View Full Version : Halal: I just want some fucking bacon.
Sammish
08-03-2011, 06:52 PM
Hello!
I decided this morning that i would go and buy some bacon so i could enjoy a sandwich. So i drove down to my local IGA, walked in....went to the bacon fridge...no bacon....awww shit.... ok no worries.... i know ill get sausages....walk to the sausage fridge....nothing....wtf....OK then....time for drastic actions.... walk to the shelf guy "hello guy, why don't you have any breakfast meat i need something to eat!" "Oh I'm sorry sir we are halal only now." "oh no worries, but... i really want bacon...." "you will need to go elsewhere sir we are not allowed to sell it...." damn....
went to another iga.... same shit no bacon.... asked the butcher in the shopping center...no bacon....fuck....
SO where the fuck did this come from? surely people who choose to follow the Muslim faith arnt that big a part of the market to justify removing all of the delicious bacon and such from IGA.... i was looking into it..apparently they cant sell certain lollies because they have cow feet in them....
I know one of the blokes who uses this forum is a butcher...well he posts a lot of meat related things so i assume hes a butcher.... So to u sir... why the fuck are people pulling bacon off the shelves to satisfy a massive minority? how is this a good business practice...is there a lot of pressure on yourself to be all halalish.
I'm not a muslim basher by any stretch of the imagination but i would like to atleast be able to identify between a normal iga and halal iga.... so then i dont have to waste my time...
also....i hear nandos is 100% halal now? confirm/deny? why dont they have to inform people of it?
Brett_J
08-03-2011, 06:57 PM
Isn't Halal just the way its prepared?
Isn't Halal just the way its prepared?
how its slaughtered... and no pork
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mr_rotary
08-03-2011, 07:04 PM
Why I avoid Halal butchers like the plague - not for the faint hearted.
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Brett_J
08-03-2011, 07:06 PM
how its slaughtered... and no pork
What else would have I meant? The way it's arranged in the fridge? The way the butcher walk when he carries it?
Just look a bit fuckin harder.. if I can get bacon in Yokine, you can find bacon elsewhere.
What else would have I meant? The way it's arranged in the fridge? The way the butcher walk when he carries it?
Settle... was giving the full definition, that and no pork
Sammish
08-03-2011, 07:11 PM
Just look a bit fuckin harder.. if I can get bacon in Yokine, you can find bacon elsewhere.
why should i they advertise bacon in every one of their letter drops...so i assume they should all stock bacon....
tinto
08-03-2011, 07:23 PM
Everything is better with bacon.
http://www.voccoquan.com/images/greg%20kinnear%20as%20good%20as%20it%20gets.JPG
Mirrabooka has bacon, your suburb has bacon.
For those that don't know, slaughtering meat Halal style is basically this: Say a prayer, slit the animals throat, let it bleed out.
I'm not sure if it's true or i may be confusing this with something else, but i heard the animal has to be facing a certain direction? East or something?
Butla
08-03-2011, 07:38 PM
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BACON BACON BACON BACON BACON BACON
evilvl
08-03-2011, 07:39 PM
Should have gone here man, they have all kinds of pork products
http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/201002/r514138_2801334.jpg
My iga has it. Maybe management is Muslim?
AMPERAGE
08-03-2011, 08:18 PM
This kind of thing infuriates me - the Australian population is 1.7% Islamic and yet corporations like IGA are willing to yield to the micro minority.
I am by no means a racist - if you want to come to Australia and you have something to contribute, you are most welcome. But if you want to live in Australia, you need to become an Australian. It is frustrating that people from foreign countries come here and then demand we make special allowances for their religions and beliefs.
I don't get it. If you can't eat it, than don't buy it? Why does it have to be taken off the shelf?
What a fucking joke.
DanWA
08-03-2011, 08:31 PM
fucking muslims.
JNR man
08-03-2011, 08:33 PM
This kind of thing infuriates me - the Australian population is 1.7% Islamic and yet corporations like IGA are willing to yield to the micro minority.
I am by no means a racist - if you want to come to Australia and you have something to contribute, you are most welcome. But if you want to live in Australia, you need to become an Australian. It is frustrating that people from foreign countries come here and then demand we make special allowances for their religions and beliefs.
