GQ patrol fuel consumption

[Sharpy1991]

Just doing a bit of research on GQ patrols.

Im looking at an early 90's model as my daily/weekend toy, but dont want something that is going to suck fuel and fall apart on me. Ive done a bit of googling and some people have said they get as good as 11.5l/100kms and others saying around 20l/100kms. So some consistent results would be handy :P

any other details about generic problems and issues that they have would be appreciated also.

my budget is around $5k so i know i wont be getting anything in showroom condition.

[DanWA]

mines closer to 20 (petrol/gas/33's)

people claiming 11.5 would be extreme rare cases and definately diesel only

[Sharpy1991]

how much of a difference would the 33's make to the fuel consumption?

[Cold Fusion]

i got a 96 GQ trayback and i get about 450-500km per tank of diesel if that helps, got 32" tyres im pretty sure, i mainly use mine for work

[DISTRBD]

600ks minimum in my 4.2 pootrol with factory tank .

[KeeddleZ]

on my tb42 (pertrol) i was getting about 20L, they are definatly thirsty. thats the carby version i would say the injected is alot better. have ditch mine now as its getting converted

[South]

5k is not going to buy you a running GQ, and if it does you will be using 1L or oil to every 10L of fuel, its going to be shot.

They are going for silly money now

[Sharpy1991]

http://perth.gumtree.com.au/c-Cars-Vehicles-Motorbikes-Parts-cars-89-Nissan-GQ-Patrol-W0QQAdIdZ251318551

Obviously isn't going to be perfect but looks half decent. Would have to get it checked over pretty well by a mechanic first though

Edit* There are a fair few in that price range too

[Passage GT]

5k is not going to buy you a running GQ, and if it does you will be using 1L or oil to every 10L of fuel, its going to be shot.

They are going for silly money now

have you ever owned one?
i paid 3k for mine 2 years ago and the only problems it's been have been owner inflicted, it had a minor rear main leak which has been fixed and one from the rocker cover, it's done 312000km and is the most reliable vehicle i've owned
it's a little rough around the edges with clear coat peeling etc but mechanically it's been unbreakable
mine's a carby model and uses about 21l/100 which is about average for the tb42
the diesels are obviously better but good luck finding one for 5k

btw the one listed above, providing you check it over as you should before buying any car, would be an awesome buy, got some really nice factory and aftermarket bits on it and is a lot of car for the money, so long as the mechanicals are good and it's not too rusty you could do a hell of a lot worse

[South]

Yours is a Maverick, although the same vehicle is less desireable and has always been on the cheaper side.

Never owned one, they are becoming expensive as enthusiasts are looking for the model to highly modify, its all about demand now. Look at that one on gumtree is a petrol with nearly 400k on the clock, its not going to be a long lasting engine. $5800 for a car that old with that many km's is beyond belief.

Same as 80 series, 10k is the magic figure for them...

[DanWA]

i payed 9 for my gq... but its a ti, low k, well looked after, lift, 33's, drawer system, uhf,spotties, extractors/exhaust etc you get the hint!

all the cheap ones are not pretty, but that doesnt mean they arent reliable!

[DISTRBD]

Yours is a Maverick, although the same vehicle is less desireable and has always been on the cheaper side.

Never owned one, they are becoming expensive as enthusiasts are looking for the model to highly modify, its all about demand now. Look at that one on gumtree is a petrol with nearly 400k on the clock, its not going to be a long lasting engine. $5800 for a car that old with that many km's is beyond belief.

Same as 80 series, 10k is the magic figure for them...


8k for my GQ 2 yrs ago with 370ks on the clock , Did injectors as they were done 80ks since replacement and new clutch before we put the safari turbo kit on it and it has now done 439ks with only issue being a new starter motor 6 months ago . Dont use any oil between services , has no oil leaks , gearbox is like new

Compare that to the later GU models that pop engines , gearbox failures you can see why the old 4.2 have hold a good price :)

Few 4.2 diesles around bunno for sale from 6-9k for tidy examples

Wouldnt pay any more then 5k for a petrol shitter though regardless of condition

[Butcher]

I know of a gq wag thats being pulled apart, The diesel lump is running for inspection prior to removal. If that helps anyone here?

