Tree man fails

[KAL SPL]

http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/tree-man-comes-down-after-four-months-20100326-r27w.html

Hes down but hows the tree doing ?
Is that pic of the tree after being chopped ?

[XF Falcon]

Heard it on the radio.

As far as I know, the tree is still standing. He said he came down because the tree survived one of Perths biggest storms, and that proves that its a safe tree which should not be removed.

I think the photo of the chopped down stump is another tree nearby which they chopped a week or so ago, when there was that big protest thing.
I could be wrong though.

Now that he's down they should chop it down, the storm may have weakened the structural integrity of the trunk :shake:

[millzy_88]

I see his point there but what the hell, he's out of the tree so chop the f**ker down.

[colt75]

hero of gosnells

[tahni]

"When his feet touched the ground he pledged the first thing he was going to do was have a hot shower and play online computer game World of War Craft."

Thodd is that you?
kek

[INSINR8R]

LOL!

How sad, been up there 4 months, craving the attention of geeks around the world he's missed so dearly.

http://happyasamonkey.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/dfmr336q_18gwfhzmj7_b.jpg

[grogers]

fuck being in that tree with that storm
no need 4 a shower buddy had a big 1 on Monday

[KyeBidz]

I hope he falls over in the shower and accidently hangs himself on the shower curtain.

Useless pingpingpingping

[Gurney]

cut the fucking thing down and let it fall on his house, stupid old pingpingpingping.

[Jimmy_S]

LOL.... stupid bloke

[Gladio]

Lol council will prob chop it anyways.

[INSINR8R]

Chop it down, then just keep cutting it up. Little cuts here and there like you were torturing it.

A little gouge out every so often. Then piss on the remains before sending it to the wood chipper, then piss on it again.

FUCK y0 TREE NIGGA!

[satch]

they should chop his disability pension, if anything hes proved hes fit for work by sitting in a tree for 4 months.

[DrNick]

I thought the useless hippy must be on some sort of pension. And of course he won't get $5,000 fine because he'll just say he cant afford to pay it. He just needs a good solid kick to the head thats all.

[mr_mike]

they should chop his disability pension, if anything hes proved hes fit for work by sitting in a tree for 4 months.

agreed!! he should be made to repay the last 4mths at least if ur healthy and fit enough to sit in a tree for 110 days or what ever it is ur more than fit enough to work and contribute to society in some way and not leach of tax payers.
Fuck i'm fairly healthy and kinda fit in my left leg mayb but there is no way i could sit in a tree that long.

Bloke is a fuckin moron and knows nothin about trees, as i'm sure a few people here will agree white gums are notorious for dropping massive limbs in the stillest of conditions, the fact it didnt fall over or drop a branch and kill a puppy during the storm means fuck all.

[shifted]

Council cuts tree down, slaps hobo with fine, win/win.

[colt75]

Chop it down, then just keep cutting it up. Little cuts here and there like you were torturing it.

A little gouge out every so often. Then piss on the remains before sending it to the wood chipper, then piss on it again.

FUCK y0 TREE NIGGA!

then mail him a bag of woodchips for his garden lulz

[Josh13B]

should have just chopped it down with him in it, biggest waste of 4 months of old news

[Drift_R32]

If only it fell on his house throught the storm..fukn that would have been gold.

feel for his nieghbours. would be the biggest annoying pingpingpingping of a thing living next door,

[R31 POWER]

Good on him i say.

[viet_boi]

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p23/viet_boi_01/treeman.jpg
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p23/viet_boi_01/koala_1922-01.jpg
same same just ones a retard

[shifted]

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p23/viet_boi_01/treeman.jpg
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p23/viet_boi_01/koala_1922-01.jpg
same same just ones a retard

Fucking LOL LOL!!!

Thanks for making my day - that is bloody brilliant.

[Lmx]

so have they cut the tree down yet?

[DRKWRX]

nope drove past it like an hour ago.

[BOSS 290]

Leave the tree. If the storm didn't have enough force to topple it over why cut it down? It's obviously not a danger.

[fourseven]

Leave the tree. If the storm didn't have enough force to topple it over why cut it down? It's obviously not a danger.

Most intelligent post ever.

Obviously none of you pingpingpingpings have ever fought for something you believe in, regardless of circumstances.

:p

[ho57ile]

I also fail to see how a bloke in a tree is negatively affecting your lives so much?

[DJDINO]

This bloke is a dead set idiot, I've seen 1st hand what happens when a swamp gum decides to drop a branch, who do you think this guy will sue when it drops a branch on one of his family members ?

[Lump]

I also fail to see how a bloke in a tree is negatively affecting your lives so much?

so you have never commented on what some idiot is doing even tho it doesnt directly affect you?

im a ratepayer, so i sympathise with other ratepayers that have to put up with a circus/eyesore in their street.

not sure if you own any land, but how would you feel if someone decided to set up a boong camp on it because you want to cut down your own tree?

council has been a bunch of softcocks & let this drag on too long

[mr_rotary]

council has been a bunch of softcocks & let this drag on too long
And how many posts on here do I have to listen to about someone speeding over the limit, breaking the law and then asking how to get off it? These people strongly beleive that they are in the right and that there was something incorrect in the placement of the camera or whatever.

