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TJ
05-12-2010, 10:31 PM
Monday 6.12 to Sunday 6pm.

Arcade mode.

Track - Tsukuba

Car - BNR34 Skyline GTR N1 Base 06

Tyres - whatever you want to run

Legendary time attack car and track to kick things off!

Good luck!

Post your time and controller type - maybe even take a pic with your phone of the time if you think its going to be a contending time for the win

summoner
05-12-2010, 10:52 PM
in!

TJ
05-12-2010, 11:40 PM
59.136 to begin proceedings.

Jazza
05-12-2010, 11:47 PM
So stock car with whatever tyres is all that matters?
*Edit* Haven't played arcade mode before so I didn't realise you couldn't adjust anything etc, all good!

52.550, raged way too quickly and quit :lol:

Macca
06-12-2010, 12:46 AM
So stock car with whatever tyres is all that matters?
*Edit* Haven't played arcade mode before so I didn't realise you couldn't adjust anything etc, all good!

52.550, raged way too quickly and quit :lol:

You did that time with Car - BNR34 Skyline GTR N1 Base 06 ??

My time so far is 57.478 using just normal controller

Jazza
06-12-2010, 01:07 AM
Yer? That won't be the fastest time posted either bro.. it's got a 51 in it if you get the lap right. As I said I did it for awhile, raged and quit!

TC off using a G27 wheel..

YOUR MATE
06-12-2010, 02:11 AM
So fucking in. Can't wait to get home in the morning!

XsQuiZiT
06-12-2010, 02:19 AM
After 10 attempts, 54.991 with controller

53.777 with controller

Mad_Aussie
06-12-2010, 09:25 AM
I think for the really quick times, a phone/camera shot of the score screen at the end would be needed... I've only managed times near TJ's so far, but if I got a 52 on Tsukuba I'd take a photo of it!

Frenchy
06-12-2010, 10:06 AM
Best i could reel out was :
53.372
TC -Off
ABS - 1
Tires - racing soft

DFGT wheel

TJ
06-12-2010, 11:15 AM
LOL 7 seconds off the pace!

SimonR32
06-12-2010, 11:18 AM
Are some people comparing rolling starts to standing starts?

7 sec off the pace is crazy... Will have a go on Delucas on Maccas PS3 later in the week

adrenalin
06-12-2010, 11:29 AM
7 Sec is usually the average diff between rolling and from standing start

Frenchy
06-12-2010, 12:03 PM
Are some people comparing rolling starts to standing starts?

7 sec off the pace is crazy... Will have a go on Delucas on Maccas PS3 later in the week

Arcade Time trial only has rolling starts afaik, unless we are racing in a different Arcade mode?

Jazza
06-12-2010, 12:13 PM
Yer its time trial ie qualifying styles, u can't do a standing start. I can post pictures but I still don't think its the fastest time that will be set.. I might have another go at it later tonight

SimonR32
06-12-2010, 12:19 PM
Arcade Time trial only has rolling starts afaik, unless we are racing in a different Arcade mode?

Nah I have not even had a go yet at Arcade, I was just surprised by a 7sec difference in what people thought was a fast lap haha

Frenchy
06-12-2010, 12:46 PM
Jazza is right tho, a 51.xxx is definitely achievable.
Damn work will keep me from trying to beat my time :(

jaybee
06-12-2010, 01:20 PM
a 51 second lap is insanely quick, a perfect run.

low 55's is the best i can manage atm, i only just started though.

jaybee
06-12-2010, 02:07 PM
53.742 is my best so far, still a long way to go!

summoner
06-12-2010, 02:28 PM
54.619 :(

adrenalin
06-12-2010, 02:32 PM
54.433 for me with controller

Anyone else getting shitload of fucking understeer or am i entering corners to quick ?

Jazza
06-12-2010, 02:44 PM
The 3rd gear turn after the slow second gear hairpin requires a bit of a flick to shift the body weight of the car to take it at decent speed. Then the last long right hander you get some understeer but you can take quiet a few different lines through it to come out at a fairly similar pace so I don't think that one will effect your lap time too much *shrugs*

TJ
06-12-2010, 03:21 PM
If you ran again Jazza take a snap of your time with your phone - if you want mms it to me and ill upload it.

Awesome time really.

Skitzo
06-12-2010, 03:38 PM
Jazza knows cheat codes though.

