Here come the point to point speed cameras [Archive]

ho57ile

02-10-2009, 02:23 PM

I don't understand how they can catch you for speeding if they don't have a picture/radar speed of the specific time you were speeding. I understand how the average speed works and it can proove you were averaging something higher then the speed limit allowed on that road but its far too vague.

Fuck these pingpingpingpings anyway, time to move somewere less retarded.

Alt_F4

02-10-2009, 02:30 PM

Fuck these pingpingpingpings anyway, time to move somewere less retarded.
Antarctica? I hear that place is cool, with penguins n shit.

manual

02-10-2009, 02:47 PM

fixed at distances of up to 30km/s apart?? fkn ell ...

BOKI

02-10-2009, 02:49 PM

Do they seriously not have anything better to do?
"Don't bother chasing criminals, let's go after the these 'maniacs' who exceed some arbitrary speed limit in conditions where it is safe to do so."

I have never witnessed a crash which was caused by speeding. They are always caused by people who don't know how to merge, give way or fricken DRIVE!!!

S133LTR

02-10-2009, 02:50 PM

point to point on major country roads ffs

so I travel for hours at the posted 110kmh limit pass a couple of trucks along the way (speed up to 120-140kmh depending on the length of the truck for a few 30 seconds at a time) and potentially get done for speeding? sweet.

[FFOUR]

02-10-2009, 02:50 PM

Very rare that I sit on the freeway for 30km straight so not too fussed TBH.

Just bring a calculator with you so you can work out how long you need to pull over in the emergency lane for to get your average back down to 100kmh. :D

Ryan1080

02-10-2009, 02:55 PM

Hmmm, are they gonna be clearly marked and fixed? If so, easy! Just go 100 like a snail for the 30 kays and back to your old self after you pass the second camera, easy! At least no surprises there!

ReaperSS

02-10-2009, 02:55 PM

http://i30.tinypic.com/2rc9x6q.jpg

DRKWRX

02-10-2009, 02:58 PM

how do the cameras know 1 car from another??

Halle Terry

02-10-2009, 02:59 PM

I fucking HATE Grant Dorrington.

[FFOUR]

02-10-2009, 02:59 PM

how do the cameras know 1 car from another??

Number plate recognition.

Butcher

02-10-2009, 03:00 PM

Fark me they forecast to make 540 mill out of that 30mill injection in the first financial year. It has always been about the money. They should be forced to put every last dollar back into road safety. Maybe then the gov wont be such money grubbing pricks.
ATM its Multinova>Govenment coffers>Feed a little back to the popo>Multinova

Whereas it should be Multinova>Road saftey>Multinova>Road saftey
Maybe then they will fix up such road hazzards like the GFF orrong bottleneck, traffic lights all along Leach, Tonkin, Read, should be abolished at all main roads. Three years of camera income could fix up just about all of the major Bad intersections/Blackspots in perth. Maybe then with traffic not having to be agro about waiting for 3 sets of lights just to cross an intersection or being angry about being cut off at a merge maybe people will stress less and stop running into each other.

Lonewolf

02-10-2009, 03:09 PM

also ones through traffic lights, forget about speeding up slightly to ensure a safe exit out of an intersection, just coast through and get t-boned!

cplagz

02-10-2009, 03:09 PM

http://www.ukspeedtraps.co.uk/customer/speedflip/stiched%2014_tmp.jpg

Crimson

02-10-2009, 03:10 PM

LOL @ Butcher - mate, in their minds, multinovas ARE road safety! They save lives remember? :D

I went a little further on the maths angle. 27 current cameras replaced by these new ones that catch bikes too @ $170,000 each = $4,590,000. Double that = $9,180,000. That's not $30 million they're spending on multinovas to get the bulk of that $540 million return - that's a scratch over $9 million. If it wasn't for the fact that they're scum of the earth, it'd be the industry to work in! I can't think of anything else where such a small "investment" (and believe me, that's what it is to these wankers) returns such a large amount over such a short time.

cplagz

02-10-2009, 03:12 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovLpMzMSj9w

even better... LCD ftw :)

DanWA

02-10-2009, 03:12 PM

Whats the fine for not displaying plates?

cplagz

02-10-2009, 03:18 PM

$150 and 2pts I believe now? It used to be just $50 a plate.

Fryman

02-10-2009, 03:33 PM

has that changed? used to be 50 or a 100 no demerits. silly to wear front plates

S133LTR

02-10-2009, 03:40 PM

I got done for no frnt plate june/july this year and it was $100/no points.

Very suprising how many poolice I passed/saw that didnt seem to care about it.

cplagz

02-10-2009, 03:41 PM

I still think a switchable cover is a better idea, and if you get done by a multi then so be it.

Ryan1080

02-10-2009, 03:45 PM

I still think a switchable cover is a better idea, and if you get done by a multi then so be it.