Same goes for tree man. Council is saying the tree is a hazard when he has proven it otherwise. He believes strongly in that the tree is safe and good on him for doing so. Perhaps the council should of been doing their job properly in the first place and kept the maitenance on the trees by regularly pruning them. This could of been solved easily a long time ago. Too many idiots in shire who think they are all too high and mighty when they should be serving the community and coming to some sort of agreement.

Good on him for standing up to what he believes in and not being a keyboard warrior.

[DRKWRX]

^ do kind of agree with this man, Although Antilagging treeman was pretty funny.

[Lump]

And how many posts on here do I have to listen to about someone speeding over the limit, breaking the law and then asking how to get off it? These people strongly beleive that they are in the right and that there was something incorrect in the placement of the camera or whatever.

i see the point you are trying to make but getting done speeding & trying to argue your case(especially from the drivers point of view), is not as clear cut as what this bloke was doing.

Same goes for tree man. Council is saying the tree is a hazard when he has proven it otherwise.

WTF, how has treeman proven the tree is safe?

just because a blind man crosses the road once without getting hit doesnt mean its allways going to be safe to do so..


He believes strongly in that the tree is safe and good on him for doing so.

but its not his tree so what he thinks means SFA


Perhaps the council should of been doing their job properly in the first place and kept the maitenance on the trees by regularly pruning them. This could of been solved easily a long time ago. Too many idiots in shire who think they are all too high and mighty when they should be serving the community and coming to some sort of agreement.

well the shire is trying to do their job properly now.

this is not really something the shire should have to come to some form of agreement over.

you see, if some bloke decided to set up camp in your front yard (if you own your own home) i rekon you would want him fucked off as well, or would you respect his right to protest & let him stay..?

Good on him for standing up to what he believes in and not being a keyboard warrior.


im all for people standing up for what they believe in as long as its lawful.

[TJ]

Said it before, said it again, fuck him and his tree.

[schnoods]

After watching The Castle, I dont reckon he deserves to be called a hero, but good on him for sticking it up the council.

[mr_mike]

the tree man is basing hiw argument now on the fact that the tree didnt come down in the biggest storm to hit perth in 15 years so it must be safe, considering he likes tree so much you think he would be aware that white gums drop branches when ever they want it doesnt have to be windy or anythin.
A white gum will drop a branch because they self prune when there is a lack of water. I have witnessed this myself, 40deg day dead still suddenly a massive crack and crunch sounds and the tree out the front dropped a branch about 200mm in diameter.

I think the council has been more than fair on this topic, its not like they are gonna cut down the tree and put a parking spot there or a lamp post they have agreed to replace it with another Australian native tree they are trying to please every1 but still keep it safe.

To the people saying he is a hero well done he stayed in a tree for 112 days you do realise while ur at workin making money to survive this fuckin hippy is leaching of your tax to save a tree?
This is what really annoys me about the whole situation the fact he is/has been claiming a pension yet he is clearly fit enough to stay up a tree. Sure if he was loaded go find a tree and stick ur dick in it as much as you want just dont expect my tax dollars to pay for it.

[fourseven]

To the people saying he is a hero well done he stayed in a tree for 112 days you do realise while ur at workin making money to survive this fuckin hippy is leaching of your tax to save a tree?
This is what really annoys me about the whole situation the fact he is/has been claiming a pension yet he is clearly fit enough to stay up a tree. Sure if he was loaded go find a tree and stick ur dick in it as much as you want just dont expect my tax dollars to pay for it.

There are thousands of coons leeching our tax dollars every day for benefits they've not earnt or deserve and they are fighting for nothing. Most of them will never work a single day in their life, or contribute to society. They won't ever pay tax. This bloke has worked at some point and spends 4 months in a tree fighting for something he believes in, standing up to a council (who are typically fucked) because he doesn't like the way they run things.

Sorry mate but I prefer paying the tree man's pension.

Not going to get on the "this country used to be great" rant but 20 years ago if you didn't like something in this country you fought for it. You rallied, protested, belted a few pingpingpingpings, and threw a few things and generally you won. These days pingpingpingpings don't bother. Look at saf trying to organise a group to fight and change the laws and change the perception of hoons. How many people got off their ass and contributed? How many people consistently whinge on AL that the laws are fucked and they get done for bullshit reasons?

TJ is right. Fuck him and his tree. But fuck the coons, foreigners, white pingpingpingpings, and anybody else who has never fought for something more.

:)

[DTM-031]

Well said!

[BOSS 290]

the tree man is basing hiw argument now on the fact that the tree didnt come down in the biggest storm to hit perth in 15 years so it must be safe, considering he likes tree so much you think he would be aware that white gums drop branches when ever they want it doesnt have to be windy or anythin.
A white gum will drop a branch because they self prune when there is a lack of water. I have witnessed this myself, 40deg day dead still suddenly a massive crack and crunch sounds and the tree out the front dropped a branch about 200mm in diameter.

