Olive Green S13 [shitter track spec]

[Torquen]

This is the new project car now my XR6T has been sold :(

Bought it as a rolling shell of Sam (Andy from Hyperdrives apprentice) and then ordered a gearbox and engine through Andy at Hyperdrive.

Also picked up a few goodies for it (while I was waiting for the engine and box to arive from Japan) including;
* Apexi Power FC + HC unit
* Buddyclub P1's
* Front and rear strut braces
* 1/2 Roll cage
* Fuel pump

It's currently got some fucked coilovers in it (so loud and bumpt), 3' cat back exhaust (unknow brand but quite loud and droney), non-china spec cooler + china spec piping, Boost 'T', and S14 brakes.

Andy tuned it at 10-12psi and it ran up 180HP (shit, lol!) with stock turbo/mani etc.

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Missing heaps of things like grill, interior parts etc. Speedo and brake lights don't work, cracked rear lights, fucked front bar, front lights that don't fit quite right, door dosn't shut right, you have to lock it by using the passenger door, paint is different colours (matte black & blue)... yadda yadda yadda (aka shitter boonga spec).

Pics of how I got it:

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Current plans for car is to set it up for track use. The sale of my XR6T goes through Wednesday so as soon as I have the money I will be ordering some power parts for it. Aiming for around 350HP, to do this the shopping list includes;
* Cams
* Garrett 30.76
* 6boost mani
* 850/1000cc injectors (unsure if I want to run E85)
* External waste gate with 44mm screamer

Other parts will include;
* Oil cooler
* 2way mech diff
* Slotted rotors
* New exhaust (straight through with rear cannon)
* Dump pipe

Exterior wise;
* Uras clear/tinted rear lights
* Brick headlights or clear tri-projectors
* Clear/tinted corner lights & front indicators
* GTR Grill

Anyway will update over the next few days with pics of progress!

Cheers, Jesse.

[Torquen]

First job was to sand it back and get a respray happening as to avoid cop attention (hell, id pull me over as it looked before!).
After first thinking matte white would be the go, I got convinced this was a bad (or expensive idea if done right) by the owner of Premier Auto Paints in Malaga. He suggested going a very low gloss/sheen paint. So the decission was between a pale/royal blue and olive green. Since I've never seen an olive green anything I thought Id be a little different and give it a shot :)

Paint in the tin:

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So today was day one of sanding and preping for the respray. It was way to much effort to do bay and sills so it was decided that it would be a exterior repsray only.
Once we started sanding it became apparent that the car was peiced together from random bits and pieces from different cars; blue shell, silver door, red door, white hood etc... Along with this there was a stupid amount of paint/bog that had been used for god knows what that needed to be taken off.
After resorting to using a knife to try and get it off easier we gave up for the day.

This is how is stands tonight, most of the car is ready for primer but as you can see the doors need some more work. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated as to how to get rid/make even the shitty doors???

Pics of todays progress:

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Will hopefully get onto primer tomorrow after more sanding and bogging is done!
Big thanks to Andor (Sandy) for giving me a hand with all the work :) Even if you did almost get mauled by a nasty looking spider when taking the front bumper off :p

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[kurbn]

looks like a micky mouse project!, looks like it needs lots of work but that makes it the more fun!

I would be attacking that door with a paint scraper! looks quite thick! wonder if the dry ice method would work like it does with sound deadener, it just freezes the adhesive. Apart from that a belt sander with some 40 grit should take care of it, might take a bit to bring the 40 grit back out of the shell tho..

or find a secondhand door, probably easier. You might swear and curse if you lift all that bog up and find the shell is fucked anyway.

[Torquen]

Was thinking a belt sander could do the trick :D May look into this tomorrow. As long as I took it easy when it got nearer the shell it'd probs be ok??

[lazy6]

awesome project would love to do something like this one day soon.

[DanWA]

flap discs work good

[Sandy]

Bangn I was using a paint scrapper, but I could only get a bit off. I think tomorrow we'll get some really rough sand paper and see how much we can get off.

By the way, Nice car Jesse!

[Jizz-Lebrity]

Nice car Jesse!

[Torquen]

Wish mine was another matte black S13 Andor :p xox

[Lump]

quite like the colour choice & if you have any left over you can touch up the shed :P

[Torquen]

Funnily enough my back shed is a very similar colour... and the bathroom, lol!

Edit: and judging by the photo, so is the front shed! I'm ever so attentive sometimes :p

[Torquen]

Day 2 of prep. Finally managed to get the rear bumper off, and finish sanding on most surfaces. The doors required heavy use of a belt sander with 40grit paper :p pingpingpingping of a job. Started to attempt bogging the dents in the hood, door, and aerial hole. Kinda ran out of time so only one rough bog was done on each, and they're yet to be sanded back.
Without further ado, pictures:

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[Cochee]

Good to see your getting on with it straight away.

Gotta love the BuddyClubs.

