Broadband Packages - Whats best ?

[ben351]

Lads,

looking to get broadband on at home but currently dont have a house phone hooked up.

idealy id like a bundle package with broadband and home phone included but if i can get a cheap phone line rental from somewhere and then broadband elsewhere id look into that.

what do you guys reccomend ?

Optus currently have 120gig for 49 a month but 29 a month for line rental :(

[Justooon]

Go naked with iinet.

Use them at home and only have to pay the net bill.. no line rental. They do VOIP and internet packages but cannot confirm how good/bad VOIP is.

Check em out:
http://www.iinet.net.au/naked-dsl/plans.html

-edit: Because I cannot spell.

[satch]

Telstra use to have homeline budget for $20 bucks a month, and you could then have your internet with someone else.

These days though its not worthwhile your better off bundling them together. You just wont get the cost of quota by having them seperate anymore.

If your not keen on monthy phone line rental check out iinets naked plans but your upload is counted as quota too

[Frenchy]

Wouldn't touch Optus with a 10ft pole. Had ALOT of problems with them.
Im with vividwireless and its been great. Deals arent the 'best' ($75 for 25gig for example) but i have never had a problem with it. You can also pay to have VOIP for something like $10 a month.

www.vividwireless.com.au

Have a look on http://bc.whirlpool.net.au/ and see what are the best deals etc in your area. The forums have a heap of shit on there about good / bad experiences etc

[summoner]

on iinet naked dsl. Due to age of house/distance from exchange doesn't sync up brilliantly quick but the VOIP still works well. Be away on naked dsl plans the uploads count so if you're a torrent user who keeps ratios on private sites it might be worth just going to news groups instead. VOIP also means free local and national calls and cheap calls to mobiles/overseas (which is handy for us immigrants :p)

Dads is on iinets normal adsl2++ with VOIP and due to being closer to exchange gets good consistent speed.

I can also strongly recommend amnet and their naked dsl+voip service.

[summoner]

Have a look on http://bc.whirlpool.net.au/ and see what are the best deals etc in your area. The forums have a heap of shit on there about good / bad experiences etc

99% of the forum on there is just being people bitching about everything and anything and you need to sort through about 100 pages of bullshit before you find anything useful.

People tend to post more when they have something to complain about as those who are happy with the service are busy enjoying it.

[Frenchy]

99% of the forum on there is just being people bitching about everything and anything and you need to sort through about 100 pages of bullshit before you find anything useful.

People tend to post more when they have something to complain about as those who are happy with the service are busy enjoying it.

Yeah too true.
Hence why I said they have a heap of shit on there ;)

[j3rk]

It depends how much quota your going to hammer on the net.
I.e. I just went through the same thing setting my mother up in her home.
In short it's just as cheap to go telstra's lowest home phone plan ($21 a month) and then get broadband on that... and it's less effort.

For a low budget user naked does not work out cheaper due to the fact they want you to go on a minimum of $50 a month + iinet want $$ for voip / above that + renting buying/the phone ($269 outright for the bob or $10 to rent per month). Then it's $70 a month setup unless you go on a $70 a month plan.
So you end up on minimum $70 a month with iinet naked for a whole 5/5gig plan.

Amnet will let you on naked for $50 a month, but there are still setup fee's etc associated... Also the naked plans are relatively $20 a month more expensive then the adsl ones. So you could go on amnets $29 a month for 5/7gig and have telstra for the same price as $50 a month to amnet... no difference really.

E.g. For myself at my house I just changed to $21 telstra home phone deal and amnet's $69 a month net at 60/90. Relatively I could pay amnet $89 a month for naked dsl with the same dl limit... still undecided if I will or not.

[ben351]

mainly downloading shows and movies and music so minimum 50gig + what ever off peak

[Brockas]

Optus currently have 120gig for 49 a month but 29 a month for line rental :(
That's exactly what we're going to now, but with 150gb (same price).

Optus have always been quality for us, and never had a problem with me downloading movies / shows etc.


We rang up to cancel and go with Westnet, but Optus just kept offering us a better deal until we stayed with them. Ended up with 150gb + home phone for $70 a month on a month by month contract that we can change at any time.

Shows you how much they screw the average person who rings up if they can afford to do that.

[ben351]

yeah they are leading the race at the minute ... might give them a call and see what the go is.

[DTM-031]

just remember with naked plans, you still need the phone connected to start with. so you'll be up for $59-$299 to get the phone connected, and then all your normal dsl setup fees :)

[Brockas]

FYI - Anyone with Optus and out of contract, ring up and threaten to bail.


