till he was 75.

[Torquen]

I agree that they had it hard.. Been hunted, not given the choice to vote...but seriously they have been given more then enough chances now days, it's 2011 not fucking 1783. Fucking get over it.. My grand dad was hunted and put in a concentration camp where he witnessed terrible things. He wasn't given shit by the government when he came here cept made to learn English and work hrs fucking arse off till he was 75.

This I agree with. We should help them get on their feet (not with free $$$), but they need to help themselves too.

[Drift_R32]

This I agree with. We should help them get on their feet (not with free $$$), but they need to help themselves too.

They don't want too help themselves. We have fukt it for ourselves. What easier doing fuck all and getting paid, working hard and getting paid?

[Ryan1080]

LOL! Very ignorant view. While I do agree that we give out WAY too many free handouts their way now-a-days, the whole situation is due to the hardship we put them under over the past 150 years. They had fuck all importunity until recently, hell they couldn't even vote until the 50's-60's...couldn't vote in their own country.

I'll be the first to agree that people shouldn't be given anything for free, but to say they've had equal opportunity is down right incorrect.

Ignorance is bliss. Not that I am defending coons, but judging from most comments on here, people are not really well educated about the history and this topic it seems.

Who here has heard of The Aborigines Act 1905?

I've done two whole days of 'Cross Cultural Awareness' (mining co requirement for native title requires all employees to undertake it). I gotta say, I learnt a lot, and got a very decent understanding of why things are the way they are. And as much as I hate coons who commit the crimes and are generally useless to society these days, we are in part resposnible for this I'm sorry.

Prior to the 1905 act aborigines actually owned their own buisnesses believe it or not. They were actually well on the way to integrating with the western man. They may not have been able to vote etc (and neither have women at the time), but they had total freedom for the most part. That has all been taken away from them with that act. Yadda yadda yadda, combined with the stolen generation and other crap, it is obvious a lot of these people have been totally messed up by this. I had the opportunity to speak first hand with some of these people. All of them throughout most of their lives have been to jail, acted like your average coon basically. They have now reformed and try to educate their young, but they find it hard.

One thing that it made me think about is this, if you are born, and live with your family most of your life, you are brought up with your family values. You learn respect, and all the other good citizen shit. All is passed on from your parent's experience really. The way they experienced family life, is the way they will make their children experience family life.

Take out a generation of kids out of their families. Put them in foster homes, orphanages, whatever. Lack of discipline and respect makes you go off the rails. You grow up. Have your own kids. Have not expereinced family life yourself, so what experience can you draw off other than strangers acting like a pingpingpingping to you. Your messed up state gets passed onto your kids. And the cycle continues on.

And for any kids that were not stolen, imagine govt came into your own home, and without explanation took one of your siblings. Your father and mother try everything they can to get them back to no avail. Constant stress and worry about your missing kid takes its toll, father and mother start arguing. Family life gets worse and worse. The remaining kids get affected and messed up. And again cycle continues on.

I can't think of an easy fix for this hey. They do not have enough role models unfortunately, and will take generations to fix this problem.

[JBAE]

Fucking bleeding hearts! FFS the majority of boongs are fucking USELESS! the benefits they get is stupid!

[INSINR8R]

Fucking bleeding hearts! FFS the majority of boongs are fucking USELESS! the benefits they get is stupid!

This. They choose to sink piss and sniff petrol.

Why not get a job? Get an education? They aren't incapable of it. Instead they're happy living with their hand-outs and then robbing us. Then claiming it's "their" land and we're racist. Hanging on to the fact they can blame "The Stolen Generation" for their bad habits.

Today's Aboriginals are a far cry from what they should be. Only the ones that are trying to work and make a life for themselves deserve any respect. But it's these bludgers that give the few good ones a bad name.

[1JZVL]

More Asians I say!


:D

[JME]

Ignorance is bliss. Not that I am defending coons, but judging from most comments on here, people are not really well educated about the history and this topic it seems.

Who here has heard of The Aborigines Act 1905?

I've done two whole days of 'Cross Cultural Awareness' (mining co requirement for native title requires all employees to undertake it). I gotta say, I learnt a lot, and got a very decent understanding of why things are the way they are. And as much as I hate coons who commit the crimes and are generally useless to society these days, we are in part resposnible for this I'm sorry.

Prior to the 1905 act aborigines actually owned their own buisnesses believe it or not. They were actually well on the way to integrating with the western man. They may not have been able to vote etc (and neither have women at the time), but they had total freedom for the most part. That has all been taken away from them with that act. Yadda yadda yadda, combined with the stolen generation and other crap, it is obvious a lot of these people have been totally messed up by this. I had the opportunity to speak first hand with some of these people. All of them throughout most of their lives have been to jail, acted like your average coon basically. They have now reformed and try to educate their young, but they find it hard.

One thing that it made me think about is this, if you are born, and live with your family most of your life, you are brought up with your family values. You learn respect, and all the other good citizen shit. All is passed on from your parent's experience really. The way they experienced family life, is the way they will make their children experience family life.

Take out a generation of kids out of their families. Put them in foster homes, orphanages, whatever. Lack of discipline and respect makes you go off the rails. You grow up. Have your own kids. Have not expereinced family life yourself, so what experience can you draw off other than strangers acting like a pingpingpingping to you. Your messed up state gets passed onto your kids. And the cycle continues on.