I think the council has been more than fair on this topic, its not like they are gonna cut down the tree and put a parking spot there or a lamp post they have agreed to replace it with another Australian native tree they are trying to please every1 but still keep it safe.

To the people saying he is a hero well done he stayed in a tree for 112 days you do realise while ur at workin making money to survive this fuckin hippy is leaching of your tax to save a tree?
This is what really annoys me about the whole situation the fact he is/has been claiming a pension yet he is clearly fit enough to stay up a tree. Sure if he was loaded go find a tree and stick ur dick in it as much as you want just dont expect my tax dollars to pay for it.

Rubbish. The council planted these trees 2 or 3 decades ago, but now through fear of litigation they've decided to cut them all down incase someone sues them for a branch falling down. The storm is sufficient proof the tree is strong enough not to fall down. If the council did it's fucking job and carried out routine checks/maintanence on it's property the tree man wouldn't need to camp out in it for 112 days to prove a point.

Let's look at it another way. Let's say your pride and joy is determined to be a rust bucket death trap based on someone's opinion that it might suffer throttle sticking and kill someone. Would you let the authorities take your pride and joy away based on mis-information or worse still, opinion, even though you can prove them wrong?

Don't worry about your tax dollars going on this guy. They aren't. They're my tax dollars being spent on this guy :)

[SK]

should just poison the tree.

Over time it will start to drop branches and shit while it dies, and then they will realise that its dangerous and chop it down :)

[Lump]

dont need to, the council will be cutting it down anyday now

[AdN]

I also fail to see how a bloke in a tree is negatively affecting your lives so much?

^ do kind of agree with this man, Although Antilagging treeman was pretty funny.

Imagine living next door to an idiot in a tree for 4 months while people at all hours of the day drive past beep their horns and yell at a kunt in tree.

[Lump]

The storm is sufficient proof the tree is strong enough not to fall down. If the council did it's fucking job and carried out routine checks/maintanence on it's property the tree man wouldn't need to camp out in it for 112 days to prove a point.

the storm is no proof that tree wont drop branches - by your & treemans logic no tree in perth will now fall over or drop limbs just because they survived that localised hail storm - what a crock :lol:

Let's look at it another way. Let's say your pride and joy is determined to be a rust bucket death trap based on someone's opinion that it might suffer throttle sticking and kill someone. Would you let the authorities take your pride and joy away based on mis-information or worse still, opinion, even though you can prove them wrong?

no you wouldnt let the authorities take your car away - but if they say you cant drive it on their roads, well tough shit - you have to respect their rules or take the consequences...

Don't worry about your tax dollars going on this guy. They aren't. They're my tax dollars being spent on this guy :)

tree man was doomed to fail from the beginning

[rat]

maybe he was up in the tree just to get away from his wife. did you see that dragon!?!?!

[mr_mike]

Rubbish. The council planted these trees 2 or 3 decades ago, but now through fear of litigation they've decided to cut them all down incase someone sues them for a branch falling down. The storm is sufficient proof the tree is strong enough not to fall down. If the council did it's fucking job and carried out routine checks/maintanence on it's property the tree man wouldn't need to camp out in it for 112 days to prove a point.

Let's look at it another way. Let's say your pride and joy is determined to be a rust bucket death trap based on someone's opinion that it might suffer throttle sticking and kill someone. Would you let the authorities take your pride and joy away based on mis-information or worse still, opinion, even though you can prove them wrong?

Don't worry about your tax dollars going on this guy. They aren't. They're my tax dollars being spent on this guy :)

if you had bothered to read what i had written about white gums you would of read the part about them self pruning and being unpredictable when they drop branches, it doesnt have to be a perfect storm for them to fall over and do damage.

second you have pretty much described how the yellow sticker system and pit inspections work, if my "pride and joy" is deemed unsafe to be on the road and could cause harm and is yellowed that it the law.
More to the point its not even his fucking tree its on council land and therefore coucils responcability.
Few people have mentioned its the councils fault for not looking after the tree is that not what they are doing now the tree has been found to be unsafe for in suburban areas and has to be removed.

[Mistikal]

These trees have their dubbed name of "widow maker" for a reason.

I have personally seen and witnessed the same type of tree drop huge limbs without any warning - and these same trees were as 'healthy' as the one this coconut sat in for 4 months.

Cut it down before it drops a limb on a passing car.

Edit: The council have already vowed that they are going to replace the tree with "some other type of tree", so why not remove this notorious species of tree and replace it with something more suitable for a publicly trafficked area? Makes perfect sense to me.

[mr_mike]

not just some other tree, another native australian tree

[gav_wah]

news is some other assclown and mates is up the tree now and good ole dick after getting a makeover from a perth radio station is about to sometime in future to go back up there and support these new guys.

pathetic send in the TRG and smoke em out.

[OnParole]

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western-australia/another-man-up-thornlie-tree/story-e6frg13u-1225846981189

seriously, fuck the tree

[BOSS 290]

Hahaha, suck shit pingpingpingpings. Good to there's more than one person who believes in sticking up for their rights.

