More unwanted attention

[duste]

POLICE have charged four people - including two P-plate drivers - after two street racing events overnight.

The first race occurred on Mandurah Rd, Secret Harbour, at 11pm last night, when police followed and pulled over two vehicles racing at speeds of up to 160km/h in a 100km/h zone.

As a result a 32-year-old Karnet woman was charged with reckless driving and a 20-year-old Warnbro man, who was on P-plates, was charged with reckless driving and driving under the influence of alcohol.

Both cars were seized and will be held for 28 days under the hoon legislation.

At 1.30am today, in Padbury, Hillarys police pulled over two high-performance Club Special Holden Commodores which were racing at speeds up to 158km/h on the northbound lanes of the Mitchell Freeway.

A 23-year-old P-plate driver was charged with reckless driving and driving with a blood-alcohol level in excess of 0.02. It was his second hooning offence.

A 32-year-old man was also charged with reckless driving and both cars were seized.
- http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western-australia/four-face-hoon-charges-after-street-races/story-e6frg13u-1225869447641

Cheers, thanks guys.

[TJ]

Picking more on club special commodores is good for most people here.

[mitchy]

i wish my car had a long winded name like "high-performance Club Special Holden Commodore", makes it sound half decent!

[dmwill]

speeds up to 158km/h

Very spot on there!


23 y/o P-plater? Probably not his first time he has been on his Ps I'm guessing.

[YOUR MATE]

My commodore isnt a club special : (

[kurbn]

Its one of the risks you take for giving your car shit, kinda over all this hoon crap. I just dont care anymore. Pick your spots better and dont draw attention to yourself and you wont have a problem.

Giving it shit on the fwy is the same as dropping a skid in the main street of Perth, you are kidding yourself if you think you are going to get away with it. It amazes me on cruises how people open it up on the fwy.. balls of steel

[Bridantay]

how does one join this special club?

[beatle]

anyone else notice the extreme contradiction in that?
first its a woman and a 20 yr old then a man and 23yr old
also, if its his 2nd offence, 3 months

[Joe]

You need to own a Club Special to join the Special Club.

You can then become a High-Performance Club Special Special Club Member.

[Anaru]

You need to own a Club Special to join the Special Club.

You can then become a High-Performance Club Special Special Club Member.

Word

http://www.csulb.edu/~kmacd/361-6-Ch1_files/Down%27s%20syndromeI.jpg

[Tocchi]

My commodore isnt a club special : (

part of a special club though
http://www.swantaxis.com.au/

[mitchy]

anyone else notice the extreme contradiction in that?
first its a woman and a 20 yr old then a man and 23yr old
also, if its his 2nd offence, 3 months

4 people, 2 seperate incidents.

[AGIT8D]

You need to own a Club Special to join the Special Club.

You can then become a High-Performance Club Special Special Club Member.

hahahahahah!!!

[j3rk]

Giving it shit on the fwy is the same as dropping a skid in the main street of Perth, you are kidding yourself if you think you are going to get away with it. It amazes me on cruises how people open it up on the fwy.. balls of steel

And your kidding yourself if you truely believe that. Exaggeration much?

[XF Falcon]

We should all thank the Running On Empty Car Club for another quality cruise result :slap:

[YOUR MATE]

Is special club like speed club? You pingpingpingpings and your cool circle keeping the rest of us out of all the clubs god dammit!


part of a special club though
http://www.swantaxis.com.au/

Pot/kettle/black you bastard.

[nang3]

well done media, only used 'hoon' or a derivative 8 times on that page!!

[kurbn]

And your kidding yourself if you truely believe that. Exaggeration much?

To do it at night time you may as well fuck without a party hat. It's pretty high risk

[kirbo]

Hoon used in correct context. Finally!

Fuck drink drivers, they are the worst of all road users and I hope your entire family die in a fire if you don't agree. There’s no excuse.

[Brockas]

I'm glad the drunk drivers got done.

[Rantopotamus]

If you have to...

I would say opening it up on a stretch of the freeway I know would be safer or "less risk" than anywhere else...

