Maf tuning for lsx

[ReaperSS]

Im on a budget due to spending to much on my camera set up for my upcoming trip to karratha and want to know who is good value for money in regards to getting the vy ss tuned .

I know of wa performance, formulartec, css etc.
Any good recomendations?

[Yakky Bear]

wa performance of actives would be my two choices

[stumps.]

Stay away from FT
If you are on LS1 forums look up Oztrack Tuning he is over east and offers very affordable mail order tunes. I can help you install it if you wish but it is very easy.

Perth wise if you want a face to face WAperf, House of Power or chipmaster when he is in town are your best bets.

Cost wise tho a mailorder would be your best bet.

http://www.oztracktuning.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=29&Itemid=30

[AGIT8D]

oztrack does good mail orders, as does chipmaster. for a good local tune there is wa performance, active automotive, street quick performance or pro auto.

as yours is fairly stock i'd recommend just gettng a mail order and plugging it in. the benefits from dyno time and custom tuning won't be much for the cost involved.

[AGIT8D]

move your pcm into the passenger kick panel too :)

[YOUR MATE]

Go see Mitch at WA Perf. It's not much more than the OzTrack mail order tune and he does great work, that and as you do more mods he can adjust it to suit.

[RELEASE]

personally mail orders are a waste when you can go locally and get a better tune for not much more.

John @ SQP
Active Automotive
WA Performance

Are the people to see. All good guys and all know what they are doing.

[stumps.]

personally mail orders are a waste when you can go locally and get a better tune for not much more.

John @ SQP
Active Automotive
WA Performance

Are the people to see. All good guys and all know what they are doing.

No offense but for a stock ls1 mail order is they way to go. The engines have been out in Australia for 10 years. People know what tunes work with them. If you read the other thread ninja has stock everything including exhaust.

Working on a budget your looking at about $900 roughly in perth for a custom mafless tune. After you post your old PCM back to oztrack it costs $450. Half the price.

A custom tune v mail order on a stock car may see you 2HP gain.

A modified car however a dyno tune locally hands down

[YOUR MATE]

You dont need to go custom tune though. My SS hasn't had a dyno tune, just a tune mitch knocked up to suit my mods (OTR, diff gears & full exhaust). Was 700 from memory, although I'm not 100% as i just got it done all at once.

[RELEASE]

No offense but for a stock ls1 mail order is they way to go. The engines have been out in Australia for 10 years. People know what tunes work with them. If you read the other thread ninja has stock everything including exhaust.

Working on a budget your looking at about $900 roughly in perth for a custom mafless tune. After you post your old PCM back to oztrack it costs $450. Half the price.

A custom tune v mail order on a stock car may see you 2HP gain.

A modified car however a dyno tune locally hands downi said not a mail order tune as in exactly that...not one you get sent to you from over east or here

you can have a tune put in without going custom and on the dyno. Just like Brendon said, tuners offer a tune they flash in to suit the mods...sorta like a mail order but at least your car is driveable rather than being a dead brick while the PCM travels round australia

but yes...difference between a full custom tune and a mail order/flash tune for basic mods like exhausts, otr there would be a bee's dick in the rwhp final figure

oh and KEC would beg to differ about no improvements in the 5.7 anymore
they got a auto VY SS ute with exhaust and cam only at a lovely 462rwhp....they are leading the performance world in WA for LSX

[RELEASE]

if the car is all stock including the exhaust and air intake....whats the motivation behind getting it tuned?

[AGIT8D]

i said not a mail order tune as in exactly that...not one you get sent to you from over east or here

you can have a tune put in without going custom and on the dyno. Just like Brendon said, tuners offer a tune they flash in to suit the mods...sorta like a mail order but at least your car is driveable rather than being a dead brick while the PCM travels round australia

but yes...difference between a full custom tune and a mail order/flash tune for basic mods like exhausts, otr there would be a bee's dick in the rwhp final figure

Mail order tunes can suit OTR/exhaust, etc etc as well, so I still fail to see your point. Like Ben said, the lsx series engines have been here for 10 years now, ANY shop would have a plethora of tunes on their laptop which they could load in, for auto or manual, specific to OTR style and brand of extractors.