They will throw ANYTHING at you to keep you.

[ben351]

i might ring them and say ill join ... no wiat im gonna bail ... then see what they say lol

[Mad_Aussie]

I'm with iinet naked and haven't had any problems with them. In fact they recently bumped me up to 60g peak/60g off-peak for no reason... I do recommend them, however it would be nice if they offered extra data blocks like
Internode.

[Fukushima]

telstra budget / amnet owns, seriously

i'll tell you why later

[cplagz]

Naked DSL
Amnet, iiNet, Westnet or Internode.

/end thread

[RICEY]

Im currently with internode on a $49 20gb plan 1.5mb

Dont completely understand this naked thing but keen to fuck telstra and their line rental off. Someone explain it to me and is it available everywhere?

[Fukushima]

naked just means you pay someone $20 a month to not have a phone line
and you have to get one hooked up before you can go naked

anyways I have the telstra budget homeline $19.95 cos if anything goes wrong including low internet speeds I ring telstra and tell them the line is crackling and they fix it, not ring iprimus or optus who then have to ring telstra and then get telstra refusing to fix it because the internet still works even if you are getting a 3rd of the speed you got last week.

and then i've been with amnet for years and almost left because their pricing was too much but in the last week they updated plans again so I downgraded:

for $39 i get 15gig peak, 35 off peak (includes all weekend), and double that peering (waix traffic). I used to pay $79 for 30/45 so this is pretty damn good.

but its the service you get from amnet that makes the difference, you can pick up the phone and call them and be speaking to a real person from perth who most often knows how to fix your problem right away, no waiting on hold or singapore call center bullshit.

[Fukushima]

oh and i forgot amnet shaping speed is 128k... and the $49 plan is 45+65, and the $59 plan is 55+75 and gets you 256k shaping

[6LtrJet]

iprimus - big kahuna home adsl2+
65gb peak + 65gb off peak
$46.oo per month (got this price after threatening to jump ship - small saving off advertised price)

combined with telstra home budget line cost only
$19.90 per month

i also have a 3 mobile broadband dongle
7gb a month
$29.90 per month (got this price after threatening to not renew, i was paying $49 per month for 6gb)

combined with

2gb of data included in my $29.oo per month 3Gs iphone plan
(got 1gb extra after threatening to jump ship)

[Brute]

iprimus - big kahuna home adsl2+
65gb peak + 65gb off peak
$46.oo per month (got this price after threatening to jump ship - small saving off advertised price)

combined with telstra home budget line cost only
$19.90 per month

i also have a 3 mobile broadband dongle
7gb a month
$29.90 per month (got this price after threatening to not renew, i was paying $49 per month for 6gb)

combined with

2gb of data included in my $29.oo per month 3Gs iphone plan
(got 1gb extra after threatening to jump ship)

And you still get shaped halfway through the month why???

Pregnant amputee abo dwarf porn that good is it?

[Fukushima]

cool, what are the speeds like with iprimus?

i used them about 5 years ago just hated the service

[BASSULA]

I'm on iinet naked with voip...

and didnt have a phone connected prior to getting it hooked up. I'm pretty sure so long as there has been a phone line in the house at some stage you should be ok.

am happy with iinet. plus they just upped all their plans at no cost.. whinnar

[jzx81mx83]

I was with iinet and they were great highly recomend them the only down side with them when i moved the exchange that my phone line is conected to all the iinet ports are full any ways i rang optus and am now getting a adsl 2+ connection for $69.99 for up to 20mbs and 150gb downloads a month and no line rental as optus have naked dsl as well.


cheers nick

[MMM]

naked just means you pay someone $20 a month to not have a phone line
and you have to get one hooked up before you can go naked

anyways I have the telstra budget homeline $19.95 cos if anything goes wrong including low internet speeds I ring telstra and tell them the line is crackling and they fix it, not ring iprimus or optus who then have to ring telstra and then get telstra refusing to fix it because the internet still works even if you are getting a 3rd of the speed you got last week.

and then i've been with amnet for years and almost left because their pricing was too much but in the last week they updated plans again so I downgraded:

for $39 i get 15gig peak, 35 off peak (includes all weekend), and double that peering (waix traffic). I used to pay $79 for 30/45 so this is pretty damn good.

but its the service you get from amnet that makes the difference, you can pick up the phone and call them and be speaking to a real person from perth who most often knows how to fix your problem right away, no waiting on hold or singapore call center bullshit.
x2

Im with amnet on the $59 can't be happier. But im going to downgrade because i can't get anywhere near the download limits.

[6LtrJet]

And you still get shaped halfway through the month why???