Speed up coming over this crest - slow down when coming up to a off ramp ect ect...

But I do not speed on public roads.

[Mad_Aussie]

would say opening it up on a stretch of the freeway I know would be safer or "less risk" than anywhere else...

Yeah, the freeway is the safest stretch of road in the state.. And for instance the new Forrest Hwy section is built to Euro motorway specifications.. i.e. 130-160kph speeds. The 100kph section is a joke, and most modern cars are designed to sit comfortably at 130 and over.

However, good work to the cops picking off the drunk drivers, but they need to do it properly. Fine them, and then two in the head and one in the chest.

[j3rk]

To do it at night time you may as well fuck without a party hat. It's pretty high risk
No... ignoring the fact thats the only way to party!


Yeah, the freeway is the safest stretch of road in the state.. And for instance the new Forrest Hwy section is built to Euro motorway specifications.. i.e. 130-160kph speeds. The 100kph section is a joke, and most modern cars are designed to sit comfortably at 130 and over.

However, good work to the cops picking off the drunk drivers, but they need to do it properly. Fine them, and then two in the head and one in the chest.
Winner! If your going to do it I would suggest that the freeway would be the safest place, for reasons above and from a vision point of view (can see dangers and cops... better than crappy perth backroads where pot holes can end you, your car or potentially have it taken off you.

[Scaf]

hahaha at high-performance Club Special Holden Commodores

[Torquen]

No... ignoring the fact thats the only way to party!

QFT :D :idb:

[shifted]

Has anyone ever seen a cop get done for illegal u-turns and speeding themselves? They pull probably the most illegal shit in front of road users.

[Mad_Aussie]

I commented on a coppers balding rear tyres in a coles carpark once... he almost gave me a move on order.

[mr_mike]

thank god the police picked up then special club commodore club perfomance drivers on the freeway last night, i was minding my own businees doin 80kph in the right hand lane and they came flying past me scared the daylights out of my poor wife in the passenger seat.

[dattoman]

What were you doing 80 on the freeway for ?... you menace

And why were you in the right lane ? ... roadhog

They should have thrown the book at YOU !!
Thats 2 offences you can get fined for


Oh... and there should be some italics in there somewhere maybe

[Anaru]

What were you doing 80 on the freeway for ?... you menace

And why were you in the right lane ? ... roadhog

They should have thrown the book at YOU !!
Thats 2 offences you can get fined for


Oh... and there should be some italics in there somewhere maybe

http://i846.photobucket.com/albums/ab24/0ompaLoompa/NotSureIfSerious.jpg

[fourseven]

Has anyone ever seen a cop get done for illegal u-turns and speeding themselves? They pull probably the most illegal shit in front of road users.

They are exempt from the Road Traffic Act if operational.

[DanWA]

There are exempt from everything

Even if they're wrong, they're right

[winstor]

Do we crush cars here in WA?

[shifted]

They shouldn't be unless in the event of an emergency, not just pulling an illegal u-turn, speeding up to someone, fining them, and then doing the same thing again to go back the way they were.

Yes, cars get crushed here, 3rd offence isn't it?

[ossie_21]

However, good work to the cops picking off the drunk drivers, but they need to do it properly. Fine them, and then two in the head and one in the chest.

Hardly their good work, they just got caught speeding & after the mandatory breath check they happened to be over the limit....

[mitchy]

They shouldn't be unless in the event of an emergency, not just pulling an illegal u-turn, speeding up to someone, fining them, and then doing the same thing again to go back the way they were.

Yes, cars get crushed here, 3rd offence isn't it?

how do you propose they pull someone over for say speeding, if they should be obeying the speed limit as per your theory?

[Saf]

Yeah, the freeway is the safest stretch of road in the state.. And for instance the new Forrest Hwy section is built to Euro motorway specifications.. i.e. 130-160kph speeds. The 100kph section is a joke, and most modern cars are designed to sit comfortably at 130 and over.

Its good to see that your still on the ball Aussie ... if only dickheads in suits who run this state would hear what you write.