And for any kids that were not stolen, imagine govt came into your own home, and without explanation took one of your siblings. Your father and mother try everything they can to get them back to no avail. Constant stress and worry about your missing kid takes its toll, father and mother start arguing. Family life gets worse and worse. The remaining kids get affected and messed up. And again cycle continues on.

I can't think of an easy fix for this hey. They do not have enough role models unfortunately, and will take generations to fix this problem.


Wow! A well executed post that has depth and merit. Who would've thought.

[Ryan1080]

This. They choose to sink piss and sniff petrol.

Why not get a job? Get an education? They aren't incapable of it. Instead they're happy living with their hand-outs and then robbing us. Then claiming it's "their" land and we're racist. Hanging on to the fact they can blame "The Stolen Generation" for their bad habits.

Today's Aboriginals are a far cry from what they should be. Only the ones that are trying to work and make a life for themselves deserve any respect. But it's these bludgers that give the few good ones a bad name.

One other thing I have learnt from that course is that their culture is substantially different to ours (I know, captain obvious lol). But what's worth noting is that culturally they have never had any sense of ownership. Even back when hundreds or thousands of years ago, they have always been a nomadic race. They have never claimed anything as theirs, rather they moved on from place to place. Used what was there. Moved on. For generations. What is yours is theirs, and vice versa. Western culture is the opposite of course.

One of them told me an interesting fact... in their culture certain family members can demand something from you, and you cannot refuse. You go to work and earns some cash. Buy something. Your relative comes over, he likes it, if he asks you for it, you are obliged to give it to him. It's fucked I know, but in a way that woudl discourage me from working towards something, if any pingpingpingping can come and take it. Not to mention that I have no need to work, coz ther govt is paying me cash. We have a couple of aboriginals on our mine site with that exact problem. Part of their salary goes stragiht towards their rent or whatever, so at least their rellies can;t take all cash from them.

Another big difference are the Avoidance, Obligatory and Reciprocal relationships.

Can't remember what reciprocal one is anymore. Avoidance basically means that your wife cannot associate with yoru mum. In fact, if your wife is in the room, and your mum walks in, the wife has to walk out straight away. And vice versa. I think that is a good thing actually haha, they were defiantely onto something, avoids the mother in law problems.

The one that in my opinion makes them and us incompatible is the Obligatory relationship. Like i mentioned above, if a family member comes to you and asks for something, you have to give it to them. Similarly, if they ask you to do something, you have to do it for them. Whether it is right or wrong. Hence the reason why there aren't many aboriginal prison officers. In that situation if a rellie asks you to release you from the prison, you have to do it. ANd here lies the conflict of cultures.

One side obviously needs to let go, coz even without the stolen generation problem factored into the equation, we'd still have cultural clashes, although not as bad as they are now...

[Ryan1080]

Wow! A well executed post that has depth and merit. Who would've thought.

Haha, cheers! I'm in an essay writing mode!

[Kaido]

exactly right

all those wogs from the early days worked their fucking asses off

yugo war, they all come here and claim benefits

there is also alot of italian that came to australia, did the dogdy saying they were working for a set amount of time then return back to italy so they could get a pensione from australia.

every culture/race has its bad apples some more than others

[Gladio]

Antilag - Where religion, race and culture topic's come first...

[Torquen]

Antilag - Where being white and liberal matters.

[TJ]

No one does any of those jobs for 6 bucks an hour so blatant troll.

You werent born here, no centrelink... simple... old or young.

.

No you are right - in 2011, the minimum wage is 13 dollars an hour.... IF you are covered on an award.

There are many documented cases of people earn a ton less than that.


Read somewhere that a massive portion of our disabled/elderly pensioners are from the migration boom from the 80's and earlier. Thats pathetic.

I'm all for all the wogs and shit i grew up with getting it, they were born here

How incredibly ignorant.

Those pensioners - do you know who they are?

They are the ones who left everything they had - everything! And came to this country and contributed.

No myspace, facebook, mobile to call, email, a letter probably took 3 months to arrive. Couldnt whack a 20 hour plane ride on a credit card to go catch up for a week.

They came here with nothing, and helped build this country. Didnt know the language, the culture, what the fuck a koala bear was, not a thing. But they came because they wanted a better life.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowy_Mountains_Scheme - the most monumental construction event in this nations history - with the majority of the workers made up from those people.

They built your sewerage systems, a good deal of your water systems, built your roads, constructed your cities and homes, helped build this nation into the incredible place it is.

When Lang Hancock and his mates first found iron ore up north in the 70's - guess who the majority of the people up there were getting it out of the ground? Immigrants. And there was no 12 hour shifts, back to your air conned donga for a meal and tv, fly home once every 2 or 3 weeks to see the family and jump in the ss ute for spin for 150k a year thats for sure.

And these people now, after tearing their bodies apart, and killing themselves in asbestos mines and the like to give their families and this country whatever they could, go and dare ask for a pension, or some health care?

how dare they I guess.

And yes, of course there was Aussies who did the same. But how are they any more deserving of assistance after contributing to society?

[TJ]

As for the last 20 years kettle of immigrant fish - that is an entirely different story.

I wouldnt even know how to approach it - and truthfully, I do believe our current laws are a failure.