[mr_mike]

why are you removing all the bog only to go and fill the dents with bog again? Its alot of work specially for a track car.
Ur respraying the car get some 2nd hand straight doors would be best option can pick them up cheap as chips and silvias are piece of piss to pull apart and swap panels.
DONT USE A BELT SANDER they are not intended for thin car panels your on the right track to fuck shit up if u continue using one.
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^^^^^ try to avoid this, again ur making extra work for urself. Try to spread the bog on as smooth and flat as you can. You almost want to press the bog into the dent then just lightly skim over the area surrounding the dent if u get what i mean. Bog is harder than paint so when u start sanding it down the paint around the bog patch is going to sand down quicker than the bog leaving you with low sections on either side of the repair and you then need to skim more bog over a larger area again. Wipe the bog in and try to taper off around the edges.
Dont try to fill the dent in one go, a large dent could take 5 or 6 skims of bog before it fills level.
BOG DOESNT STICK TO PAINT hence why you could peel it of ur door with a knife, you should be sanding the damaged area and anywhere u are putting bog back to bare metal.
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remove door trim and you can get to 2 10mm bolts that hold door handle in, undo clip on latch rod (its either green, yellow, pink or white i cant remember) and door handle will lift out.
remove plastic triangle trim behind wing mirror and u will c 3 10mm bolts this will then let u take the mirror off.
Undo philips head screw at back top edge of door inside, you should be able to work the window mould off then. make sure window is down first.
single philips head screw at base then you can unclip the B pillar plastic mould
remove the rubber running up the A pillar and across the top of the door opening and yo u will c a series of philips head screws. Undo these then you can remove the mould running up the A pillar and along the top of the door opening.

[Torquen]

:) Champion! Cheers for the help. I'm off to Bali tomorrow morn so no more will get done before then, but will think about sourcing two new doors when I get back, as you said it may be easier.

I know you're a spray painter... might hit you up to do the colour for me once i've preped it all if you're keen for a small cashie job?

[SimonR32]

Just noticed the dyno graph...

What the hell is with peak power at 4750?

[Torquen]

NFI ai?? Maybe shitty stock turbo running outa puff?

[Dirty32]

Looks like your better off with 2 new doors mate...
Good little project car tho!

[Splat_man]

Love the dedication going into this project. :) You planning a 5 stud conversaion or keeping it as 4 studs?

[Torquen]

Cheers mate! Will be keeping it 4 stud as I already bought the P1's, tbh i'm not all that bothered as it will be mainly for performance rather than looks (i.e. 5 stud rim selections better).

[Pav]

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The only way to do prep work; beer in one hand, sand paper in the other.

[Sandy]

Haha, that's how we roll.

[Frankie-gtir]

lookin good man, why not put some forgies in there, a decent head gasket with a good set off main and rod bearings all held together with ARP main bolts.

i can see this going bang in no time with bigger turbo and gate etc etc.....

just out of curiosity, you english ?

[Torquen]

Might look at getting some good gear in it when the power starts ramping up.
Had a look on the Tomei website, so much shit to spend my $$$ on;
- Cams
- Valvesprings
- Rockerarms
- Bolts
- Pistons
- Cranks ...the list is never ending.

I'll be sure to discuss all this with Andy before I build the engine.

My mum's English, but has lived here for 30 years.

[Frankie-gtir]

Might look at getting some good gear in it when the power starts ramping up.
Had a look on the Tomei website, so much shit to spend my $$$ on;
- Cams
- Valvesprings
- Rockerarms
- Bolts
- Pistons
- Cranks ...the list is never ending.

I'll be sure to discuss all this with Andy before I build the engine.

My mum's English, but has lived here for 30 years.

ive popped the sr20 in my gtir and replaced it with all good quality stuff so i just thought i'd try save you the hassle... believe me it is a pain to work on, but mind you mine is the opposite way round and tightly packed into a little hatch...

the reason i asked if you were English is your use of the word "bumper" instead of the australia term "bar".... im english you see. ha

[Torquen]

Small update. Sourced a new (second hand) front bumper and grill thanks to Mr. Mayhem :) Which will be getting sanded back today. The car has had all bare metal spots covered in primer and is just waiting for its first full coat of primer. Hopefully will get around to it this week.

Also made a few small purchases when I duck into see Andy at Hyperdirve this arvo...
GT35
6Boost
External gate + screamer
All new piping
AFM
Racing Logic coilovers
X-Force exhaust
2way mech diff
1200cc Injectors

The car will be tuned just on E85 so hopefully will be pushing 380hp without going crazy on the boost.
All this should be done just after new years :D Can't wait!

[Mad_Aussie]

Not fucking around... Very cool!

[180SXTCY]

35r will spit out 380 on a sr20 very easily lol

[Skitzo]

Will be nice and responsive.

[Torquen]

Yeah should see 380 with very little effort on E85. Not doing cams yet as they will be done when the engine gets built. No point opening it up twice.
Will run this for the shortest time possible, as soon as funds allow a built engine then that's what shall happen!
Once the engine's built will push for 420+hp but unitll then I'm more than happy to run around with around the 380 mark on a lower/safer boost tune.

[carlos spicy wener]

Yeah should see 380 with very little effort on E85. Not doing cams yet as they will be done when the engine gets built. No point opening it up twice.


lol its not a V8

these jap cars run over head cams remember, you can swap in some new cams in a couple of hours if you know what you are doing. aftermarket cams will improve the performance hugely, so its best to get them in asap.

if you PM titmeat, he has a few s13 doors from a type x for sale i beleive.

