Who works in the mines... not many, if any.

[Lump]

Went past in the bus the other day and I saw a power pole about 1m inside the road reserve at a intersection . Is that getting moved?

[TJ]

Telstra data profits will be down 500% in Newman when Damo leaves

[Damo 69]

Went past in the bus the other day and I saw a power pole about 1m inside the road reserve at a intersection . Is that getting moved?

LOL, yes.

Need to remove power lines, before that can happen the new transformer needs to arrive so we can commission the underground power, then the lines get dropped, poles removed and hole patched.

[magic1]

fuck your transformer

[2LMILK]

Being 8/7 I used outlook to create a recurring calender then uploaded it to Samsung s4. Good for even time roster. Shit for like 2/1

[azzada1]

Waiting for my call to go to barrow island.. Ill be waiting awhile lol.. Managed to jump threw all the hoops though and had the one on one interveiw and fitter test... Untill then ill be working my time away at Tiwest/tronox... Still fairly quiet up in the pilbra?

[skidkid]

pretty quiet in here of late. A reflection of what is happening 'out there'? Seen maybe 2 or 3 WA mining enviro jobs pop up since taking my new job, which was back in July.

I just picked up a new enviro job in Perth, starting on the 22nd - first response I've had since replying to 1/2 a week for the last 9 months

[Denver]

I use rnr free for my scheduling.

[Buckets]

I use the site admin girls.

[Greg Rust]

Waiting for my call to go to barrow island.. Ill be waiting awhile lol.. Managed to jump threw all the hoops though and had the one on one interveiw and fitter test... Untill then ill be working my time away at Tiwest/tronox... Still fairly quiet up in the pilbra?

Kwinana,
Chandala
Cooljarloo?

[Awdsome]

Any surveing gigs going up north that you guys know about?

[azzada1]

Kwinana,
Chandala
Cooljarloo?

Kwinana, just contracting there at the moment

[Greg Rust]

Ah coolness. I'm there a fair bit doing pumps, mech seals and a bunch of other stuff.

[azzada1]

Good stuff, contracting im guessing? Proweld,Skilled,Taylors?

[Greg Rust]

Contractor site access by supplying pumps and mechanical seals.

Currently working on Dynawave issues in area 200 with John Hall and Bluey.

[azzada1]

Hahaha blueys my supervisor.. I replaced two of the dynawave pumps afew weeks back.. Nothing but issues coming from that POS lol

[Greg Rust]

Blueys a top bloke. Took me for a spin in his TT VE. Quick ute is quick.

[azzada1]

Ahh I didnt relise it was boosted! Ill have to hit him up hahah.. He was only just showing me today his videos of his rail that runs 6.80-90s

[Greg Rust]

Yea did you see the one of him when he pulled the chute and it went up on one back wheel!!

[azzada1]

Yeah he was very proud of that save haha.. I would be to!

[HotAe92]

I just picked up a new enviro job in Perth, starting on the 22nd - first response I've had since replying to 1/2 a week for the last 9 months

Nice work Tom! Mining gig or consulting?

[huggy_b]

Nice work Tom! Mining gig or consulting?

Guberment worker.

[TJ]

If you are regional, and have electric dump truck experience, I would suggest having a look on seek right about now.

[SSICK]

Curious......What would a sparky expect to be paid doing 4/1 on Rio Sites?

[skidkid]

Yeah regional government job based in belmont, bit of a change from mining but a step in the right direction for my career.

SSICK - $180k pa ish from memory

[Lmx]

Yeah regional government job based in belmont, bit of a change from mining but a step in the right direction for my career.

SSICK - $180k pa ish from memory
Would of thought working 4/1 with a qualification you'd get more than that? Hardly worth it in comparison to what a sparky can make in Perth when you factor in tax and time away.

[Faz]

Rio don't necessarily pay the best out of the big boys but give you a shit load of benifits, i.e private health cover, unlimited sick days ect ect.

would imagine 180k to be minimum, mate just got put onto with FMG sparky 8n6 on 160+

And I just quit mine as a sparky for 2n1 for 125k

[mr_mike]

sounds about right for what a mate of mine is on. Spends most of his time away either pulling cable, checking circuit breakers or inspecting light bulbs.

[Bomber]

PM DanWA

[Tre-Cool]

Im not aware of any Rio site that would do 4/1 unless your contract construction.

would only be 8/6 or 14/7

[Passage GT]

i'm not aware of any rio employee's doing 4/1's, contractors mainly on those rosters.
but the benefits from working for rio are pretty extensive, even though they can be a pain in the arse to work for.
i get up to 6 weeks paid sick leave a year, though that can be extended quite a bit for extreme cases, cancer or serious illness's etc.

[Satan]

4/1 is defo not a Rio Roster

[SSICK]

Yeah was for another company doing work on Rio sites....

$38ph flat rate and a daily living away from home allowance.

Lol....

[forde]

Lol $36ph is pretty shit. I was on $46ph plus penalties at roy hill last year. Although that was construction.

[skidkid]

38pa + overtime would be right for a TA, not sparky..

[crabman]

Got a couple of questions for people here. First one relating to mechanical fitters, anyone here gone from heavy diesel spec mechanic to fixed plant fitter? How did you snag it etc?

Second question, flange management & torquing courses etc. what have people out there had to do to work on gas/petrochemical plants? Just about finished my Process Plant Operations course and want to at least work in a mechanical role around construction or maintenance of plants and been told that I should be able to make the move by people I am doing this course with and that fitters on Barrow and working through Tecside on the Bayu Undan shut had to have some flange torquing course by Hydratight done. I found this one online yesterday ( http://www.siteskillstraining.com.au/courses/perth/flange-integrity-management-level-1/ ) and it is being run for the first time mid-October, as in their training rig is still being built, this is much more affordable than the 2 day hydratight course, which I want to do as well but is not affordable at like 2k if me and another guy on the course can rustle up the minimum numbers lol.

