Another yellow sticker thread

[Lonewolf]

Well got my first one today after 7 years of modded cars, pretty good innings!

List:
Suspension check - apparently front might be too low (only lovells 'lows')
indicators - darkened, which i think they've been texta'd, easy to undo
exhaust - too loud, booked in to get a flanged quiet muffler thats easily swapped
engine modifications - heard them talking about the pod filter, heres hoping they dont get shitty about the extractors etc.


Now, I have a brake upgrade, I wanted to try and get it over with it on there, think this is a good idea or better off converting back to stock?

Any other general things i should check over?

Cheers

[The_Hunster]

dude i got over with a brake conversion which required bolt on spacers for stockies to clear so i think you should be safe provided they're not to conspicuous...while i believe preparing ur car for the pits is important so as to show them respect, i think any big/costly jobs should be waited on unitl they actually pick up on it, cos most of the time u get away with a lot of shit if the car is in a generally good cond.

[Lonewolf]

i dont have spacers, but 4 pot wilwoods and technically non-ADR braided brake lines.
All on proper adapters etc, but it would be nice for them to sign off on them if i go over.

[lambchops]

Do you get permits from passing pits with what you have on the car?
So if you get yellowed for having a pod filter can you get a permit for it through the pits??

I passed with coilovers and would of liked to get a permit but i did'nt ask how to go about getting a permit for them.

Also degrease underneath your car and your engine bay to get rid of any oil. It really depends on who you get on the day though. Maybe try going between xmas and new years because the pit inspector may be in holiday mode and not be so picky? Just a thought

[kurbn]

these are the biggest things the pits have a problem with with all cars.. so make sure you go prepared -

Washer Bottle level - ensure it is full otherwise they see it as a defect if there is no water spraying

Number plate lights - ensure they work obviously

Play in any of the wheels - They jack car up and rock the wheel up and down and side to side to check for any play in wheel brgs/balljoints/bushes

Seat belts - make sure they retract fully, lock and stalks work correctly

Washer jets - to spray correctly

Headlamps/tail lamps work correctly (high beam/park/indicators ect)
also make sure you have a 3rd brake lamp (spoiler/back window)

Horn - Operates correctly

Idle - make sure its not too high or fluctuates

Steering rack boots/cv boots are not torn

Make sure engine number is readable

Check that Spare wheel is secured and also pod filter needs to be fixed by a bracket to something so it is sturdy.

Remove any oil leaks/oil wetness on motor and gearbox

They don't like LOUD exhausts

as much as I can remember at the moment.. It also helps to talk to the guy nicely and perhaps ask him about his week..and respect that he is just doing his job.

Don't EXPECT to go over first time.. its rather rare unless your car is imac and within legal standards

[Chase_d]

Regarding air filter you should be fine, but if you have the stock air filter and it still fits would probably best putting it on – less stuff for the to even get suspicious about.

Extractors should be fine – Exhaust wise I was told as long as it’s not a straight through pipe from the headers you should be fine – its just noise under the certain limit, they will no doubt thrash your car on the drive. If you can – put a silencer in, it got me over fine.

Brakes should be fine – I can’t imagine them complaining your car stops better from factory? Are all your brake lines legal and secured correctly – got done as brake lines were cable tied around coil-over as they didn’t have any mounts for brake lines.

For height, my car failed when it went over pits and lowest point was 110mm or 120mm off the ground as the inspector insisted when the car was ‘loaded’ it would drop below legal height (even though the car was a registered 2 seater) – could apply to you as your cars a 5 seater...

Just remember to check little (most obvious) things like battery is secured tightly with no movement, cables are neat and tidy and not loose, headlights are all adjusted to correct angle and all bulbs work.

[Lonewolf]

cheers for that!
is it legal to not have a spare tyre?
I have one in the car but cant secure it...

will need to call the DPI to ensure they have my new engine number on file, submitted a form ages ago but they never sent a confirmation :(

[Chase_d]

sorry - post above mines sums up what i said pretty much...

this thing about 3rd brake light? is it essential? my car passed without one - but it came out from factory like that...does that mean its fine? (sorry to take it a little off topic)

[Lonewolf]

oh, and booked into the exhaust shop tomorrow to get a flanged spare exhaust section with necked down size and a quieter muffler for street use.

if they whinge about suspension height then i'll buy coilovers to raise it up to std height, was on the to buy list anyway.

[Chase_d]

cheers for that!
is it legal to not have a spare tyre?
I have one in the car but cant secure it...

will need to call the DPI to ensure they have my new engine number on file, submitted a form ages ago but they never sent a confirmation :(

i couldnt secure mine either, is there anyway you can use a jack to force it to stay in tyre well - its what i had to do, they will check tyre is there - wont check if its fixed but if they drive and hear it loose they will fail it.