+1
My daughter works at an IGA and they sell bacon Asian owners not Muslim
FUCK OFF WERE FULL
schnoods
08-03-2011, 08:38 PM
For those that don't know, slaughtering meat Halal style is basically this: Say a prayer, slit the animals throat, let it bleed out.
I'm not sure if it's true or i may be confusing this with something else, but i heard the animal has to be facing a certain direction? East or something?
Mecca as far as I know.
fucking muslims.
Possibly that, i wouldnt go that far to label, but i am severely against a minority that tries to change our way of life because of their custom, For the better? (maybe healthwise) but its not the fkn point.
Same like my brothers year 5 class couldnt do anything christmas themed that year because of some jehovahs witness in the class. yet they witness santa, christ and the whole caboodle at the fkn shops....
Alt_F4
08-03-2011, 08:39 PM
Thread about bacon? Any excuse to watch this again...
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gsr freak
08-03-2011, 08:46 PM
that meat would be as tough as hell to eat as any beast slaughtered under stress like that would be pumping adrenalin through its muscles which make the end product basicly boot leather
i come from a family that was involved in the meat industry a few years ago now and the best meat came from animals that had no idea that it was coming so there was no chance to pump adrenalin through there muscles to make it tough
best results for most farmers who did there own kills was to put some feed down and as the beast is eating a single shot right into the head killing it instantly
badass
08-03-2011, 08:51 PM
honestly this is australia seriously fuck off bloody letterbox wearing assholes
RELEASE
08-03-2011, 09:01 PM
What else would have I meant? The way it's arranged in the fridge? The way the butcher walk when he carries it?
FUCKEN LOL!!!
Anahera
08-03-2011, 09:05 PM
I understand Australia is a 'multicultural' country (I was born in NZ) BUT... when we travel to other countries we have to respect their culture and customs!
I'm pretty sure bacon is apart of every Australian's breakfast (except the vego's and jews)
I don't fuck sheep in Australia, so why take the bacon off Australian supermarket shelves?
RICEY
08-03-2011, 09:11 PM
Fuck this, next muslim bitch I see Im going to rip her head dress off and fuck her mouth with bacon wrapped around my dick while singing "allahs a faggot"
Fuck this, next muslim bitch I see Im going to rip her head dress off and fuck her mouth with bacon wrapped around my dick while singing "allahs a faggot"
HAHAHAHAHA
Ryan1080
08-03-2011, 09:24 PM
That's outrageous! I'd boycott any store that succumbs to minority un-Australian bullshit. I give IGA a flick anyway, them and their restricted shopping hours bias.
Sammish
08-03-2011, 09:31 PM
Fuck this, next muslim bitch I see Im going to rip her head dress off and fuck her mouth with bacon wrapped around my dick while singing "allahs a faggot"
=D you are getting blown up!
Lonewolf
08-03-2011, 09:40 PM
sister is PA for CEO of IGA, can have a whinge for you when I see her tomorrow :D
In reality, they are independent shops, they can do whatever the hell they want, and are probably catering for a certain market.
I believe you can get "certified" as halal supplier, and muslims from all around will come to buy stuff from you.
My tip, dont buy anything from them, go elsewhere and vote with your cash.
Pretty much every coles and woolies is now open to 9pm now.
Rather than blame Muslims you uncoth bigoted racist morons, perhaps blame the shop owner?
Anahera
08-03-2011, 09:44 PM
The owner is probably muslim... same same
Sammish
08-03-2011, 09:47 PM
Rather than blame Muslims you uncoth bigoted racist morons, perhaps blame the shop owner?
not a real world solution, unless the demand for the food is there (which it clearly isnt realistically as only 1.7% of the population is Muslim) the only real reason for the owners of the stores to cut profits and a client base is due to pressure put on them by the muslim community. i was talking to the guy who owns the deli near me hes an aussie just fyi and he gets letters from the muslim community on a regular basis complaining that he isnt providing them with food and that he is racist for not doing so... its fucked up.