FWY, 2x 1 way road, barriers, open unrestricted view - 100kph
Brookton hwy (only eg), trees and run-off's meters from the car at any time - 110kph

[shifted]

how do you propose they pull someone over for say speeding, if they should be obeying the speed limit as per your theory?

I just don't see why they should break the law for something as simple as speeding. I am sure another Police car can intercept the vehicle in question?

I understand they should be pulled over - I just don't see it as a circumstance where the Police need to break the law.

Freeway should be at least 130km/hr - but that 80km/hr zone would be a big issue.

[kurbn]

so the car they just saw doing 180km/hr in a 100km/hr zone, they turn the sirens on, accelerate to 100 and expect to catch him? You put your fkn boot into it!

[Lmx]

They are exempt from the Road Traffic Act if operational.

on/off duty still exempt..

[shifted]

so the car they just saw doing 180km/hr in a 100km/hr zone, they turn the sirens on, accelerate to 100 and expect to catch him? You put your fkn boot into it!

Yeah LOL doesn't work. :(

At least stop the illegal U-turns. :p

[mitchy]

lol, i can see toyota ownership has had severe side effects on your IQ level.

[shifted]

lol, i can see toyota ownership has had severe side effects on your IQ level.

Nah, had a Nissan 300ZX (Z31) first. That is probably what started it. Toyota ownership ever since then though with a Ford here or there, must be on its way up!

:p

[Tard Of War]

one thing i see them do to often is turn there lights and sirens on and charge through a set of lights then get through and turn them off and go speed limit..........what the fuck is that shit ? code 3 or gtfo

[Doctor Chimargo the Dog]

Hoon used in correct context. Finally!

Fuck drink drivers, they are the worst of all road users and I hope your entire family die in a fire if you don't agree. There’s no excuse.

Fiery words there! :D

[mehow2g]

Better inspect every Holden then people who dont know about cars couldnt tell the difference.

Anyway so when a person in a shitbox car hits a fucking house they arent called a hoon no they "lost control"

[beatle]

Its good to see that your still on the ball Aussie ... if only dickheads in suits who run this state would hear what you write.

FWY, 2x 1 way road, barriers, open unrestricted view - 100kph
Brookton hwy (only eg), trees and run-off's meters from the car at any time - 110kph

The fucked thing is, point that out to law makers and they would instead lower speed limits in those area's.

[kurbn]

Yeah LOL doesn't work. :(

At least stop the illegal U-turns. :p

If someone just broke the law, they need to tend to it as fast as possible, they are not going to pussy foot around to look where they can turn around. People winge they are not out there catching people breaking the law and then people winge they have to break a couple of road rules to do so, especially when they do it safely.

[shifted]

Understandable - but there are more heinous crimes to attend to than someone doing 10km/hr over the limit. IMO.

And there have been plenty of times I have seen a cop car approaching a set of traffic lights, and bang, lights and siren, pass through the red light, and turn it off 200m past the lights. This, while increasing speed and then decreasing it once they pass the lights - not right is it? Abusing the power much?

[fourseven]

The exemptions Police have on the road exist for a reason. The most obvious is that every car on the road in a district has an average of 3 jobs to attend per hour on a busy night. Response times even for jobs that don't require a priority 1 or 2 still matter.

I'd like to know why people have an issue with Police contravening traffic laws while they are operational.

[kurbn]

because its easy to point fingers when you're on the other side.

[Stef]

i agree with this whole come up to intersection, put party lights on, roar thru, then turn off. i fail to see how cops can do that. they are the one who are supposed to be enforcing the law.

what reason is there to do this please do tell!

[mr_mike]

seriously how many times have you honestly seen a cop car do that? Only time i can think of is in Superbad or Training Day.

10 years driving in Perth i can say i have never seen it.

way you guys are carrying on you would think every police car does it every single intersection they go thru.

[mitchy]

i agree with this whole come up to intersection, put party lights on, roar thru, then turn off. i fail to see how cops can do that. they are the one who are supposed to be enforcing the law.

what reason is there to do this please do tell!

gotta get to maccas before breakfast finishes.