[Skitzo]

Cams will help your mid range, so i would get them when the 35R goes on. It's going to be laggy, so they will help.

[Torquen]

5.5k should see full boost, so yeah it will be quite laggy :(

[Skitzo]

Should of gone 3076. Oh well. Maybe next time haha.

[Lump]

what size hotside?

[AGIT8D]

+1 on the cams getting the motor breathing. I wouldn't have thought it would make 380 without them, except for the helping hand of jungle juice.

[Ben Wha]

Trade the 35r for a 3071r. That will see 400hp and a little bit more response with the SR.

[Torquen]

I think it's a .6vband rear housing, but i've got to double check.
Yeah Dan, without the jungle juice it may struggled to make 380 without cams.

[Torquen]

First coat of primer on.

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Just did it in the carport since it was only the first coat. It's to fucking windy to do any colour spraying in there so will have to try think of another location to spray the colour??

[AGIT8D]

Hire a booth and do it in there.

[kurbn]

you can hire a booth?

good to see this car coming along so fast!

[mr_mike]

you can hire a booth?



Urban myth

[carlos spicy wener]

Urban myth

wrong.

there is a place in freo that does it, costs just over $100 per day. i forget the name of the place though.

they have hoists available for hire too.

[duste]

wrong.

there is a place in freo that does it, costs just over $100 per day. i forget the name of the place though.

they have hoists available for hire too.

Remember the name of the plaaaccceeeee! *shakes fist*

[carlos spicy wener]

lol i will try to remember. im googling for it now.

i was going to use it myself, but then i was kindly offered a garage to spray my car.

[Chase_d]

Go buy one of them gazebos with enclosed sides. Should be a bit tight with an S13 but if you may able to just do it. The MR2 fitted in one of those fine.

Alternatively I have seen those portable garages tent things. Except they are a bit dear for just a once of use.

[Torquen]

I'd happily hire a booth if you can remember the name of the place :)

[mr_mike]

wrong.

there is a place in freo that does it, costs just over $100 per day. i forget the name of the place though.

they have hoists available for hire too.

typical answer when ever booth hire is mentioned, "a mate knows a place", "there is a place that advertises in the quokka"

Yet no one is ever able to give a definate "place" name or contact number

[mr_mike]

I'd happily hire a booth if you can remember the name of the place :)

wait for a calm day, hang some tarps or plastic sheeting around your carport the static alone from plastic sheeting will catch alot of overspray, give the area a good sweeping then hose the concrete down so its wet but not big puddles.
The water will help catch the overspray and stop dust from flying about. Just have to be mindful of water splashing up from the heel of ur shoes as you walk about or of the air hose if it gets caught on something and u try flick it loose.

[AGIT8D]

There's a commercial unit a few down from Metalcraft that has a booth in it. I believe it is vacant at the moment, don't see why the landlord wouldn't lease it daily for a paint job while it's sitting there doing nothing :)

[SimonR32]

Keen to see how the respray comes up :)

Tipping that turbo wont last long, too big!

[Torquen]

Yeah I was caught between going the 30.76 or 35R. In the end had a long chat to Andy and decided the 35 was the go as it left more options for more power. I also was weighing up what i'll be doing most (as in motor sport) and I think most of my time will be spent at Barbs as apossed to RAC days, Collie and Speed dome. This meant that the 35 had a clear advantage over the 30.76 on the larger track as it could really come into its own. If I had planned to do more small course work I would have deffs gone the 30.76 as it would have been a lot more responsive. Andy also uses the 35R on his 180sx race car, he says he's only of boost on the very top corner coming into the straight on the short track. He also the has set some smoking quick lap times, so the set up is capable... just gotta learn to drive it well :)

Thanks Dan and Mr Mike for the help, i'll try waiting for a real still day and giving it shot in the car port... if it turns out shit then i'll look at contacting where Dan suggested. As it is i'll be happy as long as there is no HUGE imperfections in it, at the end of the day it's a track car.

Since I'm working over uni break atm I have made a few more purchases last night!
*Uras crystal rear lights
*Clear front corner lights
*Clear front indicators
*Brick style head lights (Cheers Jaybee)
*Spare gearbox (as my one is a little noisey, also thanks Jaybee).

Will get another few coats of primer happening this arvo.

[Sandy]

Looks good Jesse! Did you use my compressor or yours? Was the paint gun alright?

[Sandy]

Used your compressor, was a pingpingpingping of a thing to try A) get out of your garage, and B) lift onto the back of the work ute by myself! It's fucking heavy ai.
The van wouldn't start so had to tow that back to be able to move your brothers car to get to the compressor! Ahh well, done now.
Paint gun was OK, but cos it's not gravity fed you have to have the preasure up to high and you get a lot of 'bounce back'. It's OK for primer but I think the final coat may look shitty... we shall see.
2nd coat of primer went on this arvo anyway.

Edit: Just realised I'm on your account that you left logged in.