All I say is a great deal of us will never live through what some of those genuine refugee people have lived through. We cannot and hopefully will never have to understand what they have seen and experienced.

The flip side is we get fucked by those who know we will provide easy street ands thus pray on people and this nation.

[DanWA]

you're still speaking of the minority rather then the majority, i cant prove any of that wrong though as its all true

of course there was hard workers, but heavily outnumbered by non workers who have sucked a pension etc ever since

and as for the AL quotes it should be more like

Antilag - If you're an aussie, you're not welcome

Cause you see much more aussie bashing on here then anything else

[Torquen]

Not Aussie bashing - bogan, degenerate, one-minded, ignorant, racist bashing... If people also happen to be Aussie that's just a coincidence.

[TJ]

To which part am I wrong - my first or second reply?

Because no way in the world am I wrong about the first part. No one landed here and got a house, money, anything - they went and worked for it.

Also applied to Brits - hence the term ten pound pom

Dont think centrelink/social security existed till much further along the timeline.

LOL @ Aussie bashing - if you dont like it, go back to where you came from ?

Oh wait, Britian has immigration problems that make Australia look like lollipop lane :)

[DanWA]

torquen nothing you say carries any weight cause you're a fucking ginger

2nd part TJ, the earlier "working" generation have mostly passed on by now though

[Ryan1080]

No one landed here and got a house, money, anything - they went and worked for it.

Also applied to Brits - hence the term ten pound pom

Dont think centrelink/social security existed till much further along the timeline.


+1

Baby boomer migrants after WW2 have contributed a fuckload to this country. There was no handouts. Aus would not be what it is today (the good bits) without them.

Immigrant quality has all gone down the shitter in the last decade and a half or so though... too many politically correct bleeding heart oxygen wasters out there.

[TJ]

You did read my reply yeah?

You did notice that I seperated the older immigrants from the current crop totally?

You do realise your reply thus makes no sense?

[DanWA]

thats a big fucking joe essay, sorry for not quoting the correct paragraph

[Torquen]

torquen nothing you say carries any weight cause you're a fucking ginger

Lol. Is it just me or do you view immigrants and aboriginals like the Fremantle Dockers... You like to tell people that you support them, but deep down you mad, you real MAD at them.

[nicecar]

Muslim isn't a race. It's a religion. You're not racist if you call a Muslim a pingpingpingping.

Hell, in fact there are lots of Muslims that are white, Yugoslavia or whatever it's called now, most people there are Muslim. If I call one a pingpingpingping, that's coz he is one, we look alike so I can't be racist. There's too much political correctness it seems...

hahahahahahahahahahahaha dumbest post I've read this year. Congrats

[DanWA]

Lol. Is it just me or do you view immigrants and aboriginals like the Fremantle Dockers... You like to tell people that you support them, but deep down you mad, you real MAD at them.

this is for you torquen :) (http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Breaking-down-in-tears-because-you-cant-take-being-ginger-anymore/131997766881199)

[Torquen]

I don't get it. I though I was winning something... you just posted another retarded response. That's not for me, I feel cheated.

[fourseven]

You werent born here, no centrelink... simple... old or young.


Wow, I'm glad you're not running this country. Despite my criticisms of the government's policy on immigration and welfare handouts and some foreign communities that have taken up residence here, that's just a retarded statement to make.

My best mate is Persian, and hasn't been unemployed since his early teens. His mother is a nurse, works her ass off in the public health system. His father a taxi driver, and has been for 20 years, usually working the shifts that no one else wants to work for fear of being bashed by some drunken, white, meth addict Australian.

Do they not deserve any Centrelink payments if they suddenly become unemployed or have some sort of disability after contributing to Australia, and our society for such a long period of time? Get fucked.

TJ is destroying you with his posts. You should quit now and save filling this thread with more rubbish.

[DanWA]

like i said earlier

Antilag - If you're an aussie, you're not welcome

of course tj can destroy me with his interweb posts, what else do you do as a virgin but study post warfare

clearly it doesnt matter what anyone says about immigration because you're instantly labelled racist or a bigot or dunno wtf your on about. theres no win, thats why my posts started to dumb down to tj spec levels

[Traitor]

+1 on above..

My folks both migrated here when they were teens and have assimilated into the Australian way of life.. Both worked hard all their life, struggled to get where they are today. I'm guessing this is the case for quite a few others on here..

Going on Xibit0rs logic, just because they weren't born here they are not entitled to pension etc??

[fourseven]

like i said earlier

Antilag - If you're an aussie, you're not welcome

of course tj can destroy me with his interweb posts, what else do you do as a virgin but study post warfare

TJ is destroying your posts because he assimilates with other Australians and other "imports" and embraces other cultures. You should remove your flanno and try it.

I'm an Aussie, the boys have always made me feel welcome.

Don't mistake the feeling of being unwelcome because you're Australian with being unwelcome because you're just a redneck idiot.

[DanWA]

you do realise you ignored the part where i just explained that shit was a purposeful comment to dumb down to the level TJ took the thread, re-read it all and you will see, was just feeding the troll

because all anyone wants to hear about here is white trash and boongs fucking up etc

mention anything else you're a racist redneck etc


TJ is destroying your posts because he assimilates with other Australians and other "imports" and embraces other cultures. You should remove your flanno and try it.