Pregnant amputee abo dwarf porn that good is it?

CP requires serious bandwidth.....

[Dagon]

iiNet, because they're the ones that fight for your right to download anything you want in court. iiNet and Internode have been very active in the courts and the political scene over the last few years trying to Conroy's filter out. This alone made me go with them... as well as the fact that I know they're decent all-rounders.


I'm with iinet naked and haven't had any problems with them. In fact they recently bumped me up to 60g peak/60g off-peak for no reason... I do recommend them, however it would be nice if they offered extra data blocks like Internode. In the same boat, was on 30/30 before and now on 60/60 ^_^


Naked DSL
Amnet, iiNet, Westnet or Internode.

/end threadThis. These four have the best plans, the best service, the best price, and they don't try to rip you off.
I was a tech freelancer for a many years... Optarse and Telstra were the bane of my existence, but you rarely ever had trouble with these guys.

[_S9_]

Important information for everyone pimping Naked plans w/ iiNet.

THEY COUNT UPLOADS.

Therefore real world quota = not published quota.

Oh and in 90% of cases. The "Naked" plans with ISP's are just the same as their other plans with a $20 increase.

WHY PAY $20/month to HAVE NO DIAL TONE in case of emergency?
(power goes out, oh shit no homephone send halp)

[SimonR32]

im on iinet naked dsl

60/60gb limit and they keep upping it all the time :)

[cplagz]

Important information for everyone pimping Naked plans w/ iiNet.

THEY COUNT UPLOADS.

Therefore real world quota = not published quota.

Oh and in 90% of cases. The "Naked" plans with ISP's are just the same as their other plans with a $20 increase.

WHY PAY $20/month to HAVE NO DIAL TONE in case of emergency?
(power goes out, oh shit no homephone send halp)

So what? Uploads are only an issue if you're a torrent noob.

You also neglect to mention the fact iiNet Naked includes unlimited national VoIP calling.

[protecon]

Amnet ADSL2+ $89 per month
80GB onpeak / 140GB offpeak international + double that for WAIX = potential 660GB per month (free static IP too). Upload not counted. Offpeak is midnight to 6am during the week plus all day Saturday and Sunday.

[Dagon]

Pity there's no such thing as WAIX though...

[Dagon]

Important information for everyone pimping Naked plans w/ iiNet. THEY COUNT UPLOADS. Therefore real world quota = not published quota. Errno, real world quota = real world quota. They don't pretend to not count uploads.

Amnet and the ones that don't count uploads are awesome, have great prices, and great support... I just want to give my money to the company that's sticking up for my 'net rights, is all... otherwise I would have gone with Amnet, because in terms of $/gb, they're unbeatable =)

[Mister Two]

TPG. $69 pm. 200GB quota per month. 100GB on peak. 100GB off peak. Static IP

[ben351]

so this naked stuff seems popular ... what are the start up fee's ?

is there anything that needs to be brought to set up my pc to run naked dsl ?!

[cplagz]

so this naked stuff seems popular ... what are the start up fee's ?

is there anything that needs to be brought to set up my pc to run naked dsl ?!

Only if you dont have a xDSL modem or want VoIP and don't have a VoIP capable modem already.

[ben351]

marc ... speak Ben terms please ... whats a VoIP ?

as the phone line is in my kitchen im guessing i will need wireless set up so i can have the PC in my bedroom ?

[_S9_]

So what? Uploads are only an issue if you're a torrent noob.
A 1gb torrent downloaded at 1:1 ratio is 2gb quota used. Or are you one of those chumps who never seed back?


Pity there's no such thing as WAIX though...
Yes there is.


Errno, real world quota = real world quota.
You missed the point, read above.

[DTM-031]

marc ... speak Ben terms please ... whats a VoIP ?

as the phone line is in my kitchen im guessing i will need wireless set up so i can have the PC in my bedroom ?


have you got a phone line connected atm? if not, has the house had a phone line before?

[ben351]

well there is a phone line there so im guessing yes

[DTM-031]

$59-$125 to connect the phone line ($59 if standard, $125 if tech visit required), then $150 to connect the Naked DSL - or 24 month contract brings it down to $80 (this is with iiNet). then a dsl modem which you can pick up for like $60-$70

[DTM-031]

or with amnet, same cost for the phone line, but its free naked connection if you go 24 month contract

iinet 50 + 50 $69.95
amnet 45 + 65 $68.95

[cplagz]

A 1gb torrent downloaded at 1:1 ratio is 2gb quota used. Or are you one of those chumps who never seed back?