[mr_mike]

sounds like the gun needs a good clean as usually u spray with lower pressure on a suction feed gun.
primer wasnt to thick? Has right sized tip for spraying primer?

[jaybee]

yeah sounds like it needs a decent clean. run thinners through it and then block the needle off (where the paint comes out) with your finger and a rag, and it will blow any big shit back into the pot, then pull it apart and give it a good clean with some stiff brushes.

[Torquen]

Hmmm, righto well i'll give it all a good clean out tomorrow before the last coat of primer goes on.
Thanks lads :)

[Sandy]

There are another 2 different guns next to where the compressor was. Give them a crack if you want.

[Torquen]

Yeah I've tried two guns so far, one was better than the other.

Bought a GTR grill for it today. Shitty fiberglass quality with heaps of cracks (not any more :) ...thanks to an hours painfull work!). Only issue still is that there are no mounting tabs/brackets on the grill?? Thinking it may by DIY drill job to creat some mounting points, or go drifter spec and use ye olde zipties.
Anyone had a similar issue?
Also since I'm painting shit atm, I can't decide if the grill should be body colour or black. I'm leaving the plastic inserts near the front indicator lights black... so was thinking black would look OK. Again ideas/thoughts people?

[Lump]

black

[Torquen]

3rd a final coat of primer went on this arvo'. Think I'm going to back out of painting the colour coat in my car port. Just have a feeling it's going to turn out shitty, due to my poor spraying skills, excessive wind, and bits/dust.

Primed the GTR today and the poor fiberglass quality still is evident... so I have ordered a carbon fiber GTR grill from the USA with proper mounting tabs :)
Also purchased a new shifter/CD surround as the car didn't come with one.

[Sandy]

Link to site where you ordered the CD surround?

[Torquen]

Ebay mate :) Cost me $70.

[Torquen]

Well....... I got to impatient and wanted my car painted already ;) So got home from work today and it was kinda stillish so went to town on it. Looks pretty shit as the gun decided to spit chunks of paint at some points :( But considering what i was working woth and what little skill I have, it's OK (but still shit!). Will post pics soon as I have the masking off.

...could of done the shed while i was there, mixed almost the same colour as it :p hahaha.

[jaybee]

it's windy as fuck here man! haha, im sure it woulda turned out ok. in the next couple of days while the paint is still softish give it a rub back with really fine grade wet n dry (but rub it back wet of course) and give it a good buff and she should come up good :)

[Torquen]

Just got the car back together! What a fucking mission of a day. Making alterations to the front bar with a jigsaw in the dark is a challenge :p
Installed the GTR grill (the new one, not the shitty one I had) and the brick style lights. All in all I'm pretty happy with how it turned out considering I've never attempted anything like this before.
With out further delay... pics!!! (shitty mobile phone spec, i'll get some better one's happening tomorrow morn).

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I think I need stickers/fake plates made up [THE SHED] :p

[Gladio]

Looking good :)

[SimonR32]

Not too bad by the looks, mind you seen better pics of my penis :P haha

[kurbn]

looks great!

now please paint the lower half of the car in grey and I will marry you.

are you putting clear on it?

[Marti]

that looks awsome bro, well done

[Torquen]

Cheers for the kind words :)
It's 2Pack paint so no clear coat needed.

I just realised today when I went to put the number plates on I fucked up. Didn't conect the number plate light up before I bolted the rear bumper in :( I'm pretty sure I gotta take it of again to do it unless someone knows a way??

[mitchsterbrau]

colour is a bit different, definitely looks good.
great work. :D

[jaybee]

Cheers for the kind words :)
It's 2Pack paint so no clear coat needed.

I just realised today when I went to put the number plates on I fucked up. Didn't conect the number plate light up before I bolted the rear bumper in :( I'm pretty sure I gotta take it of again to do it unless someone knows a way??

yeah you will hafta take it off, you might be able to squeeze your hand in from the bottom, but rather then take 20 minutes fucking round might as well just take it off!

[Sandy]

It looks good (in these photos), but is it just me or is that GTR grill bent?

Also why did the gun spit out paint randomly? Did you use the water catch can? Did you mix the paint properly?

[Torquen]

Yeah the GTR grill is a touch off, but it's better than the other one :(
Yeah used the water catch can, and mixed paint properly. Im thinking it could have been residue from a previous mix that was still in the can. I tried cleaning it all out but some wouldn't come off.

[Torquen]

Continued my flurry of purchases for the shitter... bought myself some fiberglass interior door cards, new carbon fiber shifter (mine has the wrong thread), boss kit and suede drift steering wheel, fire extinguisher, drift button, and a pair of black BRIDE VIOS LOW MAX fixed back bucket seats :)

[Phyber]

Keen 2 whore

[Torquen]

Finally got around to taking some better reso pics.
Also bought a Longacre Raceing switch board [Ignition/Start/Aux1/Aux2]. Decided to install it where the radio usually sits. Took a good 4 hours of getting measurements and templates right but it's now done. Used MDF board as a backing plate, then bolted the switch boared to a thicker bit of MDF and used dowel spacers on the rear to keep it firmly sitting against the backing plate. Primed and painted the MDF at the front black to keep it looking stock(ish). Will post some pics of the actual set up when I need to take it apart again. It's not wired up yet, so that's the next job.
Anyway...pics! :)

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[TJ]

I reckon grey wheels would set it off better than the white.

