wots better r32 or r33

[rowlzey]

I have a few mates that recon r33 are shit bc of there body weight. Wot would be better to get, r32 for 13,000 manual or 13,000 for a r33 auto???????

[[RX2]]

I have a few mates that recon r33 are shit bc of there body weight. Wot would be better to get, r32 for 13,000 manual or 13,000 for a r33 auto???????
go the r32!!!

[ReVN211]

r33s have the better motor and gearbox
but r32s have the looks :droul:

[Rossco]

I know there b plenty who disagree, but R32 all tha way bro, not az many out there, lighter and more attitude

[[RX2]]

r33s have the better motor and gearbox
but r32s have the looks :droul:
go the r32 then get a rb25det f/cut & smash it in there!
32 32 32 32 32 32 32 32 32 32 32 32 32 32 32 32 32 32

ive even got one for sale !

[R33 Gurl]

go the r32... a) u dont want an automatic .. and b) you dont want an automatic.. where is the fun in that?

i like both, though, just depends on how much u wanna spend!

[her32]

....i believe my username says it all...
R32

[Milhouse]

lol r33_gurl, whats wrong with an auto when your lazy like myself :)

get a silver 4dr 32 shitter like everyone else :)

[rowlzey]

say if i can push someone to go 13,000 for a manual r33.Would that be a better chose?? bc the rb25 sounds good ay.wots faster stock anywayz.r32 or r33??

[Scradly]

Go the r32.
Stock there bout the same. r33 has more power but its hevier.

[dirty 33]

33's are filthy

[dirty 33]

dirty dirty dirty 33's.

[Iandawsonwa]

r32 are alot funner to drive

[Milhouse]

funner isnt a word

nothing on this website, compares to the intense filth that lives inside the bay of tj's 32 shitbox :)

[confuzion]

32 :)
my question though, have you driven both?

[rowlzey]

r32 sounds alright, but im just worried about the fucin car stuffin up and shit. are 33's more reliable?

[SimonR32]

IF YOU ASK THIS QUESTION GET A R33

cause if u cant see that a 32 is soo much better i want u to drive a 33 cause every dumb pingpingpingping has one of them eg. b005t :)

[swan]

http://homepages.tig.com.au/~robs/kevspage13.htm

[rowlzey]

thanks for the webby its helped alot. I like the r32 and probally will go with that now, might just get a rb25 put into it.How miuch does that cost???
I heard the engines cost a bit???

[1JZNOSHIT]

as that webpage qted ".....Were it not for a minor lack of suspension refinement, it would have easily come second in this comparison...." All the 33 would need is a set or coilovers and you have a better car.

So if your taking that website as gospel, buy a R33 with coilovers :-)

I paid $14K for a manual 33 sedan with fuck all Kms and immaculate interior and engine bay, depends what you want I guess. R32s are excellent value for money, as I thought my R33 was @ $14K.

is the R33 just unpopular cause there are so many around and coz its a little heavier?
Im sure the interior features, engine potential and styling is just as good as a R32 if not better. Later model car, usually much less Kms, imported under SEVS so stock standard, not flogged like most 89 shtrs, i prefer the R33 if you can find one at a good price.

thats my $2.53

[rowlzey]

yer i could probally find one a r33 for around 13-14 manual, its just so hard, bc there are so many r33s around, plus i like the look of r32, but the r33 are newer, which does mean better interior. Its just so hard, well if i can find a low km r33 manual for around 13,500 i will go it before a r32 12,000, but yer i cant really seem to find a good neat one, and when i do there arseholes about dropping prices, and for some reason there pretty expenise to get them imported as well. Who is the best to import from????

[Philthy]

why wud u get a 32 and put a rb25 get in it? worlds largest case of poor mans 33. im saving for a 33 now as im in love with em, however as most of uz dont know me, can u enligthen me as to why they r better apart from weight? i prefer the look of the 33 over the 32 too so cant argu with me there. r33s have more power, heavier... so?