[mitchy]

Hahaha, suck shit pingpingpingpings. Good to there's more than one person who believes in sticking up for their rights.

how does the tree being there/not being there affect you?

other than giving you something to whinge about, sweet fuck all i'm guessing?

[BOSS 290]

how does the tree being there/not being there affect you?

other than giving you something to whinge about, sweet fuck all i'm guessing?

Who said I'm whinging. I'm not. I'm :lol:

[Lump]

Hahaha, suck shit pingpingpingpings. Good to there's more than one person who believes in sticking up for their rights.



LOL you keep saying sticking up for their rights... what rights do you mean?

the right for someone to occupy someone elses property?

btw this latest bloke to climb the tree is one of the guys that abandoned the tree up the road... guess how that one went? :shake:

what about your other points you made above? yeah i wouldnt bother arguing them anymore either... lol

[BOSS 290]

Yep, your right. No point arguing. Just let the council, and for that matter, any authority do what ever it wants.

We'll all just be good law abiding citizens (most of us, anyway) and comply without protesting.

[mitchy]

Yep, you're right. No point arguing. Just let the council, and for that matter, any authority do what ever it wants.

We'll all just be good law abiding citizens (most of us, anyway) and comply without protesting.

i'll certainly let them do their job when it comes to removing unprovoked/unpredictable dangers.

[BOSS 290]

i'll certainly let them do their job when it comes to removing unprovoked/unpredictable dangers.

Awww shit, that's reassuring.

You going to pay attention and not drive next time your told to as well? Huh?

[mitchy]

Awww shit, that's reassuring.

You going to pay attention and not drive next time you're told to as well? Huh?

certainly am. :)

seeing as we are now getting personal, and given you're so concerned about sticking up for your rights...
why did you remove the blower off your foulcan instead of sticking the IM240 tests to the man?

[BOSS 290]

certainly am. :)

seeing as we are now getting personal, and given you're so concerned about sticking up for your rights...
why did you remove the blower off your foulcan instead of sticking the IM240 tests to the man?

No, not personal, just making a point.

The money offered for the blower on the foulcan was a good enough reason to remove it. Further to that, it saved me the head fuck of going though IM240 :)

Never mind, the next model FPV will come factory fitted with a blower, saving the problem of IM240 testing :)

[Mistikal]

I'm all for sticking up for rights/etc, but sitting in a tree that's virtually a ticking-time-bomb is just plain stupid.

If the tree wasn't being replaced and there was no real reason to destroy it other than to clear some land for the council, then by all means I'd understand - but given that they want to replace it, just get rid of the damned thing.

[mr_rotary]

i'll certainly let them do their job when it comes to removing unprovoked/unpredictable dangers.
So you would never walk through bush or a forrest for fear of a branch falling on you let alone a dropbear? Some people need to harden up and learn to live a little. There are more dickheads on the road to worry about than a stationary tree.

http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/rro/lowres/rron864l.jpg

[KyeBidz]

I actually hope the tree stays now.

6 months time when a branch falls off and kills a couple of his family members, ill do a massive "we told you so" dance on their grave.

fucking spastics.

[mr_mike]

So you would never walk through bush or a forrest for fear of a branch falling on you let alone a dropbear? Some people need to harden up and learn to live a little. There are more dickheads on the road to worry about than a stationary tree.

http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/rro/lowres/rron864l.jpg

bar not driving at all can something reasonable be done about avoiding dickheads on the rd? something can be done to reduce the danger this tree MAY cause.
I'm sure if this tool wasnt up the tree and none of this happend and a branch fell from this tree landing on a car and causing a serious injury or even death every1 would be up in arms ready with the pitch forks and torches hammering the council for not removing the tree.

put it another way, say you have an old datsun, you know the brake master cylinder has siezed a couple times in the past resulting in loss of brakes so you dont drive the car, then some random comes along and starts driving ur dangerous car despite the fact u have told him the brakes are dodgy. his response is " well it never happened when i've been driving, must be ok" and continues driving it around.
The car is also insured in ur name so if something does happen its on ur head.

Who would be fine with that?

[Chase_d]

I actually hope the tree stays now.

6 months time when a branch falls off and kills a couple of his family members, ill do a massive "we told you so" dance on their grave.

fucking spastics.

That's exactly what the council has been trying to get across.

Branch may not fall today or tomorrow but when it does, who will get the blame...The Council or the retard that sat up there?

They should take a medium/large sized branch, drop it from the top of the tree onto the Tree man, if he is unharmed leave the tree/try again, if it causes [more] damages to him cut it down. That way he will probably actually need this disability pension he is receiving.

[mr_rotary]

I'm sure if this tool wasnt up the tree and none of this happend and a branch fell from this tree landing on a car and causing a serious injury or even death every1 would be up in arms ready with the pitch forks and torches hammering the council for not removing the tree.

put it another way, say you have an old datsun, you know the brake master cylinder has siezed a couple times in the past resulting in loss of brakes so you dont drive the car, then some random comes along and starts driving ur dangerous car despite the fact u have told him the brakes are dodgy. his response is " well it never happened when i've been driving, must be ok" and continues driving it around.
The car is also insured in ur name so if something does happen its on ur head.