When the car is virtually factory there is no benefit in getting an in-store tune over a mail order, especially from reputable shops. If he was planning to do more mods in the near future then sure, why not spend a bit more and go to a shop where the tune can be tweaked to suit future mods, but it was stressed that budget is critical.

I'd pull my pcm, send it off while I go on a fishing trip up north and it'll be back when he gets back from holidays :)

[AGIT8D]

if the car is all stock including the exhaust and air intake....whats the motivation behind getting it tuned?

Fuel economy, performance, tightening up the gearbox shifts.

[RELEASE]

Mail order tunes can suit OTR/exhaust, etc etc as well, so I still fail to see your point. Like Ben said, the lsx series engines have been here for 10 years now, ANY shop would have a plethora of tunes on their laptop which they could load in, for auto or manual, specific to OTR style and brand of extractors.

When the car is virtually factory there is no benefit in getting an in-store tune over a mail order, especially from reputable shops. If he was planning to do more mods in the near future then sure, why not spend a bit more and go to a shop where the tune can be tweaked to suit future mods, but it was stressed that budget is critical.

I'd pull my pcm, send it off while I go on a fishing trip up north and it'll be back when he gets back from holidays :)i never said mail order tunes dont suit exhaust otr etc. i just made the point why get a mail order when you can get the same thing flashed in 30min at a workshop locally rather than send your pcm over east and install it when it gets back. at least doing it here at WA Perf, SQP, Actives, if something plays up or goes wrong you can go and take the car to them and speak to them rather than deal with someone over the phone.

and like my post and brendans, a instore tune is a bees dick difference in price over one sent from over east.

at least with a instore tune flashed in then future mods can be done through that workshop and you pay a difference in cost fee for adjusting the tune rather than having to pay for your mail order pcm to be unlocked then full price tune when a local place does the future mods

also supports the WA workshops that support our industry...you know the workshops that got off there ass to get rid of IM240 with the other ppl and to make sure we can all relax and have modified cars rather than turning them into weekend/never driven cars

[RELEASE]

Fuel economy, performance, tightening up the gearbox shifts.A VT/VX...yeah there is gain to be had for the $450 tune figure as they guzzled fuel and were sloppy

but VY/VZ they were good enough on stock that $450 for very minimal improvement really isnt worth it

[stumps.]

You can send you PCM after you receive the tune and get the refund afterwards. No dead cars.

Have you had one before Dean? You seem to bagging something you have never tried.

[AGIT8D]

i never said mail order tunes dont suit exhaust otr etc. i just made the point why get a mail order when you can get the same thing flashed in 30min at a workshop locally rather than send your pcm over east and install it when it gets back. at least doing it here at WA Perf, SQP, Actives, if something plays up or goes wrong you can go and take the car to them and speak to them rather than deal with someone over the phone.

and like my post and brendans, a instore tune is a bees dick difference in price over one sent from over east.

at least with a instore tune flashed in then future mods can be done through that workshop and you pay a difference in cost fee for adjusting the tune rather than having to pay for your mail order pcm to be unlocked then full price tune when a local place does the future mods

also supports the WA workshops that support our industry...you know the workshops that got off there ass to get rid of IM240 with the other ppl and to make sure we can all relax and have modified cars rather than turning them into weekend/never driven cars

I wouldn't call $250 a bee's dick when I'm on a budget - and that's just going by the rough figure Brendan stated..

Why don't you support local shops and buy your wheels from WA then instead of importing them from the states? Cause it's too expensive. It applies in all forms Dean.

After 10 years of basic lsx tuning I highly doubt something would go wrong with a maf tune in an unmodified car.


A VT/VX...yeah there is gain to be had for the $450 tune figure as they guzzled fuel and were sloppy

but VY/VZ they were good enough on stock that $450 for very minimal improvement really isnt worth it

I disagree.. VY's were about 10kw more powerful than a VX? Still plenty of gain to be had, in fuel economy and performance. If you read Marc's other thread you'll also note that beefing up the shifts is one of his priorities so regardless of model a tune will assist in this.