They didnt seem to care about the engine number with my car - it changed completely from a D16A8... to a ZC....
suggested to me to go get engine number change form as he handed me my keys back...(2nd attempt)

[Lonewolf]

so they do care if you dont have a spare tyre?
What about cars that come without one std (e.g. can of goo?)

No way i'll be able to secure it

[kurbn]

him having braided lines will be the hard bit I would of thought as they need to be ADR approved. Not sure exactly how you go about proving they are however.

I am not sure if you HAVE to have a spare wheel but the whole idea of it being fixed is so that it doesn't become and projectile in an accident.

I mentioned about the 3rd brake light because I have been caught out twice for not having one, however a few base model early 90's cars do not have them but like the cat converter I was under the impression it was after a certain year of manufacture date it was compulsory

what car have you got chase_d

edit: forgot to mention.. you are only aloud 2 rim sizes larger than what your car was released with. So if your sticker inside your door says 14" then you will not be aloud to have 17's. Unless you have someone who doesnt notice.

I have made new tyre placards in the past with Jac label and a bit of photoshop so don't be too concerned.

[Chase_d]

pretty sure if u have a can of that goo stuff that should do - i think heard of people passing with it - but cant quote me on it.

a friend of mine put one spare on and went to the pits like that and threw the mag in the back seat - said he had a flat on way to inspection and his mag (was a 17") couldnt fit in the spare tyre section.

[Lonewolf]

im only on 16's now, stock was 14's so ok in that respect.
The spare is a 17" and doesnt really fit the wheel well properly, the whole boot has no trim.

Have a high level brake light in the wing, all good on that front.

If they dont like the brakes its no biggie, i have the shitty standard brakes and lines spare.

[kurbn]

sounds good.. now the rude part seeing you have not been to the pits for a while..


Its now $85.60 to get your car inspected and $59.70 for re-inspections.

[Chase_d]

i have a 1988 CRX - so its the old semi boxy door wedge weird shape one...
never came out as factory - i know it had a rear spoiler that was removed (holes been welded up) but spoiler never had one either.

anyway stuff i got picked on which they may be picky about...

Trailing arm bushes
battery: not secure enough (bolt missing off battery tray)
forklift damage: (doubt u will have that problem)
headlights: not aligned properly (had to swap headlights sas previous ones were painted black and running HIDs)
number plate lights: could see bulb from rear of vehicle
brake lines: werent properly secured...
first attempt brake lines were cable tied - failed
2nd attempt i tried this - has worked for many people yet still failed
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u19/bau_fug/DSC01272.jpg

aslong as they are ADR approved and you can prove that and are secured (like factory) you really shouldnt have dramas. The guy i had just messed me around as was going to fail me just for that so i put standard suspension and came back same day and passed.

[space]

Well got my first one today after 7 years of modded cars, pretty good innings!


7 years with no canary, thats a pretty good run. you obviously need to drive harder and put a bigger exhaust on!

how did you get done (ie pulled over, rbt) and exactly what for?

[Lonewolf]

haha, driven plenty hard!
pulled over for giving it a bit of a squirt, police car was a few cars back, couldnt do me for anything else so gave the car a once over and sticker.

I'll cop that.

[DISTRBD]

Now, I have a brake upgrade, I wanted to try and get it over with it on there, think this is a good idea or better off converting back to stock?

Any other general things i should check over?

Cheers


Leave brakes on ..

[Lonewolf]

exhaust is done, pea shooter spec.
Rear swaybar mount is now fubar, another thing for the list!

[Torquen]

You dont HAVE to have a spare tyre to pass. The rule states that if you have a spare then it must have a legal amount of tread on it, and it must be secured tight.

[Turbo2.6L]

Which inspection centre are you going to?
Warwick seems to have good reports from most...

[Lonewolf]

ossie park, just down the road.
torquen: cheers, will leave it out then

[joshg123]

They wont like your cold start blake, need to take it to them hot fo sure!

3000rpm untill operating temperature then a violent rotational idle does not really seem like it will pass

[Lonewolf]

its actually fine now since the manifold came off and on again....
Just need the throttle cable adjusted to get rid of that free play.

May need to move the cams back to 0/0 though to smoothen the idle.

[Lonewolf]

how long after the yellow expires do you have to get stuff sorted then inspected?
2 weeks?

[Chase_d]

Its usually mentioned to you by the cop / DPI inspector or written on the yellow sticker itself

[shifted]

I thought you only had the two weeks with the canary on to sort stuff out and have it checked?

[Lonewolf]

think that was the time you could still drive it around on the road until the yellow expires, and then you get 2 weeks to have it inspected or you hand in the plates?

just means it can only be driven to the licensing center during this period.