Jazza
06-12-2010, 03:41 PM
Ok I'll beat it tonight and mms you the new one if its that important lol

IDDQD!!! God mode ftw

ben351
06-12-2010, 03:54 PM
puffins gonna puff hey Jazza !!

BN01
06-12-2010, 03:55 PM
I'd have thought a pic of the time would be standard procedure for a competition like this?

ED40
06-12-2010, 05:07 PM
My best so far is a 1:53.138, started to get angry so will try again tommorow. I reckon I can sneak into the 52's.. but definately not the '51's.. haha
Your a machine jazza.

jaybee
06-12-2010, 05:53 PM
wait, what? are you sure your doing the right track mate? it should be around 53 seconds in total, not 1 minute and 53 seconds.

ED40
06-12-2010, 06:02 PM
lol my bad..
52.850 now, couldn't help getting back on... damn the urge!

Jazza
06-12-2010, 06:05 PM
52.445

Honestly cbf with this track anymore, I promise you can go faster but I am going to go back to the normal mode before I pull my hair out
Here's the pic u wanted Tj

http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/5954/imag0246.jpg

[Jacek]
06-12-2010, 06:18 PM
53.373 here

Frenchy
06-12-2010, 06:21 PM
Impressive Jazza.
Arrghh hate working away, so keen to better my time :(

YOUR MATE
06-12-2010, 06:23 PM
I managed low 55's this morning after work, but I literally fell asleep playing and work up accelerating into a wall. Don't drive tired..

Will give it another go tonight before work.

upgarage
06-12-2010, 06:24 PM
Perhaps seperate comps for steering wheel and controller only?

cant get into the 52 with my controller

can only manage high 53

jaybee
06-12-2010, 06:39 PM
i can't break into the 52's either, and look at jazza's screenshot, all 52 second times. so frustrating but addictive, FUCK.

Butla
06-12-2010, 07:10 PM
53.257 my best

YOUR MATE
06-12-2010, 07:24 PM
54.732 :(

XsQuiZiT
06-12-2010, 07:36 PM
What tyres are everyone using? I'm racing soft up front and racing med rears. Let's me get a bit of a slide happening to cut corners

TJ
06-12-2010, 08:11 PM
Immediately into the low 56's - time to play with tyres to find more turn in

TJ
06-12-2010, 08:21 PM
54.289

jaybee
06-12-2010, 08:27 PM
ok, best so far is 52.738

i'll to get closer to jazza's time later or else i wont have a controller to play with.

rucker_
06-12-2010, 08:36 PM
So whens the deadline for the best time? Do we have till next weeks track?

TJ
06-12-2010, 08:47 PM
Sunday 5pm.

Then the winner picks the track and car for next monday.

sprint347
06-12-2010, 09:05 PM
59.735 on my first 'on' lap in the game :D

Gleeso
06-12-2010, 09:29 PM
Just done a couple of laps then with racing soft up front and rear and got 55.136. I know i can get a quicker time, prob change the rear wheels to allow a bit of kick as someone else said.

mitchsterbrau
06-12-2010, 09:41 PM
54.289

on par!

i kracked the 53 mark......lots of fricking around.
52.95 racing soft tyres i think. :)

i'm walking away from it now.
jazza....fuck the screenshot, pics of human-ness plz.

u sir a bot.

confuzion
06-12-2010, 09:54 PM
shxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxt !

manna_85
06-12-2010, 09:56 PM
ok first of all fuck Tsukuba haha. This was one of my fav track b4 i started this time attack.

my best is 52.749 after many attempts.

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/8596/img0259yp.jpg (http://img691.imageshack.us/i/img0259yp.jpg/)

MGR
06-12-2010, 10:10 PM
52.445

Honestly cbf with this track anymore, I promise you can go faster but I am going to go back to the normal mode before I pull my hair out

Oh... you'll be back. :p

http://i.imgur.com/yad6l.jpg

ED40
06-12-2010, 10:10 PM
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/3994/gt50.jpg

my fingers are sore :S

jaybee
06-12-2010, 10:16 PM
ffs i knew MGR would be posting a good time.

FFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

gonna give this another crack again later.

TJ
06-12-2010, 10:27 PM
Where the fuck am I going to find 2 seconds from

Skipmaster J
06-12-2010, 10:33 PM
53.9 is the best I can get out of my DFP after 10 minutes

1JZNOSHIT
06-12-2010, 10:37 PM
so MGR with 52.401 is top dog at the moment. Thats going to be tough to beat.