[stumps.]

A VT/VX...yeah there is gain to be had for the $450 tune figure as they guzzled fuel and were sloppy

but VY/VZ they were good enough on stock that $450 for very minimal improvement really isnt worth it

also a mafless tune on any of the above mentioned vehicle with an otr and exhaust will take them all into the 300rwhp mark +. Vt's not so much as they had a terrible intake.

[RELEASE]

You can send you PCM after you receive the tune and get the refund afterwards. No dead cars.

Have you had one before Dean? You seem to bagging something you have never tried.never done one before as my mods have never been small enough to justify one nor do i like the fact i dont have the local support. reason why John @ SQP adjusts my tunes these days and not Dan @ chipmaster as he comes once a month and is busy, etc.

just easier to drive down to johns whenever i have an issue, need adjustment, etc and get him to look at it.

i wasnt aware that oztrack is sending a pcm with tune done before he receives the customers tune back. is he charging a extra fee thats refunded when he gets a pcm back?

although my view still stands...rather have a "mail order" style tune flashed locally for the same price as a mail order and have the local support

[stumps.]

The rice boys are going to love this. All us arguing LOL

[stumps.]

never done one before as my mods have never been small enough to justify one nor do i like the fact i dont have the local support. reason why John @ SQP adjusts my tunes these days and not Dan @ chipmaster as he comes once a month and is busy, etc.

just easier to drive down to johns whenever i have an issue, need adjustment, etc and get him to look at it.

i wasnt aware that oztrack is sending a pcm with tune done before he receives the customers tune back. is he charging a extra fee thats refunded when he gets a pcm back?

although my view still stands...rather have a "mail order" style tune flashed locally for the same price as a mail order and have the local support

This is all well and good when you can afford bulk mods at the start. When you are working your way up in the game tho a cheap mafless is a good start for alot of extra power. Have a look at the link i posted above the tuner i mentioned charges $600 but gives a refund of $150 when you return your old PCM. Everything is express posted and the follow up support is great. Going from 225 or 235 engine KW to 300 engine kw with better economy and harder shifts is a bargin for $450.

I do support local shops and i am not being one eyed here. I have spent alot of money in perth shops aswell. i am helping Ninja with the best cost effective method for his requests.

[stumps.]

The $300 saved could go towards a catback or an OTR.

[RELEASE]

I wouldn't call $250 a bee's dick when I'm on a budget - and that's just going by the rough figure Brendan stated..

Why don't you support local shops and buy your wheels from WA then instead of importing them from the states? Cause it's too expensive. It applies in all forms Dean.

After 10 years of basic lsx tuning I highly doubt something would go wrong with a maf tune in an unmodified car.



I disagree.. VY's were about 10kw more powerful than a VX? Still plenty of gain to be had, in fuel economy and performance. If you read Marc's other thread you'll also note that beefing up the shifts is one of his priorities so regardless of model a tune will assist in this.my wheels from the states are being purchased purely based on there is no quality wheels and i mean build quality in Aus to suit my car and custom offsets/sizes i need and coz i dont want the same rims as the other 1million fully sick falcodore ppl out there
so not same same

i havent read marcs other thread...purely going by what he has asked for here

10kw more than VX means nothing about the tuning side. peak power doesnt increase with fuel trimmings and peak power is just that...a pretty number what it does when your wringing its neck

[RELEASE]

This is all well and good when you can afford bulk mods at the start. When you are working your way up in the game tho a cheap mafless is a good start for alot of extra power. Have a look at the link i posted above the tuner i mentioned charges $600 but gives a refund of $150 when you return your old PCM. Everything is express posted and the follow up support is great. Going from 225 or 235 engine KW to 300 engine kw with better economy and harder shifts is a bargin for $450.

