Yes, its another 180

[siamak]

Hey guys,

Thought I should start a build thread.

Picked this up from Dan, the car has probably had a few owners.

I pretty much fell in love with it when I saw it, it was all covered in dirt and neglected but had alot of potential.

Here are the specs:

1993 180sx w/ SR20DET Black Top 1995(sourced from KYP)

Engine Modifications

Apexi Pod Filter and Adaptor
Apexi Power FC + Controller
Nismo 550cc Injectors
TRUST T518z turbo
Tial 38mm External Wastgate
Turbotech MBC
Turbosmart Vee-Port BOV
Full 3 inch s/s Turbo Back Exaust.
Tomei Rocker Arm Stoppers
HKS Cams 256in/264ex 11.5mm Lift
HKS step 2 valve springs
HKS Adjustable Cam Gears
Hybird FMIC
S/s 3 inch Intake Pipe
S/s Custom Intercooler piping
S/s Exaust Manifold (heat wrapped)
Braided Oil Feed Line
TRUST copy Oil Cooler w/braided lines
Engine Torque Damper
Oil Catch Can
Exedy Heavy Duty Cerametallic Clutch
X-Treme Chromoly Lightened Flywheel
Walbro 255lph Fuel Pump
Z32 AFM
Oil Filter Relocation Kit (so handy!)


Interior/Sound

Apexi EL 60 mm Electronic Boost Gauge
AutoGauge Smoked Face 52mm Gauges and Adaptors(oil Temp,Pressure,Water)
Apexi Pen Turbo Timer
Momo Competition Race Wheel
R32 GTR seats.
Racquet grip on handbrake (pro) =P
Drift button
TRUST shift knob

Alpine deck
Alpine Type R 6” splits
Alpine Type S 6x9’s
Soundstream 250W Amp
Alpine 250W Amp
Bazooka 8” sub


Exterior/Visual

Full Inside & Out Black Respray
Polished Rocker Cover
Nismo Option Side Skirts
Rolled Rear Guards
Type X Front Bar/lip
DMAX Smoked Tail Lights
Clear Indicators all round


Suspension/Rims

17x8.5 and 17x9.5 Work Mesh Dish Rims
Cusco Front Strut Brace
Drift Pineapples
Jap Rear Camber Arms
Hicas Lock Bar
HKS Hypermax Coilovers Adjustable
Just Jap 5 stud Hubs
R33 Front Brakes
Aftermarket Rear Stut Brace
Nismo 2 Way Mechanical Diff 4.3 Ratio


Car currently has a yellow and is unrego'd. Also has a blown manifold - china spec.

Here's a pic of when i dropped it off at Oz's shop.

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/6699/siamakcar.jpg (http://img135.imageshack.us/i/siamakcar.jpg/)

Oz pulled off the Greddy Turbo and put a stock manifold and t28 on for me for pits.

After a wash and some fresh fuel.

http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/4572/siamakcar1.jpg (http://img546.imageshack.us/i/siamakcar1.jpg/)

Might as well plug my mechanic (Oz).
He knows S series cars and skylines very very well. Does all work from basic servicing, clutch changes to full forged motors, very reasonably priced and genuinely cares - 0401 564 822.

Plans:

Get it rego'd
740cc's
reconsider turbo options, looking for something with very good top end
considering a cage

[Skitzo]

LOL, So you finally picked it up.

[DenZel]

always liked this car

goodluck with the pits.

[Jiblet]

pics don't do it justice. More!!!

[lambchops]

Loved this when nick built it and it still looks amazing.

Looking forward to seeing it on the road soon!

[siamak]

LOL, So you finally picked it up.

hahahah 3 months later, yeeeer.

[siamak]

Loved this when nick built it and it still looks amazing.

Looking forward to seeing it on the road soon!

Fingers crossed should be on the road in a week or so.

I'm trying to find a genuine type x front bumper (never going to happen), the current fibreglass one has seen better days..

[disc0-dan]

I'm assuming you took it for a drive with stock turbo ? How did the old girl go ?

[ovaxitd]

awsome buy... you will be stoked... now clean her up and return her to former glory.... porn 180.... get front bar painted ... old owner knows paint details ....

p.s change your avatar

[kurbn]

thats hot as! looks like its come up well with a clean.

[mitchsterbrau]

looks great, engine mods are awesome too! love to see the sheet when you have time.:)
http://www.j-imports.com.au/ have a type x bar for sale [with fogs].

[Skitzo]

hahahah 3 months later, yeeeer.

We almost stripped it and said it was stolen :P

[disc0-dan]

We almost stripped it and said it was stolen :P

Haha yeah came close to being a rolling shell ;p lol

[SimonR32]

Why did the Greddy turbo have to come off to go over the pits?!?

