View Full Version : [track] 5 June BARBAGALLO TRACK DAY (Saturday)
poombah
29-04-2010, 06:56 AM
AFARCC have booked the track at Barbagello for the 5th of June 2010
Time: 8:00am Arrival / 8:30am Sign On / 9:15am Drivers Brief / 9:30am Start
What: Morning Session (Short Track) - BBQ Lunch - Afternoon Session (Long Track) - Volunteer Instructors available on the day.
Price: $120 for AFARCC Members - $140 for non Members (incl 6 months membership)
Requirements:
Approved Helmet
Long Clothing
Valid Drivers License (Must Present)
Roadworthy Vehicle
Current CAMS L2S Licence (CAN NOT BE PURCHASED ON DAY)
CAMS L1S Licence (CAN BE PURCHASED ON DAY - $20)
To secure your spot:
Transfer your payment to -
Name: All Fours & Rotaries Car Club of WA
Bank: Commonwealth
BSB: 066 000
ACC: 1011 4377
Put your Surname and the date of the event as your message reference (ie I would put KNIGHT JUNE5)
Then email a copy of your transfer receipt, with your full name and car to poombah@iinet.net.au
Any questions relating to the day please feel free to email committee@allfours.org.au
Further info/entry list/supp regs(once approved) see:
http://www.allfours.org.au/forums/showthread.php?t=762
Cheers
Russell Knight
AFARCC Treasurer
Rantopotamus
02-05-2010, 04:42 PM
Any car yeah? or just 4's and rotarys?
FranZ
02-05-2010, 05:03 PM
Any car is welcome!
Brockas
02-05-2010, 06:14 PM
Timing?
jaybee
02-05-2010, 06:53 PM
just out of curiousity, how often do barbs track days like this come around? if its not very often i might try and make the date i think.
Sfidz
02-05-2010, 09:07 PM
were do you get CAMS L2S Licence from and how much is it?
Do you need both of the licences for the day?
Anddd, what is the difference between CAMS L2S Licence, CAMS L1S Licence?
Cheers :)
Spektor
03-05-2010, 03:17 PM
You can get a CAMS L2S License from CAMS or some CAMS Affiliated clubs. But you must be a member of a CAMS Affiliated club either way. AFARCC is CAMS Affiliated so that's fairly easy to get sorted. 12month license, I think is $88
The L2S is a standard Level 2 Speed 12month License. The L1S is a single event Speed license. You can only use one L1S per 12months (If I recall correctly). It's just there for people to get a taste of motorsport.
Butcher
03-05-2010, 03:33 PM
Whats a L1 worth and can it be upgraded (ie pay the difference) to a L2 after it is used if keen to do more?
poombah
05-05-2010, 05:18 AM
L1 is a single use licence (~$30) - L2S is $100 and lasts for 12 months and covers any CAMS or AASA event.
poombah
05-05-2010, 05:20 AM
Timing?
No Timing - as this increases the permit cost SIGNIFICANTLY as it is then classed as a competition event.
That said there is nothing stopping you from having a device in your vehicle to monitor your own progress. (Performance Box, Drift Box, Mobile phone with GPS timing app).
poombah
05-05-2010, 05:22 AM
Any car yeah? or just 4's and rotarys?
All Makes and Models are welcome. Our Track days have always been a mixture of the Japland specials - GTR's Evo's WRX's Supra's etc and local variety XR6 / XR8/ SS / HSV / FPV .. whatever you like.
The day is pretty laid back and you get HEAPS of track time, BBQ lunch included and you get to have a yarn with like minded enthusiasts.
tinto
05-06-2010, 05:06 PM
Had a great day today. Thanks to AFARCC for organising it.
Got some cool footage that I'll edit down a little then youtube it.