I do support local shops and i am not being one eyed here. I have spent alot of money in perth shops aswell. i am helping Ninja with the best cost effective method for his requests.but marc wants a maf tune with a stock intake and stock exhaust.....so $450 isnt gonna get him much apart from the shifts on the auto.
not sure if thats an extra charge tho. something to ask i guess

also trying to give marc the best cost effective advice and with a VY SS with stock intake, stock exhaust....$450 for shift points isnt really cost effective

if it was what you did with exhaust, otr, and went mafless then hell yeah! great bang for your buck

[RELEASE]

The rice boys are going to love this. All us arguing LOLnot arguing....just discussing :p

[stumps.]

As mentioned in the other thread my first car had a stock intake and stock headers and cats. Only a catback and K and N filter when I first went mafless and the difference was amazing. Which was also a auto

Im not refering to my current setup

[AGIT8D]

my wheels from the states are being purchased purely based on there is no quality wheels and i mean build quality in Aus to suit my car and custom offsets/sizes i need
so not same same

i havent read marcs other thread...purely going by what he has asked for here

10kw more than VX means nothing about the tuning side. peak power doesnt increase with fuel trimmings and peak power is just that...a pretty number what it does when your wringing its neck

who cares where the wheels are made, why don't you use someone local to import them for you - support local business brah.

well going purely by what he asked for on here - a budget maf tune - you'd agree with what ben has posted about a $450 mail order tune, surely :)

HAHAHA... okay - so a mail order tune only trims up the fuel map at WOT @ redline does it?

you'll notice better fuel consumption AND more power across the board, not just at redline. so yes, there are decent gains to be had without touching intake or exhaust in a VX or a VY/VZ.

my point was that the VY is only 10kw more powerful than a VX, meaning there is still plenty of beef left in it potential wise with a tune only. you make it sound like holden poured lots of fuel into a VX tune and then trimmed them right up in the VY/VZ so a tune was rendered useless unless you went intake/exhaust - not true.

[AGIT8D]

but marc wants a maf tune with a stock intake and stock exhaust.....so $450 isnt gonna get him much apart from the shifts on the auto.
not sure if thats an extra charge tho. something to ask i guess

also trying to give marc the best cost effective advice and with a VY SS with stock intake, stock exhaust....$450 for shift points isnt really cost effective

if it was what you did with exhaust, otr, and went mafless then hell yeah! great bang for your buck

Dean what are you crapping on about? What the hell makes you think a maf tune would retain factory fuel and timing maps?

Is it not well enough documented the gains you get over factory with JUST a tune!?!?!?!?

Like I listed, he will gain:

FUEL ECONOMY
PERFORMANCE
FIRMER SHIFTS

This thread is deteriorating rapidly.

[YOUR MATE]

From what i gathered in Deans post is that fuel economy wise, the VY/VZ's are not nearly as horrid on fuel as VT/VX's were out the factory. My SS wasn't thirsty at all before the tune, and still isn't now. But it's got alot more poke in it since I had tune + bolt ons done, obviously.

[AGIT8D]

From what i gathered in Deans post is that fuel economy wise, the VY/VZ's are not nearly as horrid on fuel as VT/VX's were out the factory. My SS wasn't thirsty at all before the tune, and still isn't now. But it's got alot more poke in it since I had tune + bolt ons done, obviously.

Agreed Brendan, they would be about 10kw more efficient :P But you'd still notice both performance and economy gains with a maf tune, regardless of intake and exhaust mods. That's really what I'm trying to get across here. And for the ultimate in reliable budget maf tunes - See Bens posts :)

[RELEASE]

Dean what are you crapping on about? What the hell makes you think a maf tune would retain factory fuel and timing maps?

Is it not well enough documented the gains you get over factory with JUST a tune!?!?!?!?

Like I listed, he will gain:

FUEL ECONOMY
PERFORMANCE
FIRMER SHIFTS

This thread is deteriorating rapidly.you sure i am crapping and not you? never said tune would retain factory fuel and timing maps. all you have done is put words in my mouth. read my shit and less attitude on being a mad pingpingpingping on antilag

have a look...its well documented that JUST A TUNE gives SFA gains on a factory car. the only car it was good to do a tune on factory wise was VT/VX as they were horrid on fuel. speak to a few tuners, do some searches on ls1 and it will all be revealed. the VX HSV were by far the worst...things were sooooo fuel happy wasnt happy. i had one so i can comment. the fact my VX R8 was doing 22L/100km average on same driving i am doing now where my cammed 6L heavier car does 16L/100km shows something

and IF marc wants a maf tune then its even more of a waste as MAF tunes on a LS1 were to a point a waste. mafless had great gains, greater response etc.


