Was The Apollo Moon Landing Fake?

[ben351]

I love reading up on shit like this :) ....

my name gripe is ... why the fuck havent they gone back ... with technology as advanced as it is now n shit

what are your thoughts ?


9 SPACE ODDITIES:

1. Apollo 14 astronaut Allen Shepard played golf on the Moon. In front of a worldwide TV audience, Mission Control teased him about slicing the ball to the right. Yet a slice is caused by uneven air flow over the ball. The Moon has no atmosphere and no air.

2. A camera panned upwards to catch Apollo 16's Lunar Landerlifting off the Moon. Who did the filming?

3. One NASA picture from Apollo 11 is looking up at Neil Armstrong about to take his giant step for mankind. The photographer must have been lying on the planet surface. If Armstrong was the first man on the Moon, then who took the shot?

4. The pressure inside a space suit was greater than inside a football. The astronauts should have been puffed out like the Michelin Man, but were seen freely bending their joints.

5. The Moon landings took place during the Cold War. Why didn't America make a signal on the moon that could be seen from earth? The PR would have been phenomenal and it could have been easily done with magnesium flares.

6. Text from pictures in the article said that only two men walked on the Moon during the Apollo 12 mission. Yet the astronaut reflected in the visor has no camera. Who took the shot?

7. The flags shadow goes behind the rock so doesn't match the dark line in the foreground, which looks like a line cord. So the shadow to the lower right of the spaceman must be the flag. Where is his shadow? And why is the flag fluttering if there is no air or wind on the moon?

8. How can the flag be brightly lit when its side is to the light? And where, in all of these shots, are the stars?

9. The Lander weighed 17 tons yet the astronauts feet seem to have made a bigger dent in the dust. The powerful booster rocket at the base of the Lunar Lander was fired to slow descent to the moons service. Yet it has left no traces of blasting on the dust underneath. It should have created a small crater, yet the booster looks like it's never been fired.

[ben351]

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/moon.htm

[MikeS14]

go to youtube and search 'mythbusters moon hoax'
watch the episode and they bust all them points.

[ben351]

yeah cos the government paid them to do it

[RICEY]

lol surely someone has a powerfull enough telescope to have a look at the moon and see if the flags there hahaha

[MISS 13B]

I've always had the opinion that it was a hoax and always will.

[Lump]

yes, they definately went there.....sigh..

love that youtube clip of Buzz Aldrin punching that stupid cock that said it was all a fraud.
cant believe how many dumb fucks there are around..

[Alt_F4]

It's a hoax.
The moon aliens blasted the real Apollo and replaced it, and created half human, half alien clones of the original crew.

They did this so they could infiltrate society, steal our resources, and eventually know TJ

[magic1]

lol, the moon has some atmosphere.

[Lump]

btw why dont these conspiricy tools, ever say that other events were faked as well - like the 3 men that were burned alive on the launch pad (apollo 7 i think it was)
fucking clowns

[ReaperSS]

After watching countless dvd's on how 9/11 was staged by the US govenment, nothing will suprise me

[ben351]

settle down kemo sabi

[kiasu]

as fake as angelina's lips

[TJ]

It was really a japanese whaling ship doing research

[RICEY]

Its a bit wierd that all the people calling fake had nothing to do with the mission and that not one person involved with the actual mission has come out and said its fake. How do you keep thousands of people quiet for so many years?

[DRKWRX]

lol there is no doubt they went there, you think everyone involved in the whole thing wouldn't say a word after all this time that it was faked?

Here pictures of the Apollos on the moon, you can see everything in those photos, oh yes im sure they faked these too :lol:

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/multimedia/lroimages/apollosites.html

[mr_rotary]

Some very good sites with plenty of evidence on why it was faked:

http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicapollo.html

http://www.cosmic-conspiracies.com/apollohoax.html

[Ryan1080]

Let's not let the truth get in the way of a good conspiracy story :)

[DRKWRX]

Some very good sites with plenty of evidence on why it was faked:

http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicapollo.html

http://www.cosmic-conspiracies.com/apollohoax.html

lol watched the first vid, straight away airbrushing UFO's out...... evidence? more like loopers!

[MikeS14]

Half those points are bullshit anyway. I don't know anything about physics but this is what im guessing.

1. There is still atmosphere on the moon.
2 and 3. A camera mounted on the side of the lunar module took the photos.
4. Didn't look like they could move too freely.
5. Flare would fail because lack of oxygen on the moon.
6. Probably his own reflection on the camera lens.
7 and 8. mythbusters.
9. The Lander has a larger surface area than a boot so the dent isn't going to be as deep. EG. When you drive a car on sand the imprint isn't 10 times deeper than your footprint because its 10 times heavier than a human.

[Wrexter]

just anothe rplot conjured up by the US Goverment.....Just like 911.

There i said it.

[wadragracing]

Ahh conspiracy theories...made up from people who want to make their own lives seem important by criticising those whose lives actually are important.

[Jumanji]

It's a Hoax, the cold war was going on and the only reason the American's were interested is becuase they wanted to beat the Russians.