FranZ
05-06-2010, 06:02 PM
Thanks to all that came and made it an enjoyable day. We welcome any feedback good or bad, so please let us know. If you prefer to keep it quiet/confidential, email your thoughts to committee@allfours.org.au
Thanks :)
Kaido
05-06-2010, 07:22 PM
Thanks to all that came and made it an enjoyable day. We welcome any feedback good or bad, so please let us know. If you prefer to keep it quiet/confidential, email your thoughts to committee@allfours.org.au
Thanks :)
good day =)
BIG Thankyou to everyone who was running the day and help looked after me! you guys did a fantastic job.
c.rusli
05-06-2010, 09:09 PM
IM BEACHED BROOO!!!! hahahahaa
sorry boys.. my car dug a bunker on the sand dunes... and took awhile to come out..
GOod Fun! and Thanks for the organizers also
VERY BIG THANKS! for the Instructors! that has put up with my messy driving lines and doing some earth work!
The L plates suits my car better than anyone even though it was mounted sideways.. lol!
Bad thing was my Fuel pump died at afternoon session!
But its all good now! also i wanted to Thanks Franz! for lending me your Fuel pump! your a champion bro!
SlamDunk
05-06-2010, 09:38 PM
Indeed a good day!! thanx alot boys.
Feel sorry for the white evo, but that's wot motorsports about i guess.
Great day with a big turn out, huge thanks to everyone from AFARCC who was involved in organising and running the day. Thanks also goes to the instructors too.
I have to feel sorry for the owner of this 33, expensive day for him.
http://www.pixelculture.com/AFARCC_5_June/AFARCC_5_June_R33_1.jpg
http://www.pixelculture.com/AFARCC_5_June/AFARCC_5_June_R33_2.jpg
http://www.pixelculture.com/AFARCC_5_June/AFARCC_5_June_R33_3.jpg
http://www.pixelculture.com/AFARCC_5_June/AFARCC_5_June_R33_4.jpg
http://www.pixelculture.com/AFARCC_5_June/AFARCC_5_June_R33_5.jpg
http://www.pixelculture.com/AFARCC_5_June/AFARCC_5_June_R33_6.jpg
http://www.pixelculture.com/AFARCC_5_June/AFARCC_5_June_R33_7.jpg
Gurney
05-06-2010, 10:23 PM
Look at the rear, its got wicked off set now :)
Cochee
05-06-2010, 10:26 PM
Wow! poor guy, definately feel sorry for him.
Pretty good photos but.
tinto
05-06-2010, 10:36 PM
That is a grim sequence :[
Hope he's feeling OK now - physically at least.
Quality on this video should improve once YouTube are done processing it:
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Someone send him this link
http://www.antilag.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33093
jaybee
05-06-2010, 11:53 PM
poor guy! what happened? did he lose it out of the last corner and over correct?
poombah
06-06-2010, 05:52 AM
poor guy! what happened? did he lose it out of the last corner and over correct?
had a bit of oversteering exiting ford.. then what looked like some good old lift off over steering followed by tank slappo.
main thing is he luckily walked away... cars are repairable/replaceable... people arent.
SlamDunk
06-06-2010, 06:14 AM
any idea how bad the white evo MR is russ?
c.rusli
06-06-2010, 08:13 AM
the 8mr with voltex is fine.
Only side skirt coming loose and radiator hose popped out.
But will see more if anything els happen to the engine or water pump.
Owner told me it wast over haeating.
We shall see
dattoman
06-06-2010, 09:27 AM
I liked the vid tinto
Not sure what sort of car you have.... but you do seem to coast alot rather than come in hard on the brakes
I find lifting off the throttle early and not braking hard enough gives me too much time to second guess myself
I worry I'm not in the right spot on the track to be setup for fast exit on the corner
Once I learned to brake alot later I actually had less time to think and make less mistakes
Good vid though.... I should have come up to watch but that just sets the bug nibbling and makes me want to drive... lol
DEVIIINE
06-06-2010, 09:42 AM
any idea how bad the white evo MR is russ?
Intercooler piping hose came off...possible blown gasket...i will find out next week...