[Lump]

if you want to get fixed plant mining experience, get onto Linkforce - they are screaming out for trade qualified mech fitters for fifo shutdowns.
rate is only $48/hr, but its one easy way to get fixed plant experience.

[crabman]

Will experience with them be recognized and allow me to swap over to work on oil and gas plant later on you reckon? Just worried about that whole mining - o&g being different stigma. A mate who is and inlec with Woodside said it is like that with that trade, making the jump is very difficult. So tossing up whether I go for fitter in mining with experience being on site, or do I go for TA on barrow/wheatstone/Itchys and then lie later on saying I was a fitter on those projects :P

A guy on this course with me is with them actually.

[-Luke-]

Thread needs moar Danwa.

[Lump]

no i dont rekon it will get you into o+g - anything's possible of course, but realistically I would highly doubt it.

[cheeimp]

anyone do shutdown recuitment?

planning on leaving my fifo 2/1 job in early november to concentration on a few other things in perth but still keen to do the occasional shut when it suits or if money gets a bit tight.

Most places i've come across seem to be casual basis but you end up working all the time.
any companies i should look into?

[thommo]

Phoenix shutdowns?

[cheeimp]

Sorry might add that i'm a HV sparky with about 5 years site experience mainly doing fixed plant shift work

[Bomber]

Monodalpheous (spelling??)

[f6rspec]

Diab or Phoenix both operate out of Boddington

[n1ghth4wk]

Also have Minprovise doing shutdown work at Bodd for mobile plant (electric shovels) (and other sites too I guess).

[azzada1]

Monadelphous have some O&G work up at darwin the last I heard, I did 12 months on pluto with them but im currently in the pending list for CBI on barrow.. Alot of iron ore fitter are trying to jump to o&g and it seems very hard as they only want experienced o&g workers, It seems to be who you know alot of the time these days unless your resume is ridiculous. I was lucky to get onto pluto but once I was given the chance I didnt let it slip, the supervisor I had has dragged me to multiple jobs since then...

[crabman]

A friend is currently in the running for recruitment/ mobilisatiom position with cbi for barrow. That will be my ticket there lol

[SSICK]

I already have friends in that position for CBI/Kentz.

Goodluck getting that ticket.

[Miggy]

The cruise ship for accommodation is just about here, when that arrives people will start getting mobilised.

[butters]

Just got up to the Roy Hill project, working on the rail section, staying at camp 4, anyone else up here?

[crabman]

I already have friends in that position for CBI/Kentz.

Goodluck getting that ticket.

It's clearly doing nothing for me haha. Application still sitting there with nothing back. Know of a couple of people not trade qualified who got interviews... maybe I got application in too late FML

[Brett_J]

Missus is with CKJV, have a job there if I want it with her at Barrow any time I want it. Will be an option next year I think.

[adrenalin]

Just got up to the Roy Hill project, working on the rail section, staying at camp 4, anyone else up here?

Will be soon i think.

First machine is on the boat and on its way. Fixed Stacker.

We got till end of month to finish the 2 mine stackers. Then 4 weeks after that the mine reclaimer and first port stacker is on its way.

[mr_mike]

Is anyone up barrow on a 2-1? I was under the impression it's only 4-1 but painter who just left my work reckons he got 2-1 cos of who his dad is. Dunno if he talking shit or not.

[Greg Rust]

My cousin is on Barrow on 4-1 working for CBI Kentz.

[Damo 69]

Is anyone up barrow on a 2-1? I was under the impression it's only 4-1 but painter who just left my work reckons he got 2-1 cos of who his dad is. Dunno if he talking shit or not.

most are 26 / 9

however ertech were doing 2/1

[evoeata]

Is anyone up barrow on a 2-1? I was under the impression it's only 4-1 but painter who just left my work reckons he got 2-1 cos of who his dad is. Dunno if he talking shit or not.

office staff are on 2/1 as well as some contractors. most are on 4/1 though.

[Miggy]

Voting on the new EBA will start soon first offer is 23/9, union is pushing for 20/10. Currently the client (KJV) does 20/10.

[magic1]

i fifoed yesterday.

it was hot.

[Brett_J]

Voting on the new EBA will start soon first offer is 23/9, union is pushing for 20/10. Currently the client (KJV) does 20/10.
Kentz are 20/10, CKJV are 26/9, missus was on the cruisy roster with Kentz, then went to ckjv, hoping the new eba goes through at 20/10.

[crabman]

I offered my friend 2k for a job. Lets see if that gets me anywhere lol

[Tocchi]

anybody at brockman 2?


Telstra data profits will be down 500% in Newman when Damo leaves
profit loss coincided with Perth's shittest posts changing from Pilbara to Perth location

[kamahl31]

Just got up to the Roy Hill project, working on the rail section, staying at camp 4, anyone else up here?

Working for john holland or in the earthworks? I'm at camp 3, should be at 4 in a couple of weeks

[butters]

Working for john holland or in the earthworks? I'm at camp 3, should be at 4 in a couple of weeks
Working for Samsungs surveying mob auditing NRWs work, I'm only at camp 4 until friday then moving into the mine camp and working on section 5 and 6.

[Pzest]

Working for Samsungs surveying mob auditing NRWs work, I'm only at camp 4 until friday then moving into the mine camp and working on section 5 and 6.

Who is that with? Samsung itself?

I am at Section 3 on the rehab crew, might be heading down section 4 to give them a hand, sounds like they might be in strife.

[butters]

Nah, Alliance Surveying. Ahh righto with nrw? I'm in section 4, for another week-ish then down to 5 & 6. Yeh 4 is gonna be a struggle to get done in time.