[Philthy]

also wats the highest boost i can run out of stock turbo on a rb25det? wat are my chances of getting a manual r33 gtst end of nxt yr for <$15k? and likewise wats my chance of getting a 33 gts-t end of nxt yr for <$15k, wat price am i lookin at if i cant get it for under 15? this is the good thing bout these sites, u get ppl who know their shit and can tell u if ur getting ripped off or not. im phil guys, good to meet ya

[Shaolin242]

why wud u get a 32 and put a rb25 get in it? worlds largest case of poor mans 33. im saving for a 33 now as im in love with em, however as most of uz dont know me, can u enligthen me as to why they r better apart from weight? i prefer the look of the 33 over the 32 too so cant argu with me there. r33s have more power, heavier... so?

dont think so man. 33s are fine if you like them...but an RB25NEO in a 32 is so fukn cool..more powerful engine..lighter car..therefore faster...better looking car too..

if you like the look of 33 better than defn go the 33 thats your perogative...

[TJ]

32 is a better all round car

they stop better and turn better due to less weight - ive driven numerous versions of both cars and 33's stop like shit compared to 32, the added weight also makes them handle alot worse. ask owain how hard i was able to throw his stock 32 down mundaring weir road, very hard with great ease.

they look hot - looks are an opinion and not fact, but i prefer 32

rb20 is so cheap to buy and modify
the boxes are weak, but is fixed via the fitment of a rb25 box, as ive decided to do before putting the car on the road

32's have less room so thats a downer

philthy, two of the most fun cars i have been in are r32's with rb25's. they are a rich mans 33 because they cost so much to do. i can pretty much tell your 12 without a clue.

[Brockas]

also wats the highest boost i can run out of stock turbo on a rb25get?

rb25get?
give it 2bar of POWA....

[Philthy]

ok fair enough they r lighter, i'm just real keen on r33s. only thing thats 12 on me is between my legs too. i dont have the money to do engine transplants, and as i just want a car thats pretty quick and looks nice, still want an r33. dont get my wrong ive got nothing against 32s, and admitadly compare to the ppl on this site i know nothing about cars, i just like 33s.

[TJ]

and thats fair enough, but why use that as a basis to say that 33's are better?

to say i like 33's more is cool, but to say that a 32 with a 25 in it is a shit 33 is a joke.

either way youll have a better car then anything made locally with the same price tag. simple.

[Philthy]

to say i like 33's more is cool, but to say that a 32 with a 25 in it is a shit 33 is a joke.


it was a joke, i get wood wen i see r32s aswell, just i get more with 33s

[sLOW navara]

i would go the 32 over the 33 but by reading the messages that you have placed on here i think you are oping for the 33 but at the end of the day you are the one driving it not every one on this forum so do what you want and have fun with it

[4SFED33]

User name says it all 33s got a better box and motor also that .5lt is always gonna be better i spose?? :coocoo: but i do agree 32s still got real nice lines a 33 can be done just as nice though so yeah i would go a 33 but never a auto!

[RICEY]

only thing thats 12 on me is between my legs too.

So youre saying you have the cock of a 12yo? :lol:

[RICEY]

I want 32 with 25, nice.

[B0BB0]

hit rossco up for his car ricey :boink:

[RICEY]

When he asks the right price hahaha

[Fryman]

as long as you get some tuning ;)

did somebody saY ringland?

[Philthy]

So youre saying you have the cock of a 12yo? :lol:
hahaha ouch, good call

[MrSparkle]

33 all the way if they suck so much how come everyone wants 33 boxes and engines and brakes i used to hate 33's with a passion but they really grow on you all they need is a bit of a kick up the ass power wise to make up for the extra weight and its really not that difficult to get them honking along but dont get auto thats not cool

[1JZNOSHIT]

dont get auto? depends on the application, street or drag? Auto with a big stall and shift kit is sick, just ask Subzero about their 10sec R33 GTS-t AUTO street car, which i think is a dedicated drag car now, but was doing 10s with an cool auto setup. had a feature of it on a Serious Performance DVD, that car was off the hook!