DanWA
08-03-2011, 09:49 PM
love how you're labelled a "uncoth bigoted racist morons" because you're against a minority that instigates bullshit like this with their shit religion
everyone else gets a long fine besides the muslims
even the bloody jews!!!!
Jizz-Lebrity
08-03-2011, 09:52 PM
Rather than blame Muslims you uncoth bigoted racist morons, perhaps blame the shop owner?
Not sure if srs.
I have Muslim friends too, doesn't change the fact that many of them are degenerate pieces of shit.
Ryan1080
08-03-2011, 09:52 PM
love how you're labelled a "uncoth bigoted racist morons" because you're against a minority that instigates bullshit like this with their shit religion
everyone else gets a long fine besides the muslims
even the bloody jews!!!!
+1
Anahera
08-03-2011, 09:59 PM
I'm catholic, I don't tell all the shops to take contraception off the shelves....
except in Rockingham.....
Halle Terry
08-03-2011, 10:01 PM
Rather than blame Muslims you uncoth bigoted racist morons, perhaps blame the shop owner?
LOL
Ok, so lets just take Muslims out of the picture for a second, the shop owner started to decide to sell Halal meat why?
I can't imagine it would be cheaper, when every other butcher slaughters animals in a different method that's less time intensive.
For shits and giggles? Hell how about for the texture?
Feel free to inform me why Halal meat would exist if there were not cultural demand for it.
Pretty brave decision to make by the IGA manager in banning one of the most popular ingredients of Australian culture, in Australia. Im getting pretty annoyed at all this catering for minorities. Im not a racist person and when I have travelled around the world, I adopt the culture of that place and eat the food that place provides.
protecon
08-03-2011, 10:09 PM
sister is PA for CEO of IGA
Pics of sister?
Pretty sure Vegemite is made from non-adjusting new Australians.
Denver
08-03-2011, 10:12 PM
In reality, they are independent shops, they can do whatever the hell they want, and are probably catering for a certain market.
Kinda correct, the independand shop bit is spot on anyway..
Can't believe this thread made two pages before this was pointed out, as it made the news not long ago..
A couple of the new IGA stores that opened won't sell pork bacon etc due to it being against the owners beliefs, theres been a fair public out cry over it, saddly i can'y find anything with google to link to, but its caused a fair shit storm in the local communities..
Rather than blame Muslims you uncoth bigoted racist morons, perhaps blame the shop owner?
And what do you do in the case, like this, where the owner is muslim?..
Make racist comments on a forum to feel better about yourself?
Fujiwara13
08-03-2011, 10:23 PM
love how you're labelled a "uncoth bigoted racist morons" because you're against a minority that instigates bullshit like this with their shit religion
everyone else gets a long fine besides the muslims
even the bloody jews!!!!
Not sure if serious?
You watched the news recently bro?
Make racist comments on a forum to feel better about yourself?
I once dated a redhead :(
Denver
08-03-2011, 10:23 PM
Its not exactly racist whenthe reality is, its a muslims beliefs for the cause of the issue
HANS YOLO
08-03-2011, 10:24 PM
here is the crux of the situation: try this sort of thing in their countries and see what sort of reception you get
protecon
08-03-2011, 10:24 PM
Make racist comments on a forum to feel better about yourself?
Probably because they know the trolls at Today Tonight will most likely have a story about it before the weeks end.
This kind of thing infuriates me - the Australian population is 1.7% Islamic and yet corporations like IGA are willing to yield to the micro minority.
The shop will be owned by a muslim, not IGA as such. I agree it's bullshit that you can't get what you want, but that's just how it is. There was a little thing in Inside Cover of The West a few weeks ago when someone was complaining they couldn't get bacon, one of the Beechboro IGA's is one of the Halal ones.
I also wouldn't support a shop that doesn't have bacon, fuck that shit.
here is the crux of the situation: try this sort of thing in their countries and see what sort of reception you get
This.
blackjack
08-03-2011, 10:41 PM
I don't get it. If you can't eat it, than don't buy it? Why does it have to be taken off the shelf?
I don't get it it either.