[Miggy]

Another suicide going by the rumours, this time at Wheatstone :/

[adrenalin]

samsung are a pack of pingpingpingpings. i hope roy hill bend them over.

[butters]

I hope they don't, I need this job for as long as possible. Not much of an opinion on them yet, only been on site for a week, no trouble so far.

[waxdass]

Another suicide going by the rumours, this time at Wheatstone :/

Someone died here at Gorgon about 3-4 weeks ago. Zip tied himself.

[crabman]

For those of us playing at home, what does "zip tying" oneself involve?

[mr_mike]

i'm guessing putting a large ziptie around ones neck. no backing out from that.

[crabman]

Poor fucker. Is there no option for immediate fly-out for these guys that are getting stressed out to this point?

[Stealthed]

I heard about the wheatstone death too, Old man is up there at the moment.

I don't know if it was a suicide though, he seemed to think the bloke just passed away. RIP either way, still sad. I'm sure in time we'll hear the full story.

[HotAe92]

Anyone catch the 'Flying Miners' on ABC last night?

[Lump]

yep, watched it in my donga.
mildly interesting, i feel for guys on long rosters (2/1 etc) with young kids

[waxdass]

For those of us playing at home, what does "zip tying" oneself involve?

As mentioned, i gather he zip tied his neck.

[millzy_88]

Poor fucker. Is there no option for immediate fly-out for these guys that are getting stressed out to this point?

There would be in most cases but these people are clearly in a dark place, feeling isolated so would feel like there wasn't. Plus taking such a flight would probably lead to you losing your job, adding to the feeling of not having a way out?

[adrenalin]

I hope they don't, I need this job for as long as possible. Not much of an opinion on them yet, only been on site for a week, no trouble so far.

Based on current experience make sure your company covers there ass as samsung will not hesitate to bend you over.

[TJ]

If you have electric dump truck exp and want a 3 month role on an 8/6, send me a pm.

HR a must

[mr_mike]

Anyone catch the 'Flying Miners' on ABC last night?

Yeah I did seems to be very biased towards people on the mines work soooooo hard and are away all the time they deserve the big $$.
That chick doing all right for herself 25 and 3 investment properties

[crabman]

Yeah I did seems to be very biased towards people on the mines work soooooo hard and are away all the time they deserve the big $$.
That chick doing all right for herself 25 and 3 investment properties

Not really doing alright if they are duds :P

Indian guy I used to work with loved harping on about his investment properties and how well he was doing at life. Until the QLD ones insurance bill came after all those floods and poor bastard couldn't afford it, then when redundancy rumour mill started he looked like he wasn't sleeping for days at a time.

[Satan]

3 investment properties just means bulk debt and with her flaky job I wouldn't feel too cocky

[HotAe92]

3 investment properties just means bulk debt and with her flaky job I wouldn't feel too cocky

She didn't come across as having a great deal of smarts.

[adrenalin]

So Gina Reinhardt is out at the site tomorrow in China. Should see the god dam boat she is on. Has to be worth at least 50 mil.

Will prob be something on news tomorrow night about it or at least in papers.

[Greg Rust]

Did anyone hear about Klinger burning to the ground today.

[mr_mike]

That the place in Welshpool?

[Bomber]

Xmas Creek has a good fire going

[Greg Rust]

That the place in Welshpool?

Yea they make gasket materials, braided packing and other fluid sealing products.

Also one of our major competitors.

[Damo 69]

https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10202794281085854&id=1465424551&set=gm.875508412459535&source=48

Huge fire at Christmas creek looks like an evacuation happening

[morgazmatron]

Yeah it got pretty close.. Lucky it started pissing down and put it out haha.. Otherwise would have been a looong night

http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss36/morgazmatron/Xmasfire.jpg

[butters]

those fires made their way over to roy hill, jumped accross the 40m formation and kept going, it's amazing how quickly the fire spreads, still burning away now.

[Miggy]

Someone died here at Gorgon about 3-4 weeks ago. Zip tied himself.

I'm up here as well, that was in August. There was another who did it while at home.

[mr_mike]

I wonder if the big companies will start doing regular psych tests like they do for D&A?

[Damo 69]

I wonder if the big companies will start doing regular psych tests like they do for D&A?

some allready do, i know BHP mount whaleback i had to, APLNG i had to, and my previous employer i had to, maybe due to falling under category of supervisor or not but its not uncommon.

[Cochee]

some allready do, i know BHP mount whaleback i had to, APLNG i had to, and my previous employer i had to, maybe due to falling under category of supervisor or not but its not uncommon.

Hogan?

[Damo 69]

Hogan?

have done hogan for APLNG i think, whaleback one was stupid was a series of questions along the lines of "if a person cuts you off while driving you A) cut them off back B) ignore them and continue your path C) confront them at the next set of traffic lights D) give them a rude gesture and continue your path"


well fuck BHP which answer do you think i will give to pass thiss bollocks

[Macca]

have done hogan for APLNG i think, whaleback one was stupid was a series of questions along the lines of "if a person cuts you off while driving you A) cut them off back B) ignore them and continue your path C) confront them at the next set of traffic lights D) give them a rude gesture and continue your path"


well fuck BHP which answer do you think i will give to pass thiss bollocks

A with c

[tinto]

A with c
When can you start?

[Nugs]

some allready do, i know BHP mount whaleback i had to, APLNG i had to, and my previous employer i had to, maybe due to falling under category of supervisor or not but its not uncommon.
Yep there is an online test we have to get the guys to do as part of onboarding for some clients.
Psyfactors.
Not sure how effective it actually is as it's pretty clear what the 'correct' answer is.