Fusion
06-12-2010, 10:52 PM
I'm off the pace by a bit with a 55.46*

Only issue with this that I found, if someone has a tuned/modified version of this car in GT mode and has it as a favourite car, it becomes available to use in arcade mode. I have done this with a couple of cars to use in split screen 2player mode.

03stiwrx
06-12-2010, 10:56 PM
52.640... to be continued.
my fastest entry/exit at one of the corners was by accident, clipped the grass on the outside it flicked out on me. grabbed the slide and it all went well.
there is more time to be taken for sure

xr06t
07-12-2010, 06:12 AM
mgr/jazza/ed40

controller or wheel?

im at 53.251 with the controller, soft tyres all round.

[Jacek]
07-12-2010, 10:25 AM
53.003 - 3 thousandths of a second off a 52!!

Is anyone else getting pissed off by the ghost blocking their view? I cant find a way to turn the ghost off?

Also, anyone get the "Human stopwatch" trophy while doing this? i gather its for getting a close time 3 times in a row or something?

So much rage hey..

Wrexter
07-12-2010, 10:32 AM
;750759']53.003 - 3 thousandths of a second off a 52!!

Is anyone else getting pissed off by the ghost blocking their view? I cant find a way to turn the ghost off?

Also, anyone get the "Human stopwatch" trophy while doing this? i gather its for getting a close time 3 times in a row or something?

So much rage hey..

its for getting 3 consecutive laps withing 0.01 of each other i think.

good effort.

KyeBidz
07-12-2010, 10:47 AM
Press up on the D pad to get rid of the Ghost.

[Jacek]
07-12-2010, 11:32 AM
Press up on the D pad to get rid of the Ghost.

Lifesaver.

I'll try post up a 52 for you this evening to express my gratitude :)

kirbo
07-12-2010, 11:33 AM
I love seeing this rivalry! Don't have time to play at the mo but if I do I best be >2 seconds off the pace or I'll sell the entire GT5 getup. >:)

MGR
07-12-2010, 11:46 AM
its for getting 3 consecutive laps withing 0.01 of each other i think.

good effort.

3 consecutive laps within 0.2 seconds of each other. That trophy popped up for me while doing one of the karting special challenges.

Jazza
07-12-2010, 12:49 PM
ED40 did you manage a 52.4 on your hand controller? Shit's impressive!!!
And fuuuuuuuuuuu to both you guys, I can't be bothered with this track anymore, I have a short attention span I think, oh wells I'll have another go later tonight if I have time I guess :(

Scaf
07-12-2010, 12:52 PM
My best is 55.432, well off the pace. Ill have to give it another crack tonight.

Firstround
07-12-2010, 05:38 PM
53.880 :( can't get in the swing of it my times are all over the place and I'm beating my ghost on more corners than not ... So I can see there is plenty of time to be shaved :(

ED40
07-12-2010, 06:28 PM
ED40 did you manage a 52.4 on your hand controller? Shit's impressive!!!
And fuuuuuuuuuuu to both you guys, I can't be bothered with this track anymore, I have a short attention span I think, oh wells I'll have another go later tonight if I have time I guess :(

yep controller.. but like you, get over it quick.. and get angry quick haha.
Should be a good battle to win this one! Nothing in it!

jaybee
07-12-2010, 06:32 PM
52.634 is my best (controller)

have until Sunday to lose another 3 tenths of a second but im at this point im thinking that i can't beat that. i'm also very surprised i haven't thrown my controller yet.

[Jacek]
07-12-2010, 07:40 PM
;750819']Lifesaver.

I'll try post up a 52 for you this evening to express my gratitude :)

52.982

0.031 gain from not being blocked by the ghost haha

GA70TT
07-12-2010, 08:08 PM
Dam you people are fast.....best i could do so far was 53.4 with G25 wheel

PAGZ
07-12-2010, 08:45 PM
How do you get blocked by the ghost i dont understand :/???

kirbo
07-12-2010, 10:11 PM
Blocked view I guess he means!

My best on the G27 is 53.4 no TCS Manual. Happy but know there's more in it!

[Jacek]
07-12-2010, 10:16 PM
yeah blocked view i meant, sorry

Jazza
07-12-2010, 10:17 PM
52.369
Fthistracksrsly!

jaybee
07-12-2010, 10:29 PM
Ffffffuuuujazzasrsly!

