View Full Version : Ralliart Colt reverse crunch?
Went to a mitsi dealer today and they said that its nothing, somthing to do with the straight cut gears or sum shit. Its noisy and sounds like im jamming it in without a clutch, thorts?
xr06t
08-09-2009, 03:12 PM
keep complaining till they fix it. Sounds alot like fords warranty.
yup, i got till december 2011 so there guna get to know me :)
if it aint got a synchro on reverse (more often thsn not) then its normal .
can be caused by idle being too high.
also try double declutching before selecting reverse
Normal.
Just gotta make sure your at a complete stop before trying to select reverse.
Also note sometimes mine doesnt engage properly. It looks like its in, but its not quite. Just gotta edge forward a touch, then try again.
double declutch, you should find its much better
Normal.
Just gotta make sure your at a complete stop before trying to select reverse.
Also note sometimes mine doesnt engage properly. It looks like its in, but its not quite. Just gotta edge forward a touch, then try again.
yup i get that problem aswell..
millzy_88
08-09-2009, 04:32 PM
double declutch, you should find its much better
What he said, pretty much all cars have this problem to some degree. Its normal
Autopilot
08-09-2009, 04:47 PM
http://i29.tinypic.com/s5d1yt.jpg
bodybodyrock
08-09-2009, 05:05 PM
keep complaining till they fix it. Sounds alot like fords warranty.
pingpingpingpings complain like they bought a fukin ferrari tho
bjohnson
08-09-2009, 05:15 PM
As much as Ford servicing sucks, I've never had a problem claiming warranty the few times that I've had to.
My XR4 crunches though,
It's because there is no synchro on reverse.
I just have to baby it, sometimes it helps to chuck it into 3rd or 4th before.
Yup, found if i put it into another gear first then reverse it seems to fix the problem, but ffs its the year 2009 my 89 shitbox can go into reverse without a problem fkn muppets are mitsi needa start with the basics again.
HANS YOLO
08-09-2009, 08:48 PM
my VW does the same...sounds like it bashes its way in
kurbn
08-09-2009, 09:11 PM
your R32 box must have a good reverse gear on it, 20 boxes dont have a sincro for the reverse gear - its gear on gear, most of them are all bured on reverse
put into first gear and then into reverse or let the transmision spin down when you press the clutch in until you put it into reverse.
your VW does it? recent one? My Mk 4 was like pushing through air!
Shauno
09-09-2009, 06:05 AM
pingpingpingpings complain like they bought a fukin ferrari tho
Some one still has paid anywhere from 20k-40k i think that warrants enough to complain when shit doesn't work properly.
cplagz
09-09-2009, 06:54 AM
that's farked! my 20 year old Getrag loves reverse (even does burnouts in it I accidentally found out), no crunch or whine. I'd be complaining like a stuck pig if my brand new car made sounds like that.
that's farked! my 20 year old Getrag loves reverse (even does burnouts in it I accidentally found out), no crunch or whine. I'd be complaining like a stuck pig if my brand new car made sounds like that.
yeh man it kinda piss's me off to think that its onli guna get worse as time goes by..
cplagz
09-09-2009, 07:31 AM
heavier weight box oil make any difference? like redline shockproof ? (not condoning that a new owner should have to do this though!)
Im not sure what you all think complainings going to do. Its normal. They cant magically make it go away..
Shauno
09-09-2009, 07:53 AM
It is their job to do so...My lancer will be going back to mitsu for the same thing pretty much..
FFS, Reverse is Straight cut and doesnt have a synchro! It's not an issue, Alot of boxes do it! and its not going to cause any short or long term damage!, It whines because of the cut of the gears, It crunches because something is still moving in the box or its not quite aligned, Double clutch and you shouldn't have an issue!
that's farked! my 20 year old Getrag loves reverse (even does burnouts in it I accidentally found out), no crunch or whine. I'd be complaining like a stuck pig if my brand new car made sounds like that.
yeh man it kinda piss's me off to think that its onli guna get worse as time goes by..