Asides from that, nicely done

[Torquen]

Cheers TJ! Also agreed, a light grey would go well with the pale green. Might look into it when I have the engine as I want it. Wheel have some chronic curb rash from the previous owner which I awouldn't mind getting fixed while I'm there too.

[Phyber]

Straighten up that bonnet!

Paint looks pretty good though man, from here at least :) Especially for a track spec!

[Torquen]

Lol, Steve! I don't think I've ever seen a perfectly straight bonnet on an S13 before :( Mine's worse than most though. Paint looks better in pics than in person, but as you said for what it's designed for (track use) it will do just fine.

[Phyber]

I can't talk with my saggy Falcon front bar anyway :) Maybe use the gap for CAI, heh.

[kurbn]

tried winding up the rubber bumper on the top rad support to raise the passenger side up? or winding the drivers side down.

[Torquen]

?? I'm confused? lol, sorry.

[Phyber]

Those rubber stoppers that the bonnet hits against, would be near the front corners either attached to the bonnet or the chassis, that'd solve it quick smart! Twist to unscrew/raise etc.

[Torquen]

Shall have a looksie :) Cheers lads!

Another little update, mail main brought me my MOMO wheel and Boss kit today :) as well as my crystal tail lights! Sha-weeeet.

Wheel on:
http://i546.photobucket.com/albums/hh406/jshakersgmailcom/Image0304.jpg

Lights:
http://i546.photobucket.com/albums/hh406/jshakersgmailcom/Image0305-1.jpg

[Sandy]

Looks good Jesse!!

[Torquen]

Ok little update! Dropped into Hyperdrive today to see the process on the GT35R setup... :D Almost done, should be tuned Tuesday or Wednesday this week! Fuck yes. One quick pic on my shitty Nokia phone as a teaser. Can't wait to pick her up and give her a bootfull of E85 fueled goodness!
More pics up asap!

http://i546.photobucket.com/albums/hh406/jshakersgmailcom/Image0314.jpg

[Drift_R32]

fuk yes.. that will definately turn one

[tkb]

Nice track car ya got there!! Hopefully get to see it in action one day...

[_oz]

that thing is gonna be a handful man, your going to have a LOT of fun :)

[Torquen]

Yeah that's what a number of people have said to me :p Sam (apprentice mech @ Hyperdrive) is running the same setup + cams (but tuned on 98ron) running 375rwhp and he said 1st is a joke, frys 2nd and it peals nearly all of 3rd :D

[31-EVO]

Wow man, that has come a long way fairly quickly well done. What did the momo wheel set you back if you don't mind me asking.

[Torquen]

Cheers :)
Ahh the 'genuine' MOMO ( ;) ) wheel was bought for the bargin price of $80!
It's just a non branded drift wheel with a MOMO center as the one that came with it didn't fit right.

[31-EVO]

Ahh right, thought I might of been onto a winner. Looks great but man, hope it all goes well when you get it back .

[_oz]

you should be able to pull around 450 without too much trouble on E85 but andys dyno reads low so maybe 420 or depending on boost obviously- its a stock motor yeah?

[zeroyon]

Saw this today @ hyperdrive.

Thats one very nice fuel setup you have there !

[Torquen]

you should be able to pull around 450 without too much trouble on E85 but andys dyno reads low so maybe 420 or depending on boost obviously- its a stock motor yeah?

Yeah could do with 21-23psi of boost but don't want to run that much on a stock motor. It also doesn't have cams yet (saving for 272's) so it's kinda struggling in that department. Chatting with Andy, he reckons we'll try run about 17-18psi (17psi is minumum possible boost with that setup) and just chalk up a cool 350rwhp to start with. It will be a very safe tune (even safer since I'm using E85) and will give me a chance to get used to the car. Once I've saved a little coin I will look at a built motor + cams + more boost, hopefully achieveing around 450rwhp. Just don't want to push the stock motor to much, asking for trouble IMO.


Saw this today @ hyperdrive.

Thats one very nice fuel setup you have there !

Thanks mate! Sam's done a real good job with it, if I want to run surge tanks/fuel cells and the like in the future it should be an easy job. Do it right once, always easier in the end.

[_oz]

Sounds good man, best of luck!

[Torquen]

Car is now running :) Not tuned yet but the engine's alive an well!
While the 13 was at Hyperdrive I had Andy make me up a new exhaust system (as the other was shit)... 3' single, splitting into 2 x 2.5' each with a hotdog, no cats, no mufflers :D Looks fucking awesome!
Also had Nismo 2way put in with new suspension arms, and pineapples.

There was a few (and I mean sweet FA) flecks of metal in the oil when it was drained so to avoid all chance of a big end failure I'm having a race spec kit go in before it's tuned. Should still be ready Friday this week, I'm counting down the days!

[Alt_F4]

Nice to see someone come at a project like this with a bit of cash to get it done right first time round (without spending megabucks).