[Milhouse]

nothing wrong with an auto after a long day at work and you cant really be fucked changing gears :D

and as tj found, you can smash it thru the gears just as hard, it'll happily hold to the limiter in every gear :)

[1JZNOSHIT]

nothing wrong with an auto after a long day at work and you cant really be fucked changing gears :D

Owain, thats either plain lazyness, or very clever!

1 thing your are missing though, RB25! haha

[Jazza]

Id go a r32..
They handle and stop better than 33s, and looks well ive always been a fan of r32s!
Saying that r33s have awsome engines, as everyone says an rb25 in an r32 would be awsome :)
However r33s can handle fine and bar a SHITHOUSE ECU they can become very powerful cars, which look hot too, mind you theres more of them around.
You wouldnt really be disappointed with either..

[DLuded]

people always think there is a huge weight difference between the 2 but there isnt, the r33 just looks so much bigger

if you get a r32 just put the r33 front brakes on, because they have slightly bigger rotors. its a very cheap upgrade and you get the same size brakes as standard GTRs

the rb25 is a very good engine but if you dont know someone who can put the engine in for cheap then dont do it, its very expensive and the $5000 it will cost you could easily fit a full exhaust, cooler, nice turbo and re-the ECU and smash the hell out of a r32 with a rb25det

i personally dont like r33s because everyone has them. also when i drove one (stock though) it felt extrememly slow and had no power

go the r32

[Joe]

R32 is This much better than R33

O--------------------------------------------O

[180 sx]

i rather a r32 any day, but having a 180sx i like the idea of lesser weight then the skylines and are alot easier to mod to get good 1/4 mile times. Fuck putting a 25 into a r32, y not sell and get r32 gtr, better in long term.

[Drkside]

32's are Best, I may be a bias because I have one, but thats why a got a 32 over a 33 because its better. I can see the benefit of RB25 in R32s but why when you could buy an RB26

[1JZNOSHIT]

I can see the benefit of RB25 in R32s but why when you could buy an RB26

Because there is a massive difference in price between a RB25 and a RB26....

[Philthy]

gotta say the 32s are growing on me. but i couldnt afford a 32 and replace it with a rb25det although id do it if i cud, but im interested for a little more surely u could get a pretty good 32 gtr and id be all over that if i had the mulla.

[TJ]

i gotta say you got fuckall clue

what the hell is a rb25get?

[Starion_turbo]

Lots of shit talked on this thread. I have OWNED both cars so I know what they are like.

Pros and cons.

Id say I prefered the Look of my R32 than my R33, it was more of a sleeker looking car. However it lacked sophistication that the R33 has. It lacked smoothness the R33 had. It lacked the space and comfort the R33 has.
The R32s interior feels more like a sports car, you sit low in it and its like driving a sports car, my R33s interior, is more like a luxury car than a sports car.

As far as engines go, I had a RB25DET which I absolutely loved in my R32. RB20s are a good engine provided you look after them, but for someone that wants to be different, the RB25 conversion was certainly worthwhile.

Nearly every week I get a PM on here or Skylines australia asking me about the RB25 conversion. I have got 2 guys in the Melbounre to do the conversion after they went for a ride in my car. They are both enjoying there new RB25 powered 32s and there making nearly 220 at the rears with basic exhaust/cooler/induction mods. These cars continue to scare me when I go for a ride in them, I CANNOT tell people how a RB25 feels like in a 32, the rush of low down torque pretty much is like a big boot being kicked into the cars ass. As far as people saying - ohh put a big turbo blah blah on a 20 - another guy I know over here has a TD06 on his RB20 with gate powerfc, etc and only has 207 rwkw.