Who would be fine with that?
Sorry, you are perfectly right. We should cut the forrests down just in case someone falls over and breaks their leg and flatten the hills as it may cause someone a heart attack as they try to get up it and while we are at it, get rid of all those dangerous red back spiders. Don't say I didn't warn you that they bite.

[mr_mike]

rarely inhabited bush- Busy urban street

NOT THE FUCKIN SAME

there is a big diffrence between some one walkin thru dense scrub and bush and a tree falling than some one casually driving down the street and having a branch crush their excel.

by ur logoc standing in the middle of the canning stock route gives you the same amount of chance of being hit by a car as standing on the mitchell fwy during peak hour.

[Lump]

Yep, your right. No point arguing. Just let the council, and for that matter, any authority do what ever it wants.

We'll all just be good law abiding citizens (most of us, anyway) and comply without protesting.
lol, i see, dont want to talk specifics now, just weak generalisations.

yep i think your done :)

[Butcher]

Ha apparently the tree is re-inhabited, two blokes are up there.

[mr_mike]

Broke Back Mountain II
Gum Tree Love

[ossie_21]

Him/them being up in the tree doesn't bother me, but all the attention for it does. It's not like no-one has ever done similar sorts of things in the past.

I'll prefer it when the thread reads Tree Man Falls though

[blaize]

so what could an individual be charged with for cutting the tree down while they are in it?

[KyeBidz]

first they have to be able to catch you... and prove it was you :)

[blaize]

now thats the thinking i was going for ;P

[KyeBidz]

http://www.wikihow.com/Fell-a-Tree

[mitchy]

i'd plow the 31 into the tree, but it would probably be lucky to remove some bark before making the numberplates touch

[shifted]

News says two more are in it. Attention seeking idiots.

[RK 86 WA]

let them rot up in that tree, the only losses is to their wallets in the long run anyway.

[Douche Bag]

What idiots.

[Fukushima]

haha just on the news, apparently all fenced off and is now a "council work site"

someone in a falcoun drives past and yells "fucking idiots"

[DanWA]

fuck i hate greenies, almost as bad as those dumb fuckers getting in the way of the japs then claiming they were rammed.

[mr_mike]

lol yhe claiming they were powerless and drifting when they were rammed but you can clearly see in the video footage there is a white trail under water coming of the props. doesnt make that trail if they aint spinnin

[dmwill]

It gets better....

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/newshome/7026706/tree-man-lashed-in-court/


In court, a subdued Mr Pennicuik, wearing a grey suit similar to the one given to him during a radio station makeover, told Magistrate Liz Langdon he would not enter a plea because his name was underlined, in capital letters and his surname was before his first name on the prosecution notice.

He said this was not his name as it appeared on his birth certificate.

Ms Langdon told Mr Pennicuik his argument was irrelevant and the way his name appeared did not make the prosecution notice invalid.

She described his argument as "absurd" and accused him of wasting the court’s time.

[Mistikal]

This guy really is a peanut... rocks in his head.

[Joe]

If I was the magistrate, I'd slap the cvnt with the harshest fine under the legislation for his offence.. teach him a lesson for wasting everyones time.

[stumps.]

Tree mans lawyer

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[Ryan1080]

I like it how he is claiming that councils are unconstitutional, I reckon that will be his main argument. Dumb pingpingpingping watched too much of the Castle...

[Mad_Aussie]

lol yhe claiming they were powerless and drifting when they were rammed but you can clearly see in the video footage there is a white trail under water coming of the props. doesnt make that trail if they aint spinnin


Obviously you havn't researched that one much... The video those blokes took from onboard the Andi Gil clearly show them all sitting on top of the boat yakking, and being told to shut it down due to low fuel. They talk about having had a good day and realized at the last minute the whalers were turning in towards them... very clearly on said video. They fire up the boat to try and evade it but was far too late.

As far as the tree man thing goes, well good on them for making a point. The council needs to back off now since that tree didn't get damaged in the recent storms, fairly solid proof that its not that dangerous. I think everyone's forgetting the fact that we want to keep trees as they are good for the environment. Someone's just as likely to have a sheet of tin off someones roof hit them in a storm as a branch falling, and I'd like to see the statistics of injuries relating to fallen branches in the city. Sounds to me like its just bureaucracy gone wrong.

[Chase_d]

Ignorance?

As stated all the times before, the council is planting another tree in the front verge. Is your logic, wait for the tree to fall then deem it unsafe?

[Mad_Aussie]

Ignorance?

As stated all the times before, the council is planting another tree in the front verge. Is your logic, wait for the tree to fall then deem it unsafe?

Bring up some facts as to how many people per year are injured by falling branches? I think you'll find such injuries only occur in a) storms, or b) when camping beneath a tree.
If you're walking in a storm, you're just as likely to be hit by any number of flying debris, and no one will camp under a tree on a road verge in suburbia. Plus I've not seen anything in that tree that looks like it could fall, apart from poorly constructed platforms in it.