HANS YOLO
09-09-2009, 09:02 AM
your R32 box must have a good reverse gear on it, 20 boxes dont have a sincro for the reverse gear - its gear on gear, most of them are all bured on reverse
put into first gear and then into reverse or let the transmision spin down when you press the clutch in until you put it into reverse.
your VW does it? recent one? My Mk 4 was like pushing through air!
MK5 GTI...periodically slams in...i think on cold starts and the revs are up a tad more than normal...other than that, can't fault it - besides the lack of a 6th gear :)
vwwatercooled.org - claims on here that different box oil can help
GhostFc3s
09-09-2009, 10:23 AM
Harden up, all gearboxes do it.
Stop, clutch in, neutral, clutch out,clutch in, into second, then into reverse.
Harden up, all gearboxes do it.
Stop, clutch in, neutral, clutch out,clutch in, into second, then into reverse.
Fuck ur a dumb kunt..
Fuck ur a dumb kunt..
No, You clearly are, All synchroless gearsets that are straigh cut ar going to do this in varying degrees, It happens in all makes and models.
Its not going to get worse with age/kilometers, its just a fact of life. Build a bridge and get over it, Whingeing about it isnt going to fix it, nor is the manufacturer becasue it quite simply ISNT A PROBLEM!
agreed, if its such an issue should have noticed it before buying
get used to it or buy an auto.
Wait until your clutch starts groaning. That is actually an issue that can be fixed :D
No, You clearly are, All synchroless gearsets that are straigh cut ar going to do this in varying degrees, It happens in all makes and models.
Its not going to get worse with age/kilometers, its just a fact of life. Build a bridge and get over it, Whingeing about it isnt going to fix it, nor is the manufacturer becasue it quite simply ISNT A PROBLEM!
Sorry i must of missed the chapter of syncholess gearsets in my facts of life book.
Harden up, all gearboxes do it.
Stop, clutch in, neutral, clutch out,clutch in, into second, then into reverse.
If you actually took the time to read the posts above you, you would see that the problem was actually solved by doing a little less than what you said, so there was no need for your harden up remark or your post at all.
Brett_J
09-09-2009, 03:57 PM
Sorry i must of missed the chapter of syncholess gearsets in my facts of life book.
If you actually took the time to read the posts above you, you would see that the problem was actually solved by doing a little less than what you said, so there was no need for your harden up remark or your post at all.
You sir are a fuckhead, sell your car, buy a plane ticket to somewhere far away and fuck off.
You were told no less than 5 times be fore your retarded response that this is a common problem.
In regards to reading posts above you,maybe you should heed your own advice.
Sorry i must of missed the chapter of syncholess gearsets in my facts of life book.
And just quietly its not in a facts of life book, but can be found in all manners of real life scenarios, Basic mechanical knowledge and workshop/vehicle manuals.
Maybe i should take your advice on building that bridge so i can lend it out to you? As for your post Brett, i wasn't aware that the problem would not get worse untill mys1's post on this page, it being a common problem doesn't mean that its not going to get worse? So why dont u take your own advise and fuck off or even better, u can join your little mate on a stroll across the bridge?
And just quietly its not in a facts of life book, but can be found in all manners of real life scenarios, Basic mechanical knowledge and workshop/vehicle manuals.
What about a public forum?
Brett_J
09-09-2009, 04:29 PM
Should I take my own advise or advice?
Regardless no one wants you on the forum anyway, so make it easier for everyone.
dude... honestly go have a tug or sumthing ur crying like a little girl
Maybe i should take your advice on building that bridge so i can lend it out to you? As for your post Brett, i wasn't aware that the problem would not get worse untill mys1's post on this page, it being a common problem doesn't mean that its not going to get worse? So why dont u take your own advise and fuck off or even better, u can join your little mate on a stroll across the bridge?
What about a public forum?
And herin lies the point which you missed, You believed it to be a problem, when in actual fact it wasnt a problem to begin with, Yet when people tell you its not a problem and mearley a fact (a fact that has no bearing on the actual long term function or longivety of the gearbox) you still go about calling people pingpingpingpings and fuckheads.
I'd almost go so far as to say your as bad as Blaa this past few weeks for posting eleventy million posts about a Colt, most of which are fairly easily answered questions, yet you feel the majority of the interweb is needed to make a decision or find out what a simple google search would have told you in a much easier fashion.