I hope they are fixed and marked. Would be a good idea to pull over before passing the first one, cover your plates with a bit of cloth or something. Go past. Pull over remove. And keep going. Then do the same when you approach the second camera. Might take you 30 seconds or so each time. For 30-50 km stretches of road it may be worthwhile if you want to go 10-20 kays over...

S133LTR

02-10-2009, 03:46 PM

Pretty sure alberts still sell those neltronics covers which changes the numbers (like the old kids rulers with moving pics on em) at an angle. They are under $100 each they work very well.

Lonewolf

02-10-2009, 04:03 PM

i wonder if there is any tolerance built into them, surely there must be.
you get what 1-2 km/hr tolerance on a speed camera.
at 100km/hr over 30km, equals how much?

duste

02-10-2009, 04:50 PM

i wonder if there is any tolerance built into them, surely there must be.
you get what 1-2 km/hr tolerance on a speed camera.
at 100km/hr over 30km, equals how much?

Wouldn't they have the same tolerance? If you do 102km/h for 30km, your average speed is still going to be 102km/h...

Lonewolf

02-10-2009, 05:06 PM

i suck at maths

verbatim

02-10-2009, 05:08 PM

they say in that article that all the regular speed cameras are being changed to shoot from front and behind. Screwing the removing the front plate idea. :(

MMM

02-10-2009, 05:08 PM

watch how this freeway becomes a failure after they bring this in.. Everyone will be dropping 10k's an hour to not get caught, therefore increasing travel time.

kurbn

02-10-2009, 05:55 PM

well I think we know where the revenue they raised from last weekend is going!

1JZVL

02-10-2009, 05:58 PM

yay

on the plus side...

is it safe to say with all the money "raised" that it'll be for good use?

or just more money for some old cocksuckers who don't know fuck all?

:(

Torquen

02-10-2009, 06:17 PM

fml for point 2 point on country roads!

Gladio

02-10-2009, 06:35 PM

Great... Jusssssst Great...

dmwill

02-10-2009, 06:52 PM

They claim it's not revenue raising, but they still project the estimated revenue generated by the new cameras.

Endless

02-10-2009, 08:29 PM

I predict more camera smashings... and i hope i'm right!

evil.e30

02-10-2009, 08:38 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovLpMzMSj9w

even better... LCD ftw :)

GROUP BUY?

Satan

02-10-2009, 08:41 PM

http://www.speedcam.co.uk/gatso2.htm

this is what our pom brothers do to Gatsos and the like

:o)

FUCK EM!!

Roobiks

02-10-2009, 08:42 PM

I'm pretty sure a while back there was a froup buy on SAU for plate flippers? Took like 4 seconds to completely flip the plate (in-cabin switch) to show a different one on the back of your real one :)

Mad_Aussie

02-10-2009, 08:43 PM

I'm not too concerned. Every time you go for a drive, just pull over for 5 minutes, then you can speed all you want and you should be under the average time.

Rich

02-10-2009, 08:50 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovLpMzMSj9w

even better... LCD ftw :)

do want. Ive seen the flippers but ive been looking for one like that for ages!

DRKWRX

02-10-2009, 09:39 PM

im sure those bunbury folk will break these cameras!

RMCprime

02-10-2009, 09:45 PM

I wonder if they will still put a multinova within the point to point area to catch people that arent traveling the full point to point distance. I recall a while ago a bloke over east was caught by multiple fixed speed cameras on the same rd. The court found that he could not be charged multiple times for one offence.

Sully

03-10-2009, 02:02 AM

this wouldn't be a problem if we had realistic speed limits

cplagz

03-10-2009, 06:53 AM

do want. Ive seen the flippers but ive been looking for one like that for ages!

If you can find someone who retails electrochromic plexiglass let me know!

I think the major problem is, it's see through with voltage applied .... we want it the other way around.

With the GATSO's in the UK, some anarchist group last year destroyed a lot (70-100 odd) by throwing a tyre over them, pouring petrol in the bottom of the tyre and lighting it up.

Also.... doesn't pulling over for 5 minutes to "get back within the average" kind of defeat the purpose of speeding? You might as well stick to the speed limit if you're going to do that....

DISTRBD

03-10-2009, 07:19 AM

im sure those bunbury folk will break these cameras!

If they appear closer to us they may just blow over in the wind :)

PAGZ

03-10-2009, 07:22 AM

Also.... doesn't pulling over for 5 minutes to "get back within the average" kind of defeat the purpose of speeding? You might as well stick to the speed limit if you're going to do that....

Least im not the only one thinking that lol, There has to be some sort of industrial paint that u can spray over these camera's that render them useless?

cplagz

03-10-2009, 07:28 AM

Least im not the only one thinking that lol, There has to be some sort of industrial paint that u can spray over these camera's that render them useless?

I would think some form of etcher would work better if you want to go that route..... but it would only be temporary until they replace the glass.