[Slip_]

btw why dont these conspiricy tools, ever say that other events were faked as well - like the 3 men that were burned alive on the launch pad (apollo 7 i think it was)
fucking clowns

Conspiracy tools?

People have every right to challenge whatever the fuck you think. Muppet.

THE WORLD IS FLAT!! NOT ROUND!! CONSPIRATOR!!! BE SILENT!!

[DRKWRX]

I like how people have ignored the actual pictures of the Apollos on the moon with footprint trails..........

[RICEY]

9. The Lander has a larger surface area than a boot so the dent isn't going to be as deep. EG. When you drive a car on sand the imprint isn't 10 times deeper than your footprint because its 10 times heavier than a human.

Plus the fact fuckall thrust is required due to the low gravity on the moon.

[mehow2g]

I like how people have ignored the actual pictures of the Apollos on the moon with footprint trails..........

Because this absolutely no technology that can make the exact same pictures... most households have photoshop.

[DRKWRX]

lol yeah Nasa just tells there guys to photoshop it up makes sense....... all these people are keeping these secrets hah.

[Ryan1080]

Hmmmm, I believe, and correct me if I'm wrong, but there was no photoshop back in the 60s...

[DRKWRX]

^^ the link i posted is photos taken by the Lunar Orbitor they're new photos which is why you can see the objects pretty good.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmVxSFnjYCA

mythbusters shine a fricking laser beam at the moon and the reflectors shine it back.

[Jawsh]

It has to be true, if it wasnt im pretty sure Russia would have said something, they would have been monitering the situation. After all it was in the height of the Cold War, they both hated each other so they would have tried to discredit it with facts.

[mehow2g]

Hmmmm, I believe, and correct me if I'm wrong, but there was no photoshop back in the 60s...

True but those pictures are still possible to stage with just a camera.

I dunno about the moon being staged but with Kennedy and 9/11 shit.. anythings possible.

[INSINR8R]

Fuck me the chick on Mythbusters is hot.

Oh and it wasn't a hoax. People think too much.

[Ryan1080]

True but those pictures are still possible to stage with just a camera.

I dunno about the moon being staged but with Kennedy and 9/11 shit.. anythings possible.

Are you saying that Kennedy's assassination didn't happen? It was all fancy camera work? Is he alive somewhere, hiding away from the public with Elvis? LOL!

[mehow2g]

Are you saying that Kennedy's assassination didn't happen? It was all fancy camera work? Is he alive somewhere, hiding away from the public with Elvis? LOL!

Government assassinated him is the conspiracy..

[Jumanji]

Also back then no one knew the environment of what the moon would look like, be like and what the effects to the human body would be, so for them just to set up a stage and jump on is very plausable on the basis that back then it was alot easier to fool people, i mean this was the era that war of the worlds was a radio show and sent america into mass histeria until they said it was a hoax.

And to be honest who would blame them they were in the hight of a war and nuclear strikes and kinds of bulshit, America just wanted to prove thier superiority over everyone else as they view themselves as the worlds biggest and most powerful nation on earth, and who was going to question them its the government, they would have had things locked up so tight that no one would have known about it.

[Scaf]

I believe it's fake, I always have. There are just way to many things pointing to it being a hoax.
The only thing that makes me think it's real is the fact that no one has come out and said anything after so long.

[DRKWRX]

all the things pointing to a Hoax are little things like Oh this flap was visible here but not behind him whats up with that or this shadow wasn't meant to be here etc no real larger scale evidence.

[shifted]

I have always thought it was fake, but I thought as well that they would have been there numerous times by now due to advancements in technology.

[Jumanji]

^ lol now they also have numerous advancements in photoshop too.

[fourseven]

NASA aren't broke from not sending people to the moon.

Not fake.

[Daisy]

why havent they been back to the moon?

[fourseven]

why havent they been back to the moon?

They are broke! Government won't prop them up with funds anymore.

[Jumanji]

if you think about it Nasa would be a good scapegoat for the governments secret expenditure elsewhere they could say that they have spent it all on space/technology advancements. Like a tax write off sort of thing.

[DRKWRX]

why havent they been back to the moon?

why? until they want to use the moon for something whats the point of going back?

[Scaf]

all the things pointing to a Hoax are little things like Oh this flap was visible here but not behind him whats up with that or this shadow wasn't meant to be here etc no real larger scale evidence.

I think thats what makes me think it's fake, the fact that it's all little things that they might have missed, or thought people would never pick up. I'd imagine the government would have put ALOT of money into making this seam as real as possible, if it were real there shouldn't be any of the mistakes shown on the previous page?

[Joe]

why havent they been back to the moon?

Spending $1,000,000,000 to collect some moon dust and rocks which they already have anyway, is a fairly pointless and expensive exercise... there is nothing else to see there!

[[Jacek]]

Exactly, they already have all the samples and shit that they need that can be tested a million times back here on Earth

Remember, they dont do this shit for shits and giggles

They've also been building the International Space Station etc... and exploring Mars - you think that's fake too?

[satch]

It was a bit off both actually.

The americans staged the landing to beat the russians to the moon, it was a huge deal back then, and it delivered a might kick to the USSR that has put them on a downer since.

They did actually land on the moon much later.