[f6rspec]

I would say E All the above

[adrenalin]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/1505381_10152471851626733_2422289509291069614_n.jp g?oh=9e18de251167c5083c28abc0d131cabd&oe=54B2AAF2&__gda__=1425139198_44a0053ddee7340d318a4e48d4fa7d8 9

Visit today out in China. Safety thongs and all.

[magic1]

cankles are strong

[j3rk]

Where in China are you mate? I'm over in Wuxi (north of Shanghai)

[adrenalin]

Ahh ok. In Dalian which is on the coast in line with north Korea.

[Greg Rust]

They could always test the stacker using her as a heavy test load.

[American Dave]

Gina's ore is heavy

[crabman]

Freaked out when I counted 6 toes on her right foot. I'm guessing one is merely a roll of fat.

[Damo 69]

Freaked out when I counted 6 toes on her right foot. I'm guessing one is merely a roll of fat.

she could be a reptilian shapeshifter here to conquor earth

[Buckets]

Praise the almighty Gina !

[Awdsome]

I surveyed her house, some good views she has there, insane sized swimming pool too (queue whale jokes)

[HotAe92]

Read today that Sinclair has been sold and due to re-open.

Bit of good news for the northern goldfields, as it looks like Windarra is making progress too?

[American Dave]

recruitment for Windarra is only a couple months away

[Buckets]

Falling AUD is good news for local jobs and project viability. Given everything we sell is in USD we need it to keep dropping might get a few more projects back on the boil.

[mys1]

AUD isn't falling exactly - just that the US has become stronger. Was at an interesting lunch last week with a great economist talking.

[sami_]

Anyone here at Area C? Will be starting in a few weeks on a 5/2/4/3 as mech/struct drafter
It's my first fifo role, any tips?

[adrenalin]

Dont be a lazy pingpingpingping.

Dont go in with a million ideas on how you would do it or would run it.

[-Luke-]

"at my last job"

[Bomber]

Anyone here at Area C? Will be starting in a few weeks on a 5/2/4/3 as mech/struct drafter
It's my first fifo role, any tips?
Yep, last night shift tonight actually, home tomorrow woohoo!

[180SXTCY]

Anyone here at Area C? Will be starting in a few weeks on a 5/2/4/3 as mech/struct drafter
It's my first fifo role, any tips?

If you need any mechanical designers let me know !

[Brett_J]

Dodged a bullet being sent up to Area C, had stuff on this week so they sent another guy, we are doing some water proofing/concrete repairs or something there.
Fuck working at that shit hole.

[devilfish]

Any Electrical & instrumentation guys on here work out on site?

[Butla]

Another suicide up at a pilbara iron ore site last night. Poor bastard. RIP :(

[Tocchi]

contractor, young guy too we were told, shame.

[Bomber]

Aww shit, what site? RIP

[XR 59 WA]

That's not good to hear. RIP bloke.

There was a middle aged guy found deceased in his room here at Wheatstone Tuesday before last too, one of our contractors, no one would state a cause of death. I thought they'd want to quash the suicide speculation pretty quickly but nothing has been said since.

[SSICK]

Was Brockman2.

Friend of mine is up there.

[Matt]

Area c is at it again, packsaddle camp has something wrong with the water filter system so all important people are being moved to Mulla Mulla and all us exploration contractors are being kicked out to spinafex.

[adrenalin]

2 mine stackers being molded into boat now.

reclaimer passed luffing and slew test.

wi'll throw up pica tomorrow

[TJ]

http://www.seek.com.au/job/27682408

get at me.

[crabman]

http://www.miningaustralia.com.au/news/rio-tinto-s-new-3-5-billion-iron-ore-mine-approved

Amazing that they're cost is meant to be around 20 a tonne. Some story in the Australian a month or so ago was talking about how Jimblebar could get cost down to 15, fuck me dead that's cheap lol.

[thommo]

The running costs haven't changed, places like jimblebar are just ramping up production. More tonnes out the door is dropping that $ per tonne figure. If they're aiming for $15 that's pretty impressive

[Passage GT]

http://www.seek.com.au/job/27682408

get at me.

you work for dt workforce TJ?

[TJ]

Yeah man.

[Passage GT]

good to know! they've taken over from skilled for the production roles at the cape, mate just started with them, depending on what happens in the next few weeks i might have to hit you up :)

[Bomber]

http://www.miningaustralia.com.au/news/rio-tinto-s-new-3-5-billion-iron-ore-mine-approved

Amazing that they're cost is meant to be around 20 a tonne. Some story in the Australian a month or so ago was talking about how Jimblebar could get cost down to 15, fuck me dead that's cheap lol.
MAC is around $13.70/T

[thommo]

MAC is around $13.70/T

not a chance with the $$ they're paying you

[munt]

They'll get that cost per tonne target by making all their employees indian or robots, they are already half way there!

[waxdass]

They'll get that cost per tonne target by making all their employees slaves or robots, they are already half way there!

fixed

[-Luke-]

MAC is around $13.70/T

Pit to port at 13.70 a tonne or pit to train? I seriously doubt it's landing on the ship for that amount but that is realistic from mine/haul/process.

[-Luke-]

This fucking guy---

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/25575502/twiggy-splashes-out-on-fmg-shares/

[Denver]

Pit to port at 13.70 a tonne or pit to train? I seriously doubt it's landing on the ship for that amount but that is realistic from mine/haul/process.
This. Fmg gets it out of the ground for around 20-24 bucks a ton and onto the train. And about 45 by the time it's trained. Off loaded. Stacked. Unstacked and dropped into a boat.

think our budget was 31 bucks a ton and were averaging 7-8 bucks a ton under budget to get it out of the ground.

