EOI Targa South West

[macksrallye]

Recieved the following yesterday via email from Bob Schrader & thought some people on here might be interested.


We are delighted to announce a brand new Tarmac Event, primarily aimed at local West Australian competitors. Targa South West (subject to the usual approvals) will be a warm-up event for the premier WA Tarmac Rally, QUIT Targa West. The event will be staged in the Pemberton / Manjimup region over the weekend of 29-30 May 2010.

Targa South West is not a results based event, it is a fun weekend away with an opportunity to practice under real tarmac rally conditions and test various vehicle configurations. It also offers a great seat time opportunity for both driver and co-driver with approximately 80km of competitive stages including the jewel-in-the-crown 4 km town stage, up and down, in and out the streets of Pemberton which will be run twice.

The field will be limited to approximately 50 vehicles, and whilst all vehicles will require a CAMS approved roll cage to be fitted along with the other safety requirements, they will not be restricted to the CAMS Tarmac Rally Technical Regulations.

Please email bob@targawest.com.au for an “Expression of Interest” form that will allow you to reserve your place pending the release of the Official Entry forms and associated Supplementary Regulations.

Once the Official Entry forms are available for release, your reservation can then be confirmed and secured by return of the Entry Form along with a $550 deposit at that time.

Sponsorship Opportunities - A number of sponsorship opportunities exist for the new event, including the naming rights. If you are interested, or know of someone who could be interested, please call or email me on 0411 881 909 / bob@targawest.com.au

Should you have any questions about any aspects of the rally please do not hesitate to ask us, otherwise we look forward to receiving your completed Expressions of Interest form and confirming the reservation of a place for you in this exciting new event in due course.


Kind regards
Bob Schrader

Contact details are in there for interested parties.

[DISTRBD]

Entry $1980 inc GST

[bjohnson]

Pretty sure I'll be co-driving for this one.

Big push for targa style events atm.
Targa time attack @ RAC, K-Tec Sprint @ Motorplex, Now this...

Here's hoping they all do really well!

[Brockas]

Entry is only $1980???


BOMBED. Keen.

[DISTRBD]

Entry is only $1980???


BOMBED. Keen.

Yes , on the " expression of interest to compete " form i have on my desk


Also needs CAMS approved cage n comply with CAMS tarmac rally regulations

[LostInTheWoods]

They don't need to comply with tarmac regs, just need an approved cage, bolt in will do.

"...whilst all vehicles will require a CAMS approved roll cage to be fitted along with the other safety requirements, they will not be restricted to the CAMS Tarmac Rally Technical Regulations."

[DISTRBD]

They don't need to comply with tarmac regs, just need an approved cage, bolt in will do.

"...whilst all vehicles will require a CAMS approved roll cage to be fitted along with the other safety requirements, they will not be restricted to the CAMS Tarmac Rally Technical Regulations."

Where did ou read that they wont need to comply ?? form i send of had this on it


Note : All vechiles will require a CAMS approved roll cage to be fitted along with the normal safety requirements . Preference will be given to cars that comply to the CAMS tarmac technical regulations . NON complying cars may be able to enter Targa South West subject to CAMS approval

[LostInTheWoods]

Yeah, you're right, the EOI form does say that, however the email written by bob says what I posted above (see also first post) thats where the comment came from.

So Tarmac regulation cars will be given preference, but it is not a requirement that they meet the tarmac regs. If 50 tarmac reg cars show up then you're screwed, but who knows what's adheres to the regs and what doesn't. They hardly know for targa west, let alone a non-competitive event. So long as your not hanging a dirty T51R.

[DISTRBD]

. So long as your not hanging a dirty T51R.

LOL only a T78 :)

[Brockas]

and T04Z :(


Fak.

[LostInTheWoods]

Pfft, thats standard Ztune spec. Never heard of the R31 Z-tune 400R special, only 10 made. . . . . honest. Who's to know, or care.

Seriously though, talk to the organisers, they are really easy to get along with, and will help you. Its in their interest to. Plus they want to fill, or even oversubscribe the event. Being non competive this may take out some of the more experienced guys (with tarmac prepped cars), and leave space for people getting into the sport. Then again it may be extremely popular.

Looks like a great weekend for $2k, and the Nav can time the stages for bragging rights at the end.