[_oz]

I'm assuming you took it for a drive with stock turbo ? How did the old girl go ?

Even with the stale fuel in the tank she drove really well! No miss or anything.


Why did the Greddy turbo have to come off to go over the pits?!?

The s/s manifold that was on there was cracked (external gate provision had actually completely snapped off lol), only thing holding the gate onto the car was the vac line.

The Greddy turbo was originally an internally gated turbo so the wastegate flap was welded shut too, all of this could have been repaired but its far more easier to just bolt a t28 on with a stock manifold rather than convert it back to internal gate and hope the inspectors don't pick up on "modified turbocharger".

Besides, i dont think he wants to put that turbo back on anyway as hes still unsure on what turbo setup to go for. Suggestions? :)

[disc0-dan]

Why did the Greddy turbo have to come off to go over the pits?!?


Destroyed manifold, blew the pipe down to the ex gate in half

[Bomber]

Besides, i dont think he wants to put that turbo back on anyway as hes still unsure on what turbo setup to go for. Suggestions? :)

Be different and put a Disco Potato on it

[PAGZ]

gtx3071r doooo et

[siamak]

Im tossing up whether or not to keep the 518z or move up to a td-06.

I want to hit around the 270kw+ mark. I've been trolling around to find results with out great success.

Also looking at getting:
http://www.frsport.com/Nismo-54480-RSS30-Power-Brace-RPS13-S13-Chassis_p_1263.html

Anyone tried fender braces before?
http://www.frsport.com/Nagisa-XNG0070-Gacchiri-Fender-Support-Brace-240sx-1989-1994_p_12950.html

[Gleeso]

Very nice 180. Needs a set of Type X Lights on the rear

Be keen to know what difference those fender supports make.

[disc0-dan]

Very nice 180. Needs a set of Type X Lights on the rear

Be keen to know what difference those fender supports make.

Wtffff ? Type x tail lights to replace the smoked Dmax ones ? Worst call ever lol

[siamak]

I agree, i think the car looks great with the dmax rears.

[ondyg]

lovin' those tail lights!

[mitchsterbrau]

have a look here for some limited info on bracing types. (http://www.nissansilvia.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=391282)
brace it from the rear or centre first....180sx chassis twists in the rear most.
do-luck floor brace is awesome and you can really feel the difference, but that is my opinion running in my car, there are mixed views.

then brace the LH chassis rail with a uras chassis bar.
http://www.sillbeer.com/images/underneath/rear-end.jpg
should stiffen the crap out of it, if you're suspension is stiff enough to feel the difference that is. what are the springs you are running?

[Gleeso]

Hahaha

Ok, I guess those smoked taillights do look good. Just I love Type X Rears..and it's not my car soo keep em :D

Edit: That picture above is pure sex..I hope to achieve that some day

[siamak]

have a look here for some limited info on bracing types. (http://www.nissansilvia.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=391282)
brace it from the rear or centre first....180sx chassis twists in the rear most.
do-luck floor brace is awesome and you can really feel the difference, but that is my opinion running in my car, there are mixed views.

then brace the LH chassis rail with a uras chassis bar.
http://www.sillbeer.com/images/underneath/rear-end.jpg
should stiffen the crap out of it, if you're suspension is stiff enough to feel the difference that is. what are the springs you are running?

Fuck is that under your car? So clean. Whats with that new piece of chassis rail in the left of the picture?

I havent checked the spring rates yet, ill take a look well i pull the HKS coilovers off for stockies for the pits.

I've had a look at the complete driftworks suspension range, doesn't seem too exxy and could be worth-while? As long as I take to a proper suspension joint for fine tuning > WA suspensions?

[timmm]

i never realised how long the mod list was. i should of bought this when i had the chance.

i look forward to the MEGA build.

ps. Dan i spotted you in the jz on riley road the morning after siamak i picked up the 180, i was in the glitter pig s14.

[siamak]

Also spent most the night trolling for parts.

Looking at 850cc sard injectors, new DJ. The yen is damn good atm.

Still trying to find comparisons between

Trust 518z
Trust TD06
Garret GT/X3076R
Precision 5556


Like I said im chasing 270kw mark, nice top end, not super laggy. Ill also consider changing cams if need be.

Dont want to run more than 20 pounds or have to pay for two gates with twin scroll 3076.

[mitchsterbrau]

siamak, no dude....that's brendans s13.
inspiration to us all. http://www.sillbeer.com/

the driftworks stuff is china..hence the prices.
wa suspension for sure. i will never buy cheap suspension bits again,
the only bit of china on my car was the one that snapped. [rear toe arm]

:)

[siamak]

What other reasonable brands are worth considering?