I'm an Aussie, the boys have always made me feel welcome.

Don't mistake the feeling of being unwelcome because you're Australian with being unwelcome because you're just a redneck idiot.

Clear example of you labelling someone a redneck idiot because they dont idolise the same fuck australia we're right idiology

[Traitor]

Only saw the quote from fourseven's post - so my bad.

End of the day doesn't really matter. Everyone will have their own views and I think most will agree that something must be done about the way the government is handling the immigration system/entry system into our country.

[DanWA]

according to tj etc

its perfectly fine how it is and they are a big help to society and that its the bogan dole bludgers that needa fuckoff

[Traitor]

Well I think that's not what they are trying to say.. You have just interpreted it that way.

[fourseven]

Clear example of you labelling someone a redneck idiot because they dont idolise the same fuck australia we're right idiology

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...

[shifted]

its perfectly fine how it is and they are a big help to society and that its the bogan dole bludgers that needa fuckoff

From what I read of TJ's posts, he clearly stated that the laws currently are not working and the CURRENT immigrants should in no way be compared to those post-war.

The amount of ignorance in this thread is somewhat astounding.

Bogan dole bludger or immigrant dole bludger makes no difference - IMO anyway. Same shit, different brush.

[Torquen]

Don't mistake the feeling of being unwelcome because you're Australian with being unwelcome because you're just a redneck idiot.

This guy!

[DanWA]

ah still much hate for australians

what a country we live in!

[Torquen]

I've argued with dogs more intelligent than you. You can't seem to grapple the simple concept that a lot of Aussies are racists, ignorant and unwilling when it comes to immigration and aboriginal issues. I love Australia, and while it's not perfect (like all countries), I would never live anywhere else. I show show disdain for the small minded and racist views that exists in some of the population that resides here.

[HANS YOLO]

You werent born here, no centrelink... simple... old or young.


my Dad wasn't born here but when he came here he was sent to war by the government to shoot and be shot at....like fuck he won't be claiming a double pension for being a hero....its a shame he went to fight for a way of life (right or wrong) for some people like you!

edit: he is 63 yrs old and still working H.A.M. (hard as a mother fucker)...even though he is probably entitled to kick back due to post traumatic stress and bleed off the government

[slypsi]

Xibit0r is probably just upset because 9 months before he was born his mum fucked a boong and a wog behind the Collie pub, so he doesnt know who his real dad is.

[DanWA]

I've argued with dogs more intelligent than you. You can't seem to grapple the simple concept that a lot of Aussies are racists, ignorant and unwilling when it comes to immigration and aboriginal issues. I love Australia, and while it's not perfect (like all countries), I would never live anywhere else. I show show disdain for the small minded and racist views that exists in some of the population that resides here.

Thats alot coming from a fucking ginger

You can't grapple the simple concept that a lot of non Aussies are racists, ignorant and unwilling when it comes to Australian issues to accept Australians. Its clear throughout this thread who you all are to.

Same thing goes, labelled a racist as soon as you say something about immigration. Call an aussie a bogan piece of shit and you're awesome.

Everyone has a difference in opinion but it seams here, unless you hate on Australians, its going to end up in trolling abuse.

NOTAGOLF: That post was apart of feeding the troll (TJ)


Xibit0r is probably just upset because 9 months before he was born his mum fucked a boong and a wog behind the Collie pub, so he doesnt know who his real dad is.

I'm not from Collie asshat, FAIL post.

[slypsi]

You dont need to be born in Collie for your mother to have copped some black schlong down that way.

White power!

[Torquen]

There are not enough facepalms on the interwebs for the retardedness of your posts Xibit0r.

Everyone has an opinion here, and yours is just wrong.

[HANS YOLO]

NOTAGOLF: That post was apart of feeding the troll (TJ)



no probs mate...i get upset about veterans entitlements!

[DanWA]

There are not enough facepalms on the interwebs for the retardedness of your posts Xibit0r.

Everyone has an opinion here, and yours is just wrong.

no, yours is wrong you racist ginger

you think my posts are retarded because i dont share your hate for australians

[TJ]

of course tj can destroy me with his interweb posts, what else do you do as a virgin but study post warfare
thats why my posts started to dumb down to tj spec levels

LOL - take long running internet joke, take as gospel, hope to insult someone in a vain attempt to get leverage. No deal. I am not sure what you did in high school, but most of what I referenced is basic Australian history in social studies - you know, the country you are apparently so proud and protective of.

Your posts started off so far below the ones I blatantly fucked around with its not funny.

Heres some points for your consideration.

1. Stop trying to make yourself feel better by calling me out as a troll - I made it perfectly obvious that my original posts were trolling - and designed to suck in certain people. You were one of them - well done. If you wanted the captain obvious award, you got it. If you wanted some sort of footing to discredit my legimate posts, you fail.

2. Stop with the bleeding heart waaah waaah hate on aussies BULLSHIT. No one here hates Australians. I believe they hate ignorant bigots. They exist over the world. For example - the KKK, the Nazi's, The Skinheads, and so forth. The only difference between them and you is that they have a flag and a group behind them. Its a pathetic excuse to discredit arguments in this thread. I lolled hard when you called anti Australian because I wasnt from here and thus hated Aussies - funnily enough I was born in Subiaco.