RK 86 WA
06-06-2010, 09:57 AM
I have plenty of pics, however I need to finish 'aquiring' CS5 Lol.
Photos will be avail, in a few days me thinks.
tinto
06-06-2010, 10:32 AM
I liked the vid tinto
Not sure what sort of car you have.... but you do seem to coast alot rather than come in hard on the brakes
That sounds about right - I was overly conscious of baking my car (S15 200SX) and am still coming to grips with the FWD -> RWD switch, so wanted to coast a bit in some places, even on the warmup laps. Once that is sorted (my water temps were hitting 120) I'll be a bit more aggressive on the pedals.
Thanks for the feedback - I've got plenty of room to improve :)
My GPS clocked a 1.09.55 on the long track, with most full laps around 1.10/1.12. It seems quite accurate as in the afternoon we switched to short track and my times were similar to No Limits nights.
I stuck the same camera on the side of my helmet to get another perspective.
You can see the EVO looming at about 1:50 (look in the rear mirrors), then he rips past over the top of the hill - those things can move.
I've got 4x4 trained thumbs that won't tuck under the wheel.. It is a very hard habit to break!
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magic1
06-06-2010, 10:34 AM
the skyline, antilag member?
lukits01
06-06-2010, 11:15 AM
That was a good day! totally exhausted.
Thanks to the organisers and to some extent, the tow truck that helped out a few people ahaha
I was half expecting my gearbox to blow yesterday, but it kept crunching away all day haha
what camera is that, tinto? GoPro HD?
c.rusli
06-06-2010, 11:17 AM
yay! Photos please..
not bad timing tinto.
1st time out
Im in 1:12:00 long and 1:00:67 short the slowest evo on the straight. Evry one pukling aqay so fast lol
tinto
06-06-2010, 11:23 AM
what camera is that, tinto? GoPro HD?
Yep, GoPro HD Hero (motorsports pack).
Looks amazing on the TV, not so much on Youtube :)
Did I see you in South Perth (BP) on Friday Night @ the air pump?
Red Civic Type R? Was going to say hello, but I think you were wrapping up as I was coming back to my car.
Your car sounds (and goes) amazing on the track - what RPM are you hitting?
lukits01
06-06-2010, 12:05 PM
Yep, GoPro HD Hero (motorsports pack).
Looks amazing on the TV, not so much on Youtube :)
Did I see you in South Perth (BP) on Friday Night @ the air pump?
Red Civic Type R? Was going to say hello, but I think you were wrapping up as I was coming back to my car.
Your car sounds (and goes) amazing on the track - what RPM are you hitting?
ahh, yea I was at BP South Perth, I think I remember, was it the S15?
wow, the difference between normal goPro and HD is night and day!
I have the older GoPro, will be posting some vids later. Car revs to 8600 :werd: but hardly ever go that far, doesn't really make power.
DJDINO
06-06-2010, 12:26 PM
Had a great day, thanks to all the organisers etc, EVO was going well, did that many laps I was stuffed at the end of the day.
Had a big spin myself coming up the hill out of the esses, stopped before the tyres so no damage, feel for the Skyline driver as it's part of pushing it, just unlucky.
DEVIIINE
06-06-2010, 12:51 PM
That sounds about right - I was overly conscious of baking my car (S15 200SX) and am still coming to grips with the FWD -> RWD switch, so wanted to coast a bit in some places, even on the warmup laps. Once that is sorted (my water temps were hitting 120) I'll be a bit more aggressive on the pedals.
Thanks for the feedback - I've got plenty of room to improve :)
My GPS clocked a 1.09.55 on the long track, with most full laps around 1.10/1.12. It seems quite accurate as in the afternoon we switched to short track and my times were similar to No Limits nights.
I stuck the same camera on the side of my helmet to get another perspective.
You can see the EVO looming at about 1:50 (look in the rear mirrors), then he rips past over the top of the hill - those things can move.