[dattoman]

Leave the brakes on
get the engine bay looking stockity stock.... don't want the IM240 breathing down your back :)
And quieten the exhaust

Check your last rego papers for engine # to see if they changed it... if you've had one since then
Just a formality anyway

[Chase_d]

when the DPI knocked me back (gave another sticker) gave me 24hrs till the yellow expired...It took me a little over a month to get the car back for third inspection.

Before they make you submit the plates they send you out two letters, after first letter i called up - made excuse that was waiting on some parts for car to pass an proved i had booking made. Was enough for them, but yes - after sticker has expired your only allowed to drive it to the licensing centre (anywhere else it needs to be towed)

[Lonewolf]

Leave the brakes on
get the engine bay looking stockity stock.... don't want the IM240 breathing down your back :)
And quieten the exhaust

Check your last rego papers for engine # to see if they changed it... if you've had one since then
Just a formality anyway

only thing that wont look stock is the pod filter, and extractors (coated black though). IM240 test would make me consider scrapping the car :(

i called the DPI, they have the correct engine number so no issue on that front

[2JZA70]

leave on extractors just wack on stock intake, stock quiet exhaust, brakes stop fine, no rattles, good tyres, replace and blown globes!! wash car clean engine get it looking perfect and go thru...Mate had extractors on his ford they didnt notice or care about that!

[Drift_R32]

i didnt think extractors were illegal anywasy ?

[beatle]

not illegal, but could give a prick of an examiner a chance to slap you with IM240

[chris266]

Which inspection centre are you going to?
Warwick seems to have good reports from most...

yer i went warrick to put the 34 ova they gave me hassle and the car was bassicly standard ive heard good from the ossie park but jst my opinion...........

[Lonewolf]

not illegal, but could give a prick of an examiner a chance to slap you with IM240

exactly.
Mind you, it has the o2 sensor in the same location, is still 4>2>1, and has the cat in the same spot.
Will wait and see next week i guess.

[MrSparkle]

From what ive read about your car mate you should be ok i can see two things that might get you caught out. If you have braided lines that dont have the plastic cover over them they will pick that. And an angry idle wont do you any favours.

If your extractors/exhaust system is quiet enough to pass and the pod filter is secured id take this opportunity to get them permitted. Its about 30 bux for a mod permit and with things like pods and extractors it shouldnt be a problem getting them permitted and its the simple permits that help you when the police pull you over because usually they can only spot the simple (blatantly obvious) mods.

Most of the main things they look for has been addressed by the othe guys. I always tell anyone thats trying to get a car over with a few mods that your maybe not sure of. If it looks right then it probably is right. The less interesting you can make it look the better chance you have of passing.

Hope this helps

[Lonewolf]

idle should be a bit smoother once cam gears are reset to zero, but yeah i presume they may pick on the brake lines.
if they dont mind the rest, i'll get ADR approved lines made up, if they whinge about those too i'll just to back to stock and get it cleared.

[Lonewolf]

follow up time.

after the hilarity of owain taking the car to the pits, only to have the starter motor die, it went over today.

Have an issue with the car pulling left which needs rectifying
small oil leak
steering rack boot
"roadworthy" tyres - obviously dont like federal 595RS's
tint - had 15%, oops.

other than that apparently ok overall. Not sure if they will go over the car again by another guy next time, hopefully they just look at the issues they found

[R3N]

follow up time.

after the hilarity of owain taking the car to the pits, only to have the starter motor die, it went over today.

Have an issue with the car pulling left which needs rectifying
small oil leak
steering rack boot
"roadworthy" tyres - obviously dont like federal 595RS's
tint - had 15%, oops.

other than that apparently ok overall. Not sure if they will go over the car again by another guy next time, hopefully they just look at the issues they found

usually that's the case, 2nd visit is to clear the things on the list you went in the first time for

[31-EVO]

Cbf reading back, They say anything about the brakes ?

[grogers]

bloody good for only getting a sticker now!
i got my 1st on my L plates..

[Lonewolf]

Cbf reading back, They say anything about the brakes ?

nothing about the brakes, nor the braided lines.

He didnt like the wheel alignment issue, 15 minutes to get back to the workshop, and 2nd sticker on its side now adorns my windscreen, haha.

Could have been a lot worse really.

[joshg123]

My super smooth sneepy spec tig welded chassis mod didnt get spotted !

Booya

Suprised they didnt pick solid mounts, brakes and the braided lines

[Lonewolf]

haha sneepy spec. Ahh me welded chassis.

[kingmoron]

follow up time.


Have an issue with the car pulling left which needs rectifying


do what i did. remove and align your steering wheel to the left a bit more - problem solved

[R3N]

or do what i did and pump up the left side of the tyres more and let down the right side... not sure if it actually did anything but i passed without needing an alignment :p