The R32 wasnt as stable at really high speeds compared to the R33. As far as braking goes, my R33 stops just as hard if not harder than my 32 and with the Coilovers, aftermarket sway bars, pillw ball rods, rear toe control etc It handles better than my R32 did with its Coilovers. The extra weight is felt off the line and on the run in my opinion, however saying that, my R32 had a automatic diff in it and used to get off the line blooody hard!

The look of the R32 is classic as I said, no matter how many of them there are, you can never get sick of it. I personally dislike the look of Seires 1 R33s thats why I bought a series 2 with the diff bonnet,headlights and kit.

Why did I buy it? My cars a 1997 car. It feels, looks,smells and drives new. Its like driving a brand new Nissan. My car came with a service history and logbooks. The body was untouched and in brilliant condition. Im sorry to say, but its hard to find a R32 like this. I am a Skyline Enthusiast, Ive had now a R31, R32 and R33 and Next I hope to buy a 34. True skyline enthusiasts dont care whats common or what is better than the other, they just like getting out there and enjoying there cars.

[Sketch]

The gritty FJ20 lights up in the middle of a corner with all the subtlety of a New Year’s Eve firecracker, and the chassis has no hesitation in immediately throwing the tail sideways. An occurrence that will scare the living daylights out of everyone in the car, no doubt.



oh,, no,,, how terrible!

[Drkside]

I'm very much inclined to agree with starion_turbo's statement

[Philthy]

']i gotta say you got fuckall clue

what the hell is a rb25get?
called a typo princess sorry rb25det

[TJ]

no its not

youve done it at least twice

at least know what engine your trying to talk shit about.

dry your tears

[SYK STI]

i think my 33 will out handle and out brake your 32 tj 33s rock ill chop your 32s

[NAVO]

come now guys, can't we all just get along. :lol: besides, i dig 32s and 33s equally, i think there both extremely good quality sets of wheels. Just go with which ever one you really want. i reckon both are very good head turners. :lol:

[Twista]

Hey skylines are great no matter what series its all opinion when it comes to who likes what better. Having both driven an r32 and r33 i like them both.

but r32's "feel" quicker coz they r lighter but 33's are plush with a great interior styling. and roomy backseat! he he he.

back on topic though If you can find a manual r33 than go with that but if not go with manual r32 as it is much more fun plus they hold resale value.

The number of r32's on the road are on the up and up - so exclusivity wont be the case by next year as so many dealers have pre purchased these 15 yr plus imports and are waitin to get them here.

Would love to get a DR30 to drive around tho'. MY 2 cents

[NAVO]

yeah, twista's right, skylines in general are awsome cars, starting from the 32 series. can't go wrong with either.

[D1_Sil80]

I like R33s as much, just not S1.. If its R32 v R33 S2 thn R33 is probably the go. S1 are **** imho.

I dislike them because they look crappy and when I think about 33s being whales the S1 comes to mind. White S2 with black rims. Gogogogo!

[4R33L]

r33 make power! simple as that! a r33 auto would probly hose a manual r32!
if u got plans to do turbo conversion then defenetly the 33!
the 32 gear boxes are crap and they are getting old too so everything will start falling apart!
Im sure people will bag this thread but i have a 33 and my mates have 32s so i know the difference!

Go THE 33!!!!

[R32-GTR]

33 is a piece of ****. I had one recently for 3months and i hated it. **** handling, **** braking , feels heavy , slow. Definetely slower than my old 32 was with same mods. Go the 32 again and again.

[Jazza]

:werd:

[Starion_turbo]

What are you basing your argument on Simon? 33 and 32s both have there pros and cons - have you attented any Track days and competed or watched R33 and R32s perform? How they perform in a straight line is only one small aspect. Im very involved in SAU track days over here in Victoria and most of the R33 that go on the track pull the best times and are reliable and consistent, so how can you say they handle like ****? They might weigh more, but at higher speeds they would be more stable.