[Greg Rust]

Mate of mine in Korea inspecting their new FPSO

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/16401_801011749945465_8825372968241628801_n.jpg?oh =dc32118d0795aad0739c2b7feda91317&oe=54E40734&__gda__=1427367871_fb7c127afc9d2650167dae6e821695c 0

https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/68193_801011763278797_6851594339110146925_n.jpg?oh =f2ff830abc667e6800e4f32981b61f38&oe=550F68EE

[Damo 69]

Anyone know where I can find a map showing who owns / if there are mining / quarrying leases on specific properties?

[thommo]

Anyone know where I can find a map showing who owns / if there are mining / quarrying leases on specific properties?

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02006/Aboriginal_2006936c.jpg

[Damo 69]

I sent Blaa a msg he didn’t respond

[skidkid]

Try throwing a boomerang at him

[crabman]

Mate of mine in Korea inspecting their new FPSO

Where is it being built? After I was snuck into the HHI ship building yards in Busan where all the Barrow Island modules were being built, I was dead set blown away at the scale of manufacturing over there. Hell even hearing about the mods made to the dry dock and bonus's being paid to HHI to deliver the Goliat FPSO not as late as forecast, as it was already majorly delayed.

[Bomber]

not a chance with the $$ they're paying you
Money for jam :cool:

Pit to port at 13.70 a tonne or pit to train? I seriously doubt it's landing on the ship for that amount but that is realistic from mine/haul/process.
Pit to train. To port is a couple of dollars more than RTIO

[turboknapp]

Pit to train sounds bout right.

We are going through budget now at BHP, they certainly are tightening up on things. The maintenance budget number is concerning

[evoeata]

Anyone know where I can find a map showing who owns / if there are mining / quarrying leases on specific properties?

maybe call the mines department as a starting point and see what they can tell you.

[turboknapp]

Anyone know where I can find a map showing who owns / if there are mining / quarrying leases on specific properties?

Landgate as well might be able to assist, they have all sorts of checks etc for what is going on

[TJ]

Apparently a camp is on fire at Barrow.

[crabman]

Isn't Barrow a royal cluster fuck waiting to happen when it comes to an out of control scrub fire?

[Buckets]

Anyone know where I can find a map showing who owns / if there are mining / quarrying leases on specific properties?

The Department of Mines & Petroleum.

[MaTMaN]

The Department of Mines & Petroleum.

Or use their online system, Tengraph. Requires registering for an account though.

Send me what you need Damo, I have an account and can look for you if you like.

[Alt_F4]

Anyone know where I can find a map showing who owns / if there are mining / quarrying leases on specific properties?
Try here: https://www.landgate.wa.gov.au/bmvf/app/mapviewer/
or here: https://www2.landgate.wa.gov.au/web/guest

or as above, Tengraph, which I've used in the past too

[Greg Rust]

Where is it being built? After I was snuck into the HHI ship building yards in Busan where all the Barrow Island modules were being built, I was dead set blown away at the scale of manufacturing over there. Hell even hearing about the mods made to the dry dock and bonus's being paid to HHI to deliver the Goliat FPSO not as late as forecast, as it was already majorly delayed.

http://www.inpex.com.au/news-media/news/ichthys-lng-project-fpso-takes-major-step-towards-completion/

[2jzlux]

Am I the only one concerned about riding in a ship built by daewoo?
The pingpingpingpings couldn't get a windscreen to seal in a car, what hope do they have of sealing a ship?

[Brett_J]

Not sure if sarcasm or chasing likes, you are aware they are one of the biggest Shop building companies out there?

[crabman]

The water treatment plant being built for that in Holland is meant to be a massive stuff up/rework waiting to happen lol.

[azzada1]

Flying out to barrow today, unaware of said fire TJ but ill be on the europa (cruise ship turned floating camp)
So i doubt itll bother me... Ahh fifo we meet again

[adrenalin]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10460275_10152522759281733_6166293844383805207_n.j pg?oh=efef88e53afecd88ab1d96a996ec64cc&oe=55148816&__gda__=1423920128_261db3cf67d043044e96fec03d598bc 5

The fun begins disassembling this thing and starting the punch list work.

[mr_mike]

Anyone know where I can find a map showing who owns / if there are mining / quarrying leases on specific properties?

Its pretty easy, just make a claim to it. If it produces nothing you own it, if it produces anything of value well done you have just stumbled onto some sacred spot where the local tribe used to sit.

[Baggus]

Any one out at cloudbreak? What can I expect? Just scored a job out there and should be starting next week

[Denver]

Doing what?

[Baggus]

Drill fitter / serviceman

[waxdass]

Who has heard of Gina's new minesite near Roy hill?
Apparently very hush hush.

[Buckets]

LOL.

[Bomber]

And cheap

[crabman]

What did she buy?

[Denver]

I'm guessing bc iron. Fmg will be spewing as they use bc's stuff in the blend I'm pretty sure.

As for cloudbreak. Foods a bit meh atm. Has its moments. It's getting fucking hot. It was fucking windy last week. Camp is good otherwise. Two pools. Third gym is getting fitted out atm. Store. Pub. Not as many hot cleaners as there used to be. Morris must have put a woman into hr.

[2LMILK]

Denver more like they pay them shit all for 2/1 so they just quit

[vy ss ute m6]

I'm guessing bc iron. Fmg will be spewing as they use bc's stuff in the blend I'm pretty sure.


Nope. BC is not part of the current major blend. CB/CC/Sol OPF's only.

[skidkid]

Denver more like they pay them shit all for 2/1 so they just quit

They get paid shit on all sites

[Denver]

Nope. BC is not part of the current major blend. CB/CC/Sol OPF's only.

Goes in FMG trains. One would assume it ends up in the same stock piles at port.