3. The reason you are getting hammered in here is because everything you are saying is opinion touted as fact. If you want to enter a debate, provide facts and figures to back them - not just some shit you made up, or you heard and thought would suit your opinion.

4. Insulting people with "ranga" doesnt equal a point in an argument... unless you are 5. Thats age, not mental capacity.

5. Please keep it up, the pool room will look back on this later down the track and appreciate your efforts at entertaining us.

[Macca]

LOL - take long running internet joke, take as gospel, hope to insult someone in a vain attempt to get leverage. No deal. I am not sure what you did in high school, but most of what I referenced is basic Australian history in social studies - you know, the country you are apparently so proud and protective of.

Your posts started off so far below the ones I blatantly fucked around with its not funny.

Heres some points for your consideration.

1. Stop trying to make yourself feel better by calling me out as a troll - I made it perfectly obvious that my original posts were trolling - and designed to suck in certain people. You were one of them - well done. If you wanted the captain obvious award, you got it. If you wanted some sort of footing to discredit my legimate posts, you fail.

2. Stop with the bleeding heart waaah waaah hate on aussies BULLSHIT. No one here hates Australians. I believe they hate ignorant bigots. They exist over the world. For example - the KKK, the Nazi's, The Skinheads, and so forth. The only difference between them and you is that they have a flag and a group behind them. Its a pathetic excuse to discredit arguments in this thread. I lolled hard when you called anti Australian because I wasnt from here and thus hated Aussies - funnily enough I was born in Subiaco.

3. The reason you are getting hammered in here is because everything you are saying is opinion touted as fact. If you want to enter a debate, provide facts and figures to back them - not just some shit you made up, or you heard and thought would suit your opinion.

4. Insulting people with "ranga" doesnt equal a point in an argument... unless you are 5. Thats age, not mental capacity.

5. Please keep it up, the pool room will look back on this later down the track and appreciate your efforts at entertaining us.

Fuck me drunk something TJ posted is 100% on the ball, well done sir. I have just read this entire thread and i am now 10 iq points worse off.

Xibitor stick to afl thread some of what you sprout in there is factual.

[RICEY]

Fuck Im Australian and I hate a lot of Australians for making the rest of us look like fuckheads, and I certainly have never been made to feel unwelcome on this forum because of my birthplace.

[DanWA]

No one here hates Australians

That is utter bullshit

[Chrono90]

That is utter bullshit

Lol @ your name. :)

[Slip_]

Antilag - If you're an aussie, you're not welcome


Really?

Wow.

Naaw

[Torquen]

Lol @ your name. :)

Just got home from my exam, read this, LOL!

Now that's the present I was after last night :) Hahaha. Cudos to whoever (I'm guessing TJ) changed it!

[Chrono90]

100 bucks on TJ.

[SircatmaN]

Bloody TJ, first he comes to our country from Subiacoslavia and then he changes our profiles - what next is he gonna take our Jerbs?!? Dey terk er Jerbs!

[Chrono90]

DERKA DERR..

To the pile!

[TJ]

100% promise it was not me.

I'm in a car 150km out of Perth right now. Not driving!

[BIGS]

I just shake my head at 'immigrationFTW' seriously can't believe he's for real.

[SircatmaN]

first I lost my Job!

"dey terk is jerb!"

Then my dog!

"dey terk is derg!"

[SircatmaN]

100% promise it was not me.

I'm in a car 150km out of Perth right now. Not driving!

If it wasn't TJ, then who was phone?

[R3N]

100 bucks on TJ.

Cough it up sunshine!

[Jumanji]

Truly wise words spoken by the thong slapper 5l owner with China tempe wheels.

How long is your rats tail ?

I am glad that you rebuttal was completely irrelevant to the topic that i was originally talking about.

It was meant as a joke, it wasnt meant maliciously.

Thank you for the kind comments in regards to my property, I am glad that you can judge people just as easily as people can associate racism in todays culture.

If however you would like to have a debate on how a Horizontally opposed Lawnmower is far superior to a "Thong Slapper V8" I would love to :)

P.s although my previous comment wasnt "politically correct" it is quite cost effective in comparrison to the governments current methods.

[SimonR32]

Fuck Im Australian and I hate a lot of Australians for making the rest of us look like fuckheads, and I certainly have never been made to feel unwelcome on this forum because of my birthplace.

x2

I'm probably have a longer Australian heritage than most people here but unlike people who are posting in this thread my family chose to breed outside their blood relations...

[DanWA]

lol @ Subiacoslavia

[Joe]

Fucking boongs.. they should all go back to where they came from.

[SircatmaN]

Fucking boongs.. they should all go back to where they came from.

Polynesian islands?

[Torquen]

Dreamtime.

[JBAE]

Immigrants >>>>>>>> Boongs! :)

[shifted]

Dreamtime.

LOL

[nicecar]

Fuck me drunk something TJ posted is 100% on the ball, well done sir. I have just read this entire thread and i am now 10 iq points worse off.

Xibitor stick to afl thread some of what you sprout in there is factual.

+1

Xibitor, you related to this retard by any chance

http://i.acdn.us/user/A6972/697208/150_697208-4.gif

[Madhav]

I had it wrong, the burkas can stay on after all if they enter BP. Well there you go, dress up and go for an armed hold up and no one will know it's you.