However I said "almost" as bad as Blaa, the main point of difference being he posted some cool pics of him finger banging girls wich cancel out his other mediocre/pointless threads. You sir have very little other than a bandwagon remenant about hoons, a yellow GTST dropping a skid and a shark threat posted oh soo meaninglessly in your avatar.
I think Ill leave it at that, but im with Brett, Sell your car, fuck off to somewhere far away and press the Log out Icon conveniently located top left of the web page you are curently viewing.
http://threadbombing.com/data/media/27/internets.jpg
Your picture owned the one i was going to use, mys1 sorry my avatar isnt doing a skid :( wait just noticed it kinda is.. sorry about that does it make it as kool as yours?
MaTMaN
09-09-2009, 04:57 PM
and press the Log out Icon conveniently located top left of the web page you are curently viewing.
minor detail, but my logout is top right :)
haha I always get my lefts n rights mixed, slow day at work....
Kye! The interweb is serious buisness and i <3 you :)
kurbn
09-09-2009, 05:30 PM
Wait until your clutch starts groaning. That is actually an issue that can be fixed :D
I dont know about that one, please correct me if I am wrong but I have allways been under the impression that when buying a secondhand car the clutch is usually not covered as its a wearing part. Or is that more for cars that have an extended warantee thats not worth the paper its printed on?
I dont know about that one, please correct me if I am wrong but I have allways been under the impression that when buying a secondhand car the clutch is usually not covered as its a wearing part. Or is that more for cars that have an extended warantee thats not worth the paper its printed on?
No, its a common fault with the first gen Ralliart Colts. Its not a wear issue, its a fault in manufacturing. Mitsubishi are honouring warranty on it (Sorry, some dealers are, others are being difficult, but Mitsu head office are aware of it). Its a simple change to the 09-spec clutch/pressure plate setup.
It doesnt actually effect the operation of the clutch, its just an annoying noise. Not vital to even bother getting it changed if you cbf, but i would suggest that come re-sale time, telling someone "oh it still works fine" wont exactly inspire them with great confidence about a strange noise coming from the clutch :D
No, its a common fault with the first gen Ralliart Colts. Its not a wear issue, its a fault in manufacturing. Mitsubishi are honouring warranty on it (Sorry, some dealers are, others are being difficult, but Mitsu head office are aware of it). Its a simple change to the 09-spec clutch/pressure plate setup.
So yours saying when my clutch starts to go all i have to do is take it into a misti dealer and they will replace it with an 09 clutch + pressure plate? Can this be done sooner rather than later seeing as they are aware of it being a problem?
So yours saying when my clutch starts to go all i have to do is take it into a misti dealer and they will replace it with an 09 clutch + pressure plate? Can this be done sooner rather than later seeing as they are aware of it being a problem?
Its not a matter of the clutch starting to wear out. If thats the case, then no, they arent going to replace it under warranty.
So i would suggest if you get this same groaning noise on take off (i find its more common when taking off from a hill start, just before friction point) then your best to get it looked at ASAP before you shag the clutch, otherwise they'll probably tell you to politely go jump :)
redline07
09-09-2009, 06:25 PM
NO he's saying they fix a noise it makes, not when you've fucked the clutch doing skids to impress bitches.
Its not a matter of the clutch starting to wear out. If thats the case, then no, they arent going to replace it under warranty.
So i would suggest if you get this same groaning noise on take off (i find its more common when taking off from a hill start, just before friction point) then your best to get it looked at ASAP before you shag the clutch, otherwise they'll probably tell you to politely go jump :)
Me and the noise no each other well, will check it out thanx m8
redline07, it churps 2nd bitches love it.
breakin traction, one thing fwd is good for
POTTER
09-09-2009, 07:10 PM
i had an audi rental and it did the same thing
its 100% normal
dont worry bout it
Maybe i should take your advice on building that bridge so i can lend it out to you? As for your post Brett, i wasn't aware that the problem would not get worse untill mys1's post on this page, it being a common problem doesn't mean that its not going to get worse? So why dont u take your own advise and fuck off or even better, u can join your little mate on a stroll across the bridge?