I've got 4x4 trained thumbs that won't tuck under the wheel.. It is a very hard habit to break!
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<embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/zYy3NiDXvrQ&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="385"></object>
Hey mate, is it possible for you to send me the link of this video as it would be the first video i have for my car...thanks..
Sandy
06-06-2010, 02:40 PM
If you are after the YouTube link it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYy3NiDXvrQ&feature=player_embedded
lukits01
06-06-2010, 02:41 PM
a few 70.XX laps going round and round
and my ghetto editting skills ahaha
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DEVIIINE
06-06-2010, 04:29 PM
If you are after the YouTube link it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYy3NiDXvrQ&feature=player_embedded
thank you!
SlamDunk
06-06-2010, 04:32 PM
yay! Photos please..
not bad timing tinto.
1st time out
Im in 1:12:00 long and 1:00:67 short the slowest evo on the straight. Evry one pukling aqay so fast lol
which evo was this? the white 7? it wont be the slowest.. the yellow7 is a stock. with factory intake, cat, suspension, turbo and so on. But i have a evo9 RS turbo sitting at home though. hahaha
c.rusli
06-06-2010, 06:27 PM
panda evo lol with t wing. Definately i was slow on straight!!
DJDINO
06-06-2010, 06:42 PM
panda evo lol with t wing. Definately i was slow on straight!!
Not that slow
You fix the car ? was it the fuel pump ?
Kaido
06-06-2010, 06:47 PM
panda evo lol with t wing. Definately i was slow on straight!!
you weren't that slow!
i check the data logging from the performace box.
comparing your fastest lap to mine.
On the start straight your top speed was
163km/hr mine was 169km/hr
back straight you were
190.72km/hr i was 208km/hr
Your the red line
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/1819/laptime.jpg
c.rusli
06-06-2010, 07:30 PM
was that lap 59.3!!!? If yes than it wasnt me that drove it. Was franz lol...
Ur runs was 1:08 compare to my 1:12 lol.. Speed does makes a different. Lots of room for improvements
Kaido
06-06-2010, 07:34 PM
was that lap 59.3!!!? If yes than it wasnt me that drove it. Was franz lol...
long track la 1:11.95
c.rusli
06-06-2010, 08:18 PM
running stock fuel pump atm. Just for emergency use. N its not mine just use it to get hm lol.
The graph look sick! Thx mike. I got one faster line and the rest im under u lol... Shit hahhaa
lukits01
06-06-2010, 08:42 PM
;649514']long track la 1:11.95
hey Michael, you using Circuit tools, right?
do you know how to adjust the circuit outline?
Kaido
06-06-2010, 08:58 PM
hey Michael, you using Circuit tools, right?
do you know how to adjust the circuit outline?
yeah using the circuit tool.
My circuit outline isn't correct :S i use google earth to trace the map and after doing some reading it looks like that sometimes when u trace using google earth it isn't 100% correct
http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/1819/laptime.jpg
lukits01
06-06-2010, 09:10 PM
;649537']yeah using the circuit tool.
My circuit outline isn't correct :S i use google earth to trace the map and after doing some reading it looks like that sometimes when u trace using google earth it isn't 100% correct
http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/1819/laptime.jpg
yea I realised that, but performance tools you can adjust the track
can't seem to find that feature on Circuit Tools. Probably not implemented yet then :(
Kaido
06-06-2010, 09:36 PM
yea I realised that, but performance tools you can adjust the track
can't seem to find that feature on Circuit Tools. Probably not implemented yet then :(
if you download the driftbox tool or the performance box tool, i found you can adjust the track (just right click on the map it has the align opionion)
http://www.performancebox.co.uk/dlsoftware.html
here is what it looks like, still seems slighty off (might need to redo the track make it wider)
http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/8454/maprr.jpg
DEVIIINE
06-06-2010, 10:29 PM
panda evo lol with t wing. Definately i was slow on straight!!
bah..what do u mean by slowest? considering all the performance mods like manifolds and tomei turbo you have... :lol:
c.rusli
06-06-2010, 11:54 PM
bah..what do u mean by slowest? considering all the performance mods like manifolds and tomei turbo you have... :lol:
DUDE not tuned.. so its not even running full potential
stock evo 7 and tuned 6 chopped me on the back straight...
i just loook helpless..... :( just wait ill do my revange! :lol:
SlamDunk
07-06-2010, 06:45 AM
Have official photos for the day been published somewhere yet?