[kurbn]

seriously how many times have you honestly seen a cop car do that? Only time i can think of is in Superbad or Training Day.

10 years driving in Perth i can say i have never seen it.

way you guys are carrying on you would think every police car does it every single intersection they go thru.

Ditto.. been here 10 years. Never seen it happen

[Stef]

ive seen it, doesnt always happen though. i do recall late on night on my way home (was in beckenham at the time) cop has gone through the lights with his lights on, and then turned them off. had mum in the car and it left us both dumbfounded.. not like as if its a job theyre going to, otherwise they wouldnt have turned them off..

[magic1]

ive seen it, doesnt always happen though. i do recall late on night on my way home (was in beckenham at the time) cop has gone through the lights with his lights on, and then turned them off. had mum in the car and it left us both dumbfounded.. not like as if its a job theyre going to, otherwise they wouldnt have turned them off..

I have rarely seen cops break the road rules, except for just about always doing 10 over. I think its fair game when the lights come on that the police have the right to break the road rules.

[mr_mike]

so ur basing ur whole argument on this one time late at night in Beckenham so i'm assuming a quiet area and cops drove thru some lights?

Shit late at night before (3-4am) i have driven thru red lights on deserted streets, always slowing down and checking both way first mind you doesnt mean i shoot every red light in peak hour traffic.

Ppl seem to be getting hung up on police breaking the road rules while on duty, u'd be fuming if there was some one in ur house with family all bailed up and the cops couldnt get there when asked why and they replied " oh sorry we could find a designated U turn area".
Cops off duty still have to obey the road rules a guy from works who's x was a cop got castrated one day by 2 TEG cops from another station cos she shot an orange light. Reported to her superiors and everythin.

[sam5709]

I have rarely seen cops break the road rules, except for just about always doing 10 over. I think its fair game when the lights come on that the police have the right to break the road rules.

Agreed, In one instance i was in the back of a police car and they were sitting on about 118 according the the digital dash display in a fg whilst on the freeway, all the way from Currumbine to the city lol

[mr_mike]

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/1/14/129079445653837507.jpg

[Stef]

so ur basing ur whole argument on this one time late at night in Beckenham so i'm assuming a quiet area and cops drove thru some lights?

Shit late at night before (3-4am) i have driven thru red lights on deserted streets, always slowing down and checking both way first mind you doesnt mean i shoot every red light in peak hour traffic.

Ppl seem to be getting hung up on police breaking the road rules while on duty, u'd be fuming if there was some one in ur house with family all bailed up and the cops couldnt get there when asked why and they replied " oh sorry we could find a designated U turn area".
Cops off duty still have to obey the road rules a guy from works who's x was a cop got castrated one day by 2 TEG cops from another station cos she shot an orange light. Reported to her superiors and everythin.

regardless if it was a quiet area or not, i still fail to see why they do it? im not perfect myself but i can def say ive never run a red when the road is deadset clear in the middle of the night. yeh if theres a a job that ciomes thru on the radio, ok fine lights go on and you do what you have to to get to the job, its justified. but if its not so important, why do it? if off duty cops have to obey road rules, why dont on duty cops? do you see ambos, firies, rac, security guards do it?

[TJ]

You do know that some jobs dont require them to have lights and sirens the whole way, but still may need them to get there a little faster than just sitting at set of lights for 30 seconds?

[Stef]

in the middle of the night there is no way a set of lights will stay red for 30 seconds. traffic light intersections have different setups for different times of day/types of traffic. ie during the day on say albany hwy and kelvin road, there are no right turn lights, which go on at peak hour both morning and afternoon, as well as midday for a certain period of time. at night, competely different story, if you pull up to the lights and no one else is there, i can bet that you will wait there a maximum of ten seconds. obviously a high priority job will see cops clockin big speeds, lights and sirens blazing, (ie break in) and low priority jobs (ie noise disturbance at 11pm) probably not so much.

obviously it doesnt happen all that often, but surely they should be settin some sort of example in regards to road rules? ok so im not goin to ask a cop whos just pulled me over for runnin a red light "why do you do such things?" but if the cops are following the road rules, would people be complaining?