Saying the 33 is **** compared to a 32 is just a stupid comment. Why would Nissan build a car that is less developed,built poorer and slower than its predecessor.If so The Skyline series must be a failure. You cant base your thoughts on driving a 12 year old 1993 R33 skyline which would be worn out to say compared a late 98 R33 skyline. I too have been in many slightly modded and standard R32s and they drive horribly.

[R32-GTR]

Here we go. That was the biggest crock of **** spilt ive ever heard as per usual.

[4GTEIT]

So... if you had a choice of the R32 R33 & 34 wat would you choose? Just interested as not many people have a the 34's

[Starion_turbo]

Here we go. That was the biggest crock of **** spilt ive ever heard as per usual.


Its a justifyable comment, not a personal attack so I dont know how you can call its the "biggest crock".

[Jazza]

You said Nissan wouldnt make a car thats a later model slower? Check the R32 GTR vs R33 GTR and you'll find the 32 quicker even though the 33 was newer more powerful (they only stated more torque) and more refined :)

We shud agree that the whole Skylines series is awsome, 32s are better in most apsects but the 33 has a better engine which is obviously a huge part! 34s are the best of course but thats not the comparison ;)

[Starion_turbo]

All you guys seem to care about is how fast the car is in a straight line.
Jazza, just because its a couple of points of a second slower than a R32 GTR doesnt mean Nissan failed in its job to build a better sucessor.

I know the R33 GTR wud beat a R32 GTR around a track. Its advanced ATTESSA-ETS computer provides greater stability and allows for faster entry/exit and cornering speeds with the Vspec models having an even more advanced Attessa system and a Active LSD.

Im sure the Brembo stoppers on a 33 GTR can pull up and fade less than the old R32 GTR calipers.

[TJ]

ive driven both 32 and 33 in anger

33 doesnt like living on the edge, it buckles under the pressure before a 32 does

[Starion_turbo]

Ive seen plenty of R33s driven on the "edge" and they are quite alright. Maybe a R33 with King springs lowered suspension wont handle the best. Drive one with a set of good Coilovers, aftermarket swaybars,pillow ball rods, tension rods, strut braces etc and see how much you can push it.

It feels more "Progressive" than the nervous nature of the 32 GTST.

[Jazza]

I dont think its only down to straight line speed. All aspect are very close but do coil overs to both cars and the 32 will handle easier, its only because the 32 weighs less so the cars parts dont ave to work ashard to push, pull, move etc the car around.

We should just agree the 33 is also a ****ter... hahahha
Nar in all seriousness we are all allowed our own opinions! Niether car is 'better', they both have their own aspects which they are better in weather it be straight line, corners or looks.

Btw anyone got the link to that Skylines review page??? That was a good read.. but i dont know where to find it again

[Starion_turbo]

Coming from a guy who has owned a Exa, sure the R32 is a huge step up in Handling. I have owned both cars and a few others with expensive suspension setups and ur trying to tell me which one is better.

What ur saying is that every car that is heavier than a R32 handles like ****. What about Porsches, Ferraris, Evos, Stis and the rest. They weigh a good 300-400 kgs more than a R32 and I tell you know they walk over a R32 in handling.

The worlds a bigger place, theres better cars you know. By saying a R32 is better in this and that is just displaying ur ignorance. The R33 is a ****ter ey? My 1997 Model R33 certainly isnt a ****ter.

[R32-GTR]

Starion if your trying to tell me a r33 gtr is faster round a track than a 32 gtr i think your a crack smoker. I have driven lots of 33 gtr's and 32 gtr's. Where is your experience coming from ?

[R32-GTR]

Like i said i just had a r33 gts-t for three months and it doesnt handle nor stop like a 32. End of story. It is a boat thats it. The 33 is a toned down skyline in all aspects.

[SimonR32]

maybe ur r32 didnt handle so well cause u had a r33 engine in it

[1JZNOSHIT]

Cerbera dreams of RB25DET conversions.....