[mitchsterbrau]

maybe get it licensed first, and take it for a run on the track?
that way you can log the way mods change the handling.
plus this car seems to have some great mods already, get out there and enjoy. :)

[disc0-dan]

i never realised how long the mod list was. i should of bought this when i had the chance.

i look forward to the MEGA build.

ps. Dan i spotted you in the jz on riley road the morning after siamak i picked up the 180, i was in the glitter pig s14.

Yeah man saw ya too, gave the thumbs up. Car looks nice man, now time for some mods! :p

[Jimmy_S]

Looks very clean!... Better pics please!

[DJ84WA]

What other reasonable brands are worth considering?

If you got the coin, Ikeya Formula. :)

[lambchops]

Fuck is that under your car? So clean. Whats with that new piece of chassis rail in the left of the picture?



s13/180s have a piece of chassis rail missing from factory. not sure the reason behind this though? brendan has just filled in the gap

[siamak]

I swear a posted a reply here but it never came up.

Oh well here goes.

I've been looking at a twin scroll GT3076R setup, based on juggernauts excellent results.

Advantages of the single vs dual gates?

Fullrace vs 6boost manifolds?

[siamak]

Fitting the stock suspension, rims and camber arms today.

Car is sitting sky high.

[siamak]

http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/9220/imagevvt.jpg

Worst.

[disc0-dan]

oh thats painful to see ! :-P make sure you get it back to its former glory ASAP lol

[Dirty Deuce]

that is soo clean mate. pretty sharp bend in the exhaust.

[siamak]

/\ /\ This guy retarded?

Anyway, I was busy with uni but have been working on it now in my break.

Changed my tie rod ends cause the standard ones were leaking.
Scariest drive to the tyre shop in the rain, car was all over the road until i got the alignment.

http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/8494/imagejuv.jpg

A few things to do before i can pass pits on friday, have to get some stock s14/15 rims or a new pair of tyres, change the steering wheel to one with a horn and detail the engine bay a bit so i get hassled less.

After I pass I'm going to change the dash over to an uncracked one, put a new deck in, put the old rims back on, redump the car, put the aftermarket camber arms back on and put some type x gear from Mayhem. Also going to cancel this bov, have no idea how to get it off though.

http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/5299/imageizh.jpg

[mitcho]

Should be 3 allen head grub screws around the base. Undo, remove BOV and take intercooler pipe to fab shop to cut the pipe off and weld hole up. Or just put some random object in the end of the pipe like most do

[disc0-dan]

Bov is plumbed back from memory, you want a whistle do ya ?

[siamak]

I checked the hose, didn't lead to anywhere.

There was 2 10mm nuts around the base, haven't found a third. The thread extrudes through the BOV. Pretty weird.

I'll probably go to clark rubber to find a cover.

[disc0-dan]

Thats wired the Bov didn't make any noise ... just dose.

[siamak]

A bit more progress today.

Westy sorted me out with two second hand 16"s with decent tread to replace my worn stocky rears for the pits.

Also went and gave the engine bay and the wheel arches a quick detail.

Spent a while trying to get the boss kit off but couldnt do it, even with a steering wheel removal tool, the horn isn't working either and neither is the central locking from the outside. Air con blows air but not cold. I need to work out how to reverse the drift handbrake to standard function aswell as get the indicators to cancel when turning.

Before
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/6181/imagekgti.jpg

After
http://img860.imageshack.us/img860/3108/imagefaf.jpghttp://img703.imageshack.us/img703/1849/imageibe.jpg

Need to find a cashie to sort a few of these things out for me. Let me know if anyone is up for it.

[goodie]

If its got a drift button, just pull the button off, remove the handbrake cover, and bend the two pins on the handbrake back into the spring.

Indicators to cancel, would most probably be the boss kit itself.

Horn could be a few things, make sure its grounded properly, wires are connected in the first place and properly.

A/C blowing cool air, probably just needs a regas, but could be something else.

Good luck at the pits :)

[siamak]

Sorted out the handbrake.

Also went and picked up a excellent condition type x steering wheel, problem is the 'cock spring?' that came with it doesnt cancel my indicators. I'm going to have to borrow a type x indicator for pits tomorrow.
http://img815.imageshack.us/img815/8679/imageayj.jpg

Also got the horn working and picked up some JDM rain guards.
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/394/imagetdj.jpg

[jaybee]

i am pretty sure a type x indicator doesn't plug into the old 180 standard loom, the plugs are totally different, actually the whole assembly is totally different.

[siamak]

FUUUUUU. Super frustrating. Looks like I may then have to put the 32GTR wheel on and get the auto sparky to rewire the horn. Fml.

[Skitzo]

JDM Rain guards only look good on 4 doors.

Coming along nicely though. Wish i had of seen this when dan had it.

[siamak]

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4234/imageoin.jpg

FML. I had 3 inspectors looking over and under my car. Worst shit ever.