[TJ]

I had no idea traffic lights had different settings for peak and off peak. Who would have thought. And yes, some lights will still take 20-30 seconds to cycle over at night.

I have seen it happen maybe 4 times in my life, passenger and driving - and unless you know what they were up to you have no right to question it.

[Stef]

i do agree with you tj, i wouldnt question a cop in regards to anythin of the sort, id rather not cop a licky or a fine. its not a big deal in comparison to a lot of things, but shouldnt on duty cops be following the road rules unless theres a job on?

[fourseven]

You do know that some jobs dont require them to have lights and sirens the whole way, but still may need them to get there a little faster than just sitting at set of lights for 30 seconds?

Winner.

Just because a job hasn't been given urgent driving priority, doesn't mean they can take their time. It depends on the circumstances and the task at hand.



obviously it doesnt happen all that often, but surely they should be settin some sort of example in regards to road rules? ok so im not goin to ask a cop whos just pulled me over for runnin a red light "why do you do such things?" but if the cops are following the road rules, would people be complaining?

Setting examples is for mum and dad. The Police do follow the road rules and you can bet they face tougher penalties than a normal road user if they cannot justify their actions. There are many exemptions however depending on what they are doing.

[Stef]

not saying they always disobey the rules, as mentioned before, ive only seen it once, cant say ive seen other cops break road rules. purely commentin on what ive seen, and it didnt look right.

[BOSS 290]

i agree with this whole come up to intersection, put party lights on, roar thru, then turn off. i fail to see how cops can do that. they are the one who are supposed to be enforcing the law.

what reason is there to do this please do tell!

Jealousy I suspect.

I know several guys that are police, including a good mate of mine that recently joined. My attitude has changed over the last 5 years, the bottom line is don't whinge if you're caught doing something illegal. Also, develop a good understanding of the law; it will help you defend yourself if required.

You might complain if they do a U-Turn and use there lights and sirens as part of that turn, but I tell you what, if it's your family they are attending to because some drug fucked idiot has broken into your house and threatening to kill someone, you'd let them do what ever it takes to attend to your distress call.

[Stef]

jealousy? as if. i dont whinge if im caught doin somethin illegal, cop it on the chin, if i got caught for it i deserve to cop it. ive got a good understanding of the law also. after losin my license twice for dumb shit, ive learnt my lesson.

do you really think they would do a u turn, with lights on and then turn them off if they had to go to a distress call? highly doubt it. im no einstein but theyd have their lights on the whole way.

[Macca]

jealousy? as if. i dont whinge if im caught doin somethin illegal, cop it on the chin, if i got caught for it i deserve to cop it. ive got a good understanding of the law also. after losin my license twice for dumb shit, ive learnt my lesson.

do you really think they would do a u turn, with lights on and then turn them off if they had to go to a distress call? highly doubt it. im no einstein but theyd have their lights on the whole way.

got that part right. If it is a lower priority job they will not have lights on the whole way, only time they will put them on is to get through congestion. ie traffic lights, U turns etc.

[Ryan1080]

You can whinge and moan, but at the end of the day, you can;t do anything about. Go give them a ticket for doing an illegal u turn if you dare :)

Think first, was it a traffic cop who did the 'illegal' driving, or was it a useful cop who was going to attend to a burglary, domestic dispute or other real crimes. If it's the latter, shut up. If it's the former, well, we already know they're assholes, no one likes them so no point having a whinge stating the obvious!

[Stef]

well going by the fact that he turned his lights off, wouldnt think it would be a crime. at least not a high priority one. not whingin n moanin, just wantin to find out what gives?

[Macca]

well going by the fact that he turned his lights off, wouldnt think it would be a crime. at least not a high priority one. not whingin n moanin, just wantin to find out what gives?

Also another scenario is they could have been called to a job with priority and then got called out of it as another car was closer. It sounds a bit strange but the amount of times it happens is high

[Stef]

maybe so, spose we will never know.