[SimonR32]

yeah cause then the ****er would break its ringlands quicker and id be forced to either buy a gtr or slap a rb26 in my car...

[Starion_turbo]

What experience? I actually have driven my close freinds 1994 R32 GTR V SPEC II and been in it around Phillip Island and Sandown. He has Tien adjustables, all upgraded rods, braces etc. and I have also driven my Uncles R33 GTR S3 around Phillip Island, which has standard suspension, however tracks more smoothly, doesnt oversteer, brakes harder, comes onto power smoother and gets BETTER lap times. youve probably driven a 100 more GTRs than I have, but how they drive on the street in a straight line or how hard they pull is regardless. If you wanted to compare straight line, I feel embarresed to even say that I know of so many other cars that are faster than most GTRs out there. The amount of modified cars over here is crazy, theres insane versions of almost every performance car - in perth everyone pretty much knows every ones car and whats been done to it and lots of you guys have a big head attitude about it when your cars are nothing special.

I have attented every race/motorkhana meet this year for SAU VIC and watched many R32, R33 and R34 GTR race. These cars arnt the half assed modded 1989 model cars that you get in Perth, these are guys with serious money and serious cars.Many of the guys enter in events such as the dutton rally and really push the limits of there cars. Out of all the R32s, the only good one I have ever seen pull impressive times was the ex Fred gibson motorsports shelled R32 GTR which was a proper race car with a experienced driver, and it ran 1 minute 18 second laptime down sandown a couple of times, whereas the White R33 GTR from Racepace Motorsport was pulling 1 minute 17s, time and time again. In the job I do, one of my colleagues looks after Lindsay foxes Car collection and I have met and spoken to his workshop manager who drives all there cars, including the original Gibson motorsport GTRs and he said, its hes favourite car for the brutal way it drives but has room for improvement.

If the 32s are kings, where are they at Targa? Thats right, crashing most the time. They were a king of there time, but the fact is the newer skylines are more sorted out.

At the end of the day, you dont have a leg to stand on with ur argument, and cheap little digs and pokes just displays your maturity on the subject.

[SimonR32]

Name a R33 that is faster around a track than the Orange R32 from Garage Saurus?

Ouch!

[SimonR32]

Also i didnt see any R33 competing at targa this year... well at least noone coming in the places

[confuzion]

you are my idol. im going to buy an r33 gtst now. oh and can i move over east and be fully sick too?

[TJ]

YOUR ALL ****ALL MY STOCK 33 OWNS YOU ALL

I KNOW ****S WHO KNOW ****S WHO KNOW ****S WHO HAVE SERIOUS CASH AND CARS ULLEH

[dorifuto]

awwwww

[Starion_turbo]

Listen to yourselves.

Funny how all of you are trying to prove a point drive 1989 vehicles. Your worse than bogans with V8s, you think your 1989 R32s are the best ****ing cars in the world. Small uneducated minds are impressed easily.

There are guys here reading this and know how thick you guys are but are too afraid to say anything because there scared of becoming unpopular.

Say whatever you want,its only the internet, this is my last post on this subject.

[dorifuto]

i got a 91 s13 sorry yeh i forgot its a pile of sh1t got phuk all on your 2005 spec 97 modle r33 thou

[TJ]

and with an attitude like that, the last on the forums I hope

how ****ing dare you come here and tell us that our cars are ****? we are here to celebrate performance , not to bag people because they dont have cash like lindsay fox and your cocksucking uncle with his wonderful GTR. Id say my stock 89 ****ter would thrash your whale around a track, and with ease. the 89 rule allowed many people to embrace the joys of performance cars at a low cost, including you. This club is based around ppl, and alot of them own a 89 32, Cefiro , S13 etc. There is nothing wrong with these peoples car. Probobly better then half of your cashed up friends of friends who spend 50k on their car then pop it anyhow.