They did a dodgy with the exhuast noise, revved my car for a good 5 minutes. 92DB :(

Front bumper is secure, not sure where ill grab the splash guards.
I sorted out the seats and the pod securing (bolt wasnt all the way in). The turbo oil return line is the fucking catch can line, i guess ill put a clamp on that shit.

Its going to have to wait till I go over again, no time now.

Not sure whether to get a silencer for the exhuast or slot in a piece of metal flange that restricts the exhuast near the cat.
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/9783/imageijla.jpg

[Sfidz]

just get a silencer to put in the cannon.
List isn't really that bad.

[Gleeso]

See if you can borrow a silencer on SilWa, and check out some threads for wrecks. May be able to get the splash guards from that.

[TJ]

That list is pretty good I dare say.

[Skitzo]

Splash guards suck hard core. shittest thign ever. don't really make a car unsafe, and they aren't easy to come by.

[Gleeso]

Splash guards suck hard core. shittest thign ever. don't really make a car unsafe, and they aren't easy to come by.

Definitely the hardest thing to achieve on the list.

[evoeata]

That list is pretty good I dare say.

+1. if thats all they got then your doing real well. all really easy to fix.

[joelt]

What i did when i took my car over the pits to fix the exhaust noise, a mate of mine got some real thin sheet metal, like 1-2mm cut it to the shape of the cat flange, and drilled several holes 10mm holes in it. Worked perfectly and you could hardly hear the car at all. Simple but effective

[siamak]

The flange thing didnt work out for me, wasted a few hours in line and the guy did a quite measurement and apparently it came up to 110db!

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/1791/imagecqh.jpg

Everywhere in perth I went to didnt have a 4" silencer, and the silencer i got from a forum member here turned out to be 4 1/4". So I went had got a silencer fabricated and passed!

The guy at the re-inspection tried to ping me for something else, he said my bumper support had been cut and I said fuck off, its not on the list.

So stoked to have it on the road, its fucking loud.

http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/3520/imagezknm.jpg

Today i'm going to put it back on the HKS coilies and put the rims and taillights back on and change the boost controller.

[siamak]

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/9020/imageatr.jpg
http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/1337/imageqyq.jpg

Needs moar low.

[Crispymk2]

Nice work mate, glad to hear its back on the road.

[siamak]

Been a while since I've done an update.

Small teaser, car is getting tuned next Thursday @ hyperdrive. Thanks to Tim, Oz, Clint and Steve for their help.

http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg194/scaled.php?server=194&filename=photowyn.jpg&res=landing

[disc0-dan]

Thats still the T518z yeah ?

[siamak]

Yep yep. Im im interested to see how it goes.

Also have some 740's going in.

[disc0-dan]

Good turbo for street duties. Makes good power and nice and quickly

[volt_bite]

I swear a posted a reply here but it never came up.

Oh well here goes.

I've been looking at a twin scroll GT3076R setup, based on juggernauts excellent results.

Advantages of the single vs dual gates?

Fullrace vs 6boost manifolds?

Clint told me about this car on Monday. Was wondering who he was referring to.

Yes, I went GTX3076R with twin gates, will let you know how I go.

As for 6Boost V Full-Race, thats a hard one. You are paying about 50% more for the full-race, it does look pretty but won't matter when you heat coat it.

[siamak]

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/1813/photo5ch.jpg
Go CLINT!

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/7471/photo4lta.jpg
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/1083/photo3rf.jpg
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/849/photo2fo.jpg

2 cans of ceramic in a can later. Wish I baked it in an oven.

[siamak]

So finally bolted everything back together today.

Fired it up and sounded great. BUT FML - Lost about a litre of oil.

The oil feed line off the block had a major leak.

Took it all off again, and I confirmed that the bolt on there wasn't a standard Nissan one.

The block is cross threaded and even with the standard Nissan bolt I went and got from KYP and using a bit of teflon tape the cross-threading defeated me.

So devo. Need help..

[timmm]

nice lawn

[siamak]

Soz about your driveway Tim.

[3sgte]

get a tap and die and a slightly larger bolt. Pain in the ass but all good if you can get to it.

[siamak]

Clint saved the day with the thread.

Car is bolted back together ready for the tune on tuesday.

Gate sounds MENTAL.

[_oz]

299.9hp ?

[180SXTCY]

coming along nicely...but getting stupid idea's about my 180 now haha...

[disc0-dan]

I assume you retained the cams and power FC for this ? Should make easy over 300 with just over 1bar.

[siamak]

Yepyep. I hope for slightly more!

[siamak]

Sadly up for sale now...

http://antilag.com/forums/showthread.php?55304-FS-180sx-Great-little-package&p=1029485#post1029485

[disc0-dan]

Where did this thing end up?