[DanWA]

Because half the time they aren't and if you seen how many smashed cop cars i see on flatbeds leaving the collie motorplex after a training day, you'll realise how shit they are drivers.

[BOSS 290]

jealousy? as if. i dont whinge if im caught doin somethin illegal, cop it on the chin, if i got caught for it i deserve to cop it. ive got a good understanding of the law also. after losin my license twice for dumb shit, ive learnt my lesson.

do you really think they would do a u turn, with lights on and then turn them off if they had to go to a distress call? highly doubt it. im no einstein but theyd have their lights on the whole way.

Fair enough, your not jealous. Yes, I really do think they would turn the lights on, then off, depending on the type of priority they're given. Especially when doing U-Turns at traffic lights and stops signs etc.

Basically they're given a lot of discretion for their job. Here's a tip; you want the ability to do the same, join up :) If you don't like what they've done, note the time, date, vehicle rego and vehicle call sign and report it to the district office.

[gazza750]

in the middle of the night there is no way a set of lights will stay red for 30 seconds. traffic light intersections have different setups for different times of day/types of traffic. ie during the day on say albany hwy and kelvin road, there are no right turn lights, which go on at peak hour both morning and afternoon, as well as midday for a certain period of time. at night, competely different story, if you pull up to the lights and no one else is there, i can bet that you will wait there a maximum of ten seconds. obviously a high priority job will see cops clockin big speeds, lights and sirens blazing, (ie break in) and low priority jobs (ie noise disturbance at 11pm) probably not so much.

obviously it doesnt happen all that often, but surely they should be settin some sort of example in regards to road rules? ok so im not goin to ask a cop whos just pulled me over for runnin a red light "why do you do such things?" but if the cops are following the road rules, would people be complaining?


Try Stock road South st lights @ 2 am i have often waited
3 to 4 minutes as those lights are not at the moment on south st priority so if you pull up as it has just gone red you have to wait til it goes through the whole cycle of right arrows straight through then back to where you are to get a green light
and i go through those lights at that time 5 nights a week on my way to work

[Fukushima]

if you've never run a red arrow at 2am you are a pussy

[Niksmo]

shut the fuck up and do a skid. /end thread.

[Lonewolf]

Try Stock road South st lights @ 2 am i have often waited
3 to 4 minutes as those lights are not at the moment on south st priority so if you pull up as it has just gone red you have to wait til it goes through the whole cycle of right arrows straight through then back to where you are to get a green light
and i go through those lights at that time 5 nights a week on my way to work

theres another one at alexander drive/victoria av in malaga.
Have waited substantial amounts of time at the lights there, despite lack of traffic.

[Ryan1080]

Fuck waiting 4 minutes at a red light in the middle of the night... useless! We're lucky this ain't South Africa...

[savage1987]

http://trinitypastor.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/broken_record.jpg

[s-tranzor]

I know it's Adelaide but still interesting: http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/police-assert-hoon-drivers-will-be-charged/story-e6frea83-1225870268546

"POLICE have begun "targeting" car enthusiast groups that allegedly ignore road laws, charging the head of a notorious Adelaide car club with an anti-hoon law that has not been used before."

This guy sets a bad example of cruise clubs though lol
http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2010/05/23/1225870/283347-barnes.jpg

[Lump]

^welzy?

[Ryan1080]

I know it's Adelaide but still interesting: http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/police-assert-hoon-drivers-will-be-charged/story-e6frea83-1225870268546

"POLICE have begun "targeting" car enthusiast groups that allegedly ignore road laws, charging the head of a notorious Adelaide car club with an anti-hoon law that has not been used before."

This guy sets a bad example of cruise clubs though lol
http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2010/05/23/1225870/283347-barnes.jpg

ROFL!!!! Adelaide-spec Brockas!! :lol:

[RK 86 WA]

Wtf at his gut. Rank pingpingpingping

[savage1987]

Based solely on appearance, he is not the head of a club of car enthusiasts :)

[kurbn]

more like adelaide spec TJ

http://i752.photobucket.com/albums/xx164/bangnrb25/lawl.jpg
Mid nod