Think about it this way also .... 30km distance.... at varying speeds.

30km @ 100kph = 18 minutes
30km @ 110kph = 16.36 minutes
30km @ 115kph = 15.65 minutes
30km @ 120kph = 15 minutes
30km @ 125kph = 14.4 minutes
30km @ 130kph = 13.85 minutes

So really..... you're better off doing the speed limit then trying to fool the cameras?

:lol: :wave:

PAGZ

03-10-2009, 08:08 AM

Yeah its not really a big deal unless you intend on doing something totally illegal, Im sure tripple d cruise organizers would be more than interested. At the end of the day stick to the limit and you wont get caught? Pretty simple if u ask me lol

kiasu

03-10-2009, 08:18 AM

www.speedflip.com

duste

03-10-2009, 08:20 AM

http://www.ukspeedtraps.co.uk/customer/speedflip/stiched%2014_tmp.jpg

www.speedflip.com

For those that can't read number plates, right?

Would be nice to have it though and have a fake plate behind saying [FUCK YOU], [HOON] or something similar haha.

scj91

03-10-2009, 08:56 AM

Fixed cameras are great.

means you can have top speed runs,from over pass to over pass,stop at the over pass,then drive on after 10 minutes or so!
Would make sense for there to be no road side speed cameras on over passes with point to point speed cameras right?

.....

lol

Butcher

03-10-2009, 09:26 AM

or if the cameras are mounted or the bridge overpasses go sick then take the exit ramp where the camera is, continue through the (Green) lights at the intersection and continue down the on ramp?

thommo

03-10-2009, 09:30 AM

I got done for no frnt plate june/july this year and it was $100/no points.

Very suprising how many poolice I passed/saw that didnt seem to care about it.

same i was riding my bike on a permit, no plates at all and cop car sat behind me at the lights and sat next to me for ages down abernethy rd. didnt phase them one bit.

Rich

03-10-2009, 10:57 AM

If you can find someone who retails electrochromic plexiglass let me know!

I think the major problem is, it's see through with voltage applied .... we want it the other way around.

With the GATSO's in the UK, some anarchist group last year destroyed a lot (70-100 odd) by throwing a tyre over them, pouring petrol in the bottom of the tyre and lighting it up.

Also.... doesn't pulling over for 5 minutes to "get back within the average" kind of defeat the purpose of speeding? You might as well stick to the speed limit if you're going to do that....

I emailed them and they are still working on the product. its not ready for production yet but they estimate $300 each!

ossie_21

03-10-2009, 11:46 AM

http://www.moellermarine.com/sites/moellermarine/images/marine_tank/03609_spout-in-72dpi.jpg
http://image.automotive.com/f/lookback/9796575+pheader/epcp_0803_01_z+zippo_lighter+side_view.jpg

KPWISHN

03-10-2009, 12:35 PM

tailgate past them. :)

DrKarl

03-10-2009, 12:40 PM

I'd like to take part in a rampage but end of the day it comes out of our pocket. You cant win.

Butcher

03-10-2009, 06:16 PM

Ryan1080

03-10-2009, 07:12 PM

I'd like to take part in a rampage but end of the day it comes out of our pocket. You cant win.

Not really, they profit 100-fold out of it, therefore a little bit of damage here and there is only going to dent their revenue a little bit, not taxpayer's funds. I say thrash it as much as you can :D

Sciflyer

05-10-2009, 08:39 AM

30km @ 100kph = 18 minutes
30km @ 110kph = 16.36 minutes
30km @ 115kph = 15.65 minutes
30km @ 120kph = 15 minutes
30km @ 125kph = 14.4 minutes
30km @ 130kph = 13.85 minutes

So really..... you're better off doing the speed limit then trying to fool the cameras?

:lol: :wave:

Speeding isnt necessarily about saving time though

Also, with rear-facing Multanovas, if you have a half-decent radar detector it will still give you enough warning as the signal bounces off objects and cars in front and back to you. Its no different to when your detector goes off when approaching a camera pointing at oncoming traffic on the other side of the road

mehow2g

05-10-2009, 09:35 AM

They dont care about people its just $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ like everything else in the world.

cplagz

05-10-2009, 10:20 AM

Well wouldnt you just have voltage applied constantly with a switch in the circuit to break voltage when you want to got blank spec.

Yes, but what about when you park your car. I'm sure cops would see the blanked out plates :)

coFF33

05-10-2009, 10:41 AM

Whatever happened to that spray on clear shit similar to hairspray that you can coat your plates in and it refelcts the flash ?

shit still exist?

Tocchi

05-10-2009, 10:46 AM

or if the cameras are mounted on the bridge overpasses go sick then take the exit ramp where the camera is, continue through the (Green) lights at the intersection and continue down the on ramp?

haha yes !!! that would be an awesome thing to happen