[mr_mike]

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b37/mike_2882/tor.jpg

[Steppo_GT]

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b37/mike_2882/tor.jpg


^^ DUFUS V2!! Same car too!

[fourseven]

Tell me that isn't Xibitor in that photo?

[Jumanji]

its not.

[INSINR8R]

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/8266563/hood-free-zones-in-brisbane-west

It's a bloody outrage it is.

[Torquen]

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/8266563/hood-free-zones-in-brisbane-west

It's a bloody outrage it is.

Lol, hardly. Makes perfect sense to me. Also how much effort is it to remove your hood for the 2 minutes you're in the shop. If you're worried about being cold I'm sure the shops have heating.

[Ryan1080]

At least muslim pingpingpingpings won't scream racism when they ask them to take their head covering off...

[INSINR8R]

Lol, hardly. Makes perfect sense to me. Also how much effort is it to remove your hood for the 2 minutes you're in the shop. If you're worried about being cold I'm sure the shops have heating.

How hard is it for them to remove their veil when police ask them to?

[SSICK]

At least muslim pingpingpingpings won't scream racism when they ask them to take their head covering off...

did you watch the report on the news?

that no hood shit is just that....shit. WAJ.

[protecon]

Another option > http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/police-hunt-road-thugs-over-multanova-theft-20110629-1gppy.html

lol damn "thugs"

[Torquen]

How hard is it for them to remove their veil when police ask them to?

Religious reason, compared to wearing your hood up on a hoodie cos you're a mad dardy pingpingpingping.

Personally I think you should have to do both (take them off), but I can see why they'd enforce one and not the other.

[SSICK]

lol wearing a hoody makes me a mad dardy pingpingpingping? off the pipe. everyone loves a good hoody.

religion shouldnt govern the law.

[INSINR8R]

lol wearing a hoody makes me a mad dardy pingpingpingping? off the pipe. everyone loves a good hoody.

religion shouldnt govern the law.

This.

I don't know if they remember this, but this isn't a Muslim country.

[JBAE]

it isnt?

[nicecar]

This.

I don't know if they remember this, but this isn't a Muslim country.

LOL I forgot that we are living in Nazi Germany, I agree that no one should try and enforce their own beliefs on others...but last time I checked this is a Multicultural country and people have the right to believe in what they want to. I believe v8 commodores are a pile of shit, does it offend me that you drive one? No (yes).

Maybe stop being so ignorant and read up on why they choose to cover themselves, then you might be able to figure out why it's different to taking off your hoodiee. Having said that, I think it's a stupid custom, however its their choice no matter what country they live in.

[Torquen]

lol wearing a hoody makes me a mad dardy pingpingpingping? off the pipe. everyone loves a good hoody.

religion shouldnt govern the law.

I love a hoodie just as much as the next person, but I don't feel the need to wear my hood when walking into shops.


LOL I forgot that we are living in Nazi Germany, I agree that no one should try and enforce their own beliefs on others...but last time I checked this is a Multicultural country and people have the right to believe in what they want to. I believe v8 commodores are a pile of shit, does it offend me that you drive one? No (yes).

Maybe stop being so ignorant and read up on why they choose to cover themselves, then you might be able to figure out why it's different to taking off your hoodiee. Having said that, I think it's a stupid custom, however its their choice no matter what country they live in.

This.

[SSICK]

however its their choice no matter what country they live in.

fuck man, didnt realise i live here too. its my choice to hate the pingpingpingpings that think there religion is above the law.

fuck off.



Torquen - Its fuckin cold at 5 in the morning, so if i take my hoody off, do i have to take my beanie off too? where does it stop?

[nicecar]

fuck man, didnt realise i live here too. its my choice to hate the pingpingpingpings that think there religion is above the law.

fuck off.

*Their, and as far as I'm aware it's not illegal to wear what they wear. Unless you think we're living in France..

I think the law has a lot more to worry about other than a few muslims wearing a black dress, i.e. hoons.

[SSICK]

I know its not illegal. But it is illegal for a motorcyclist to wear his helmet into a bank or petrol station, and soon enough it sounds like my favourite jumper will be too......but they can flaunt the law because of religion.......This is only the start...

[nicecar]

lol so you're saying you have never tried to get out of a speeding fine, or tried to find a loophole because you've broken the law? A muslim lady who gets out of a ticket because of her dress is opening up a huge black hole, and it's the end of this country. When you do it, it's you being Australian?

http://www.sierrasnowboard.com/forum/uploads/169794/Pot_Calling_the_Kettle_Black_T-Shirt.png

[SSICK]

No i haven't. Ive been let off several times because im such a nice guy. I didnt rant and rave like a fuckhead like that stupid bitch did because they asked her to remove her head gear.

Yeah because their head honcho is pushing for their laws to be brought in. This is just the start.

[Bomber]

1) Become Jedi
2) Buy brand new hoodie
3) Negative profit
4) ???
5) Wear your fuckin gangsta shit wherever the fuck you motherfuckin want
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh230/phizzle24/weblogo.jpg

As I'm sure you'll remember, Jedi get around in hoodies all the time.
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh230/phizzle24/jedirobes.jpg

Don't forget your kickass boots :D
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[nicecar]

No i haven't. Ive been let off several times because im such a nice guy. I didnt rant and rave like a fuckhead like that stupid bitch did because they asked her to remove her head gear.