From what i gathered in Deans post is that fuel economy wise, the VY/VZ's are not nearly as horrid on fuel as VT/VX's were out the factory. My SS wasn't thirsty at all before the tune, and still isn't now. But it's got alot more poke in it since I had tune + bolt ons done, obviously.EXAKERY!!!!!
Spending $450 on fuck all gain in fuel is a waste. like i said the only real gain would be the shift points then its up to marc whether firmer shifts justifies a $450 spend
power would be increased too yes

[RELEASE]

Agreed Brendan, they would be about 10kw more efficient :P But you'd still notice both performance and economy gains with a maf tune, regardless of intake and exhaust mods. That's really what I'm trying to get across here. And for the ultimate in reliable budget maf tunes - See Bens posts :)Ben was MAFLESS not MAF.....big difference in response, fuel economy and power

[SEXUAL TYRANNOSAURUS]

OH SNAP!!

[stumps.]

Spending $450 on fuck all gain in fuel is a waste. like i said the only real gain would be the shift points then its up to marc whether firmer shifts justifies a $450 spend
power would be increased too yes

/thread you said it there.

P.s. did you get the r8 tuned while you had it? Do you have any real world experience with the ls1 motor?

I'm not bagging you out but this is my third ls car and i have run a few different exhausts,tunes, intake setups, gearboxes, stalls and different diff gears.



We are only trying to help and save ninja some money.

[RELEASE]

/thread you said it there.

P.s. did you get the r8 tuned while you had it? Do you have any real world experience with the ls1 motor?

I'm not bagging but this is my third and i have run a few different exhausts,tunes, intake setups.

We are only trying to help and save ninja some money.saving ninja some money would be getting a mafless pipe on his stock box and going mafless at the same cost as now...alot better.

yes Dan @ chipmaster tuned it mafless with the mafless pipe and stock airbox with a full difillipo exhaust.

[stumps.]

Ok then you would be aware of the difference. which does make me happy. GTS pipes can be had for $50 but as i said not necessary a rubber sleve can be installed where the maff is. Or the maff can even be retained and not used. It still works and still increase performance ALOT (i did this when i returned my old vx back to stock when it was written off. Completely stock everything with mafless tune).

Exhaust and intake are for optimal results not having them doesnt mean no results.

The worst thing about this thread is that we have probably scared Ninja off from doing this and he will miss out on a very cheap worthy upgrade.

[RELEASE]

Ok then you would be aware of the difference. which does make me happy. GTS pipes can be had for $50 but as i said not necessary a rubber sleve can be installed where the maff is. Or the maff can even be retained and not used. It still works and still increase performance ALOT (i did this when i returned my old vx back to stock when it was written off. Completely stock everything with mafless tune).

Exhaust and intake are for optimal results not having them doesnt mean no results.

The worst thing about this thread is that we have probably scared Ninja off from doing this and he will miss out on a very cheap worthy upgrade.yep. maffless pipe or rubber boot + Mafless mail order will give him slightly better fuel, better shifts and more performance.

are the auto gearboxes in the VT-VZ same as the VE where there is a separate programmable computer that controls the gearbox? if so there may be an extra cost to program the auto too?
my HSV VX was a manual so never had a V8 auto...

[ReaperSS]

Cheers for the imput guys. I had a good chat with Mitch and will get the tune. Top bloke and offerd great advise.

Cheers stumps for helpin with cost saving ideas.
Im just around the corner from wa perform so might drop it there for the day

[RELEASE]

Cheers for the imput guys. I had a good chat with Mitch and will get the tune. Top bloke and offerd great advise.