[South]

Yeh a TD42 is worth buying with high kms as you know its a strong motor, but a TB42 is far removed from being a strong motor with high kms. If it were a tojo FZJ with high kms then you know it will be OK as they are built strong but not as strong as the HDJ

Either way 5k budget will buy you unreliablity, if you want to play its going to cost a lot in maintenance, its the nature of 4WD's

[Passage GT]

Yeh a TD42 is worth buying with high kms as you know its a strong motor, but a TB42 is far removed from being a strong motor with high kms. If it were a tojo FZJ with high kms then you know it will be OK as they are built strong but not as strong as the HDJ

Either way 5k budget will buy you unreliablity, if you want to play its going to cost a lot in maintenance, its the nature of 4WD's

dude just stop now, please, you seriously have no idea
there is a white gq that drives around here, my uncle owned it until it did a head gasket.... at 760,000km, it's a tb42 petrol model, he got the hg done and it's still driving around with the new owner having done well over 800,000km
it's on the standard bottom end and still going strong
if you actually did a bit of research and spoke to owners you'd find they're one of the most durable petrol motors built
they do hg's when run on gas and people let them overheat, look after them properly and they'll lost longer than just about anything out there
and as someone that looks at cars constantly for sale, there's jack shit difference in prices between mavericks and patrols, most people chase the windows from a maverick because they come with solid rear windows instead of sliders, which are a known rust point
only other differences were minor trim variations
get a clue before speaking again

[Passage GT]

oh and unreliability, i've gone through one clutch where the springs in the pressure plate had literally lost their springyness, suspected it was the original clutch, it got a small crack in the original radiator which i replaced with a new unit and the air con condenser fucked up cause i filled it up with mud when i got stuck, so she's cost me 3k and apart from general maintenance that any car would require and my own fuckups, it's been cheap reliable and tough, i've done shit in that car that a near standard car shouldn't be put through and it's come through everytime without any breakages
stop giving bad advice when you know jack shit

[DTM-031]

mate bought his gq for 6k, rb30 petrol/gas... most immaculate 4wd i've ever seen. they are around

[Mad_Aussie]

Yeh a TD42 is worth buying with high kms as you know its a strong motor, but a TB42 is far removed from being a strong motor with high kms. If it were a tojo FZJ with high kms then you know it will be OK as they are built strong but not as strong as the HDJ

Either way 5k budget will buy you unreliability, if you want to play its going to cost a lot in maintenance, its the nature of 4WD's

There used to be a petrol GQ running around Port Headland that had done near on 700,000kms, as fair as I'm aware it's still going and still has the original motor and box.

Not to mention our shooting rig (although being a hilux) has around 300,000kms on it and hasn't broken after three years of abuse, and we paid $1500 for it. Low budget doesn't necessarily mean poor reliability, just have to be sensible when you're looking.

[Sharpy1991]

600ks minimum in my 4.2 pootrol with factory tank .


is that on petrol? thats pretty decent for a car with the aerodynamics of a fridge.

even if the engine was fucked, how much would it cost to get reconditioned? i know you can get a falcon 6 cylinder reconditioned for around $700. So even if the engine was shagged there is always that route.

but at the end of the day is it going to be a decent daily? i drive about 60-70kms a day and i dont really want to be spending $100 a week on fuel. being an apprentice and all.

[Mad_Aussie]

but at the end of the day is it going to be a decent daily? i drive about 60-70kms a day and i dont really want to be spending $100 a week on fuel. being an apprentice and all.

Here's one that should suit you then

http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/dealer/details.aspx?Cr=0&R=9549028&keywords=&trecs=34&__sid=12C564517186&__Ns=pCar_PriceSort_Decimal|0||pCar_RankSort_Int32 |1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&__Qpb=true&tsrc=allcarhome&__Nne=15&seot=1&__N=1216%201246%201247%201252%201282%204294962861% 204294962468%20904&silo=1011 (http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/dealer/details.aspx?Cr=0&R=9549028&keywords=&trecs=34&__sid=12C564517186&__Ns=pCar_PriceSort_Decimal|0||pCar_RankSort_Int32 |1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&__Qpb=true&tsrc=allcarhome&__Nne=15&seot=1&__N=1216%201246%201247%201252%201282%204294962861% 204294962468%20904&silo=1011)

[Sharpy1991]

ha ha ha.....



....thats out of my price range....


ive got a falcon now and i get roughly 500kms to a tank so something that i can get roughly 400+ from would be acceptable.

thanks for the constructive post though. it was really helpful

[Cold Fusion]

i was expecting my GQ to be worth more than 5K? thats ridiculous!

96 tray back GQ diesel patrol 4x4 manual, on 33" tyres (or 32") massive battery, decent stereo, new alt, just re-gasses aircon, tint, no rust on cab (some rust one the tray)

166,000 on clock (genuine)

...not that im looking to sell! but what price would that get?