Jazza
07-12-2010, 10:31 PM
dude if your in the 52s on the hand controller that's pretty amazing as I said before!
Tj do up a leaderboard for two diff styles of controllers?

rucker_
07-12-2010, 11:22 PM
This is fucked. I cant get better than 56 with gay controller. Time to put racing chair and g25 on the bed.

MGR
08-12-2010, 12:16 AM
52.369
Fthistracksrsly!

Haha! Yeah, it's quite rage inducing. Hope this helps. :p

http://i.imgur.com/T6AOi.jpg

jaybee
08-12-2010, 12:25 AM
how consistent are your times man FUCK.

MGR, you have a wheel yeah?

Brockas
08-12-2010, 12:56 AM
Had a quick go at it, still over half a second off Jazza / MGR... will give it another shot tomorrow, think I can wipe at least 4-5 tenths off.

http://i54.tinypic.com/24nmfr6.jpg

Jazza
08-12-2010, 02:53 AM
LOL just dunno if I care anymore *sigh*

HIKARI
08-12-2010, 07:50 AM
Fuckn gay,

54.656

VRX
08-12-2010, 08:00 AM
54.401 only slightly behind the pace lol

xr06t
08-12-2010, 08:02 AM
managed a 52.983 with the controller just by changing to the chase view!

am infront of that ghost by a tenth after the first corner but cant stay out infront.

im done.

[Jacek]
08-12-2010, 08:15 AM
Would be cool to have a 10 lap battle or something at the end between the top few contenders i reckon. I know MGR would be keen

AGIT8D
08-12-2010, 09:22 AM
I beat MGR in an online race once...

/claim to fame

Miami
08-12-2010, 09:31 AM
still cant get much better than a 53.6, just using basic logitech force wheel.

Havent taken it out of auto yet, trying to learn the lines properly first - still havent figured out that final hairpin into straight into sweeper, I know I can lose abit more time there.

Be glad just to crack 52's!!

It's a pity you cant transfer someone else's ghost online - ie we could all spend the week chasing the leader's ghost.

BOKI
08-12-2010, 10:33 AM
53.063 with controller since my G25 decided to die.
I can see where I'm losing time but I can't seem to do anything about it.

jaybee
08-12-2010, 11:24 AM
im definitely losing the most time in turn 3 and also the last turn.

AGIT8D
08-12-2010, 11:32 AM
last turn is a cvnt.. it tightens so you really need to hang wide with mid throttle then you should be able to hold full power past the apex.. unfortunately the couple of times i managed to string together a great exit on the last bend the rest of my run had been a shambles.

MGR
08-12-2010, 01:17 PM
how consistent are your times man FUCK.

MGR, you have a wheel yeah?

When I loaded up last night all of my times set the previous day were still there. The list just seems to be your fastest times recorded from all sessions on that track, with that car - sorted in descending order.

And yep, I use a G25.


It's a pity you cant transfer someone else's ghost online - ie we could all spend the week chasing the leader's ghost.

GT5 Prologue had public time trials which rotated car/track every week or two. The ghosts were automatically uploaded to the server so anybody could download any of the ghost replays on the leaderboards. I'd imagine we'll get the same with an update patch sooner rather than later. Would make managing these sorts of time attack events so much better.

[Jacek]
08-12-2010, 01:18 PM
Yeah theres so much pressure when you're on a good lap to perform on that last corner. I always approach, shit myself, go too fast and understeer hard or brake too hard.

BN01
08-12-2010, 02:20 PM
Forza lets you race other peoples Ghosts................



(Disclaimer: i may be wanting to hang shit on GT5 due to slashing wrists that my wheel rig hasnt arrived yet. fml)

ED40
08-12-2010, 04:18 PM
52.353 cmon jazza get back on and beat me by another 100th again haha

Jazza
08-12-2010, 05:46 PM
*sigh* you guys suck hahahah

GA70TT
08-12-2010, 06:24 PM
lol....you gonna hate me then :p

there is still more in it, definitely a 51 in it. Plus white goes faster

http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr85/JZrob/SNC001631.jpg

Jazza
08-12-2010, 06:27 PM
Insert "I told you so" comment here

sprint347
08-12-2010, 06:39 PM
What settings are you guys using?

Second attempt using a hand controller with soft slicks and I'm in the 55's :(

monk_13
08-12-2010, 06:50 PM
Hmmmm time to start lugging the ps3 up to work...

upgarage
08-12-2010, 07:17 PM
wow
ga70tt FTW

not even gonna try and beat that time

controller or wheel?

