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sky_high_psi
10-11-2009, 06:36 PM
Hey guys,

So i got a yellow sticker on my s13, which is licenced with a ca18de auto.
The problem i have is its now rb25det manual...

1.I was wondering if anyone knows how i should go about this, should i just take it over the pits as is and they will sort it out?

2.Does anyone know if i will have to get engineering certificates? and how much they cost?

The car has r33 skyline brakes all round and an r33 diff, so not like it cant brake well with the new power or anything.

Thanks

Trent.

Skitzo
10-11-2009, 06:51 PM
will need engineering.

Sebdullah
10-11-2009, 07:50 PM
good luck, been goin thru the same thing for the last 12 months

sky_high_psi
10-11-2009, 09:09 PM
good luck, been goin thru the same thing for the last 12 months

farrk whys that?

Shauno
10-11-2009, 09:21 PM
You replaced a 1.8turbo with a 2.5 turbo lol

Scaf
10-11-2009, 09:28 PM
Na 1.8l auto non turbo with a 2.5l Manuel Turbo, pretty much the exact opposite to what its licenced as.

Drift pig..DOOO ITTT!

reNEGade
10-11-2009, 09:29 PM
farrk whys that?
Thats cos he is trying to get a pintara, that has been changed into a skyline, to be registered which the DPI won't allow as its against the laws of physics.
Nah, if you have RB25 and brakes to match. Its all been done safely. Then just go get it engineered and it will be sweet. They just sign off if the brakes match the engine and the modification is safe. Then go to the pits, pass that if the car is clean mechanically and boom. No yellow sticker

morgazmatron
10-11-2009, 09:30 PM
orrrr put CA back in take over pits then put RB back in..

problem solvered

2LV8ETR
11-11-2009, 08:34 AM
^^ This one saves a lot of money. A couple of mates, some cones/brews and a social time for all involved.

sky_high_psi
11-11-2009, 08:34 AM
Thats cos he is trying to get a pintara, that has been changed into a skyline, to be registered which the DPI won't allow as its against the laws of physics.
Nah, if you have RB25 and brakes to match. Its all been done safely. Then just go get it engineered and it will be sweet. They just sign off if the brakes match the engine and the modification is safe. Then go to the pits, pass that if the car is clean mechanically and boom. No yellow sticker

Ok thanks, that doesnt sound too bad...

Anyone know how much engineering will cost and where to get it done?

Basic
11-11-2009, 08:40 AM
Call the DPI they will send you a list of engineers, apparently the guy in Sorrento is the best.

Alt_F4
11-11-2009, 08:50 AM
Thats cos he is trying to get a pintara, that has been changed into a skyline, to be registered which the DPI won't allow as its against the laws of physics.
A pinny is the same chassis as the skyline numbnuts.

lysdexia
11-11-2009, 09:35 AM
The cost of engineering the car depends on what's done to the car, how many tests it needs, and how many hours it takes the engineer to do the report up. you won't know what it's going to cost you until you take the car in basically.

the process is as follows:

take your car to be inspected. you could get lucky and they'll rego it without engineering it (incredibly unlikely though). what is most likely is that you'll be given the form 'application to perform modification' which is a bigass form to fill out of all the mods you have performed, or want to perform on the car. you then submit this to the dpi tech dept, and they go through it and say yes or no. 9 times out of 10 the answer is 'yes, but the car will need to be signed off by an engineering signatory'

from there you take the car to an engineer of your choosing, they go over the car ensuring the WHOLE CAR meets the relevent ADRs. they can't just sign off on the engine and brakes, they have to do the car as a whole. so it has to be pretty well spot on. you'll probably need a brake test, and worse case scenario, an emissions test.

once the car is signed off, you then present the car and the paperwork to the dpi, it will be inspected again, and with any luck, your yellow is now gone, and your car is rego'd and legal.

hope this helps.

sky_high_psi
11-11-2009, 09:40 AM
Cheers mate

gazza750
11-11-2009, 10:13 AM
Call the DPI they will send you a list of engineers, apparently the guy in Sorrento is the best.
he is a good engineer passed off my lincoln mercury in less than 30 mins cost about $300 but that was a stocker

HIKARI
11-11-2009, 10:49 AM
Had Terry Southam Enginnered my car $450, great bloke to talk to.

Turbo conversion, emmision components retained and no major/ to none interior/chassis work.

[Jacek]
11-11-2009, 11:23 AM
The cost of engineering the car depends on what's your yellow is now gone, and your car is rego'd and legal.


And the next time you drive down the street past a cop, you'll get pulled over and yellowed again, regardless of what paperwork you show the pingpingpingping

Skitzo
11-11-2009, 11:32 AM
true. but you will still be able to pass pits no dramas.

reNEGade
11-11-2009, 11:56 AM
A pinny is the same chassis as the skyline numbnuts.

Dude I know, I'm mates with Seb and his know much of his Legendary fight against the dreaded yellow stickers.

Strong Post Lysdexia.

If the rest of your car is in good condition and engine match brakes. Could cost like 500$. Which isn't too bad. But if the conversion was dodgey....

lysdexia
11-11-2009, 01:09 PM
true. but you will still be able to pass pits no dramas.

not only that, but it keeps your insurance valid, which is something that often gets overlooked..

cactus
11-11-2009, 03:25 PM
Sal Rossi... ring me and I'll give you his details. He lives in Kala too.

sky_high_psi
11-11-2009, 05:23 PM
Sal Rossi... ring me and I'll give you his details. He lives in Kala too.

sweet cheers matt when the car is ready ill give you a buzz...

c.rusli
13-11-2009, 11:11 AM
Ok thanks, that doesnt sound too bad...