Keen to see how this pans out :)

[Phyber]

Awesome news Jesse! It's track bound right?

[Torquen]

Thanks Steve, yeah it's been designed/built for track use but it still is rego'd.

[Phyber]

Welcome to attend xr6t cruise at the end of the month, I just made the map up :)

If you're lucky it'll get a sticker and be officially track only! heh.

[siamak]

I can't wait to see the power figure and the dyno graph!

[180SXTCY]

hey mate project has come along bloody fast and looks good.

just a quick question, i didn't see it written anywhere, but does the engine have sticks in it?

[Torquen]

Thanks, and nope it does not have 'em.

[180SXTCY]

dude the 35r is gonna be blowing up against a wall ey.

id highly recommend u put cams in here before dyno.

[Dalspec]

+1
Would make a massive difference. Even cheap baby poncams would help.



dude the 35r is gonna be blowing up against a wall ey.

id highly recommend u put cams in here before dyno.

[Skitzo]

I said this on page 1 haha.

[180SXTCY]

needs 264's at a min for the 35r otherwise its like blowing through a straw.

[Turbo2.6L]

Get the wallet out Jesse & build a 2.2L for it with biiiiigggg duration cams :D

[mr_mike]

or build a 2.3 then sell for $24k!!! ;)

[Skitzo]

or go 3076

[180SXTCY]

go 91mm crank, 90mm pistons will net u around 2.35 liters!

:D

[AGIT8D]

Buy my car and do engine swap.. Will net around 6.7L but won't make any power, just heaps of noise.

[esky]

Cummins diesel. Massive cubes for low down response, will sound the same as is. Full sleeper.

[Phyber]

LOL! Glad someone finally gave some proper advice!





Burnouts!

[Torquen]

Want to keep the car under 2L as eventually will race in under 2000cc class. Also didn't want to buy poncams only to have to upgrade to pro cams (big lift/duration) very soon. I'm real low on $$$ so it will have to do for the momment. I know it's not ideal but it'l be OK for a little while untill I have funs to buy cams and other forged parts.

[Dalspec]

Indeed you did!

And Torquen still hasn't got 'em! :)


I said this on page 1 haha.

[Dalspec]

Fair call.

And JD's right - big sticks are required. Then with big duration and lift comes springs et al!


Want to keep the car under 2L as eventually will race in under 2000cc class. Also didn't want to buy poncams only to have to upgrade to pro cams (big lift/duration) very soon. I'm real low on $$$ so it will have to do for the momment. I know it's not ideal but it'l be OK for a little while untill I have funs to buy cams and other forged parts.

[Torquen]

It will all be done as soon as I have the $$$... being at uni full time doesn't help the lack of money situation :( Ahh well it is a project car after all.

[mitchy]

go 91mm crank, 90mm pistons will net u around 2.35 liters!

:D

2.315 :p


Buy my car and do engine swap.. Will net around 6.7L but won't make any power, just heaps of noise.

enough power to slip the clutch. :p

[180SXTCY]

jwt even to a 93/4 mm crank if u want get huge displacement :P

[Sam_]

Yeah that's what a number of people have said to me :p Sam (apprentice mech @ Hyperdrive) is running the same setup + cams (but tuned on 98ron) running 375rwhp and he said 1st is a joke, frys 2nd and it peals nearly all of 3rd :D


Who you calling an apprentice

[Torquen]

Just got the car home from Hyperdrive :)
Made 354.0rwhp on 18psi. Cams are clearly holding it back, but we new that was going to be the case. The 0.63 rear housing brings the boost on fairly early still so it's not a huge lag monster. Havn't really had a chance to give it some real stick yet but it feels strong and gate/'zaust is FUCKING LOUD :D

Graph:
http://i546.photobucket.com/albums/hh406/jshakersgmailcom/ScanImage001.jpg

[Torquen]

Who you calling an apprentice

You for 2 more days! :p

[Phyber]

Numbers are getting bigger man!

[zeroyon]

Very nice, holds good power still at 7000rpm even without the cams !

[Torquen]

Some pics of engine bay and fuel system :)

http://i546.photobucket.com/albums/hh406/jshakersgmailcom/DSC01493.jpg

http://i546.photobucket.com/albums/hh406/jshakersgmailcom/DSC01495.jpg

http://i546.photobucket.com/albums/hh406/jshakersgmailcom/DSC01494.jpg

[zeroyon]

Very neat !

Just needs someone to wash the bay now .... haha

[180SXTCY]

+1 on washing the bay would make a huge difference.

Decent power mate!

[DBLDOSE]

Looking good. Only thing I would change is the purpo/yellow colour scheme you got going there haha

[31-EVO]

Fack yeah man, that is excellent power minus cams even.
I forgot the little john deere engine could pack a punch lke that with some decent support. I like the paint scheme on the rocker cover, and the oil filler cap is a rad touch, well done man.

[Torquen]

The purple/yellow rocker cover is a bit of a plug for Hyperdrive. Andy's car has the same colour scheme. When I get the car painted properly (some time down the track) I may look at going a dark purple (midnight purple) to match.

*Oww and yeah, engine degrease/wash is deffs on the cards early next week.