Yeah because their head honcho is pushing for their laws to be brought in. This is just the start.

Well good on you, you'de definitely be the minority there on this forum. Once again though... lol, head huncho? Where are you getting this information from? Trustworthy 7news? If someone is trying to enforce their beliefs then I agree deport them off.

As I said I'de say there's bigger issues that Australia should be focusing on. I've got 2 DHW on my street and they get the biggest turd race in history hands down. Coon (AKA real "Australian", you are an immigrant too like it or not) robs someone, or threatens with gun and they can't be described as Aboriginal cause its racist. Muslim gets out of a speeding ticket, fuck it's the end of the world. Stolen Generation, get the fuck over it every other race (i.e. that muslim infested country called Yugoslavia) has gone through War and come out hard working. Coons and jews....but that's getting off topic :)

[Torquen]

Torquen - Its fuckin cold at 5 in the morning, so if i take my hoody off, do i have to take my beanie off too? where does it stop?

I have to get up early for work too, so you're preaching to the choir here! :)
It's not cold inside a shop though is my point. Wear your hood up when you're outside/in the car/at home but it's not really to difficult to take it off for the 2,3,4 minutes you're in a store. As you pointed out motorbike riders have to take their helmets off, taking your hood off is based on the same principle.

[baz]

LOL I forgot that we are living in Nazi Germany, I agree that no one should try and enforce their own beliefs on others...but last time I checked this is a Multicultural country and people have the right to believe in what they want to. I believe v8 commodores are a pile of shit, does it offend me that you drive one? No (yes).

Maybe stop being so ignorant and read up on why they choose to cover themselves, then you might be able to figure out why it's different to taking off your hoodiee. Having said that, I think it's a stupid custom, however its their choice no matter what country they live in.

The problem I have with them being allowed to wear this type if shit is that this is only the start of it. We all know where they (Muslims) would like it to end..with this being a Muslim country.
As you have mentioned Nazi Germany I will counter with the statement that Hitler began with making the Jews wear a yellow Star -no-one did anything. Then rounded up a few gypsies-no-one did anything. Then singled-out the gays (so he wasn't all bad!LOL!) again no-one did anything. (not exactly accurate but you get my meaning ?) . This went on and no-one did anything or spoke up and all of a sudden we had the Holocaust.
Just do not want these pingpings to fuck this country up .
"Thin edge of the wedge" is what I mean. If their culture/religion is so great why is their country so fucked and why do they come here for a "better life"?

[HANS YOLO]

so i got this in a stupid chain email but funnily enough it kinda has some sense about it..


IMPORTANT AUSTRALIA WILL BE HOLDING A CENSUS 9th AUGUST 2011

DO NOT LEAVE THE “RELIGION” SECTION BLANK. BE SURE TO AT LEAST TICK CHRISTIAN (OR YOUR UPBRINGING FAITH). 1,000,000 MUSLIMS WILL TICK THEIR BOX. 10,000,000 AUSTRALIANS WILL LEAVE IT BLANK THEN WONDER WHY A MOSQUE IS BUILT IN THEIR NEIGHBOURHOOD!!!

[INSINR8R]

LOL I forgot that we are living in Nazi Germany, I agree that no one should try and enforce their own beliefs on others...but last time I checked this is a Multicultural country and people have the right to believe in what they want to. I believe v8 commodores are a pile of shit, does it offend me that you drive one? No (yes).

Maybe stop being so ignorant and read up on why they choose to cover themselves, then you might be able to figure out why it's different to taking off your hoodiee. Having said that, I think it's a stupid custom, however its their choice no matter what country they live in.

No.

It comes down to the whole "if we were in their country of origin, we would have to abide by their laws."

You've seen in happen. You go to an Arab country and Islam dictates their law, so women have to cover up, can't drink alcohol etc.

It is the same here. They can wear those stupid things, but if they are asked to take them off by authority, they should comply with OUR laws.

Fuck me, why is it so hard to understand?

Oh, I don't give a fuck if you don't like what I drive. It's nice you have an opinion.

Like Tom said before, Religion should not govern law.

[INSINR8R]

Oh and one other thing, just because they ban hoodies in shops, it's not gonna stop people who wanna rob the place.

You can't wear balaclava's in a shop, yet people still do when they rob them. Go figure.

[Torquen]

Oh and one other thing, just because they ban hoodies in shops, it's not gonna stop people who wanna rob the place.

You can't wear balaclava's in a shop, yet people still do when they rob them. Go figure.

Of course it won't stop people robbing shops to start with, but we will be able to identify them and have a greater chance of catching them.

[INSINR8R]

Of course it won't stop people robbing shops to start with, but we will be able to identify them and have a greater chance of catching them.

Err, no.

If people are going to rob a place and wear a hoodie to cover their identity, it'll still be hard, regardless of whether it banned or not.

I don't know if you know this, but robbing a place is breaking the law, so wearing a hoodie to hide themselves isn't going to phase them, I'm pretty sure.

[Torquen]

Err, no.

If people are going to rob a place and wear a hoodie to cover their identity, it'll still be hard, regardless of whether it banned or not.