There was a big doco on it, think discovery or someone. They recreated the mock landing in a warehouse with lighting etc etc.

EDIT: think this is it - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0277642/

[fourseven]

The Americans spent a million dollars trying to invent a pen that would work in space. Pens don't work properly for obvious reasons.

The Russians spent next to nothing and took pencils.

Government don't like the fact that lots of funds have been spent on pointless shit, so they cut them off and NASA are now left to find their own cash. They expect to be back on the moon by 2020.

[Daisy]

Spending $1,000,000,000 to collect some moon dust and rocks which they already have anyway, is a fairly pointless and expensive exercise... there is nothing else to see there!

its actually cost 24 billion in 1969, which is

136,000,000,000 by todays value. lol.

[Joe]

The Americans spent a million dollars trying to invent a pen that would work in space. Pens don't work properly for obvious reasons.

You can now buy it at Esquires in Piccadilly Arcade for about $30.

[Lump]

Conspiracy tools?

People have every right to challenge whatever the fuck you think. Muppet.

THE WORLD IS FLAT!! NOT ROUND!! CONSPIRATOR!!! BE SILENT!!

well next time you sit in your nissan try questioning to yourself if it was actually built by volvo then.

[Lump]

Also back then no one knew the environment of what the moon would look like, be like and what the effects to the human body would be, so for them just to set up a stage and jump on is very plausable on the basis that back then it was alot easier to fool people, i mean this was the era that war of the worlds was a radio show and sent america into mass histeria until they said it was a hoax.

And to be honest who would blame them they were in the hight of a war and nuclear strikes and kinds of bulshit, America just wanted to prove thier superiority over everyone else as they view themselves as the worlds biggest and most powerful nation on earth, and who was going to question them its the government, they would have had things locked up so tight that no one would have known about it.
the orson wells war of the worlds thing was back in the 50's if i remember right.

also the russians were the first to put a manmade object on the moon. a remote control car, so i think nasa had a pretty good idea what the surface would be like.

but looks like 1/2 the people here probably dont believe that either

[PAGZ]

fuck the moon, 911 was fake!

[wadragracing]

This Moon Landing Looks Shopped I Can Tell From Some of the Pixels And From Seeing Quite a Few Moon Landings In My Time

[Lump]

you tube is blocked here, but theres a good video taken on the moon (apollo 17 i think)
search for hammer & feather on the moon & you will see an a good experiment.

[DRKWRX]

there are people out there who think the Holocaust never happened lol.

[Lump]

fuck the moon, 911 was fake!


911 conspiricies LOL
this thread was good too :)
http://www.antilag.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23280&page=9&highlight=towers

[Lonewolf]

Tin Foil hat time.

Course we went there muppets.

[Lump]

there are people out there who think the Holocaust never happened lol.

its a bit of a worry, isnt it...:eek3:

[PAGZ]

Honestly i couldnt give a fuck because its America and i hate them but when people say titanium turbines start melting with jet fuel somthing has to be wrong?

[Lump]

just look at whos saying it then look at fotos of all the other shit that was there & make up your own minds.
cheers

[mitchy]

i couldn't care less whether its fake or not..

i just love reading posts from people who are 110% sure they are correct, and everyone else is wrong. :wank:

[PAGZ]

i couldn't care less whether its fake or not..

i just love reading posts from people who are 110% sure they are correct, and everyone else is wrong. :wank:

Ur wrong!

[Lump]

i just love reading posts from people who are 110% sure they are correct, and everyone else is wrong. :wank:

there are lots of posts on here that you never question in that way tho.

your just being selective, good luck to you.

[SEXUAL TYRANNOSAURUS]

i couldn't care less whether its fake or not..

i just love reading posts from people who are 110% sure they are correct, and everyone else is wrong. :wank:

QFT...

NWR31, your the man!

[coFF33]

911 was the fakest shit ever. sooooooooooo much proof.

the moon landing was too long ago to say. but i still reckon fake.

You can make the average person back in 1969 believe more than you can make the average person believe in 2009.

[DRKWRX]

by the way, there wasn't just one moon landing they were quite a few! so they would have had to fake so much footage etc and the people involved in all that ahhh dunno how people can believe its fake! :shake:

[Joe]

This Moon Landing Looks Shopped I Can Tell From Some of the Pixels And From Seeing Quite a Few Moon Landings In My Time

WINNER!

[Gladio]

After watching countless dvd's on how 9/11 was staged by the US govenment, nothing will suprise me



+2
American goverment talk shit 95% of the time the way I see it.

[gav_wah]

if you think about it Nasa would be a good scapegoat for the governments secret expenditure elsewhere they could say that they have spent it all on space/technology advancements. Like a tax write off sort of thing.

What like a stargate program?

[Jumanji]

What like a stargate program?

well yes in a way but not fiction, i mean the American Nation generates lets just get a random figure, 500 Billion per annum where the hell does it all go i mean apparently they are in massive debt and the whole countries turned to shit, the dollars worth fuck all, so where is the money going it cant all be on nukes. Yet they can throw 100 Billion at Haiti or something like that at a drop of a hat.