Brockas
07-06-2010, 12:05 PM
Killer toe-in:
http://i47.tinypic.com/nb6o3p.jpg
http://i49.tinypic.com/dxbr48.jpg
dattoman
07-06-2010, 04:07 PM
That looks fairly unhappy
If he has a good insurance company and can attest to that being driver training since it wasn't a timed event
They may fix it (Its happened before with broken Commodores)
mitchy
07-06-2010, 04:12 PM
ouch... that would be a write off i'd imagine.. bent pillars and roof.
poombah
07-06-2010, 05:52 PM
any idea how bad the white evo MR is russ?
if it was Nyi Nyi's one that went home on the flat bed that thing sounded like a steam train.
Great day with a big turn out, huge thanks to everyone from AFARCC who was involved in organising and running the day. Thanks also goes to the instructors too.
I have to feel sorry for the owner of this 33, expensive day for him.
http://www.pixelculture.com/AFARCC_5_June/AFARCC_5_June_R33_1.jpg
http://www.pixelculture.com/AFARCC_5_June/AFARCC_5_June_R33_2.jpg
http://www.pixelculture.com/AFARCC_5_June/AFARCC_5_June_R33_3.jpg
http://www.pixelculture.com/AFARCC_5_June/AFARCC_5_June_R33_4.jpg
http://www.pixelculture.com/AFARCC_5_June/AFARCC_5_June_R33_5.jpg
http://www.pixelculture.com/AFARCC_5_June/AFARCC_5_June_R33_6.jpg
http://www.pixelculture.com/AFARCC_5_June/AFARCC_5_June_R33_7.jpg
Wow - lucky to walk away
Thats not mikey?
I'm pretty sure that was on the in lap as well. Plenty of cars left on the flat beds that day.
Godzilla
07-06-2010, 08:55 PM
Thats looks painfull.... never seen anything like that happen there, usualy people just spin in to the infield there...
Brockas
07-06-2010, 09:22 PM
Wow - lucky to walk away
Thats not mikey?
Yeh, Mikey.
DEVIIINE
07-06-2010, 11:39 PM
if it was Nyi Nyi's one that went home on the flat bed that thing sounded like a steam train.
yeh, i couldn't send it to the workshop that day so i took it back home and all the neighbors came out to look when i started the car again to put it in my garage...anyway, it was a good event russ, looking forward for the next one...
RK 86 WA
08-06-2010, 05:44 AM
Cs5 'aquired'
Pics finally resized tonight :)
GTRgav
08-06-2010, 08:32 AM
Plenty of cars left on the flat beds that day.
Mine being one of them. Pretty sure I've lunched the gearbox input shaft as a minimum. Will know more when I get the gearbox out this week.
BTW - can't get hold of Gerrin at the moment - is he still crook??
skidkid
08-06-2010, 08:55 AM
So does anybody have bulk pics of the day?
Brockas
08-06-2010, 09:49 AM
Mine being one of them. Pretty sure I've lunched the gearbox input shaft as a minimum. Will know more when I get the gearbox out this week.
Ahhh no good :(
How did you do that?
FranZ
08-06-2010, 10:01 AM
I know his leg hurts, he normally doesnt get outta bed til about lunchtime! Keep trying him Gav!
GTRgav
08-06-2010, 12:20 PM
Ahhh no good :(
How did you do that?