[vy ss ute m6]

Goes in FMG trains. One would assume it ends up in the same stock piles at port. I can assure you it's stacked on a separate stockpile. BCI is shipped to it's own customers and is not part of FMG's own products, it's also excluded from FMG official shipped tonnes as it's third party ore (I.e the 155 target is FMG spec ore only, actual shipped tonnes target is north of 160Mtpa)

[1SPRINT]

I can assure you it's stacked on a separate stockpile. BCI is shipped to it's own customers and is not part of FMG's own products, it's also excluded from FMG official shipped tonnes as it's third party ore (I.e the 155 target is FMG spec ore only, actual shipped tonnes target is north of 160Mtpa)

^^ what he said

[forde]

Anyone at Wheatstone? Got my medical in the morning so should be up there soon.

[mr_mike]

Just read a news report that the sea wall has collapsed up at Koola island, 2km long pit is under water now

[-Luke-]

Thats a shame, I worked up there a couple of years ago. MGI where really working to get that pit back up and running at full steam. Job was a shit show, but it was a beautiful part of the world to work in.

[mr_mike]

Rich deposit but a tumbling ore price and being the 2nd time was has failed this year. I bet there is a few nervous people up there.

[TJ]

Digger operator required, must have scuba license

[Bomber]

Fish and chips night every night!

[magic1]

koolan

[j3rk]

Anyone at Wheatstone? Got my medical in the morning so should be up there soon.

I'll be floating in and out, roster from Sept onwards. What you doing up there?

[forde]

Electrician.

[Greg Rust]

REL will have some work dewatering that pit.

[Bomber]

Word getting out it is imminent that Cloudbreak will be put on care and maintenance very soon to reduce FMG's cost from $71/T to $65/T. There's a shit load of folks gonna be looking for work when you combine the folks from MGI Koolan Island...

[thommo]

Fark, never a nice thing to see people being put out of work.

That ore price just keeps dropping and dropping currently at $68.80US a tonne

[Denver]

Word getting out it is imminent that Cloudbreak will be put on care and maintenance very soon to reduce FMG's cost from $71/T to $65/T. There's a shit load of folks gonna be looking for work when you combine the folks from MGI Koolan Island...

You mean the independent anal-ist report that hit the media today. Must have been a slow news day. http://m.watoday.com.au/business/mining-and-resources/fortescue-metals-group-rumoured-to-be-reviewing-possible-cloudbreak-mine-closure-20141127-11vjbm.html

We're actually on cost or better than Christmas creek and Solomon ton for ton. And the cost is no where near 71 a ton any more. And a couple weeks ago nev power was quoted as saying its costing fmg on average 45 bucks a ton shipped plus the debt loading of 6-7 bucks a ton. At $52 a ton to produce I can't see them shutting down cloudbreak any time soon.

And if by some chance they did. They'd get rid of contractors at cc/sol and shift cloudbreak people around Id imagine.

Management has already told us the report is utter horse shit.

Hopefully they're not lying.

[1SPRINT]

Word getting out it is imminent that Cloudbreak will be put on care and maintenance very soon to reduce FMG's cost from $71/T to $65/T. There's a shit load of folks gonna be looking for work when you combine the folks from MGI Koolan Island...


Its all bullshit, I work at Cloudbreak and have for the past 7 years these rumors come around at the same time every year. Only once 2 years ago they tightened the purse strings and offered redundancies and laid contractors off, at the moment it's business as usual.

[2LMILK]

Wouldn't have the Xmas party if it was as bad as the media says it is.
In saying that who is going to the Xmas party 6th December for cloudbreak. I'll see ya there.

[morgazmatron]

Ill be there on the 6th but from CC..

I doubt they would start closing mines.. But then again i guess it all depends on how low the ore price goes..

Redundos have already started from Maccas and Downer.. So FMG's should start soon as well.. Would hate to be contracting to them atm :(..

[SK]

ill also be at the FMG christmas party on the 6th :)

had a whole bunch of supervisors, super nintendos etc from cloudbreak up here at solomon yesterday, not too sure why.

[TJ]

ill also be at the FMG christmas party on the 6th :)

had a whole bunch of supervisors, super nintendos etc from cloudbreak up here at solomon yesterday, not too sure why.

Trying to find them jobs when they close CB

[2LMILK]

should all catch up at the Xmas party then.

FMG issued a statement that went along with the lines of "its bullshit"

end of day CB is owned by FMG, CC and SM will just cut all contractors and send full time CB over there. Simple

[Denver]

That's what we're telling ourselves anyway.

[vy ss ute m6]

CB will go to high grade only before it's put on hold, even though that will completely root the long term mine plan. It currently makes up a critical portion of the biggest selling blend FMG has, so canning it completely has far bigger ramifications for the company than just redundancies. Seems the break even price is a bit lower than analysts have predicted, I wouldn't be surprised if there are a few pieces of dead wood and supernumerary positions cut loose over the next few weeks but it'll take a price a bit lower than current to force a repeat of 2012

[1SPRINT]

ill also be at the FMG christmas party on the 6th :)

had a whole bunch of supervisors, super nintendos etc from cloudbreak up here at solomon yesterday, not too sure why.

Its a new program that they're running for all supervisors across the business to go and see how each operates. They also went to port and rail, I have to do at some stage.
I'll be going on the 13th

[TJ]

HV Electrician with dewatering experience... if you are one, get at me.

Day time only, not a bad gig.

http://www.seek.com.au/job/27732620

[HotAe92]

http://www.miningaustralia.com.au/news/epa-refuses-to-assess-new-iron-ore-mine-in-wa

Not sure if any of you had been following this or vaguely care but the decision by the OEPA yesterday, on what has been at times a public and contentious approval, has to be one of the most important by the agency to date.

*A win for the WA environment and future generations.