AMPERAGE
08-03-2011, 10:47 PM
The shop will be owned by a muslim, not IGA as such.
True. However what really grinds my gears is that although they are opting to not consume the products themselves - which is fine by me - they are trying to push their own personal agenda on everyone else by refusing to even stock the products. It's totally illogical as it will drive customers away. I don't expect that they will attract more Muslim customers - I'm willing to bet that most normal, rational Muslims shop at Coles, IGA and Woolworths like everyone else but simply skip the pork section of the fridges.
From a business point of view, what these Muslims are doing is simply asinine. You can bet your ass that even if a Jew won't eat pork, they'll sure as shit sell it.
Bottom line is that if Muslims feel hard done by due to a lack of selection of Halal foods, there's a bunch of sandy countries out there that will have exactly what they want. But of course you can never suggest that they just go back to where they came from, because it would make you an insensitive racist, now wouldn't it?
Ryan1080
08-03-2011, 10:56 PM
What's with this PC bullshit? Why is it, that as soon as someone criticises a minority in society, for a legitimate reason mind you, straight away they get labeled a bigot and a racist?! Fcuk, if I don't like a certain aspect about someone's religion, I won't bother commenting coz it's none of my business... until they push their shit onto me that is!. Then I have every right to complain, without being called a racist!
Seems like 'racism' is the trigger happy word used in defence by minorities and their goody goody representatives to argue against any legitimate criticsim one might have about how they affect the rest of the society. Yeah, hide behind that racism card then, seems to work as a great divertion strategy for them for sure.
INSINR8R
08-03-2011, 11:00 PM
Throw a Pork Chop at a Muslim day issit?
What's with this PC bullshit? Why is it, that as soon as someone criticises a minority in society, for a legitimate reason mind you, straight away they get labeled a bigot and a racist?! Fcuk, if I don't like a certain aspect about someone's religion, I won't bother commenting coz it's none of my business... until they push their shit onto me that is!. Then I have every right to complain, without being called a racist!
Seems like 'racism' is the trigger happy word used in defence by minorities and their goody goody representatives to argue against any legitimate criticsim one might have about how they affect the rest of the society. Yeah, hide behind that racism card then, seems to work as a great divertion strategy for them for sure.
Because you can present an argument without being pathetic about it.
I have no qualms about people being upset about it - naturally, its pretty shit.
But to sum it up with "fucking muslims" shows lack of intelligence, and a pathetic attitude.
Ryan1080
08-03-2011, 11:10 PM
Because you can present an argument without being pathetic about it.
I have no qualms about people being upset about it - naturally, its pretty shit.
But to sum it up with "fucking muslims" shows lack of intelligence, and a pathetic attitude.
There's always gonna be that element, I guess it's borne out of frustration and nothing else.
Other than one 'fucking muslims' comment, there hasn't been much racist remarks said on here.
Ah well. Hope pingpingpingpings go broke lol!
"TJ fucking lovess Croation slartsss"
Hence why I only addressed that comment.
Like I said, Im in no way for whats happened, I just think it can be expressed in a more appropriate manor.
Ryan1080
08-03-2011, 11:16 PM
Fair enough.
True. However what really grinds my gears is that although they are opting to not consume the products themselves - which is fine by me - they are trying to push their own personal agenda on everyone else by refusing to even stock the products. It's totally illogical as it will drive customers away. I don't expect that they will attract more Muslim customers - I'm willing to bet that most normal, rational Muslims shop at Coles, IGA and Woolworths like everyone else but simply skip the pork section of the fridges.
From a business point of view, what these Muslims are doing is simply asinine. You can bet your ass that even if a Jew won't eat pork, they'll sure as shit sell it.
Bottom line is that if Muslims feel hard done by due to a lack of selection of Halal foods, there's a bunch of sandy countries out there that will have exactly what they want. But of course you can never suggest that they just go back to where they came from, because it would make you an insensitive racist, now wouldn't it?
I beleive Halal meat can't be near regular meat or something, can't have non-Halal to be certified, so that's why they don't have both. I agree, it's retarded.
fuckn dog act tho cutting a beasts throat like that without breaking the neck and/or hitting the chord fucking disgusting TBH...