Cheers stumps for helpin with cost saving ideas.
Im just around the corner from wa perform so might drop it there for the dayyou're in good hands. enjoy :)

[ReaperSS]

Cheers :)

[stumps.]

yep. maffless pipe or rubber boot + Mafless mail order will give him slightly better fuel, better shifts and more performance.

are the auto gearboxes in the VT-VZ same as the VE where there is a separate programmable computer that controls the gearbox? if so there may be an extra cost to program the auto too?
my HSV VX was a manual so never had a V8 auto...

The bolded bit seems to be what we were saying at the start?
Nope auto is tuned via the pcm. As we said at the start.


Cheers for the imput guys. I had a good chat with Mitch and will get the tune. Top bloke and offerd great advise.

Cheers stumps for helpin with cost saving ideas.
Im just around the corner from wa perform so might drop it there for the day

You will love it


you're in good hands. enjoy :)

I agree here

[shane]

Dean, sometimes you make my head hurt. :confused:

[RELEASE]

The bolded bit seems to be what we were saying at the start?
Nope auto is tuned via the pcm. As we said at the start.without firing up the discussion again.....
marc asked for maf tune....so my argument that its a waste on maf tuning stock car is valid :p

but on mafless its a different story LOL

cheers for the advice on the auto...something to put in the memory bank

Dean, sometimes you make my head hurt. :confused:sorry shane :confused:

[stumps.]

Point granted he did ask for Maf tune but in the other thread a maffless tune was recommended so that what I presumed he ment.

[KPWISHN]

:lol: Proper girls blouses the lot of you. Ring Daniel (Chipmaster).....get mailorder tune....get happy. $300 for maf tune, $400 for mafless. You will have no problems and car will really wake up. 2 hole mod is your friend for a stocker that wants to remain looking stock.

[AGIT8D]

some tuners are getting great results from maf tunes these days. years ago it was all the rage to get mafless but not really anymore. for a completely stock car a maf tune would be fine, and benefits would be obvious.

no point hashing over it all again, OP has nutted the issue out :)

[MrSparkle]

Off topic for a sec but you guys seem to know so i will ask. What kind of economy/hp could i expect from a vy/vz 5.7 ss ute 5 speed manual with the basics being exhaust extractors and otr and of course the appropriate tune?

[stumps.]

5 speed manual? they are 6 spd

na you would get around 300-320 rwhp with hi flow cats and good intake all going well.

I have those mods with a 3.9 diff and i get 450k's to a tank city driving heavy foot and alot more freeway. In 6th it sits at 1650rpm at 100k's

[ReaperSS]

My ss is stock, well cat back exaust. Its on average 13.8 ltrs per 100klm around town.

Mates car after tune went down to 9ltrs per 100 around town and more HP

[MrSparkle]

Sorry 6 speed my bad

Its not like this is my thing im curious is all. They seem to be getting cheaper and might be worth checking out.

[MrSparkle]

My ss is stock, well cat back exaust. Its on average 13.8 ltrs per 100klm around town.

Mates car after tune went down to 9ltrs per 100 around town and more HP

Thats quite a difference, Is that the main reason for the tune? better economy?

[stumps.]

Plus better shifts and power. have you not read this thread?

[MrSparkle]

yeah dude i was just stirring :P

[AGIT8D]

Plus better shifts and power. have you not read this thread?

AAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

For what its worth I get around 400km/tank of highway driving I reckon. Got to Dunsborough with half a tank to spare. Topped it up before return journey just to be safe, though.

[Tre-Cool]

could not be bothered reading 2 pages of debate.

if you have the inclination or the time to learn, do it yourself.

It's more fun and you'll learn a great deal.

As for the whole maf vs mafless debate, the main reason for going mafless on the pre-ve cars was the limited ability of the maf's flow tables maxing out under boosted conditions and the 75mm maf acting as a restriction if you were running say a 85-90+ mm throttlebody.

In the VE's this isnt an issue at all even on the older ecu's upto the my09 models which will still make up to & over 600rwhp before the maf tables max out (depending on injector size) and with the 90mm maf would make no noticable differences in power in n/a form.

The main difference comes to time in tuning them. Mafless takes longer because to get the fuelling 100% right you need to log all the map ranges and correct the fuelling, the older LS1 ecu's have say "90" cells (arbiturary number im making up as i cant be fucked getting specific) for the fuel table vs 30 for the maf.