[South]

dude just stop now, please, you seriously have no idea
there is a white gq that drives around here, my uncle owned it until it did a head gasket.... at 760,000km, it's a tb42 petrol model, he got the hg done and it's still driving around with the new owner having done well over 800,000km
it's on the standard bottom end and still going strong
if you actually did a bit of research and spoke to owners you'd find they're one of the most durable petrol motors built
they do hg's when run on gas and people let them overheat, look after them properly and they'll lost longer than just about anything out there
and as someone that looks at cars constantly for sale, there's jack shit difference in prices between mavericks and patrols, most people chase the windows from a maverick because they come with solid rear windows instead of sliders, which are a known rust point
only other differences were minor trim variations
get a clue before speaking again

I guess if YOU also did some research you would realise that the TB42 does not even come close to the quality and durability of the FZJ range. Mind you there are 3.8L commodore taxis around with 1 millions kms, doesnt mean its a good motor as we all know they are shit.

So putting them on gas, means they blow head gaskets, gee thats a pretty durable design if you ask me! Burning out valves might be acceptable, but doing a head gasket is beyond imagination!

Guess with your info I will go sell my Landcruiser and buy a Maverick, even though mine only needs oil and filter, by the sounds of it a Mav will last me till i die, which won't be long as I won't be able to feed myself with the fuel costs of the TB42

[Passage GT]

haha keep diggin dude

[DISTRBD]

i drive about 60-70kms a day and i dont really want to be spending $100 a week on fuel. being an apprentice and all.

Buy a Moped then :)

[South]

Well you know all, so why dont you tell us more about them, so that the OP is well informed about the purchase.

We all know the diffs/axles/cv's and lsd are pretty good, but the boxes have an average gearing and a weak 5th gear... So what else to look out for???

[Passage GT]

it was the early gu's that had the weak 5th gear, bart knows more on that issue than i, it was him that informed me of it
but you clearly have no idea so i'm gonna stop beating my head against the wall now

[DISTRBD]

Well you know all, so why dont you tell us more about them, so that the OP is well informed about the purchase.

We all know the diffs/axles/cv's and lsd are pretty good, but the boxes have an average gearing and a weak 5th gear... So what else to look out for???

First series GU had shit 5th , i think they did that to make cruiser owners feel good

[South]

Cruisers running the r151 gearbox are in the same boat, blow 5th if under too much load, we started that fashion first.

No need to keep banging your head, not making you any smarter as you've not provided any insight to why you think they are so great with your own personal experience...

[Passage GT]

actually the examples i listed before are examples of my own personal experiences, of which you have none
so umm yeah next question?
i thought for a while you were trolling but i'm certain you just don't know shit
your not the same dude that reckons people do the simpson in commodores as well were you?
i cbf looking it up

[South]

I don't have any questions, I know what I need to know about Datsuns and you have given me more reason to want to know less. Blown head gaskets due to LPG, now thats durability right there.

[Boza]

LOL 'nissans are shit, toyotas are the best' ahh me cruiser shes a weapon, patrols are shit this or ahh me 1j/2j she'll make 1000rwhp on standard internals that, you hear the same shit come out of toyota owners mouths whether 4wd or not...

People don't give a shit about what you've read on the internet or how this one guy Mervin Mippy did 1.6 million kms in his 1hz without an oil change, used salt water as coolant, had factory stage 3 trd glow plugs with double overhead foxtails & used to get 90mpg on 44" tyres...'It's true, i read it on the net!'

Fuck, the holden vs ford banter got nothin but it's hole when you listen to the amount of shit that comes out of toyota owners mouths towards datsuns...

[South]

I've got nothing against Datsuns, was going to buy a GU IV TD42t. Am also very interested in buying a GQ and fitting an LS2 and all the other fruit, it just wouldnt start as a 3k clunker though!

[2jzlux]

You do know that the hdj80 had a problem of snapping cranks in half and chewing out bearings and head cracking issues dont you?
People in glass houses (or barbeques in this case) should not throw stones.

[South]

That would be the early 1HD-T, BEBs should be checked... $5-700 to swap out, done in car...

Heads would be 1HZ (HZJ80) when turbo'd as they have a pre-combustion chamber that is not built for turbo or super charing, hence the 1HD-T...

Every manufacturer have there issues, I originally was not having a go at Nissan, rather throwing caution to the wind for a PETROL GQ with near on 400k on the clock. No driveline is going to last 400ks without reliabilty issues popping its head up, especially when you ONLY have 5k to spend of which that will be very close to the purchase price of the car to start with.

I will just keep driving my 180kw 1HD-FT...