P.S- if khunts are going to kick up a stink over this crap maybe a lil more investigation is needed and the EXPORT of our live stock to these shit hole pingpingpingpingries is fucked up... the way stock is treated is fucked!
boys are for love, goats are for fun, women are for childern!....
Sully
08-03-2011, 11:42 PM
The stock is generally treated pretty well until it gets off the boat in the other country. There ain't much we can do once it's out of our hands. Less animals die in transit than on farms. Exporters aren't in the business to devalue their cargo. That's a whole other thread though.
Some signage on the shop would probably be a good idea though. IGA already has 3-4 different types of store (express, normal, plus, fuck knows what else) surely if some of them are going down that route they could call it halal iga. Means you don't bother going in there if you want some sacred pig, saves rage.
scj91
08-03-2011, 11:54 PM
"I mean c'mon it's not like he was calling us porch monkeys"
The stock is generally treated pretty well until it gets off the boat in the other country.
thats the issue... and agreeed whole other thread spec...
and yes alot of stock does die on farms/stations but they arnt treated like shit and are destroyed when in a bad way and able too, having been involved with sheep and cattle the majority of my life both molesting and breeding/selling them...
Lonewolf
09-03-2011, 12:02 AM
"I mean c'mon it's not like he was calling us porch monkeys"
I'm bringing it back!
Skipmaster J
09-03-2011, 12:04 AM
Eye opening thread, this one.
I always used the 'blind faith' argument in discussions about Christianity (no evolution etc etc), never knew enough about other religions to apply there.
Farout. I'm glad I'm not religious.
edit: the above comments are regarding the embedded 'this is halal' video.
Sucks that 'supermarkets' aren't stocking products we've come to expect - you know the drill. Vote with your wallet.
True. However what really grinds my gears is that although they are opting to not consume the products themselves - which is fine by me - they are trying to push their own personal agenda on everyone else by refusing to even stock the products. It's totally illogical as it will drive customers away. I don't expect that they will attract more Muslim customers - I'm willing to bet that most normal, rational Muslims shop at Coles, IGA and Woolworths like everyone else but simply skip the pork section of the fridges.
From a business point of view, what these Muslims are doing is simply asinine. You can bet your ass that even if a Jew won't eat pork, they'll sure as shit sell it.
Bottom line is that if Muslims feel hard done by due to a lack of selection of Halal foods, there's a bunch of sandy countries out there that will have exactly what they want. But of course you can never suggest that they just go back to where they came from, because it would make you an insensitive racist, now wouldn't it?
Agree about the stocking but not eating it part.
Just remember Nationalism can turn into extremism also.
e4666wa
09-03-2011, 01:40 AM
Just look at the smaller picture....the owner ain't selling pork purely because it's a sin to him. Not because of his family, community or any hidden intentions. He's only got two choices: never own a IGA in the first place or avoid selling pork.
OIL OF OLAYYYYY! AHHHH BARKKKKK!
Gladio
09-03-2011, 06:04 AM
Im sorta suprised at this also, Before when ever we used to go buy meat from the shops such as IGA,Coles,Woolies we used to skip the bacon/pork section, we don't eat it and didn't care it was there.
After a while when small butchers started opening up Halal butchers we took out business there just for the meat. It never botherd us if there was bacon/pork in the food isle of the shopping center at all.
There are ALOT of rumors about cutting of the animal but nearly all are fake, like its just the prayer is said, nothing about pointing it to the Mecca, nothing about it cant be near meat which isnt cut in the halal way.
There are bulk video's out there with animal sluaghter I can show this for example.. But im not saying that all slaughtrt houses are like this. Its just easy to find the ones who are doing it wrong
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nicecar
09-03-2011, 06:58 AM
Fuck this, next muslim bitch I see Im going to rip her head dress off and fuck her mouth with bacon wrapped around my dick while singing "allahs a faggot"
You're an idiot.
As said before, if the owner isn't selling it then go buy it elsewhere and don't give him your money.
As for the person whining about nando's being halal - when is the last time you saw anything pork related in nandos?