( monitary Values may not be accurate.... My Apologies )

[Lump]

911 was the fakest shit ever. sooooooooooo much proof.

the moon landing was too long ago to say. but i still reckon fake.

You can make the average person back in 1969 believe more than you can make the average person believe in 2009.

lets not get into 911 in this thread, have a read of the old one & if you have any questions post away in there!

especially if you can quote me directly on any of my points you or others dont agree on.
cheers

[Lump]

and another thing.
if the moonwalk was staged, why didnt they get neil to do another take on the first words said by a human on another planet? - pretty important line that one..

he fucked up his lines & they didnt do another run for the camera, as you think they would have if it was staged..

[confuzion]

antilag is fake! it's all a conspiracy !

[Jumanji]

Simple answer google needs to come up with googlemoon.com.au so we can see the flag then if not we will know, also i wonder if they will do a street view. But pure believers will say then that Buzz Lightyear stole it or some shit. lol

[1JZVL]

What like a stargate program?

mmmm stargate shows are more believeable actually :( (special effects wise and their "theories")

theres too many dodgy videos and pictures for it really win me over (the moon landing).

tbh, i dont care.

[Alt_F4]

well yes in a way but not fiction
Stargate isn't fiction, MacGyver will kick your ass for insinuating such a thing

[mr_rotary]

Also back then no one knew the environment of what the moon would look like, be like and what the effects to the human body would be, so for them just to set up a stage and jump on is very plausable on the basis that back then it was alot easier to fool people, i mean this was the era that war of the worlds was a radio show and sent america into mass histeria until they said it was a hoax.

And to be honest who would blame them they were in the hight of a war and nuclear strikes and kinds of bulshit, America just wanted to prove thier superiority over everyone else as they view themselves as the worlds biggest and most powerful nation on earth, and who was going to question them its the government, they would have had things locked up so tight that no one would have known about it.
Spot on from a lot of sources I have read. Also only just revealed not so long ago Yuri Gagarin was also not the first man in space. At the time they had stretched the truth a little.

If you have a look at my post earlier on, you will see a comparison of US Vs. USSR space advances. Russia was so far ahead of the US and then the US pull the stunt of first to the moon! Makes you sit and think though.

[I <3 Judd 0kw]

the japs are meant to go to the moon in 2023,but then again the world is going to end in 2012 lol lol lol

[anton]

i believe it was fake, due to one thing the Van Allen Belt http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Allen_radiation_belt

its a belt of radiation (DERR ) the point is the shielding of the spacecraft back in the Apollo days was insufficient actually there is more shielding in a doctors office these days that in the craft they used to fly around in space
the astronauts who passed trough the belt appears unaffected by the radiation which is well IMPOSSIBLE.. second point is there are pictures of the US flag on the moon it appears to be waving in the wind....

for those that say that its not only the US that are lying its the whole world as the spacecraft was "Tracked" by multiple governments.. on that point i will concede that there was a spacecraft tracked, but its not like they had a camera outside the ship and could see the occupants it could have been a single man whom the government paid to go out and come back, then die of radiation poisoning i believe all communications were re-routed and the moon footage etc was pre-filmed and loaded onto the spacecraft .

and remember lockheed skunkworks started initial concepts for the F117 nighthawk (pointy stealth fighter ) back in the late 50's and the final design was penned in 1976 so people saying that the US lacked the technology to accomplish this are incorrect

[hostage_85]

i believe it was fake, due to one thing the Van Allen Belt http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Allen_radiation_belt

its a belt of radiation (DERR ) the point is the shielding of the spacecraft back in the Apollo days was insufficient actually there is more shielding in a doctors office these days that in the craft they used to fly around in space
the astronauts who passed trough the belt appears unaffected by the radiation which is well IMPOSSIBLE.. second point is there are pictures of the US flag on the moon it appears to be waving in the wind....

for those that say that its not only the US that are lying its the whole world as the spacecraft was "Tracked" by multiple governments.. on that point i will concede that there was a spacecraft tracked, but its not like they had a camera outside the ship and could see the occupants it could have been a single man whom the government paid to go out and come back, then die of radiation poisoning i believe all communications were re-routed and the moon footage etc was pre-filmed and loaded onto the spacecraft .

and remember lockheed skunkworks started initial concepts for the F117 nighthawk (pointy stealth fighter ) back in the late 50's and the final design was penned in 1976 so people saying that the US lacked the technology to accomplish this are incorrect

Ok, well i'm not guru on all this shit but hey, i beleive they did land.
Dunno about the radiation belt and all the other stuff you just said. But the flag has been proven on mythbusters. Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMBCfuKs9i8
That proves the a flag waves more in a vacuum than with no vacuum

[Lump]

i believe it was fake, due to one thing the Van Allen Belt http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Allen_radiation_belt

its a belt of radiation (DERR ) the point is the shielding of the spacecraft back in the Apollo days was insufficient actually there is more shielding in a doctors office these days that in the craft they used to fly around in space
the astronauts who passed trough the belt appears unaffected by the radiation which is well IMPOSSIBLE..
where does it say that? so you saying apollo 13 & all the other moon missions (landing or not) didnt happen

i was under the impression that solar radiation was far more dangerous than the van allen belts, yet we clearly see excellent vision nowadays from the shuttle in space. also the spacestation which can be clearly seen from earth & photographed with cameras by private enthuisiasts. - I have seen the spacestation fly overhead - just looked like a bright fast moving star.