[mitchy]

Bring up some facts as to how many people per year are injured by falling branches? I think you'll find such injuries only occur in a) storms, or b) when camping beneath a tree.
If you're walking in a storm, you're just as likely to be hit by any number of flying debris, and no one will camp under a tree on a road verge in suburbia. Plus I've not seen anything in that tree that looks like it could fall, apart from poorly constructed platforms in it.

so until someone gets injured/killed, it's ok to let these trees which are known to be 'self-pruning' drop branches without any notice?

we'll just play the luck game and hope no-one is underneath one when it does come down eh?

[Rantopotamus]

Im all for standing up for something. But can't the council atleast clean it up a bit? trim it??

Fuck we had big wattle tree and I knocked the pingpingpingping down one night because I was sick of sweeping the shit up!

Having dead branches and leaves n shit fall is what wuold piss me off.

[Mistikal]

Bring up some facts as to how many people per year are injured by falling branches? I think you'll find such injuries only occur in a) storms, or b) when camping beneath a tree.
If you're walking in a storm, you're just as likely to be hit by any number of flying debris, and no one will camp under a tree on a road verge in suburbia. Plus I've not seen anything in that tree that looks like it could fall, apart from poorly constructed platforms in it.

FACT: I personally know of (thru work) at least 5 families affected by this family of tree by falling limbs, with one man killed by a limb that fell on him in his backyard.

At work, whenever we have the chance these trees are decimated on the spot. Why? The above-mentioned fact.

These tree's, or at least the tree's species, are dangerous. As said before - sure, this one hasn't dropped a limb so far, but this type of tree drops limbs without ANY warning at all.

Are we just going to wait and be a typical government who undertake in 'reactive measures' after an incident has happened, or take 'proactive measures' and destroy the tree before it destroys someone's car/house/family?

I applaud the CoG action in removing this tree (and others in the street) to replace them with other natives. Good on them for taking the initiative and getting onto the issue before it turns ugly and someone is hurt and/or property is damaged. If they were just removing the trees for the sake of it without any replacement, then I'd be appalled.

[Mad_Aussie]

so until someone gets injured/killed, it's ok to let these trees which are known to be 'self-pruning' drop branches without any notice?

we'll just play the luck game and hope no-one is underneath one when it does come down eh?

Again, show me a list of injuries and dates over the last decade from when someone has been hurt or killed by a gum branch in the metro area. You'd ask the same when it came to anything else that's 'potentially unsafe' before taking corporal action.

Bitch and moan about banning of high powered cars without statistics.
Bitch and moan about censoring the internet without seeing evidence of it making a difference.
Bitch and moan about dropping speed limits without any statistics.

But a tree, which serves a useful purpose, is just fair game because it could be unsafe?

Power lines *could* get struck by lightning and fall over without notice... get rid of them?
Tin roofs *can* blow off in storms, causing damage or injury... ban tin roofs?
Waves *can* drown you at the beach... ban swimming?

Bring up some statistics and make it factual, not a fight over opinions. Its the councils "opinion" the tree is unsafe. But the facts are, no one has been injured by it, there are no immediately unsafe branches on it that couldn't be pruned off, and it withstood the strongest storm in nearly 2 decades without loosing a branch? Doesn't seem too unsafe.


FACT: I personally know of (thru work) at least 5 families affected by this family of tree by falling limbs, with one man killed by a limb that fell on him in his backyard.

thank you, there's some evidence. And tree falling injuries can be avoided by maintaining the tree. Lopping a tree down is a pretty strong measure when it doesn't take more than half an hour to prune a few branches.

[Mistikal]

Just because a tree has dropped one limb, doesn't mean it won't drop another. It's far safer to cut down a tree that has already posed a risk to safety, than to just prune it, cross ya fingers and hope it doesn't do it again.

Would you trust a tree hanging over your house/driveway/bedroom, knowing full-well that is has dropped a limb before and is potentially capable of dropping more limbs? I sure as hell wouldn't.

[Ryan1080]

Prevention is better than cure.

Chop down the treea and replace it with a safe one!

[Mad_Aussie]

Just because a tree has dropped one limb, doesn't mean it won't drop another. It's far safer to cut down a tree that has already posed a risk to safety, than to just prune it, cross ya fingers and hope it doesn't do it again.

Would you trust a tree hanging over your house/driveway/bedroom, knowing full-well that is has dropped a limb before and is potentially capable of dropping more limbs? I sure as hell wouldn't.

Ah but now that's taking it into a different context. This one isn't hanging over a house, or in any location where it could be a permanent danger. Its just an occasional 'danger', and even then, not a particularly big one.

Its sensible to cut down a precarious tree. One that's not doesn't need to be.


And in all honesty I'm just stirring the pot, I wholeheartedly want them to keep the tree because I'm not one for cutting the things down, but its interesting to weed out the people here that have a proper opinion on things, as opposed to the ones that ride the band wagon.