I'm all for mining and development, indeed the industry has been good to me, but there has to be a line drawn somewhere - otherwise what's the point of having an authority like the EPA.


*Pending Ministerial decision in Jan 2015.

[Greg Rust]

Laughed my arse off today walking through the gate at Tronox.

A guy is riding his shift fitters three wheeled bike up to the gate to meet his wife and she's absolutely pissing herself laughing at this bloke and his bike, poor girl had no idea and is calling him a poof.

[TJ]

Before I go to the general market

Samplers - 6 months work guaranteed, might lead to more but no promises.

Fit, healthy, previous experience a must.

8/6 roster day only FIFO Perth.

~$36 p/h, very good in the current climate. Blue chip company. Good site.

If you are interested, or have friends keen for work, get at me before 10am tomorrow.

[S133LTR]

$36prhr has become good money for for FIFO work now??! I dont think I have met a contractor working for under $45 for years.

[_S9_]

$74k/year (40hr normal week converted) is good money for FIFO now? Fuck.

[American Dave]

Welcome to the new economy

[TJ]

I spoke to a woman being paid 30 dollars an hour to drive a truck, she has 25 others with her on the same rate.

This is an entry level role, others are being paid closer to 30 for the same so yeah, it is good going.

[vy ss ute m6]

It's a sampler - not exactly a skilled role. Too many retards expecting big $$$ these days for un-skilled roles - it's $74k for working 6 months of the year!

[mr_mike]

yeah $74k for working half a year with no skills sounds pretty fuckin good to me

[Lmx]

Had to happen eventually.

[S133LTR]

8/6 at 36hr is closer to 90k pr yr (assuming a 12 hr day)

I see your point though.. Im used to working with qualified guys who wouldnt even look at money like that to work FIFO.

[Damo 69]

they will soon,

as said above the new economy, unless you are on a CCI/greenfields agreement site the cash is not what it used to be.

cant wait to have my site uplift cut

[S133LTR]

yeah $74k for working half a year with no skills sounds pretty fuckin good to me

Thats what everyone says until they snatch it after 6mths cause they cant handle the travel/seperation/isolation/hrs..

[mr_mike]

Thats what everyone says until they snatch it after 6mths cause they cant handle the travel/seperation/isolation/hrs..

Exactly why i have never gone for a FIFO job, I like coming home each night/weekend been tempted by the money but I can do the same hours here and make good money.

[S133LTR]

So it doesnt actually sound good to you then?

[Brett_J]

Know a few unskilled guys doing stuff up on site for that kind of money, plenty people will line up for that money when they'll be on 18/hr locally.

[Damo 69]

Know a few unskilled guys doing stuff up on site for that kind of money, plenty people will line up for that money when they'll be on 18/hr locally.\

This, same reason with the ESS girls etc, they do it for "the shit pay of $60k a year as they will be on $35k a year in perth.

[Buckets]

Pay levels outside the big two are under significant pressure to stay stagnent and some sectors are having new contracts issued which sees them take pay cuts back to the reduced industry average.

The package for my Roy Hill gig would of been considered offensively low a few years back but all things considered in todays climate it's a decent package given the roster.

Boom and bust. Thats mining for you.

[2LMILK]

Laughed my arse off today walking through the gate at Tronox.

A guy is riding his shift fitters three wheeled bike up to the gate to meet his wife and she's absolutely pissing herself laughing at this bloke and his bike, poor girl had no idea and is calling him a poof.
I applied for a job with them yesterday. Hook a brother up hey lol

[TJ]

Iron ore price is $68/t ... sure people will keep paying the same as when it was $130/t

I just put on a girl at $33 for another entry role - about 90 plus super.

She is on 33k as a retail manager in Perth often working weekends etc

A lot of us forget how lucky we are to earn what we do

[Brett_J]

Iron ore price is $68/t ... sure people will keep paying the same as when it was $130/t

I just put on a girl at $33 for another entry role - about 90 plus super.

She is on 33k as a retail manager in Perth often working weekends etc

A lot of us forget how lucky we are to earn what we do

I went down 20k a year to do something I enjoy a lot more.
I have my trade to fall back on, but honestly I don't need fuck loads of money, I want it, but don't want to go through the shit to get it :)

[family guy]

Well on a lighter note with the iron price and share prices. We had John Schumann from Redgum at BC iron tonight for shift change. Better than a smack in the teeth I guess. "I was only 19"

[Greg Rust]

I applied for a job with them yesterday. Hook a brother up hey lol

I'm only a contractor but what job did you apply for as I might be able to help you with names and how the Ti02 proces works if you get an interview.

[2LMILK]

I'm only a contractor but what job did you apply for as I might be able to help you with names and how the Ti02 proces works if you get an interview.
http://seek.com.au/showjob.asp?jobid=27728212

[Greg Rust]

Ah that's Chandala, Russell Whiltshire used to be in that role. Tony Duthie is also in that area.

[Tocchi]

Thats what everyone says until they snatch it after 6mths cause they cant handle the travel/seperation/isolation/hrs..

i never really noticed this "people not coping" situation until i came into mining / started to look into it.
and that is with 6 years offshore experience, it isn't spoken about offshore, maybe in the last 2 years it has started ... which is strange as it's 4 to 10 weeks away at a time, at times.

[huggy_b]

Maybe a little more grown up and a little less yolo?

[DESAM8+PANIK]

Mining has changed a lot, some for good, but a lot for worse. I started in the mining scene in 1999, we all worked long hours, got paid well, no one hurt them selves, no one committed suicide, the rosters were long (I started in mining doing 7 weeks on 1 week off) isolation was putting the key in your pocket and an out of service tag on the steering wheel.