the shuttles, the interplantary probes, with 'live' video, the hubble telescope, skylab, etc etc was all that fake too or was it just being on the moon that was?


second point is there are pictures of the US flag on the moon it appears to be waving in the wind....
the flag on the moon had a rod in the top of it to keep the flag fully displayed, it wasnt a typical flag..

for those that say that its not only the US that are lying its the whole world as the spacecraft was "Tracked" by multiple governments.. on that point i will concede that there was a spacecraft tracked, but its not like they had a camera outside the ship and could see the occupants it could have been a single man whom the government paid to go out and come back, then die of radiation poisoning i believe all communications were re-routed and the moon footage etc was pre-filmed and loaded onto the spacecraft .
the footage was prefilmed? i dont think so

and remember lockheed skunkworks started initial concepts for the F117 nighthawk (pointy stealth fighter ) back in the late 50's and the final design was penned in 1976 so people saying that the US lacked the technology to accomplish this are incorrect they stole that concept from the nazi's check out this baby!

horton 229 -
http://media.photobucket.com/image/horton%20229/HenkG/Horton229V1prototypeg.jpg

now explain to me how this was staged?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C5_dOEyAfk

[Lump]

Spot on from a lot of sources I have read. Also only just revealed not so long ago Yuri Gagarin was also not the first man in space. At the time they had stretched the truth a little.

thats interesting but it hardly supports the theory we didnt land on the moon..

where did you read that, because as a side issue its a huge call to say that?

maybe their definition of space was not exact or the exact altitude/definition of space changed?

If you have a look at my post earlier on, you will see a comparison of US Vs. USSR space advances. Russia was so far ahead of the US and then the US pull the stunt of first to the moon! Makes you sit and think though.

president kennedy publically declared that they were going to the moon before the end of the decade, they were incredibly brave men & i believe they did it, & quite a few times in the 70's as well
cheers

[anton]

im not saying we didnt go to space, im saying that the apollo landings are faked.

also the horten 229 design was copied from the Northrop design which inturn was stolen from a frenchman back in the days of flight not being acheived

the horten 229's first flight was in 1944 where the northrom N-1M's first flight was in 1941
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/17/Northrop_N-1M_Udvar-Hazy.jpg/800px-Northrop_N-1M_Udvar-Hazy.jpg

this is a bad subject for me, nothing anyone says can change my mind... i dont think we went and this US we are going to the moon again BS is just so they can get the data etc that they supposedly have, time will tell if in 10 years they still haven't gotten to the moon you can assume they never went

[Lump]

im not saying we didnt go to space, im saying that the apollo landings are faked.

why did nasa let armstrong stuff up one of the most famous lines ever to be put on film then if it was staged?

solar radiation (what you get when you leave the protection earths atmosphere is more dangerous than the van allen belts - this shit comes from the sun remember) where does it say that the van allen belts are more dangerous than this???

as a side issue the northern lights (& the aurora borialis) are caused by solar radiation & the van allen belts very close to earth. the van allen belts are not an issue - solar radiation is..


also the horten 229 design was copied from the Northrop design which inturn was stolen from a frenchman back in the days of flight not being acheived

the horten 229's first flight was in 1944 where the northrom N-1M's first flight was in 1941

it wasnt so much the shape/design of the horton - it was designed to evade radar which hadnt been invented when the one your talking about was concieved i believe. thats why its regarded as the first stealth aircraft.

happy to be corrected on that, but we are talking about the apollo missions
cheers

[Lump]

nothing anyone says can change my mind...
i believe they went but my mind is not closed to GOOD information, which seems lacking for the case of it being a fake.

[Lump]

btw anton, did you read that wiki link on the van allen belts?

heres a quote
"The belts are a hazard for artificial satellites and moderately dangerous for human beings"

pretty sure geting strapped to a fuckin massive rocket full of fuel would be considered more than moderately dangerous lol

heres some other info i just found-

Mission planners knew the Apollo astronauts would be at grave risk if a strong solar flare occurred during a mission. The short duration of each trip was a key to creating favorable odds.


"A big solar event during one of those missions could have been catastrophic," said Cary Zeitlin, a radiation expert at the National Space Biomedical Research Institute at Baylor College of Medicine in Houston. "The risk was known. They gambled a bit."

[Fukushima]

pingpingpingpings will believe anything

i love how that statement works both ways

[Fryman]

i believe it was fake, due to one thing the Van Allen Belt http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Allen_radiation_belt

its a belt of radiation (DERR ) the point is the shielding of the spacecraft back in the Apollo days was insufficient actually there is more shielding in a doctors office these days that in the craft they used to fly around in space
the astronauts who passed trough the belt appears unaffected by the radiation which is well IMPOSSIBLE.. second point is there are pictures of the US flag on the moon it appears to be waving in the wind....

for those that say that its not only the US that are lying its the whole world as the spacecraft was "Tracked" by multiple governments.. on that point i will concede that there was a spacecraft tracked, but its not like they had a camera outside the ship and could see the occupants it could have been a single man whom the government paid to go out and come back, then die of radiation poisoning i believe all communications were re-routed and the moon footage etc was pre-filmed and loaded onto the spacecraft .

and remember lockheed skunkworks started initial concepts for the F117 nighthawk (pointy stealth fighter ) back in the late 50's and the final design was penned in 1976 so people saying that the US lacked the technology to accomplish this are incorrect

thats teh first coherant sentence ive heard you say on here.. kudos to you for coming out and graduating from the yellow bus with the stack hat!