ED40
08-12-2010, 07:29 PM
fark.. haha!!
Thats gonna be the benchmark! Well done mate!

GA70TT
08-12-2010, 07:32 PM
haha, using G25 wheel with wheel stand pro

03stiwrx
08-12-2010, 07:53 PM
Into the 51's... black goes faster!

http://members.iinet.net.au/~ryanmel/Tsukuba.JPG

TJ
08-12-2010, 08:03 PM
Wow!

TJ
08-12-2010, 08:04 PM
P.S just did a 53.541 on controller.

ED40
08-12-2010, 08:09 PM
Fuck.. i spoke too soon.
I'd love to see a video of that lap so i can see how u did it mate

03stiwrx
08-12-2010, 08:36 PM
biggest change was how i was braking.. p.s. using G27

jaybee
08-12-2010, 10:06 PM
51.7 that is quick, almost a whole second off my fastest time!

+1 would love to see a vid.

03stiwrx
08-12-2010, 10:34 PM
is there a way to find a vid of it? should i have saved a replay?

xr06t
09-12-2010, 07:13 AM
biggest change was how i was braking.. p.s. using G27

braking earlier?

Dirty32
09-12-2010, 09:14 AM
Had a couple of laps lastnight...
Best I could muster was a 53.6!

Didnt think it was that bad until I opened this thread this morning...................!

[Jacek]
09-12-2010, 09:45 AM
Still 3 days for someone to crack a 50.....

Mad_Aussie
09-12-2010, 09:55 AM
Does anyone have a real time for that car (or similar) on that track to compare with?

03stiwrx
09-12-2010, 12:34 PM
braking earlier?

less time on the brake

Tsukuba
09-12-2010, 12:48 PM
Does anyone have a real time for that car (or similar) on that track to compare with?

MINES R34 GTR does 57's around Tsukuba
But thats with Semi-slicks, not "Race Soft" tyres

The Fastest OEM Chasis car around Tsukuba is the HKS CT230R 53.589 on slicks

MGR
09-12-2010, 01:24 PM
Into the 51's... black goes faster!

http://members.iinet.net.au/~ryanmel/Tsukuba.JPG

Great time!

I'm sure I can do 51's without much more effort but not so sure I have the time or patience to do better than your lap.

sprint347
09-12-2010, 01:25 PM
Since everyone is well practiced on this track will there be a Sunday evening online race?

EVLO
09-12-2010, 01:39 PM
so, how do you know if someone is using an 800hp modded "BNR34 SKYLINE GT-R N1 base '06" for this?

I understand you can use saved garage cars in arcade mode?

TJ
09-12-2010, 01:40 PM
Well you dont really, but you would need to be a bit of a poor pingpingpingping to cheat to win a friendly comp I guess.

[FFOUR]
09-12-2010, 01:42 PM
Well you dont really, but you would need to be a bit of a poor pingpingpingping to cheat to win a friendly comp I guess.

Definitely no pingpingpingpings on Antilag!!

EVLO
09-12-2010, 01:43 PM
hahaha cause everyone on AL tells the truth... :D (or any forum for that matter)

Scaf
09-12-2010, 01:49 PM
It would be pretty disappointing if someone cheated.

Ive pretty much given up, i cant even get into the 52's let alone the 51's.
Ill give next week a crack.

xr06t
09-12-2010, 02:04 PM
less time on the brake

i found just a little earlier on the brake through the s into the hairpin and right off the brake before the corner found me 2 tenths, every little bit helps!

MMM
09-12-2010, 05:04 PM
i suck 55.7

Brockas
09-12-2010, 06:48 PM
Would be pretty easy to tell if someone was cheating, if nobody could get even close to that time.

I did another 10 laps just then (sober, which helps):

52.193
http://i55.tinypic.com/rs6dm1.jpg

AGIT8D
09-12-2010, 06:55 PM
I reckon a couple of beers helps you get your eye in, sorta like playing pool.