Dagon
09-03-2011, 07:03 AM
how its slaughtered... and no porkThis is correct - Halal is just a particular method of slaughtering all animals, and no pork allowed... Though IIRC they also can't have alcohol - does the IGA sell alcohol? Mine does, bacon as well, you got ripped off son :D
I don't think they need to face Mecca, but in all the abattoirs I've worked in, the animals are stunned first (to prevent all the muscle tensing/adrenaline shite) and then you need an authorised, accredited Muslim holy man to do the actual killing with a special knife that he has blessed before-hand.
shifted
09-03-2011, 07:48 AM
Fuck this, next muslim bitch I see Im going to rip her head dress off and fuck her mouth with bacon wrapped around my dick while singing "allahs a faggot"
So going to hell!!
Anyway - seems cruel to let it bleed out. It is disgraceful what human beings do to animals unjustly whether by religious beliefs, ignorance, or situation. (eg. chinese skinning puppies alive - wtf!)
I don't believe in religion, I don't care what religion someone else believes in, I know people from various religions. But what does piss me off, is those that impose their beliefs, preach, or force their crap onto other people. Not on.
For a shop owner who has to service the community - to single out a minority is pathetic in itself. It is one thing to be considered "a racist" for not providing, in this case, meat that is fit for consumption due to someone's beliefs, but are they not doing the same thing and contradicting themselves because now they are not providing meat due to someone else's beliefs??
Double standards much...
coFF33
09-03-2011, 08:32 AM
this thread is wack!
cant believe you cant get bacon at 2 IGA's in Perth, fair enough over east somewhere at a 7-11 or something which are owned by mussies. but ferkin hell in little p-town this shits happening LAWL!!
thats fucking funny.
Im happy i live in wogville and im not religious
Christians and Muslims are same same in my book. bunch of "push my backwards thoughts onto everyone i see"
fucking hate them pushy fucks.
some are ok though
kinda opposite to our indiginous folk, because in this case the minority ruin it for the majority :)
SimonR32
09-03-2011, 08:35 AM
I love the ignorance of religion...
If someone told me not to eat delicious Bacon or pork in the name of a god, I would eat Bacon!
Grow a brain!
RELEASE
09-03-2011, 09:00 AM
when it comes to religion debates, one can only respond with the advice from Jim Jefferies
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/end thread :D
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Ryan1080
09-03-2011, 09:28 AM
What about beef bacon???
I had some wagyu bacon the other day, was delicious! Surely that would be ok?
Skitzo
09-03-2011, 09:36 AM
Fuck, so keen4bacon now.
ryanr32
09-03-2011, 09:39 AM
Antilag.com- where bacon matters
stumps.
09-03-2011, 10:45 AM
Just had a B and E roll. So good.
mr_mike
09-03-2011, 11:18 AM
dammit i want a bacon and egg roll and all there is in my fridge is an egg
Andy!
09-03-2011, 11:30 AM
Nandos do sell bacon...
http://www.nandos.com.au/menunational.php
Sammish
09-03-2011, 11:38 AM
Thread is more interesting then I expected, I was waiting for the Sammish hates Muslims abuse but found support I like it. Some fairly intelligent comments also!!
Anahera
09-03-2011, 11:39 AM
Christians and Muslims are same same in my book. bunch of "push my backwards thoughts onto everyone i see"
fucking hate them pushy fucks.
I think you are getting confused between mormons and Christians.
Mormons are the pushy door knocking ones...
Mormons are not Christians and I've never seen a pushy Christian.
SimonR32
09-03-2011, 11:40 AM
I think you are getting confused between mormons and Christians.
Mormons are the pushy door knocking ones...
Mormons are not Christians and I've never seen a pushy Christian.
Where Christians just send missionaries to 3rd world countries to convert the underprivileged?!?
SimonR32
09-03-2011, 11:45 AM
And try and put Bibles in every single hotel room around the world...
Ryan1080
09-03-2011, 11:50 AM
I'm a christian and I don't push my shit onto others. Do what you like, I keep my business to myself, and I won't tell you that you're a worthless infidel for not following my religion and you should do this, or not do that etc.