[Brockas]

So it's not timed at all?

[LostInTheWoods]

I assumed that it wasn't, otherwise it would be competitive.

They can save heaps of money on insurance if it is not timed, and it may be easier to gain access to the roads. I know that the organisers want to use more roads across perth for Targa West, perhaps this is a way of easing councils and residents of other areas into the rallying theme?

I will find out for sure.

[DISTRBD]

Being non competitive i would of thought aslong as its caged n safe then it can run .. not like its cheating :lol:

[LostInTheWoods]

Exactly, no protests!

Blazing tyres in top gear on wet windy roads - suicidal perhaps :-)

[DISTRBD]

No chance in hell of us running the 31s or the GTR :( :( :(

[Brockas]

No chance in hell of us running the 31s or the GTR :( :( :(

Why?

Regulations?


I really want to do this, would be shit if the car was 'too modified' to run...

[ovaxitd]

a certain "unmodified" r35gtr that went bush is well stock... buy it brokeback...

[DISTRBD]

Why?

Regulations?


I really want to do this, would be shit if the car was 'too modified' to run...

Yep . Will rang n spoke to Bob and our cars no good . basically he said the not conforming to CAMS rules is for pissant stuff like exhausts , intakes .

[LostInTheWoods]

Yeah, this is what I got from Bob too.

"Our thinking is that cars that are slightly off the mark may run to see if they enjoy these type of events before they make modifications to their car for Quit Targa West. There will be a few exceptions and each one will be taken case by case. It is fair to say that heavily modified cars probably will not make it on to the final list."

As for numbers, depending on interest, permissions, officials etc, they may take more thatn the 50 cars first specified.

Also this will be timed . . . sweet.

"Yes the stages will be timed, but no prizes or overall results, just a fun filled practice event."

Just drop some lowmounts on it brockas. They ran a 34 GTR Z-tune and a 33 400R in tasmania, built motors, low mounts, etc etc.

[DISTRBD]

Just drop some lowmounts on it brockas. They ran a 34 GTR Z-tune and a 33 400R in tasmania, built motors, low mounts, etc etc.

We got told stock dumps , stock intake , stock cooler n piping would be needed if we run GTR . Will is thinking of selling 32 n going to the dark side :eek3:

[LostInTheWoods]

Targa Tas uses AASA regs, similar to Cams, but they seem to care less.

You should see what Longhurst ran in classic adelaide (CAMS event) PMS25. Yeah stock.

http://www.pms.net.au/13_subaru_pms25.htm

Opens up a whole lot of loopholes. A car like that is unlikely to be allowed to run in other targa events, but classic adelaide didn't seem to care to much for the modern cars.

For targa west you would need to run stock dumps, front pipes intake, cooler. But unless you are competing for outright, you could run this stuff and no-one would care, or notice. Unless someone protested you. So many of the cams events GTR's with massive lumpy idles, and rediculous hp run and get away with it, jsut like the many 2.3L built engine evos. Guess it depends on whether you want to cheat, or mis-interpret the rules, or interpret them differently, all rules are open for interpretation.

But if you want to be "technically correct" then stock dumps, engine, turbs, front pipes, cooler.

[Darkside]

^^^Spot on. The AASA/ Targa Tas guys seem to have a more relaxed view. Was a mate of mine who ran the Z Tune. Was basically a replica and wasnt run to full z tune spec (ie only ran a 2.6) buit it did allow him to run some of the other Z tune parts (exhaust etc.) without penalty. Basically just run the car in the club motorsport track spec he always had it in. These sorts of cases are assessed on a case by case basis by the organisers. He got in touch with them in advance, let them know his plans, they agreed and he moved forward with it. He was only a rookie and not in the hunt for outright so there wasnt a problem. Might have been different if it was say Steve or the Whites or Quinn looking to do something along the same lines, although I believe both white and quinn are already using this type of interpretation by running their cars as superleggera's and V specs respectively and using the weight advantages that spec offers without being the genuine article. (Happy to stand corrected on this)

Is a shame that CAMS arent little more flexible as I reckon minor "club sport" mods like 3" exhausts on evos and stis arent really likely to give these cars any major advantage over the field as they have well and truly met their match with the GTR's and other super cars and might open the event up to a slightly wider audience.

TSW sounds good to me. I have expressed my interest. :)