GA70TT
09-12-2010, 07:10 PM
last night i managed to crack the 51s with a 51.971

51.7 is epic fast......i think i can go faster but i prolly cant beat that time !!

biggest thing for me was braking late and getting straight on the gas....no half throttle through the corner...........on / off /on

found that was fastest for me

03stiwrx
09-12-2010, 08:59 PM
i actually reckon a low 51 is possible, my lap wasn't perfect, i just kept following my ghost and kept improving braking and accelerating to be later in and faster out of corners to the previous lap, got a few low to flat 52's right before i managed the 51.7 and it was the last corner I got the last 3/10ths.. but i'm back on to A Spec for now.. still waiting on a Datto 510 to come up for sale. good lap time too GA70TT...

rxsevengt
09-12-2010, 09:16 PM
Where do you find the R34 N1 base? I've checked arcade, used garage and new garage but can't seem to find one :-(
edit: found it, duuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrr
Best I could get tonight was a low 53, can definately find half a second but don't think I an get down into the low 52's

MGR
09-12-2010, 11:03 PM
http://i.imgur.com/O6cg6.jpg

TJ
09-12-2010, 11:41 PM
Nice!

1JZVL
10-12-2010, 01:34 AM
0:53.470

PS3 Controller. 1st lap out was my best lap, now I'm finding myself braking too early/too much *sigh*


Keen to use my 'wheel setup tomorrow, see if it make any difference whatsoever :(

Brockas
10-12-2010, 01:43 AM
51.2?

Oh get farked!

SimonR32
10-12-2010, 07:54 AM
Had a quick buzz last night on a mates PS3 and did a high 53

Can easily see where you could get into the 51's, one lap I was well ahead of the ghost only to put a rear wheel on the dirt half way through the last corner FML

I feel the hardest challenge is seeing out of the corners, because the screen isn't wide enough on the tight corners you almost have to predict where to pick up on the throttle.

Jazza
10-12-2010, 10:46 AM
51.2! God I don't know how you guys have the patience to keep going back, too.. much.. rage.. hahahaha

MGR
10-12-2010, 11:30 AM
I thought I had squeezed about 98% of the pace from the GTR and was managing low 52s consistently. Then 03stiwrx strolls in and posts a 51.7 and I'm thinking "FARK!" I though a 51 was possible but not a 51.7!!!! Then 03stiwrx casually claims that a low 51 is easily possible? Then I'm thinking "no fucking way! something's going on here...."

So my best lap before last night was a 52.202 - and without to much effort it's now a second faster. Why?

Because I turned 'Skid Recovery' on like the rest of you cheating pingpingpingpings obviously have.

So now when you overcook it and start to slide instead of being thrown off the road or into a spin the car generates more grip and just hooks up through the corner. So now the game rewards you for fucking up and going too quick. The whole physics engine basically goes down the toilet.

The time attack rules should have probably been more specific. Most of the so called 'driver aids' make the car easier to drive but also slower (ie TCS, ASM etc) but Skid Recovery makes it a lot easier and quicker.

So Jazza and ED40, that's how you do those times. Get the game to hold your hand and wipe your own arse. :p

mitchsterbrau
10-12-2010, 11:30 AM
MGR ftw.....good work man, that's blazing. :)

SimonR32
10-12-2010, 11:32 AM
I just had ABS on 1... Everything else was off!

I think that's fair for everyone then :)

Soul
10-12-2010, 11:38 AM
Because I turned 'Skid Recovery' on like the rest of you cheating pingpingpingpings obviously have.

The time attack rules should have probably been more specific. Most of the so called 'driver aids' make the car easier to drive but also slower (ie TCS, ASM etc) but Skid Recovery makes it a lot easier and quicker.


Exactly why I haven't been trying this anymore. I managed to get 52 flat with no aids except ABS1 (and that was pretty much a perfect lap) and I don't see myself breaking into 51s without other aids bar lucky laps. Don't really want to turn skid recovery etc on because it'll just fuck up my driving style for proper races.

Jazza
10-12-2010, 11:48 AM
I thought I had squeezed about 98% of the pace from the GTR and was managing low 52s consistently. Then 03stiwrx strolls in and posts a 51.7 and I'm thinking "FARK!" I though a 51 was possible but not a 51.7!!!! Then 03stiwrx casually claims that a low 51 is easily possible? Then I'm thinking "no fucking way! something's going on here...."

So my best lap before last night was a 52.202 - and without to much effort it's now a second faster. Why?

Because I turned 'Skid Recovery' on like the rest of you cheating pingpingpingpings obviously have.

So now when you overcook it and start to slide instead of being thrown off the road or into a spin the car generates more grip and just hooks up through the corner. So now the game rewards you for fucking up and going too quick. The whole physics engine basically goes down the toilet.

The time attack rules should have probably been more specific. Most of the so called 'driver aids' make the car easier to drive but also slower (ie TCS, ASM etc) but Skid Recovery makes it a lot easier and quicker.