Don't see anything wrong with christian missionaries. Christian missions are not like those muslims terrorist training camps are they. THey provide food, medication, education and so on, generally improve the standard of living for the natives in the missions.
shifted
09-03-2011, 11:51 AM
Pushy Christians? Wake up - they are everywhere. One at my work. Bible placed in every donga room I have been in, every hotel room, and shit, even had one approach me at the beach to preach! Along with him furthering his debate by continuously telling me about his trips to Africa.
All religions - same boat.
I don't care what someone follows - they are entitled to their own opinion - and I respect that view, just like I want my view on not being religious respected.
Preachers just shit me to tears. :(
Anahera
09-03-2011, 11:51 AM
Where Christians just send missionaries to 3rd world countries to convert the underprivileged?!?
That I dont agree with....
Pop corn... where's the pop corn? I can see this thread getting locked lol
Anahera
09-03-2011, 11:58 AM
I'm Catholic but not practicing. My Mum made me go to church when I was younger but now I have a choice, I dont go... I find its getting too 'cult like' now. And I dont agree with alot of things that are preached in my religion.
Having bibles in a hotel room is a bit different to people knocking on your door on a Sunday afternoon trying to convert... I dont see how that is pushy. Half the time I dont even open the draws in hotel rooms....
Skitzo
09-03-2011, 12:00 PM
Christians are generally loopers. Just watch the church videos of christians. Catholics are more sedate, but with a dodgy as hell rep.
SimonR32
09-03-2011, 12:01 PM
I'm a christian and I don't push my shit onto others. Do what you like, I keep my business to myself, and I won't tell you that you're a worthless infidel for not following my religion and you should do this, or not do that etc.
Don't see anything wrong with christian missionaries. Christian missions are not like those muslims terrorist training camps are they. THey provide food, medication, education and so on, generally improve the standard of living for the natives in the missions.
Not all Muslims will tell non Muslims they are worthless infidels either!
No they are not like Muslim terrorist training camps, but then again... No wars have ever been waged in the name of Christianity either have they?!?
-Luke-
09-03-2011, 12:01 PM
Change thread title too "Where's my bacon and why religion sucks balls!"..?
SimonR32
09-03-2011, 12:03 PM
I'm Catholic but not practicing. My Mum made me go to church when I was younger but now I have a choice, I dont go... I find its getting too 'cult like' now. And I dont agree with alot of things that are preached in my religion.
Having bibles in a hotel room is a bit different to people knocking on your door on a Sunday afternoon trying to convert... I dont see how that is pushy. Half the time I dont even open the draws in hotel rooms....
So you were atheist when you were born.... Your mum made you Catholic, now you choose not to be Catholic but still claim to be Catholic! Makes sense :)
Anahera
09-03-2011, 12:05 PM
At least im not a smart arse :)
I never said I was'nt Catholic.
Ryan1080
09-03-2011, 12:07 PM
Not all Muslims will tell non Muslims they are worthless infidels either!
I like your "not all" in regards to muslims lol. With christians, the word "none of" would be more appropriate.
No they are not like Muslim terrorist training camps, but then again... No wars have ever been waged in the name of Christianity either have they?!?
How long ago was that though? Last one was many centuries ago. THey've moved on, wisened up, and none of that shit is happening any more.
How many jihad holy wars have we had recently but?
I can't remember any christian terrorist attacks lately, can you?
:)
[Jacek]
09-03-2011, 12:07 PM
Its Simple, ignore it. See bible, dont read it. Open door to mormans, "not interested, thankyou", move on with your life. In Muslim countries when you goto a hotel there is a koran in the draw and an arrow on the ceiling telling you which way mecca is - for the simple reason of convenience. Doesnt mean you have to use it.
Use a different shop.
I'm Polish. Coles doesnt sell the meat that I like to eat, so I goto a butcher than does.
I understand what you mean though, because a reasonable person would expect to walk into any shop and be able to buy bacon (its considered a staple). But you just have to accept that this is the way the world is going these days!