Anyone know how much engineering will cost and where to get it done?

friend of mine just doen his report $900 bucks totaled up.

but remember you need upgraded brakes for this to pass. since you are going from 1.8 to 2.5

you will be lucky if they pass you straight away in pits.

try o'connor? since you need to get an extended permit for the yellow aniway..

lysdexia
13-11-2009, 11:16 AM
you do not NEED a brake upgrade. all the car has to do is stop in the required distance from X speed., which it did in factory form, so there's no reason for it not to do it now.

obviously youre retarded not to upgrade the brakes. but you do not have to.

sky_high_psi
13-11-2009, 11:38 AM
The car has r33 brakes allround so the brake test wont be a problem in this case.

Joe
13-11-2009, 12:18 PM
friend of mine just doen his report $900 bucks totaled up.

but remember you need upgraded brakes for this to pass. since you are going from 1.8 to 2.5

you will be lucky if they pass you straight away in pits.

try o'connor? since you need to get an extended permit for the yellow aniway..

Sounds to me like you've not even read the thread, as its clearly stated that he has brake upgrades done. You've done this in 2 others today also.. way to get your post count up.

mitchy
13-11-2009, 12:22 PM
you do not NEED a brake upgrade. all the car has to do is stop in the required distance from X speed., which it did in factory form, so there's no reason for it not to do it now.

obviously youre retarded not to upgrade the brakes. but you do not have to.

i think you do actually..

from the reading up i've been doing about my 25 in the 31.. you're supposed to have the brakes, etc.. that were standard fitment on the car the engine came from..
don't quote me on that though :lol:

cactus
13-11-2009, 12:36 PM
With my engineering, I was told you do need a brake upgrade with the higher horsepower motor. Cant remember specifics.

lysdexia
13-11-2009, 01:42 PM
yuh, engineer was happy to sign off on standard brakes on my old 31, even without a brake test, cause they were factory and untouched. change anything, and a test is required.

MRO
13-11-2009, 03:21 PM
Licensed my 1973 Ford Escort with SR20DET with standard brakes (RS2000 type). As mentioned above, if i changed the brakes a brakes test report was required.

space
14-11-2009, 07:06 AM
slightly off topic guys but can anyone tell me if you increase the displacement of your engine (stroker kit), is this something the pits will give you grief over. if in fact they could or have the means to find it?

DTM-031
14-11-2009, 10:07 AM
how they gonna know?

can't give you shit about something they don't know about lol

PABS
18-11-2009, 01:09 PM
My mate is having issues with his S13. He has done DET conversion on the DE SR.
Because the car was released with the SR20DET then he is able to do the conversion no probs and the SRDE brakes are fine.
From what i understand, any engine mods that were'nt a factory option need engineering...
Can be quite pricey too, like thousands

cactus
18-11-2009, 02:05 PM
I cant see how engineering would cost so much...

I run a Nissan RB25 and 4 speed auto with VN diff, VN seats, VL dash and upgraded standard brakes, all of which was engineered without much grief and well under the $1000 mark.

As long as the work is quality and the necessary mods have been done, it should pass engineering fairly easily. Maybe I was lucky having a large car usually licensed with a big V8... but hey.

MrSparkle
23-11-2009, 08:39 AM
Just to add more fuel to the fire we passed my old silvia that was fitted with an rb20det and it started life as a sr20de without engineering and without a brake upgrade. (and it had 3 different coloured panels on it) Our inspector was happy because everything bolted up and the sr20det has 214hp and so did the rb20det ( according to wherever he was looking anyway) I use three rules when trying to get a car passed that probably shouldnt:

1. As neat as possible
2. As uninteresting as possible (no painted blue or red bits)
3. As stock as possible (stock looking anyway)
If stuff bolts up and its painted black they never even see it unless its spitting out oil or its got shiney bits

You can make it how you want it when u get it home!

Having said that its a fair bit of work and when and if you get done again it starts all over. I think in this case get it engineered and done right. Pay the money jump through the hoops and your better off for doing it. Plus the insurance company will cover you which is more important than ever with the price of car repairs nowdays.

sky_high_psi
23-11-2009, 08:50 AM
Thats interesting... how long ago was this?
which pits did you go to?

I think im just going to take it over the pits and if they say it needs engineering then ill get it. The car looks completly standard from the outside and the inside its just the motor has a few shiney peices and the rocker covers are painted red so it does kind of look totally out of place but oh well.

gav
23-11-2009, 10:03 AM
my 2 cents, passes my nismo tight-as 2way mech diff over pits. lol.
the inspector came back from driving my car, and i assumed he would want it out so i asked him the reply i got was 'nah mate i know what type of diff you have and its fine, i dont see any problems or legality issues with it, leave it in there.' .............. in all my time ive always had to remove mech diffs for pits as they 'dont like them' thou ive never been given a concrete reason as to why there is anything wrong with them. noisy/clunky in operation, but fail to see how its unsafe/unroadworthy..... my inspector actually said if anything mate its safer, its a true LSD......

sky_high_psi
28-11-2009, 08:40 AM
So i got a letter from the DoT saying i need to bring it in for inspection before December 6. The cars at the panel beaters and no where near ready for inspection does anyone know if i can get a extension on the licky without actually bringing the car in?

Scaf
28-11-2009, 08:53 AM
Can u not just let it get de-rego'd? Its a full inspection anyway so what difference would it make?

sky_high_psi
28-11-2009, 08:56 AM
Just paid the rego last week bit of a waste of money plus its a little more fucking around then.

Scaf
28-11-2009, 09:02 AM
You get the remaining months of your rego paid back.