The point I am making is back in the day most workers had common sense (I know I know common sense is not that common) but as the years have gone on we have gone and wrapped our workers in cotton wool and treated everyone as the lowest common denominator. We have safety arseheads trying to out do their predecessors with even more retarded safety demands, and all it is doing is creating a "soft" work force. We are not promoting thinking in the workplace, we have 8/6 rosters that don't get me wrong are great for the family worker so really in total we have better conditions now, so I just don't understand how there is a problem with people taking their lives on site.

[S133LTR]

With regards to the suicide (which isn't what I was referring to when I said 'snatch it') I think a big part of it is the way that mining in this country is seen as easy big money.. people with no shift work/fifo experience are all keen as to grab their share of it but the reality is a lot of people are just not cut out for it.. they get in.. get the golden handcuffs on.. cant afford to get out.. it affects them mentaly.. bad things happen.

Tocchi my thoughts about the rigs vs the mines might be something along the lines that the rigs are still seen as hard work long swings and they also generally require experience to get into... where as more fresh guys are getting the 'freindlier' 8/6 or 2/1 rosters at mines sites but as I mentioned before.. its just not for everyone and that's where the turn over comes from..

I just find it frustrating that people (particularly in this state) with zero experience In mining feel they are qualified to speak negatively about it.

[DESAM8+PANIK]

Deffo agree with what you say Damo, and I think you hit the nail on the head with the mining vs offshore, they are long swings and usually look for well experienced people to fill those roles, thus no fly by nighters that have minimal experience chasing a good roster.

[S133LTR]

We have safety arseheads trying to out do their predecessors with even more retarded safety demands.
I resent this! I use my safety rep position purely to order in cool shit for the boys and dodge nightshift :p

[DESAM8+PANIK]

dude ... you're still a worker from the floor, not some dedicated safety crab that has no idea what its like to do the job :o

[S133LTR]

Haha should of used italics ;)

[-Luke-]

Mining has changed a lot, some for good, but a lot for worse. I started in the mining scene in 1999, we all worked long hours, got paid well, no one hurt them selves, no one committed suicide, the rosters were long (I started in mining doing 7 weeks on 1 week off) isolation was putting the key in your pocket and an out of service tag on the steering wheel.


I've also been in mining for a while (1997ish) and I have to disagree with your comments about suicides. They have always happened but ten years ago when nobody gave a shit about the ore prices of FMG's shares price they simply where not reported unless they where particularly spectacular

(Remember that shotfirer that blew himself up in the middle of a suburban street?)



Tocchi my thoughts about the rigs vs the mines might be something along the lines that the rigs are still seen as hard work long swings and they also generally require experience to get into...

I would love to see some states about suicide rates in the O&G industry, Im sure most people who have been in it for a while could remember more than one person going on R&R and not returning?

[huggy_b]

I would love to see some states about suicide rates in the O&G industry, Im sure most people who have been in it for a while could remember more than one person going on R&R and not returning?

Its higher than most people would expect. There have been quite a few attempts that don't make the news either (throwing themselves overboard etc) - you hear about it more during inductions these days.......O+G can be a weird little tight knit community, they don't like "outsiders".

[SimonR32]

Its higher than most people would expect. There have been quite a few attempts that don't make the news either (throwing themselves overboard etc) - you hear about it more during inductions these days.......O+G can be a weird little tight knit community, they don't like "outsiders".

You could say that suicide rates are higher than most people expect in general society as well.

Has anyone actually looked into the statistics of FIFO/O&G/normal society and seen if the rates are actually any higher or just only the FIFO stuff is getting reported?

[-Luke-]

if the rates are actually any higher or just only the FIFO stuff is getting reported?
This is pretty much my point, I don't ever recall seeing a report of an Ambo/Nurse/Cop/Militarty Personal (etc etc) committing suicide and it making the news.

*unless they are one active deployment and take out a bunch of others in the process.

[Damo 69]

Fifo is just a good whipping boy for the West Australian these days, creates online comments and banter, so anything to do with it they are all over it whether it be positive or negative.

[VFRegal]

Suicide used to never get reported. I worked at myer in the city during uni mid to late 90s and we had 1 or 2 jumpers a year go down the middle of the building. Lucky i was in tv hifi at the bottom.... Italics?

[SSICK]

They still don't report it. You will only hear about it on the grape vine.

Good friend is a paramedic....building jumpers and train jumpers happen quite often.

[thommo]

Suicides aren't generally reported at all and agree it's all on the grape vine as to who finds out. My sister (clinical psychologist) was saying with suicides it can have a bandwagon type effect on people which is obviously not good at all, possibly another reason they don't like to advertise it.

[mr_mike]

Was to be expected, 300 ppl made redundant at Koolan. Mine has gone to care and maintenance after sea wall collapsed 2 weeks ago.

I guess the 20 truck stands I painted and sent up there last month ain't gonna get much use lol

[crabman]

Have any pics come out yet of the pit after the seawall failed?

[mr_mike]

There was an aerial shot posted with the news artical

[-Luke-]

https://s.yimg.com/ea/img/-/141205/430479819-1a81t89.jpg?x=656&sig=4ie.Y_VkORPIkHPrIlEWag--

[millzy_88]

There'll be a few sharks and crocs in there now.

[TJ]

I was shown pics by an operator who came back from lunch for him and his team to watch it unfold in front of them. Wow is all I can say. Wouldn't let me get a copy though.

[crabman]

I was shown pics by an operator who came back from lunch for him and his team to watch it unfold in front of them. Wow is all I can say. Wouldn't let me get a copy though.

They guy needs to sell them to perthnow already so everyone can enjoy the carnage. Was there decent amount of equipment lost down there or was it all removed prior to the failure. I can't imagine that is an easy thing the fix.... At least the environmental rehab of the main pit is cheap now.