I don't know if you know this, but robbing a place is breaking the law, so wearing a hoodie to hide themselves isn't going to phase them, I'm pretty sure.

Yes but if it's illegal then it throws up a red flag straight away to a shop keeper that something's not right.

Ehh whatever though. Think what you will, I'm tired of arguing.

[fsbk]

The burqa isn't muslim religious notion. Just sayin'

[Slip_]

Funniest thing about the veil & Burka deal is that most Muslims dont even know the story behind it all. Its actually a very recent phenomena in general for the majority of Islam... which most muslims should be aware of.

Traditionally it was worn by a specific sect in a very isolated location, majority of Muslims traditionally, never included mandatory donning of a burka. Until Recently.

It's only in the last 100years when Islam was 'revised', that it's become known to other sects, and with the 'revisions' of Islam leaning towards being more 'reserved' so to say... its been embraced by the majority.

Basically, half the fuckers running that system dont even know why, they just do it because they can. And because the 'new' Islam... is fucked.

The traditional Islam, was nowhere near as fucked and controlling of it's people and women.

Run that past them next time they get all high and mighty and watch their eyes glaze over in sheer ignorance.

[mickag]

No.

It comes down to the whole "if we were in their country of origin, we would have to abide by their laws."

You've seen in happen. You go to an Arab country and Islam dictates their law, so women have to cover up, can't drink alcohol etc.

It is the same here. They can wear those stupid things, but if they are asked to take them off by authority, they should comply with OUR laws.

Fuck me, why is it so hard to understand?

Oh, I don't give a fuck if you don't like what I drive. It's nice you have an opinion.

Like Tom said before, Religion should not govern law.


Sounds like your talking from experience? Have you ever been to places quoted? Take Dubai (United Arab Emirates) for instance. Do they force you to wear it there?

If you stopped listening to the bullshit people feed you then you might actually learn a thing or two. Not saying that I support it or am against it but if you would really like to know the answer then go find out for yourself...

[INSINR8R]

Sounds like your talking from experience? Have you ever been to places quoted? Take Dubai (United Arab Emirates) for instance. Do they force you to wear it there?

If you stopped listening to the bullshit people feed you then you might actually learn a thing or two. Not saying that I support it or am against it but if you would really like to know the answer then go find out for yourself...

Not myself but a friend of my Mum's who worked in Dubai and Saudi Arabia. He said it is exactly like that.

[MrMayhem]

Woman wearing any sort of head dress in Saudi Arabia isn't an issue for speed cameras as woman are prohibited from driving.

[mickag]

Not myself but a friend of my Mum's who worked in Dubai and Saudi Arabia. He said it is exactly like that.

Thats fine. I know a lot of people as well who are working in that part of the region and I personally have travelled to a number of countries there too and can assure you its not as bad as what they make it out to be. Dubai is so "Westernized" now then it has ever been. There are a heap of clubs, girls are "free" where ever you go and noone is "forced" to wear anything. A woman can choose whether she wants to wear the head piece or not because if they do they feel like they are closer to god. Pretty much exactly the same as nuns due to the same reason "modesty".

There might be one or two countries in the area which may be a bit more strict but it does not mean that is the generally majority. I am sure you would have seen on the news that there are demonstrations occurring due to people demanding more rights and freedom of speech but that is a more complex topic. I am sure that if you check out travel sites and some travel shows that they will paint a clearer picture than what people percept that part of the region to be.

Regards,
Mick.

[SSICK]

mmmm they want their own laws.......interest free bank loans, and family laws.

Jul 11, 2011 10:03am

ISLAMIC leaders call for Muslims in Australia to get interest free bank loans and recognition of sharia law in the Family Court.

The nation's Islamic leaders want recognition of sharia law as it applies to banking practices, according to an exclusive Herald Sun survey of imams.

There was also a call for recognition of sharia law as it applies to family law

[JBAE]

yeh why not i say give it to them! mayaswell get things under way! this spineless country will likely cave to them at some point eventually!

[j3rk]

Keen to convert to islam, take out 10mil loan interest free loan, live in peppermint grove!

[Ryan1080]

Keen to convert to islam, take out 10mil loan interest free loan, live in peppermint grove!

LOL Exactly my thoughts!

I'll sign up to be a muslim just for that! Hopefully there is no requirement to regularly rock up to any religious gigs, I just want to be one on paper for cheap loans...

On a serious note, what bank will give them interest free loans? Unless they apply to a bank in afghanistan or some other shit hole. I'll be pissed if they made it law and your aussie bank will have to give interest free loans. That will obvioulsy be at the expense of other people...

[MadDocker]

My understanding is the interest free loan doesn't mean no charges, there is a fixed amount charged over X number of years so not 1 for 1.

[TJ]

Interest free loan?

Praise be to allah! 47 virgils and all that!

[coFF33]

allah akbaru?

[JBAE]

allah akbaru?

makes sense! they both have similiar liking for exploding!

[DanWA]

This could actually end up happening in NSW, its like spot the non-muslim in some places over there!

[Ryan1080]

So, if it is against their religion to charge interest, does that also apply to any other 'return on investment' scenarios?

So if I was renting, and my landlord is muslim, I can technically speaking not pay him rent and he should be fine with it, because I'd be respecting his religion?

I likes this!