It wasn't the famous "Brockenbank Manouver" (AKA slam into second at peak engine torque) if that's what your asking:)
Was applying power in 3rd into corner 1 on the second lap. I think it's just the laws of physics catching up with the years of abuse the gearbox has seen.
siamak
08-06-2010, 12:43 PM
Anyone know who the guy is with the R33? Can someone PM him me his number.
Brockas
08-06-2010, 12:58 PM
It wasn't the famous "Brockenbank Manouver" (AKA slam into second at peak engine torque) if that's what your asking:)
Was applying power in 3rd into corner 1 on the second lap. I think it's just the laws of physics catching up with the years of abuse the gearbox has seen.
hahaha I see.
Guess we'd have to nickname this one the "Beer shear"...
bjohnson
08-06-2010, 03:08 PM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/46559022@N02/sets/72157624229297184/
My attempt.
lukits01
08-06-2010, 03:36 PM
Thanks, Ben!
haha I like this one
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4037/4681680046_827ea4514f.jpg
I remember hearing a whole lot of tire screeching, and seeing that R34 fully sideways on my rear view mirror.
Mr Beer I presume youve told the wife that the replacement part for a Nissan gearbox is made by holinger?
:D
T-Diddy
08-06-2010, 04:51 PM
So does anybody have bulk pics of the day?
yes, going through about 400 or so right now
will be on my flickr account real soon,
(ill post link in here)
tinto
08-06-2010, 05:22 PM
Nice shots Ben.
I know I'm not alone when I say... MORE!
skidkid
08-06-2010, 05:57 PM
yes, going through about 400 or so right now
will be on my flickr account real soon,
(ill post link in here)
Cheers mate, i was in the wrx wagon.. first time out so it'd be nice to get a pic or 2...
k0tter
09-06-2010, 09:51 AM
http://www.tinship.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=4
I took some pics,
my Radiator shat itself on the first lap out, so hung around to take some photos and grab my $140 hot dog :)
RK 86 WA
10-06-2010, 10:45 PM
Just did a quick mock up of a few okish photos. Havent had a play with the cam gear for a long time!
Dont mind the shitty watermark haha tired and cbf making a decent one atm.
http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r384/milba1112/DSC_0314.jpg
http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r384/milba1112/DSC_0315.jpg
http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r384/milba1112/DSC_0319.jpg
http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r384/milba1112/DSC_0321.jpg
http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r384/milba1112/DSC_0322.jpg
http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r384/milba1112/DSC_0336.jpg
http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r384/milba1112/DSC_0339.jpg
http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r384/milba1112/DSC_0341.jpg
http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r384/milba1112/DSC_0344.jpg
http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r384/milba1112/DSC_0346.jpg
http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r384/milba1112/DSC_0354.jpg
http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r384/milba1112/DSC_0356.jpg
http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r384/milba1112/DSC_0363.jpg
http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r384/milba1112/DSC_0365.jpg
http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r384/milba1112/DSC_0367.jpg
http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r384/milba1112/DSC_0368.jpg
http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r384/milba1112/DSC_0374.jpg
http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r384/milba1112/DSC_0378.jpg
http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r384/milba1112/DSC_0379.jpg
http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r384/milba1112/DSC_0380.jpg
Oh full res shots available if you guys want.
I'll give them a bit more attention over the weekend
tinto
11-06-2010, 03:25 PM
Just did a quick mock up of a few okish photos. Havent had a play with the cam gear for a long time!
http://i353.photobucket.com/albums/r384/milba1112/DSC_0368.jpg
Oh full res shots available if you guys want.
I'll give them a bit more attention over the weekend
Those look great - thanks for posting them up.
I'd love to get the full res of the one above if you don't mind.
Although that is a left hander up-hill... I need to wind down the coilovers a bit more!
RK 86 WA
13-06-2010, 10:44 AM
No worries :) got a few im sending out so pm me your email and ill send them through tonight
cobras13
18-06-2010, 02:08 PM
love the photo of r34 with the honda :)
im the r34 :-P
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