[Mistikal]

Ah but now that's taking it into a different context. This one isn't hanging over a house, or in any location where it could be a permanent danger. Its just an occasional 'danger', and even then, not a particularly big one.

The tree is actually only a few meters from the roadside - given a strong enough gust, it could quite easily drop a limp onto a passing car, or into Tree Man's front yard, etc etc. It's possible and plausible, and although it hasn't happened yet, doesn't mean it won't happen.


Its sensible to cut down a precarious tree. One that's not doesn't need to be.

Just because it hasn't yet posed a danger to the public, doesn't mean it won't in the near future. The fact that it might is enough to warrant it's removal.

Picture this - you personally know the owner of countries unsafest model of car, where-by if something happened they could end up seriously injured/killed or they unintentionally injure/kill someone else. At this stage, their car hasn't shown any signs of doing so, however that model is renowned country-wide for having issues and many many others just like it have been scrapped. Would you not want that person to remove that car from the road even knowing that theirs seems to be ok, or would you rather they own/drive a time-bomb that appears to be fine?



And in all honesty I'm just stirring the pot...

... I know ;) As am I...


I wholeheartedly want them to keep the tree because I'm not one for cutting the things down

We can agree to disagree I guess :p I can see the safety hazard that this type of tree possesses, given my experience and knowledge with what has happened in the past thru work, so I can see the justification that CoG have used in the warrant for it's removal.


but its interesting to weed out the people here that have a proper opinion on things, as opposed to the ones that ride the band wagon.

Totally agreed!

[Oversteer]

I`ve lived on 2 properties in Perth with massive ghost gums(150years old at least, 3 metre round stumps on the bigest ones)...if you know anything about ghost gums they do not drop limbs in storms !! They shed limbs at the most unexpected times....thats the nature of this very Very dangerous tree.

In the past 10 years we have had 2 cars damaged by the trees(dropping 1-2 tonne branches in the middle of a clear summers day)...to the point of "you just keep anything of value far away from the fuckers"....don`t park under them and certainly don`t sit under them for any period of time.....no go zone !

If your going to build anything near them its time for them to die....

[Rantopotamus]

^^ oh you guys are all like buddies now!

[mr_mike]

But a tree, which serves a useful purpose, is just fair game because it could be unsafe?

Power lines *could* get struck by lightning and fall over without notice... get rid of them?
Tin roofs *can* blow off in storms, causing damage or injury... ban tin roofs?
Waves *can* drown you at the beach... ban swimming?



A tree does serve a useful purpose agreed and as already stated it will be replaced with ANOTHER tree so thats that argument void.

Powerlines, regular maintencance is carried out and poles and swapped thru out the year to prevent this.(preventive measures)
a Tin roof has strict building guidelines they must adhere to to make them safe and fixings to stop the panels flying away again preventive measures. Waves are dangerous that is why there is life guards and if the surf gets to big beaches to get closed.
preventive measures to try and stop POSSIBLE harm or death much the same as removing this tree.

Ur much the same as the tree man basing ur whole argument on the fact the tree didnt loose any branches during the storm. Plus you keep on goin on saying you want facts, well heres a fact white/ghost gums self prune when the tree is short on water as a preventive measure to store the water inside them and not loose it thru the branches on hot days.
Taken from wiki.-
Dangers
Eucalypts have a habit of dropping entire branches off as they grow. Eucalyptus forests are littered with dead branches. The Australian Ghost Gum Eucalyptus papuana is sometimes called the "widow maker", due to the high number of tree-felling workers who were killed by falling branches. Many deaths were actually caused by simply camping under them, as the trees shed whole and very large branches to save water during droughts. For this reason, you should never camp under large eucalyptus branches.


I realise this does touch on ur previous mention of camping under trees but who is gonna be camping under a tree in Thornlie apart from this tool and his followers, its more likely to drop on a passing car.

[[Jacek]]

*has learnt something useful from this thread*

[DRKWRX]

Maybe Tree man is having an affair with this Cameron fellow, Trying to impress him like that episode of the Simpsons when Lisa climbed the tree to impress that hippy guy.

[TJ]

FUCK HIM AND HIS TREE

[Drift_R32]

Agree with the comment about those trees not dropping in storms and just at random times,

i have a park near me filled with same species and after the storm i was surprised to find nearly none had dropped branches. Yet some mornings ill drive past and see a massive branch dropped. Without wind been heavy the nite before.

Also if this tree was in your area...and it decided to drop a branch onto the power lines putting 100s possibly 1000s of houses into black out. you wouldnt be happy, nor would you be if it dropped a branch onto your car at 60kmph. The tree is been replaced with another..its not been taken down and been replaced with concrete.

Still unsure why or if he is actually on a disability pension or dole, if true..that fuks me off more then anything else about the situation.

[Lump]

im glad you were joking mad aussie, eventually anyway.

[shifted]

Is the tree down yet? Or is that new guy still in it?

[Lump]

tree is being cut down right now

[Wrexter]

tree is being cut down right now

:werd:

[Ryan1080]

Great success!!!