Its funny how people mention those track days, yet both the GTR's 32 and 33 get owned by John's 300zx. So the 300 is now god of the nissan scene?

[dorifuto]

no starion turbo is the god of the modified car scene he should enter car shows so we can vote him god of autosalon

[Starion_turbo]

Get ****ed if you wanna talk to me like that, I dont care about you or how "celebrated" you want to be. From day one youve been a pretender and a sucker, the sucker who follows the big bullys around at school, and tries to please them. You have some fairlytale like opinions and are lots of talk and little action. You think you know it all - but sadly you dont, I dont think youve probably ever been outside perth for that matter.

Its funny how far youve come, not long ago I heard from a mate of mine that went to school with you, who was suprised a Computer geek was trying to run a Perth car club.

That is all, my last post, to any of my freinds reading this, I hope you dont take offence to it, and good luck to all of you.

Maybe Ill look at the site in a couple of months and it will be called " Anti-1990"

[R32-GTR]

HOw did u become 100 times more of a ****head after moving to melbourne ? Melbourne is a piece of **** place to live comapred to P first thought haha. Please stay off the forums from now on.

[Boza]

How did u become 100 times more of a ****head after moving to melbourne ? Melbourne is a piece of **** place to live compared to Perth but because you live there now its the best haha. Please stay off the forums from now on because all you talk is utter crap.

yep, i remember 6 months or so ago when this cockhead talked up eastern staters cars etc sayin perth was ****all & that we were all dreamers etc ? he then started postin normal **** without gettin shotdown for his previous smart arse comments towards a few Perth antilag members, and his history seemed to go un-noticed, and now he is back to his old **** talkin up the eastern states car scene/cars etc...?

as for him ****ing off & not visiting the forum, na let him keep postin and tellin us his obsession for eastern staters/cars, how Perth & there cars are ****, how much he knows about cars & what he gets driven to work in each day, what his mates own, how much they spend on there cars etc as he only makes himself sound more like a cock...

[R32-GTR]

Nicely said Beau

[TJ]

Get ****ed if you wanna talk to me like that, I dont care about you or how "celebrated" you want to be. From day one youve been a pretender and a sucker, the sucker who follows the big bullys around at school, and tries to please them. You have some fairlytale like opinions and are lots of talk and little action. You think you know it all - but sadly you dont, I dont think youve probably ever been outside perth for that matter.

Its funny how far youve come, not long ago I heard from a mate of mine that went to school with you, who was suprised a Computer geek was trying to run a Perth car club.

That is all, my last post, to any of my freinds reading this, I hope you dont take offence to it, and good luck to all of you.

Maybe Ill look at the site in a couple of months and it will be called " Anti-1990"

1 - lol the only two people I have to please around here are Morgs and Mayhem, and they sure as **** aint bully me to do ****.

a) im not sure what i pretend to do around here? im pretty sure i write alot of articles, take alot of pics, run alot of cruises, promote antilag , go to shows all with the help of a fantastic team of people all of whom im lucky to have as friends. maybe i got a secret feature fairy that helps out? she drives a 33 im sure of it, because they are gods choice in pimp rides.

2 - Ive come far because I work my ****ing ass off in everything that I do, even to the point where i rub ppl the wrong way, and ppl know this. its funny because its all about to pay off for me personally, but i wont be giving it away just yet...

3 - I didnt own a pc until 2002 so I dont know where the computer nerd **** came from you moron. I dont even know how to put my photos online, but im sure thats come from many years of net nerdiness. I did a scholarship at high school, spent 3 years running a muck in class? who is this guy that i went to school with? name names, or is this another of your mate of a mate of a mate with a 33? I havnt even been to school for 5 years now, who the **** even cares about school , even i dont remember myself in those days.

4 - Take your ugly tri spoke equipped stock peice of **** R33 and **** off. Go take it to bathurst and set a track record, as is, no mods, becuase r33's own all dont they?

I used to stick up for you, but with attitudes like that go eat a dick.