Like I said, torrents are for noobs so I don't even bother using them, far more efficient and effective ways to get what you want a lot quicker and with a lot less risk if you know how.

[DanWA]

For VOIP www.engin.com.au is win $15 unlimited local/std calls

I'm on Bigpond 50GB ADSL2+ normally $109.95 a month but discounted to $89.95 due to mobile/home line

Only choice for ADSL2+ in Collie unfortunately

[summoner]

Important information for everyone pimping Naked plans w/ iiNet.

THEY COUNT UPLOADS.

Therefore real world quota = not published quota.

Oh and in 90% of cases. The "Naked" plans with ISP's are just the same as their other plans with a $20 increase.

WHY PAY $20/month to HAVE NO DIAL TONE in case of emergency?
(power goes out, oh shit no homephone send halp)

L2newsgroup
Get a mobile phone or if that has no signal stop living in the sticks.
$20 increase.. well worked out with the free local/national calls and cheaper calls over seas im saving much more than $20.

Also a few of us have mentioned uploads count before *shrugs*
It isn't for everyone but I for 1 am very happy with it so far.

[Dagon]

A 1gb torrent downloaded at 1:1 ratio is 2gb quota used. Or are you one of those chumps who never seed back?A 1gb torrent is a 1gb torrent. A 1:1 ratio isn't required, it just means you're a good guy. Why SHOULD you get uploads for free?

The only times I'll be downloading something is when it's something like 19k seeders and 2k leechers, which at that stage it's not only *hard* to get a 1:1 ratio, but doesn't make fucking sense to waste your bandwidth on something that's widely available anyway.

Unless it's a niche-interest sort of thing with only a few seeds/leechers, in which case you'll find me with with down:up ratio of about 1:3.

[_S9_]

L2newsgroup
Get a mobile phone or if that has no signal stop living in the sticks.

Moot point: After the giant hailstorms, Vodafone kept dropping calls in my neighborhood. I was forced to use a home phone.


$20 increase.. well worked out with the free local/national calls and cheaper calls over seas im saving much more than $20.

*cough* Mobile cap plans?
$9 voip plans (there are hundreds of providers)


Like I said, torrents are for noobs so I don't even bother using them, far more efficient and effective ways to get what you want a lot quicker and with a lot less risk if you know how.
Rapidshare/nzbget/dc++ = debatable


A 1gb torrent is a 1gb torrent. A 1:1 ratio isn't required, it just means you're a good guy. Why SHOULD you get uploads for free?

The only times I'll be downloading something is when it's something like 19k seeders and 2k leechers, which at that stage it's not only *hard* to get a 1:1 ratio, but doesn't make fucking sense to waste your bandwidth on something that's widely available anyway.

You're obviously not a member of private torrent sites which require you to maintain a ratio. Why not share for the good of the community when you have available upstream bandwidth?

I digress.


My main point was; why pay $20/month for naked plan to get LESS service than you would with having an unused landline.

[Dagon]

Like I said, torrents are for noobs so I don't even bother using them, far more efficient and effective ways to get what you want a lot quicker and with a lot less risk if you know how.Rapidshare/nzbget/dc++ = debatableThere IS far more efficient and effective ways to get what you want, but they're not it.
You're obviously not a member of private torrent sites which require you to maintain a ratio. Why not share for the good of the community when you have available upstream bandwidth?I am, and I do, and if you read the very next sentence you would have seen that =P
My main point was; why pay $20/month for naked plan to get LESS service than you would with having an unused landline.While I agree that it's not for everyone, sometimes you might be living with someone that abuses landline privileges, for example. Having a landline at all in a share house tends to cause a problem, however large or small, when the bill comes it. I'd rather have the temptation removed. But as I said, it's not for everyone.

[Miami]

at the risk of getting flamed.... I'm with Dodo, 69.95/month ADSL2+naked - 20Gb peak/100Gb off-peak (off peak is 12 hours btw, not just 6 hours like some ISPs!!). Yes uploads are counted towards quota. If you go over the peak quota, you get shaped during peak only, with the option to buy more data...ditto if you go over the off-peak, peak doesnt get slowed down.

12 month contract only - I wasnt sure how lng we'll be in our current place. Seem to remember getting some deal with no setup fee also.

We get reasonable speed considering where we are, and I have had very little dropout/issues in 6+ months I've been with them. When I enquired with iiNet at the time, they said they couldnt provide us with a ADSL2+ connection in our location.

went naked mainly cos we both have mobiles, no family OS to need cheap calls, and so we had no need for a landline, all it does is attract sales calls anyways :)

and it worked out cheaper than other combo packages with the same data that bundled home lines.