[lambchops]

coming along nicely man! what type of track work are you going to do? havnt read the whole thread haha

[_oz]

very nice :D

[Torquen]

Couple more pics of exhaust and rear end.

http://i546.photobucket.com/albums/hh406/jshakersgmailcom/DSC01498.jpg

http://i546.photobucket.com/albums/hh406/jshakersgmailcom/DSC01497.jpg

http://i546.photobucket.com/albums/hh406/jshakersgmailcom/DSC01496.jpg

[Torquen]

coming along nicely man! what type of track work are you going to do? havnt read the whole thread haha

Just going to start with tuning days/no limits nights. Then once I feel more comfortable with the car I want to race it in <2000cc class... but that's some time away yet.


very nice :D

Cheers!

[Daisy]

was this run on e85 or just pump gas to start off with?

[Torquen]

Was running pump gas before the new turbo setup went in.
Tank was drained dry, then refilled with straight E85 before it was started with the new setup. Tuned only on E85.
Considered running E42.5 but for the cost difference (fuck all) it was just easier to run it unmixed.

[Sfidz]

cleaaaan yourrr bumper!
However I do like your rocker cover!
Nice ride dude.

[SimonR32]

If you get the Black mark off your bumper now it will never come back because E85 runs so clean :)

[1cut808]

She's come up a treat... Looks trick... Just needs some camo patches ;P

[Phyber]

I'd go with the 11111 plates for track events :) I'm liking the twin pipe exhaust as well, bit different to most after market items I see.

[Gladio]

She be a wepon matey!

[Torquen]

If you get the Black mark off your bumper now it will never come back because E85 runs so clean :)

Will get onto that also... doesn't help I'm lazy as fuck when it comes to shit like that.


I'd go with the 11111 plates for track events :) I'm liking the twin pipe exhaust as well, bit different to most after market items I see.

Cheers Steve. I've got JDM plates to use for track days and the like. :)

[streatracer]

2.0 with GT35 and no cams and still makes full boost by 4500?! awesome!

[Lonewolf]

E85 must help a fair bit with the spool, bulk timing to wind in off boost?

[jaybee]

e85 is partly a factor, but also standard cams would help with response but restrict power/torque. higher duration cams would increase power/torque but also increase lag.

[Torquen]

The small rear housing is the main reason why I have full boost so early. Andy was originally going to use a 0.8 rear housing, but decided to opt for the 0.63 as it would be more responsive. I may swap to the larger housing later if it struggles to make 450HP, but even with the small housing it should chalk up that pretty easy with the appropriate supporting mods.

The car badly needs a larger radiator and some air ducts made to get more air into the engine bay.

[SimonR32]

E85 must help a fair bit with the spool, bulk timing to wind in off boost?

Nah pretty much none at all, only helps with power on boost

[Turbo2.6L]

Did you go to No Limits last night Jesse?
If so, how'd you go??

[inks]

so will i be spotting this in the uni carpark this coming semester?
a huge change from the xr6t...

[Sandy]

Did you go to No Limits last night Jesse?
If so, how'd you go??

Jesse and I both went to barbs too watch but didn't have a run. Haven't organized cams license yet.


so will i be spotting this in the uni carpark this coming semester?
a huge change from the xr6t...

More likely to spot his boonga camry daily!

[Torquen]

As above ^^^^ :)

Trying to get to the Feb No Limits night.

[Torquen]

Though id update the thread with a full parts/spec list.

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Car:
1988 CA18 S13 Nissan Silvia non-sunroof.

Engine:
- Redtop SR20 with 'Hyperdrive themed' yellow/purple painted rocker cover.
- 1200lb injectors.
- Custom fuel rail.
- Garrett 35R turbo (0.63 rear housing).
- 6Boost manifold.
- Custom heat shroud.
- Japanese brand intercooler + piping.
- Z32 AFM.
- Tial 44mm external gate + screamer.
- Custom oil catch can.
- K&N pod filter.
- High Octane Racing air diffuser.
- Tomei vented spark plug cover.
- Manual boost 'T'.

ECU:
- Apexi Power FC + hand controller (non D-Jetro).

Exhaust:
- Custom made straight through heat wrapped 3' pipe splitting into 3' twin pipes at the rear with hotdogs. No cat, no mufflers.

Fuel:
- Wallbro intank fuel pump.
- Custom fuel feeder system in engine bay.

Driveline:
- Nismo 2way mech diff.
- Exedy heavy duty puck 5 clutch.
- S14 N/A gear box.

Chassis:
- Cusco 1/2 roll cage.
- Cusco front swaybar.
- Cusco rear swaybar.

Suspension:
- Greddy Type-S coilovers.
- Drift pineapples.

Brakes:
- S14 brakes front.
- Stock rear brakes.

Wheels + Tyres:
- Buddy Club P1 light weight racing rims. Front = 4H114.3 17x8 +32, Rear = 4H114.3 17x9 +37.
- Bridgestone Potenza RE555's.