So Jazza and ED40, that's how you do those times. Get the game to hold your hand and wipe your own arse. :p

Top bloke, most ppl would want to keep this to themselves because of a petty need to get any advantage they could in a mates GT5 comp lol.. I was rather confused how you could better high 51s before reading this!

On the downside now you are making me want to go back to the track and do it again.. ffs!

Brockas
10-12-2010, 11:57 AM
Ah thank god for that.

I was ripping my hair out last night trying to better a 52.19 and just couldn't see any point where I could make up significant time... never mind a whole second!

Frenchy
10-12-2010, 12:21 PM
Wouldve thought skid recovery off would be mandatory :/
I found in other normal races it slowed me down so I never use it. Might have to give it a go on some of those licenses!

HIKARI
10-12-2010, 12:46 PM
Just lost the fucking motivation to actually try harder knowing someone cheated.

Edit: Though it did not have any requisites on driving aids.

03stiwrx
10-12-2010, 12:49 PM
I thought I had squeezed about 98% of the pace from the GTR and was managing low 52s consistently. Then 03stiwrx strolls in and posts a 51.7 and I'm thinking "FARK!" I though a 51 was possible but not a 51.7!!!! Then 03stiwrx casually claims that a low 51 is easily possible? Then I'm thinking "no fucking way! something's going on here...."
I was right, you did a low 51 :)


So my best lap before last night was a 52.202 - and without to much effort it's now a second faster. Why?

Because I turned 'Skid Recovery' on like the rest of you cheating pingpingpingpings obviously have.

I checked the first few posts, nothing said you couldn't use the driver aids.


So now when you overcook it and start to slide instead of being thrown off the road or into a spin the car generates more grip and just hooks up through the corner. So now the game rewards you for fucking up and going too quick. The whole physics engine basically goes down the toilet.

The time attack rules should have probably been more specific. Most of the so called 'driver aids' make the car easier to drive but also slower (ie TCS, ASM etc) but Skid Recovery makes it a lot easier and quicker.


So it's okay to use driver aids available if they make the car slower, but not the other way around?
Like you say, clearer instructions. Free driver aid settings or all OFF and set to 0.
I'll take skid recovery off tonight and see what times I get.

jaybee
10-12-2010, 12:56 PM
ahh ok that makes sense then.

i managed 52.634 with the controller and everything off, ABS 1, and couldn't for the life of me think where you could gain 1.4 seconds - even with a wheel!!

not worth trying it with skid recovery on though, will change my throttle control too much!

jaybee
10-12-2010, 12:58 PM
i still hafta try and find half a second though :(

Soul
10-12-2010, 01:03 PM
So it's okay to use driver aids available if they make the car slower, but not the other way around?
Like you say, clearer instructions. Free driver aid settings or all OFF and set to 0.
I'll take skid recovery off tonight and see what times I get.

It's more of a general understanding as whenever we race online everything is off except for ABS. And it's obviously not realistic that you gain more grip when you're not driving properly. You're right though, it doesn't say anything about aids in the OP, probably done on purpose to cater for the newer drivers so they can still participate.

Kilma
10-12-2010, 01:03 PM
Wouldve thought skid recovery off would be mandatory :/
I found in other normal races it slowed me down so I never use it. Might have to give it a go on some of those licenses!
Yes, but you can't police it at all (ie. you can't tell if it is off, short of having the person recording the time videoing and going through the menus). Don't know about you, but I CBF doing that for the sake of some friendly competition.

At the end of the day, all driver aids are there and available. It's the way the game is made. You have the choice to use them or not. Don't like the rules? Don't play.


It's more of a general understanding as whenever we race online everything is off except for ABS. And it's obviously not realistic that you gain more grip when you're not driving properly.
Why is ABS different?

I don't like it, but I'm with 03stiwrx here. The rules were never stipulated as far as what assistances you can use. Good on him for experimenting to get the most out of the car.

In saying that, thankyou MGR for pointing it out as well. I'm a pleb and have no idea how to set up a car. Best I could do before was a 53.3 (or something). I'm off to have another go at it with Skid Recovery on to see how much faster I go.

YOUR MATE
10-12-2010, 01:40 PM
Skid Recovery can be manipulated to really boost times. That big sweeping final corner that should be topped out in 3rd you can take in 5th if you come in hot and throw out the back end a bit then come across from the outside, and throws you down the main straight with stacks more speed.

Best real lap I have managed is a 53.07. It was far from perfect but I'm happy as I've come down a long way from when I started. Using a controller.