[RELEASE]

anyone see the news the other day when his muppet lawyer got kicked out of court he was trying to establish whether the laws/court were state or federal and if they were state were not recognised bla bla bla

the same crap the tree man was trying to spin about state laws/councils not legal. didnt think there was a lawyer dumb enough to push that argument

[Macca]

anyone see the news the other day when his muppet lawyer got kicked out of court he was trying to establish whether the laws/court were state or federal and if they were state were not recognised bla bla bla

the same crap the tree man was trying to spin about state laws/councils not legal. didnt think there was a lawyer dumb enough to push that argument

Didn't think he was an actual lawyer. Just some muppet that was trying to represent him

[ReaperSS]

That guys not a lawyer but he knows the law real well. He has got loop holes before for eg he hasnt paid his rates in 5 yrs!
He said to the council that he is putting the money into an account till they can prove to him what his money is paying for. They said it pays for street lights, bins, etc He showd them some pit of paper that states all that is payed but our taxes etc
he must have a case becse its been 5 yrs now and they havnt got a cent off him

[ReaperSS]

What the treemans argument is that the tree is on comenwealth land and we all as australians own comonwealth land so its our tree.
The council never got in to power because there was a referendum in 93 to give them power and they were voted out so how can a non constitutional body who had no power fine you and have any say what you do. Even the ranger doesnt work for the gov. The ranger has a "pty ltd" as a private company

[ReaperSS]

Im not for or against it but i do admire the "small guy" taking on such wankers as the councel

[stumps.]

According to the west website we are cutting down the tree as we speak.

My issue now is that there are 12 police officers protecting barricades out the front that obviously tax payers pay for.

Fuck this guy put him in jail

[kurbn]

Said Tree soon to be avail at your local BP.. 10 bucks a bag

[fourseven]

Im not for or against it but i do admire the "small guy" taking on such wankers as the councel

x100. People are too busy slagging off this redneck instead of looking at the bigger picture.

[ReaperSS]

I was thinking of getting many people together when the hoon laws came out. Everyone just accepted it like many opther stupid laws and now we are stuck with them.

In other countrys they riot and fire bomb . That gets the point across. In australia we take it on the chin each and every time

[shifted]

So we don't have to pay council rates or parking fines?

[ReaperSS]

So we don't have to pay council rates or parking fines?


If you know how to word it and know that part of the law then it sure looks like they have no power but personally i wouldnt risk it.

I got a parking fine $70 while doing pics of the tree mans tree. i just paid it but they were alls aying that they could get me off it.

[fourseven]

Im australia we take it on the chin each and every time

Hoon laws anyone? Much easier sitting behind our monitors bitching instead of actively doing something about it :p

[mr_rotary]

Hoon laws anyone? Much easier sitting behind our monitors bitching instead of actively doing something about it :p
Welcome to Australia

[Fukushima]

In other countrys they riot and fire bomb . That gets the point across. In australia we take it on the chin each and every time


City of Gosnells Chief Executive Ian Cowie said the City made the decision to cut down the tree two days ago, following concerns about small bombs exploding in the street.

wait... what?

[Ryan1080]

Oh come on, don't compare councils to hoon laws. What is wrong with councils? Nah wait, I should rephrase that (often they are run not too well)... what is wrong with the idea of a council? You need something to take your rubbish out, pay for and maintain streetlights, mow the lawn at the local park, clean the streets and so on. I'd rather pay a grand a year in rates and live in a nice maintained area then have my suburb turn into a ghetto. Some people (like this dude) are retarded. He should stand up for a worthy cause, not to challenge the principle of having a council ffs. If he doesn't like it, move to a ghetto suburb with no council. Idiot!

[Drift_R32]

haha people forget how easy we have it here..

you want pingpingpingpings running around the streets, looting stores, tipping over your car in and the street and burning it? to get a point across? get fukt...go move over there and see long you last. whinging pingpingpingpings...nothing wrong with standing up to the man, IF its something worthwhile, not wat this useless cancer of a person was doing.


So treeman takes council to court..who pays the councils lawyer fees? Government? so our taxs issit or am i wrong.

[Lump]

Oh come on, don't compare councils to hoon laws. What is wrong with councils? Nah wait, I should rephrase that (often they are run not too well)... what is wrong with the idea of a council? You need something to take your rubbish out, pay for and maintain streetlights, mow the lawn at the local park, clean the streets and so on. I'd rather pay a grand a year in rates and live in a nice maintained area then have my suburb turn into a ghetto. Some people (like this dude) are retarded. He should stand up for a worthy cause, not to challenge the principle of having a council ffs. If he doesn't like it, move to a ghetto suburb with no council. Idiot!

yep, and local roads, librarys, child care centres, sewerage etc etc.

dont know if its true about him not paying rates for 5 years but if so the bloke is even more of a dufus than i thought.

[Lump]

wait... what?
yeah, petrol bombs or similar were found in the street this week.

[fourseven]

I'm not comparing councils to hoon laws. I'm saying this country is full of whinging lazy pingpingpingpings who whinge about issues instead of fighting them.