Interior:
- Removed rear seats.
- Removed carpet.
- Removed Aircon.
- 2 x Bride Vios III Low Max fixed back bucket seats.
- MOMO suede drift steering wheel with BOSS adapter.
- 1.25kg fire extinguisher.
- Carbon fiber shifter.
- Longacre racing switch board.
- Tripod middle A/C guage holder.
- Fiberglass door cards.
- Drift button.

Exterior:
- Square headlights (non-projector type) ----> [[][]] [[][]]
- Uras crystal front bar indicators.
- Uras crystal front indicators/park lights.
- Uras crystal rear lights.
- Custom 'Olive/Shed green' paint.
- Jap number plates.
- GTR fiberglass front grill.
- Rear wing removed and holes welded.

Miscellaneous:
- TOW + Battery issolater stickers.
- Billet oil filler cap.

Power:
-354HP @18psi on E85.

Tuner:
- Andy Stevens @ Hyperdrive Motorsport.

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After having driven the car for a little while now I'm quite content with the power level it's at for the time being. I'm keen on making it super reliable though so am thinking of buying:
- Greddy sump (+1000cc of oil).
- Koyo radiator.
- Oil cooler.
And also possibly a surge tank of some description if I think it needs one.

[_oz]

With the GReddy sumps, they take exactly a 5L bottle of oil including the filter which works out perfect :)

[The_Hunster]

Just out of interest what changes are required to have an effective e85 (100% or 50/50) setup for sr20? minimum 1000cc injectors? aftermarket fuel rail? what else?

[Torquen]

You could get away with 1000cc injectors but you may max them out fi you;re chasing really big numbers/power (hence why I went for 1200cc).
After-market fuel rail and larger intank fuel pump is needed also.

That's really about it... ohh and maybe a deep wallet :p E85 ain't fricken cheap :(

If you run a 50/50 (E42.5) mix then you could probs use even smaller injectors if you wanted.

[The_Hunster]

cheers for that, out of interest where did you get ur fuel rail from? They seem like a pretty simple bit of kit so i thought getting a cheapy from ebay could be an option... thoughts?

[Torquen]

Andy Stevens from Hyperdrive supplied and fitted everything mechanical for me. I shouldn't think that it'd be too hard to find a similar part online though :)

[Torquen]

Small update - Koyo rad installed as I put a nice hole in the stock one last tuning day at Barbs :p Runs way cooler now at around 80-83*C under normal driving. Haven't had a chance to see what it's like on the track, but hopefully Monday :)

[DCEVO]

Just read the whole thread and youve got a weapon there mate nicely done makes good power for stock cams too

[Torquen]

Well after a fail track day last Friday we have the damage assessed as: 1 x blown head gasket, 2 x blown rad hoses (caused by said gasket), 1 x broken screamer pipe, and a swollen Koyo rad (also caused by said gasket) :(

Thinking of upgrading cams to either 256's or 264's when I do the gasket as well.

[Turbo2.6L]

What condition is the head in? Didn't someone on here (JAYBEE maybe??) have a complete SR head with cams for sale recently??

[Torquen]

Unknown as yet Dean. Haven't had a chance to take it all apart, I'm hoping it's not too bad... but considering all things it may have copped a little bit of damage.

[Turbo2.6L]

For the cost of machining, cams, valves, seats etc in your existing head, probably more cost efficient to buy one that's already done provided it's in good condition & has the correct spec cams.

[Torquen]

Deffs an option if it turns out to be fucked... wouldn't mind a VE head though. Less boost and rev it to 9,000 :D

[SimonR32]

or put a RB in her :)

[Torquen]

Nah only good RB's are 25's and 26's and they're both too heavy and will fuck the handling up in a 13. SR20's a good motors for these cars (if you ignore the truck sound).

[Skitzo]

Mate of mine is building an SR22VET for his S13.4 180SX atm.

[Torquen]

Any idea on cost Jared? The VE head needs a lot of modifications to fit AFAIK.

[Ben Wha]

He has spent close to 10k.

[Torquen]

Yeahhhhhp :( That's what I thought. Need to finish uni before I have the funds to do stuff like that.

[Fukushima]

hardtuned.net people who've done it say the head conversion will cost 10k

then you need to build the rest of the motor and supporting mods

despite all that I reckon its better way to go than jz or rb conversion

[Torquen]

Agreed on being a better option... but sadly I don't have 10k at the current time.

[Rb_sil]

Nah only good RB's are 25's and 26's and they're both too heavy and will fuck the handling up in a 13. SR20's a good motors for these cars (if you ignore the truck sound).

Heaps of people say this but if you set it up right then it wouldnt be a problem... and they are almost more common then an SR in a silvia now haha :D mine seems to handle just as good as a S13 with an SR in it and i still got stock sway bars...

[jaybee]

He has spent close to 10k.

yeah doesn't take long to add up, that's my old VE head i was planning on using. i regret selling that but it's very good to see it's gone to someone who is doing it right the first time, going to be awesome when done, and as far as i know the first one in WA?

[Sfidz]

Nope there is others.
Just put another Sr in it.
Cheap as chips :P

[Lonewolf]

interested to see where the $10k went, shouldnt be anywhere near that expensive unless using top of the line stuff like a Mazworx intake manifold etc

[jaybee]

which is what he is using haha