MGR
10-12-2010, 01:42 PM
I checked the first few posts, nothing said you couldn't use the driver aids.

I'm not genuinely calling anybody a cheat for using SR because you're dead right about it not being banned in the original post/rules. It's actually my fault for assuming everybody would have those aids disabled. :)

Most of the driver aids are applied to the car itself (ie TC limiting wheelspin, ASM independantly braking each wheel to keep the car stable, ABS to keep the brakes from locking etc). All of the aids exist in real life (although things like ASM are not usually associated with race vehicles).

Skid recovery alters the laws of physics on the fly. Because of this I think SR should probably be banned for future Time Attacks.

I've saved the replay of my fastest lap each time I went faster. I think you can see the tyres used from the replay data and maybe you can see the driver aids used as well. The replays can be exported and uploaded to the web - which anybody can then download and import back into GT5 and watch on their own PS3. Too much fucking about though IMO.

Looking forward to the update patch which allows us to run custom Time Attack Leaderboards. Then we'll be able to force particular rules/aids and automatically upload fastest lap replays for others to download.

I reckon that 51.2 can be easily beaten but I probably won't bother chasing more time unless SR is banned.

ED40
10-12-2010, 01:47 PM
Ahh haha.. that makes me feel a bit better cheers MGR.
Like everyone else.. I have pretty much given up trying to beat that time because there is no way i can find another second!

Jazza
10-12-2010, 02:08 PM
Yer I personally don't like the idea of using skid recovery either, it's clearly just an easier way to go fast that's not realistic at all. But oh wells!

GA70TT
10-12-2010, 06:50 PM
yer, i was 52.2 without SR and then did 51.9 with that on and ABS on 4

next challenge, just put the it in the rules..... no aids

maybe turn ABS off :p

TJ
10-12-2010, 10:36 PM
I never mentioned drive aids as I assumed everyone would run without them - I had never used or heard of skid recovery until now.

As of next week, lets play with all aids off.

Kilma
10-12-2010, 11:00 PM
lets play with all aids off.
Marbles dislikes this.

[/old bandwagon]

Miami
11-12-2010, 12:49 PM
SR ON better better worth the best part of 2 seconds! :)

Also gonna play around with using different views, see if it makes any significant change in times.

ED40
12-12-2010, 04:35 PM
Controller
52.190

TJ
12-12-2010, 05:07 PM
LOL 51.9 without even trying with SR on.

What a joke

BOKI
12-12-2010, 05:57 PM
^ Agreed! I had a quick run with SR on and it makes a massive difference - especially on the final corner.

I managed a 52.732 with all aids off using the controller (ABS on 1)

Cake
12-12-2010, 07:34 PM
Using controller.

52.7 with SR
53.2 without SR

http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/6435/photoegz.jpg

jaybee
12-12-2010, 07:47 PM
so MGR won this week? that was a surprise

Kilma
12-12-2010, 08:09 PM
Got bored. Here's the leaderboard. Seems MGR is the one who will pick the track & car for next week.

1 MGR 51.218 Wheel
2 03stiwrx 51.703 Wheel
3 TJ 51.9 Wheel
4 GA70TT 51.971 Wheel
5 Soul 52
6 ED40 52.19 Controller
7 Brockas 52.193 Wheel
8 Jazza 52.369 Wheel
9 jaybee 52.634 Controller
10 BOKI 52.732 Controller
11 manna_85 52.749
12 Cake 52.797
13 [Jacek] 52.982
14 xr06t 52.983 Controller
15 rxsevengt 53
16 SimonR32 53
17 Crashy McCrasherton 53.07
18 Butla 53.257
19 Kilma 53.3 Wheel
20 Frenchy 53.372 Wheel
21 kirbo 53.4 Wheel
22 1JZVL 53.47 Controller
23 Dirty32 53.6
24 Miami 53.6 Wheel
25 XsQuiZiT 53.777 Controller
26 FirstroundJZS147 53.88
27 Skipmaster J 53.9
28 VRX_VRX 54.401
29 adrenalin 54.443 Controller
30 summoner 54.619
31 kccord 54.656
32 sprint347 55
33 Gleeso 55.136
34 vsclubby_678 55.432
35 Fusion 55.46
36 MMM 55.7
37 rucker_ 56 Controller
38 4SLIDE 57.478 Controller

TJ
12-12-2010, 08:12 PM
Yup MGR wins

He can create thread 2.