Elec rust protection

[easytiger]

I hate the idea of rust. Nothing worse than knowing your car is effectively a refined mineral that came from the dirt and will one day end up back there.

I like the idea of having an electric pulse transmitted thru the car's structure to help inhibit the cancer.

Stumbled across this on Flee-Bay. So is it a scam or what. Will it prolong the cars life, or will i be aiding communism. Pretty small, how much of a current would it need to produce to be effective. Look how cheap it is. Where does that white wire go

Link: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Jeep-GMC-Electronic-Device-Rust-Protection-for-any-Cars_W0QQitemZ270509047951QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Ca rsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item3efb98808f

http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy308/xado2009/0004.jpg

Here's a better (more expensive & more local) one to compare it to.

Link: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Couplertec-Electronic-Rust-protection-for-Car-self-Fit_W0QQitemZ200411467636QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Car _Parts_Accessories?hash=item2ea9744f74

Anyone got any elec rust protection in their cars?

[magic1]

scam. close thread

[syther]

We fit electronic Anti-Corrosion Systems to a number of cars and trucks.
The brand of ours is "CAT" i think. and they are heavy duty units with water proof plugs on them . not too sure what they cost though

If you want more info ring 9430 5819 and ask to speak to Stuart. He tends to know all about this stuff.

[sethor]

Defensepak do one, no idea how much it costs. Most new cars no days are galvanized from the factory which makes these things useless.

http://www.defensepak.com.au/CECI.htm

[Saf]

I havent actually used one, but they are used in the military over on the east side of Euro i know that. How well they work i dont know.

They probably are a electonic version of the sacraficial annode setup thats run on boat motors, where you run a product made of a material that is easily prone to corrosion .... ?

[playe]

they dont work. its a load of crap.

[syther]

do we get proof that they don't work and not just you saying they don't work ?
if they didn't work i don't think that companies would get us to keep fitting them to their vehicles , but thats just what i think .

[playe]

had a few cars in at work. with these electrical rust protection devices fitted with rust through out the vehicles.

[Baggus]

see heaps of rangers and couries at work with these, sad to say i still see the odd bit of rust.

[syther]

can i call in " you get what you pay for " here ??

[perthute]

now when you find rust ''they'' will say oooo but thats on bubber mounts so it doesnt work there ..... but the hole cars on rubber tyres ?


the deal sealer was the electrical rust protection comes with a electrical fabric protection with some models lol come on its scam

for the guys that think electrical rust protection works get bare metal drip it in salt water hook up your electrical rust protection and give us a update :)

[2jzlux]

I find on the ones ive seen that more rust is actually created than not having one by the person who puts them on drills the holes out and leaves all the drill swarf under where they have installed it to rust all over the paint.
Seen heaps of used cars come in with the Cat and Defence Pak ones and they still rust.
Biggest scam ever, as good as getting rustproofing on a car made with galvanised panels.

[syther]

well the main reason why im saying they work is.
the companies get us to keep fitting them to their stuff , if they had problems i dont think they would get us to keep fitting them.
only on one car have i seen rust with a CAT anti rust system . and the rest was jsut around the pad.
when i get back to work tomoro i will question it and ask if i can setup a trial with one to see if it works or not .

[Lump]

sounds like a job for...


mythbusters lol

[syther]

or someone with too much time on their hands

[2jzlux]

well the main reason why im saying they work is.
the companies get us to keep fitting them to their stuff , if they had problems i dont think they would get us to keep fitting them.

Its called upselling/ripping off the customer.
Just because they sell them to people who dont know any better doesnt mean they work.

[Lump]

agreed on the upselling. wasnt until after i signed the contract for the terri, that the extended warranty, fabric/paint protection, elec rust proofing etc etc was offered.
puts you under pressure to make a decision just before delivery.

[syther]

but the companies we fit these to own the vechiles they are going into . and arnt being sold on . but see where u comming from on upselling

[easytiger]

Thought it might be a scam
Tempted to buy one and crack it open. Its probably 3 wires plugged into a potato

[Turbo2.6L]

Scam.
Buy a car cover instead.

[Z2TT]

I'd imagine as long as your paintwork is in good condition, and have no huge down to metal scratches you wouldn't need such a device.

[Zuicider]

they are buckets of crap, mates vs ute has one and its rustier than my vn. and the ute has paint

[vision_s15]

Just got a STX Navara Titanium edition from nissan,

got one of these fitted... would like to know a lot more info on them, im sure that nissan wouldnt sell em if they didnt work also

[Z2TT]

Probably doesn't totally stop the rust but slows it down, so I guess if you drive in rough conditions and leave the car outside still expect to get rust

[Fryman]

if the panels are galvanised and have no breaks in the galvanisation, then in theory this is meant to work. cant be assed doing the research in whether pulsing an electrical current through metal that has no corrosion actually works or not.

then again the principle was that the panels all had to be rust free and no car cancer present, if it has any rust then it wont work as the surface has already been broken with corrosion.

more research needs to be done on this

[Lump]

whats the panels being galvanised have anything to do with it?

if it works in practise it will protect galv./ungalv. steel just the same but ungalv. needs far more protection than galvanised obviously.

anyway most new cars arent galvanised, (with some cars nowadays some body panels are) would be surprised if a navara was thats for sure.

[mys1]

whats the panels being galvanised have anything to do with it?

if it works in practise it will protect galv./ungalv. steel just the same but ungalv. needs far more protection than galvanised obviously.

anyway most new cars arent galvanised, (with some cars nowadays some body panels are) would be surprised if a navara was thats for sure.

Actually they dip the shells n a galvaniseing primer, that way itgets into all the little gaps before they paint, quite a clever process actually, most jap and euro manufacturers do it now, not so sure on our chinese friends..

[Lump]

yes im aware of the process (its not a primer btw but electrolysis) - porsche invented/developed it for use in cars - they dipped the whole chassis & body panels seperately.

pretty sure most car makers dont go to porsche standards - they only tend to only do lower (susceptable) panels as the process is still very expensive.
I highly doubt many jap cars are fully galv - if at all in the navara's case.

and anyway my question to fryman, was what has that got to do with elec rust protection?

[family guy]

done rust proffing on land crusiers/trucks for salt mines, they coped 2 pac under body rust proofing, electric grease stuff in all the connections and denso tape to top it off, plus a few more things, Never seen said devices on the vechicles. and they are going to harsh conditions.

[AMPERAGE]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathodic_protection#Impressed_current_CP

That explains how it works for steel underground pipes. The theory is much the same for a car body. A properly designed system does in fact work but I wouldn't put too much faith in the Chinese eBay crap that's out there.

[hako]

they don't work ffs, see plenty of cars come into work with battery drain caused by these things when they pack up, and theres nearly always rust on the car somewhere.
as has already been mentioned it's called upselling, whether it's at pre delivery on a new car or later on down the track, they get fitted because someone is making money manufacturing them / fitting them.

[hopey]

got one in mums car. will rip it out and see whats going on inside. Its old but would still work on the same idea. And this one has been installed since the car was new, been on the car since 1989, the car is rusty compared to my 1985 4wd thats been through salt water, mud, dirt, panel damage etc. So i dont think these work either.

[vision_s15]

parents vs aclaim they got new did a full rust protection but that involved undercarage spraying ect none of this electrode stuff have not seen a spot of rust on the car yet. apparently interior n stuff was ripped out to do it properly... dono seems a bit extream. would have been good on my lux bottom of the rear doors are rusted out and tray is getting there since i took the canopy off lol