[Turbo2.6L]

I've been on the moon 4 times pingpingpingpings!
Suck it if you aren't a believer :D

[Lump]

lol
no wonder theres so much confusion out there..
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/hoaxes/moonhoax.asp

[mr_rotary]

Watch closely at 1.00 and give a logical explanation!

http://www.ufos-aliens.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/apollofilm.rm

[Anaru]

I love when people think it was a hoax.

Because yeah, they've been to many moon landings and can tell how to spot a fake landing from a real landing, fucking lol, put the crack pipe down hippies.

[Bomber]

Watch closely at 1.00 and give a logical explanation!

http://www.ufos-aliens.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/apollofilm.rm

I've tried VLC, WMP and PowerDVD trying to watch this. Is there any player to play this WITHOUT having to give my CC details over the internet to view it (for a supposedly "free" trial player)?

[DRKWRX]

I cant get it to work either, But anything from a UFO website loses all credibility imo lol.

[DTM-031]

I've tried VLC, WMP and PowerDVD trying to watch this. Is there any player to play this WITHOUT having to give my CC details over the internet to view it (for a supposedly "free" trial player)?

you need real player for it

[Slip_]

All Pseudo intellect speculation aside...

What needs to be appreciated... is the fact that if we're all just taking the good ole USA's word for it on this one.

Fuck your "we've 100% been there"... "its a fact"... "LOL at conspiracy".

Until another nation gets up there and confirms USA's landing on the moon... how can we be sure... in the meantime... every fucking cat and his dog has the right to question the shit out of every element of the moon landing.

[DRKWRX]

You would never be able to keep something on that scale a secret if it was faked, Id take the thousands of people involved over that 10 years word for it over some Conspiracy theorists on the internet picking shit in photos etc.

[schnoods]

I reckon the only way people will ever believe people have landed on the moon is to be put on the bloody moon themselves.

[Lump]

Watch closely at 1.00 and give a logical explanation!

http://www.ufos-aliens.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/apollofilm.rm
i tried looking at this but its all to hard for a technophobe like me.

got a youtube link, or just give me the gist of it?
cheers

btw can you explain the hammer/feather video or the awesome colour photos of earth taken from the moon (with lunar background) - technology wasnt real good in the 70's to fake fotos like that

[Lump]

http://www.cosmos4kids.com/extras/dtop_earth/moonearth_580.jpg

http://astroprofspage.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/20071113_kaguya_03l.jpg

[Slip_]

Oh damn. i havent seen those. fuck. i guess your right.

[Lump]

yes & when seen with 'reasonable' colour video footage from the later apollo missions i think they in themselves make a pretty strong case.

the video of the GM made lunar rover blasting around the place is good too

[Slip_]

All well and good... barely infallible though.

[Lump]

well ive never seen the pyramids in egypt or the statues on easter island with my own eyes, but i believe they are there

[Fukushima]

i am not convinced the city of new york exists as i have never been there

whole thing is made up in hollywood

[1JZVL]

well ive never seen the pyramids in egypt or the statues on easter island with my own eyes, but i believe they are there

er.

[Lump]

i
whole thing is made up in hollywood

yeeah those hollywood special effects in the 70's were fucking realistic..
:lol:

[Lump]

er.

yeah, probably not the best example, so fucking what.
:)

[fourseven]

I don't care what anyone says about it being real or fake.

Watching Jack Schmitt on Youtube struggling to stay on his feet on the "moon" is funny as fuck.

[RICEY]

yeah, probably not the best example, so fucking what.
:)

hahaha

[MrSparkle]

I used to wonder about the moon landing and if it happened or not. I saw that episode of mythbuster and it answered a lot of the questions i had. After watching it i thought that it had happened and it was never in doubt. I visited the kennedy space centre in cape canavrel last year and there is no doubt in my mind that they visited the moon and the entire space program exists.

There is just too many facts, too much info and the more you learn about the space centre and the people that have passed through it the more you will believe it happened. If you think its fake or didnt happen i think you would be convinced otherwise once you had visited the place and asked all those questions you had.

At the space centre they give you the opportuinty to meet astronauts and in the "hanger" ( i cant remember what they called it) where they keep the rocket thats complete but gives an exploded view of each part (as they break off in space) they have some engineers that used to build the space crafts and you are able to ask them any questions you might have. One of the guys that was there when i was hammered this old bloke with every conspiracy theory you could think of and every question he had came back with a decent, thorougly explained answer. Being NASA he was even able to use certain items (That were actually functional) to explain the answers.