In the VE models the fuel table is about 300 cells and again about 30 for the maf. So you can see why tuning the maf is much quicker, it's also quicker in reacting to changes, but it tends to blend & dampen the "crispness" of the throttle unlike a mafless tune.

[ReaperSS]

is there any law around that says you have to have afm? Can you get a yellow?

[RICEY]

Hate to throw a spanner in the works but my bog stock VZ LS1 gained 50rwhp from a MAF tune so yes there is big gains to be had by tuning stock cars. Ran it up before the tune and got 250rwhp, after the tune and a few test drives and tweaks we got 301rwhp. This was with stock exhaust and intake.

[Tre-Cool]

is there any law around that says you have to have afm? Can you get a yellow?

yes, as technically your messing with the emissions related equipment.

though you would be very unlikely to be done for it.

[ReaperSS]

Thats mint Ricey! Impressive. Take us for a spin if you are free at anystage ?

[Tre-Cool]

Hate to throw a spanner in the works but my bog stock VZ LS1 gained 50rwhp from a MAF tune so yes there is big gains to be had by tuning stock cars. Ran it up before the tune and got 250rwhp, after the tune and a few test drives and tweaks we got 301rwhp. This was with stock exhaust and intake.

VZ was pretty good from the factory for the intake as they put in a decent pipe to begin with and had a slightly larger 85mm maf.

Besides stock tune would run rich as for shitty fuel.

[RICEY]

Thats mint Ricey! Impressive. Take us for a spin if you are free at anystage ?

If you give me a wristy Im keen!

[Mistikal]

:lol: Proper girls blouses the lot of you. Ring Daniel (Chipmaster).....get mailorder tune....get happy. $300 for maf tune, $400 for mafless. You will have no problems and car will really wake up. 2 hole mod is your friend for a stocker that wants to remain looking stock.

Sorry to be blunt, and admin can delete if this is out of line - I will NEVER let Chippy touch my car again. Chucked one of his tunes in, admittedly he tuned it on the go rather than with a dyno, but it was using more fuel (22-25L/100k), the motor would ping it's little titties off, and the gearbox was dopey as - didn't know when to change, didn't know when to kick down, would flare out, etc etc.

Had Mitch @ WAPerf chuck a known-good gearbox-only tune thru it, and had another good mate clean up the rest of the tune for me as a favour, and it runs much MUCH nicer, even without any dyno time. Gearbox is rock solid, shifts and performs exactly how I expect it too, and the fuel consumption has halved.

Needless to say, Chippy used to run a shop in Perth; there might be other reasons why he's no longer in Perth, but those in the know will know exactly why he is no longer based here.

[KPWISHN]

Each to there own i guess. I've had a great run using Daniel.

[ReaperSS]

If you give me a wristy Im keen!

haha job done ;)

Come to a wander to parts if you are heading out for a lap

[ReaperSS]

Just got car mafless tuned at wa performance. Very happy with the results.
Very professional service.
No OTR , no extractors 313 horsepower at the rear wheels.
Shifts nice and hard and goes really well.

[stumps.]

Good result!

[ReaperSS]

Cheers can feel the difference and im loving the crisp shifts

[AGIT8D]

Good stuff dude! Enjoy the new power

[ReaperSS]

Good stuff dude! Enjoy the new power

Cheers just got to watch out now for mr plod lol

[stumps.]

Cheers can feel the difference and im loving the crisp shifts

Happy you didn't spend that money getting shift kits?

[YOUR MATE]

Burnout??

[ReaperSS]

Happy you didn't spend that money getting shift kits?

very glad i didnt ;)

[ReaperSS]

Burnout??

no problems at all now :)

Interesting in the wet this morning

[ADZR8]

Just got car mafless tuned at wa performance. Very happy with the results.
Very professional service.
No OTR , no extractors 313 horsepower at the rear wheels.
Shifts nice and hard and goes really well.

Did you end up getting it dyno tuned or just flashed and then a power run?

[ReaperSS]

Had it dyno tuned