GFs brother lives on the same street, so had trouble finding ADSL2+ connections also, just signed himself up to this - http://www.comparebroadband.com.au/offer_355_ADSL2+-Platinum-100GB-Dodo-metro-broadband-plan-%28+-monthly-phone-line-rental%29-No-contract-term.htm
EDIT - just saw Dodo are advertising all of their plans as being charged at 18c/MB once you exceed quota, no longer shaped. Have double-checked my TOA, and they havent changed.

[Autopilot]

~Thread revival, Anyone using TPG for their broadband service? I'm thinking of dumping iinet because their upload count is killing my ratio's on private trackers. TPG's naked unlimited plan for $70 p/m looks good but I'm concerned that they throttle torrents and the lack of published fine print makes the whole unlimited internet thing sound a bit dubious to me.

[[SPESHAL]]

I'm on unlimited ADSL 2+ for $59 a month. No issues so far with throttling of torrents or anything like that (well after two weeks).

[Matty180]

~Thread revival, Anyone using TPG for their broadband service? I'm thinking of dumping iinet because their upload count is killing my ratio's on private trackers. TPG's naked unlimited plan for $70 p/m looks good but I'm concerned that they throttle torrents and the lack of published fine print makes the whole unlimited internet thing sound a bit dubious to me.

Im with TPG unlimited. I wasnt convinced on their "unlimited" plan.. But 400GB in a month. Cant complain!

[NVIOUS]

been a happy iinet customer, naked plan $69.95 for 75GB peak + 75GB offpeak. No more line rentals & g/f can call home for long as she likes. Upload count has never bothered me & so far custom service has been great, wouldnt hesitate to use them again

[mantou]

I just switched over to iinet today. Currently paying $89.95 for 100gb on peak/100gb off peak bundled with home phone (line rental etc included)

[mod]

IInet nude 100/100 for $69 + $10 voip and it works great - voip is clear and crisp tho we dont use it much so might disconnect it end of the year.

been on iinet naked since 1st day it came out, never saw a reason why we should pay $30 for line rentals.

Naked speeds only goes to 12mbt or 8mbt I think but we live so far from exchange we it only sync at 4mbt which is alright imo.

will be on fibre to home when iinet bring it out in WA

[Dagon]

iiNude 100/100 for $70 here. Who does TPG buy their bandwidth from? Since Telstra/Optus/Primus/a couple of others I haven't heard are going to be implementing the filter soon, I'd be worried about where the TPG data is going through.

[protecon]

Still with Amnet purely because of the "up to a month" offline churn to TPG.
Currently on $99/mo for 450GB non-peered and 900GB peering.

Probably the best thing about Amnet is consistency with almost zero downtime and no speed problems.

[Jaak]

Ok so I am potentially moving to a new home in Roleystone around here:

http://i46.tinypic.com/n1dnxv.jpg


So I am looking for a new service provider, I am with vivid atm, but they suck! And I want a hard-line ADSL2+
any good plans you can suggest for this area? , as hardcore as possible (unlimited, quick, under $99, etc)

[Madhav]

Am on tpg and have been for over a year.

Unlimited is awesome. Do it.

I download torrents all day and have never ha any problems.

[cactus]

Westnet are good ... $89 including line rental (cant get naked where I am) for ADSL 2+ and I get 100gig on and 100gig off.

[jr]

if anyone signs up with amnet let me know first so you can put me down as a referrer! If I get the bonus there's a carton in it for you!

[Azrian]

Where i am i cant only get adsl 1 and even vivid works like shit. Im in Aubin Grove. Apparently people have been lobbying for years to telstra and still nothing. Yet 100m away the house can get adsl+2. Shit me to tears.

Is there anything else out there?

[Alt_F4]

Thread revival.

Vivid is going down the toilet, so finally moving over to a landline.
Seeing as there is very little brownfield fibre available in Perth, it looks like it's good ol' ADSL for me.

What's the ISP of choice? Iinet?
Area is 6024 if that helps.

[Lonewolf]

still with and happy with iinet personally
only get 5mb/s download but thats due to distance from the exchange

[GhostFc3s]

I am with TPG at the moment and they are shithouse telstra service dude believes its because im so far from exchange.
I have telstra cable running past my house but their plans are rather expensive compared with TPG, the cheapest plan i could get into is around $100 a month. Is there any 3rd party retails of telstra cable? Any other ideas because TPG is killing me.

[Lonewolf]

nah telstra own the cable, no resellers

[Nugs]

still with and happy with iinet personally
only get 5mb/s download but thats due to distance from the exchange
Same.