EDIT : If you dont believe the hype then i suggest if you get the chance to visit the space centre take it. Im pretty sure they enjoy busting the conspiracys wide open with facts and not just some b/s you found on the internet.

*just for the record im pretty sure 9/11 and the kennedy assasination are b/s (or at the very least they arnt telling the full story) so i dont believe everything i get told.*

[Lump]

I*just for the record im pretty sure 9/11 and the kennedy assasination are b/s (or at the very least they arnt telling the full story) so i dont believe everything i get told.*
without getting into 911 in this thread (there is one on here allready thats not closed, that you might like to read/reply too), if you have any real interest in the subject download the official 911 commision report here.


http://govinfo.library.unt.edu/911/report/911Report.pdf

its 7meg but its the best DETAILED summary of the whole event ive read.
and before anyone says its written by the us govt & cant be trusted - well, look at all the third party witness statements & references etc etc it has &
then read all the conspiracy stuff you want & just like the info you saw at nasa make up your own mind.
cheers

[Lump]

Also only just revealed not so long ago Yuri Gagarin was also not the first man in space. At the time they had stretched the truth a little.
.
im callng bullshit on this, where did you get this garbage from? :)


here's something else for all you fake moon landing believers to consider if you can.

If the usa faked the moon landings the russians would have known or at least cried foul & then completed their plans to be first.. which they didnt do.

If anyone wasnt going to believe it then or now, it would be them.

and for anton that says its too dangerous for humans to go that far in space you must be saying the 2 other apollo missions where they orbitied the moon in 1968 & the aborted apollo 13 mission were faked as well?
cheers

[Niva]

They landed, yes. what they found.... we didnt get the whole story

[TJ]

Maybe today tonight edited their entrys into topgear in space and then showed them to the world

[Lump]

They landed, yes. what they found.... we didnt get the whole story



agree on first part, second part im not sure of.

i think they didnt find much at all personally.
would luv to think they met ET but i highly doubt it

[Niva]

I'm not saying they met ET. Just saying the moon isnt as plain old history lacking chunk of rock they lead us to believe it is.

Dont even get me started on Mars hahaha

[Lump]

may as well tell me what you think, I dont think the moon landing doubters are coming back lol

[Niva]

http://www.unexplainable.net/artman/publish/article_762.shtml

No longer am I going to waste my breath on people trying to convince them of this that or the other, becouse thats not what its important... if you can just get people to question things them selfs thats enough. no matter what conclusion they come to.

[ovaxitd]

personally no they didnt land on the moon... if it was so easy back then with sticky tape and straws then why havnt we gone back every weekend??

[Niva]

what for?

[Lump]

personally no they didnt land on the moon... if it was so easy back then with sticky tape and straws then why havnt we gone back every weekend??

because nasa ran out of sticky tape obviously :eek3:

[Lump]

http://www.unexplainable.net/artman/publish/article_762.shtml

No longer am I going to waste my breath on people trying to convince them of this that or the other, becouse thats not what its important... if you can just get people to question things them selfs thats enough. no matter what conclusion they come to.

yes, ive read about this stuff before & the face & pyramids on mars.

im not convinced at all & ive basically written these off, but im not closed to it, so i will have another read & see if i can change my mind on it.
cheers

[Lump]

http://www.unexplainable.net/artman/publish/article_6274.shtml

ok, first of all im pretty sure armstong didnt have a mobile camera up there, only fixed ones.
also even tho the tv pic quality is not the greatest on the well know vision we have seen, the quality of that vid is far worse.
also if armstrong was walking around taking that video it would not be that smooth, he would be jumping around alot as smooth walking is very difficult on the moon.
when apollo 11 landed they were quite a way off course because the targetting computer fucked up, they manually landed with only 15sec of fuel left. so with this video above showing the eagle near the alien building seems very convienient.
also 'buzz' that is in shot a couple of times does not bounce or 'float' like they do in all the other apollo moon videos.

definately seems fake to me.

i watched another of the videos in the link provided with the structures on the moon, sorry didnt see anything useful there, just craters & blurred out shapes, that were probably nothing anyway. structures that the bloke was describing - cooling towers etc etc need lots of other supporting structures etc not just desolate landscapes with a couple of blurred areas.

will keep looking at them tho

edit: trying to be impartial, but all that stuff is in those links is a crock, would love to see more info if you have it tho.

[Niva]

Hard not to agree with you on some points, as i said before just good to see people making their own mind up.

http://www.truthed.com/forums/showthread.php?t=606&highlight=moon+buildings

pretty good website to have a look around, lots of diff topics coverd

[Lump]

one or two semi interesting fotos there but nothing much at all really.

its no secret that us astronauts saw 'ufos' (in the strictest definiton) in space, but moonbases & structures are another thing totally.

[Anaru]

personally no they didnt land on the moon... if it was so easy back then with sticky tape and straws then why havnt we gone back every weekend??

because yeah, NASA is going to spend billions of dollars every weekend just to collect more dust they already have.

:slap:

[Dagon]

This is long dead, but whatever...
"The Americans spent a million dollars trying to invent a pen that would work in space. Pens don't work properly for obvious reasons.
The Russians spent next to nothing and took pencils."