Denver
09-03-2011, 12:09 PM
In one way or another, all religions are a cult of some descript, some do it by being pushy, eg forcing thier beliefs onto you when you don't want them, some do it by being pushy in a subtle way, eg bible in hotel rooms, some do it by just having you fork out lots of jard earned for them to fund, fuck knows what, eg riverview, and others just expect you to have a million wives and nail all your children then die in a burning inferno..
Im going to hell, who's coming for the ride..
Ryan1080
09-03-2011, 12:10 PM
Christians are generally loopers. Just watch the church videos of christians. Catholics are more sedate, but with a dodgy as hell rep.
You're picking on the really minor percentage of population, generally coming from hicksville america. THat's not exactly representing all of them. ANd more importantly, loopers or not, at least they keep it to themselves and not shove it in your face.
I might go to church once in a blue moon (more often when I was a kid, now i cbf'd), haven't met any loopers like that in all my life.
Anahera
09-03-2011, 12:10 PM
Change is inevitable
Autopilot
09-03-2011, 12:11 PM
Mormons are not Christians
Yes they are, The Latter Day Saints are encompassed into the religions derived from Catholicism, Which is by definition Christianity. Funny fact though is the Catholic church don't identify themselves as Christians. Either way religion is dangerous and is the most destructive force in our history. Be it Jesus, Mohammed, Buddah or any of their mates they are all charlatans that prey of the hopeless and ignorant.
http://unfollowingjesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Christianity-and-Science.jpg
and
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_QfVWU-2pVL4/Sp2h5vWdbNI/AAAAAAAAIB0/7G1ZwlIMpZ8/s1600/lego-mohammed-faelschung.jpg
Anahera
09-03-2011, 12:14 PM
Yes they are, The Latter Day Saints are encompassed into the religions derived from Catholicism, Which is by definition Christianity. Funny fact though is the Catholic church don't identify themselves as Christians. Either way religion is dangerous and is the most destructive force in our history. Be it Jesus, Mohammed, Buddah or any of their mates they are all charlatans that prey of the hopeless and ignorant.
Why Mormons Are Not Christian.
First: Mormons do not follow or believe in the historic Jesus Christ of the Bible, but rather in a difference Jesus. This is why most Biblical Christians emphatically insist that Mormons are not Christians.
Anahera
09-03-2011, 12:15 PM
cant see pictures...... stupid computer at work blocks them
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I'm Polish. Coles doesnt sell the meat that I like to eat, so I goto a butcher than does.
Good point.
Im Australian, When in Bulgaria I couldn't find real seafood - it was all fake processed shit. There was no coconut milk for curries. Orange juice was like cordial and all the produce was in freezer tubs. Yet, why complain?
I had the choice as a consumer and made it to get something else.
e4666wa
09-03-2011, 12:21 PM
Why Mormons Are Not Christian.
First: Mormons do not follow or believe in the historic Jesus Christ of the Bible, but rather in a difference Jesus. This is why most Biblical Christians emphatically insist that Mormons are not Christians.
Here come the idiots with double standards....
Anahera
09-03-2011, 12:22 PM
I think this thread is way off track now........
-Luke-
09-03-2011, 12:24 PM
My Imaginery Friend>Your Imaginery Friend
In one way or another, all religions are a cult of some descript, some do it by being pushy, eg forcing thier beliefs onto you when you don't want them, some do it by being pushy in a subtle way, eg bible in hotel rooms, some do it by just having you fork out lots of jard earned for them to fund, fuck knows what, eg riverview, and others just expect you to have a million wives and nail all your children then die in a burning inferno..
Im going to hell, who's coming for the ride..
To be technical the true definition of a 'cult' is worship/following of a man. Although when I see the reactions and adoration to Pope speeches does make me wonder.
Muslims claim to not believe in Idol worship than why bow to the East?
If your religious you are retarded and support child molestation....
GROW THE FUCK UP AND PUT THE FAIRY TALES AWAY!!!
XOXO
Anahera
09-03-2011, 12:29 PM
Here come the idiots with double standards....
There's no need to call me an idiot dude....
Brockas
09-03-2011, 01:26 PM
Make racist comments on a forum to feel better about yourself?
Muslims aren't a race.
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