Did you run an electric current through a pencil in year 9 in school? Yeah, the lead (or graphite, as most people know) is electrically conductive.
Y'know how when you use a pencil, it can smudge? That's because when you use a pencil it has tiny bits that break off and fall onto the surrounding paper. Try it, you can make your finger dirty with it.

What you most definitely DON'T want is tiny, electrically-conductive particles floating around in zero-g in the control room of your multi-billion-dollar spacecraft.

There is a very good reason why they spent so much money developing that pen - because the US are powered by safety-concious corporations.
There's a very good reason why the russians DIDN'T do this... because they're dodgy drunk mofos. Just look at all the "Russian Engineering" pics floating around the net =P

NASA used to have a huge budget. One of the reasons we haven't gone back to the moon in the last 20ish years is because they don't have such a huge budget any more, because we've reached the limit of what we can do with current technology and we aren't bringing in much interesting news.

If anyone still thinks it's a hoax, PM me one (serious) question or "proof" that it was faked at a time, and I'll give you an answer explaining why it's bunk and they really did land.

[Niva]

excellent punctuation and grammar

[Jiblet]

I believe they landed.

The moon has no atmosphere (to the person who said it did a while back).

Humans are curious folk. This is the reason why we have spent so much money on programs to "look at dust". Also, in looking at "moon dust" they have realised that the moon was at one stage part of the earth (because of its composition) and it was ejected by a large impact when the earth was forming.

Also, the scientists knew roughly what space was like yeah? So, how do astronauts train for space? In zero-gravity chambers. This, i would say, is why they were so composed when walking on the moon. Your not going to go to a remote place unprepared and show a video to the nation of astronauts floating off into space?

[coFF33]

If we had gone to the moon (the human race)
we would have gone back there since

end of story


its fake, just like 9/11,
just like Y2K,
just like weapons of mass destruction.

[Lump]

If anyone still thinks it's a hoax, PM me one (serious) question or "proof" that it was faked at a time, and I'll give you an answer explaining why it's bunk and they really did land.
dont bother, there are too many people on here that have made up their mind with no real knowlege except what they've seen in the movies..
let them keep their heads buried in the sand, thats obviously what they want.

[Dagon]

If we had gone to the moon (the human race)
we would have gone back there since...hate to break it to you mate... We did. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_landing)
dont bother, there are too many people on here that have made up their mind with no real knowlege except what they've seen in the movies..Sometimes I get the feeling that they're just getting me riled up for shits and giggles... but I'm socially retarded and not good at telling these things =P

[yeahlow34]

its fake, just like 9/11

Pretty sure I saw two commercial planes fly into the twin towers. I have been to New York since and there is definately no towers standing.

Seems real enough to me.

[Lump]

coff33 if you really have anything of value to add to the 911 story do it here - but read the whole thread first..

http://www.antilag.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23280&highlight=911+towers

[ben351]

This is long dead, but whatever...
"The Americans spent a million dollars trying to invent a pen that would work in space. Pens don't work properly for obvious reasons.
The Russians spent next to nothing and took pencils."

Did you run an electric current through a pencil in year 9 in school? Yeah, the lead (or graphite, as most people know) is electrically conductive.
Y'know how when you use a pencil, it can smudge? That's because when you use a pencil it has tiny bits that break off and fall onto the surrounding paper. Try it, you can make your finger dirty with it.

What you most definitely DON'T want is tiny, electrically-conductive particles floating around in zero-g in the control room of your multi-billion-dollar spacecraft.

There is a very good reason why they spent so much money developing that pen - because the US are powered by safety-concious corporations.
There's a very good reason why the russians DIDN'T do this... because they're dodgy drunk mofos. Just look at all the "Russian Engineering" pics floating around the net =P

NASA used to have a huge budget. One of the reasons we haven't gone back to the moon in the last 20ish years is because they don't have such a huge budget any more, because we've reached the limit of what we can do with current technology and we aren't bringing in much interesting news.

If anyone still thinks it's a hoax, PM me one (serious) question or "proof" that it was faked at a time, and I'll give you an answer explaining why it's bunk and they really did land.

Do you work at Bunnings ?

[Dagon]

Nope... what made you think that?

[ben351]

My missus does, and is on a training course and one of the trainers used that as an exmple the pen and pencil thing ... thought it was odd you also mentioned it

[Dagon]

I'm just full of random semi-useless facts, is all =)

[Mad_Aussie]

Pretty sure I saw two commercial planes fly into the twin towers. I have been to New York since and there is definately no towers standing.

Seems real enough to me.

Thats just what they want you to think...

http://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2009/12/3/saupload_tinfoil_hat.jpg

[Dagon]

Should totally setup shop for those hats... They'd sell like hotcakes! Ooh! Especially if they smelled like hotcakes! (http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/action_figure)

[Slip_]

Lol @ poll outcome

[wormbo2]

Keen for Hotcake hat Dagon!
are they custom fit? haha

[DrNick]

Did they really spend a million dollars on a pen?
I've seen those space pens, its just a normal ball point but has a funky refill with gel in it... Wohoo.. I bet it cost $50 to invent that and they spent the rest of the money on hookers and blow :)