What about a public forum?
deserves a re-run...
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj200/slugwrx/arguing_on_the_internet.jpg
breakin traction, one thing fwd is good for
Honestly too scared to after hearing storys about these box's, 1 dead shitter is enough for me at the moment lol
Honestly too scared to after hearing storys about these box's, 1 dead shitter is enough for me at the moment lol
How many stories have you heard? As i said in the other thread, ive only heard of one box munching itself.
Provided you dont launch like a spastic and take it relatively easy on the 1-2 change, i cant see it being a great issue.
All should be good then seeing as the car hasn't and wont ever see a launch. The bloke ive been talking to was running 160hp @ the fronts and has major issues with his box, but in saying that he might of picked up a lemon.
joshg123
10-09-2009, 10:05 PM
Dont know if its been answered but the crunch is the input shaft slowing down by hitting the teeth of the reverse gear with the selector. Only way to not have it happen is either sit with the clutch in for longer and let the shaft spin down by itself, or as others said select another gear, this will use the synchro ring of the other gear to slow the input shaft down rather than you using the grinding of the selector hub to slow it down.
Nothing you can do about it unless you put a synchro ring on reverse, which is not gonna happen.
Thats the techo biffo.
thrtytwo
11-09-2009, 08:57 AM
keep complaining till they fix it. Sounds alot like fords warranty.
Haha. Family friend went over a speed bump in a territory and his front Axel fell off. Ford said not they're problem. Apparently it's an issue with the first series of the cars
bodybodyrock
13-09-2009, 04:11 PM
i think ur pulling ur cock ^^
Drift_R32
13-09-2009, 05:54 PM
i think the main problem with this entire is that theres 3 pages about one of the ugliest queer mobiles to ever be produced. i couldnt care if it had 200hp at the fronts. its a digusting abortion of a car.
Slight thread revival.
PAGZ, just had my clutch issue (clutch issue people, not reverse crunching, we've established that already :p) sorted out at Wanneroo Mitsu to get rid of the groaning noise.
All done under warranty. So if you havent already got yours done, take it out there while the issues fresh in their mind perhaps?
Cheers mate, spoke to them about it a few weeks ago will get back on to them.
anton
03-12-2009, 09:10 AM
Haha. Family friend went over a speed bump in a territory and his front Axel fell off. Ford said not they're problem. Apparently it's an issue with the first series of the cars
i could see that happening, if he went over the speed hump at a ridiculous speed
off topic, but if anyone can comment, i might be thinking of a early (up to 05) territiory to replace the family sedan, are they a pretty good car or should the early ones be avoided? isnt the suspension/running gear all falcon based?
for around 16k they seem ok, havent driven one yet tho.
cheers
Maybe start a new thread champ.
Ralliart Colt, Territory, NOT SAME.
ok might do, but didnt think it was a thread worthy question on a 'performance matters' forum, especially since this reverse crunch issue is resolved & someone else bought up the territory in here
i think ur pulling ur cock ^^
^are you sure about that???
quotes & links describing this issue! :eek3:
(theres at least 3 exactly like the following quote in the following link too)
Lower balljoint failed causing arm to drop onto inside of alloy rim, resulting in creation of nice circumferential grooved effect and an elegant streamer of swarf.
Only doing about 10kph on small shopping centre roundabout, so only ran for an extra 10-15m - enough to clear the roundabout - before (literally) grinding to a halt.
also more here -->
http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11215824&page=1&pp=25
Replied by Milsy on 12-Aug-2009 20:47 (Ref 2909)
Well guys guess what happened to us today? Only this morning at 7.40 am whilst drving the car about two kilometres an hour into our driveway our front left hand wheel fell off. The front control arm fell out (ball joints) thus causing the drive shaft to come out (ball joints), which could have been catastrophic had we been driving at 100km with our family of four. Our 2004 territory ghia which we bought new is in excellent condition with only 83000km on the clock, always serviced by ford. It has given us a big scare. This is a safety issue which could and probably already has been fatal. We think ford should recall all these models of ford territory's. We're not bashing ford as we've had fords for the last 15 years - good and bad. But this needs to get out to the public probably through the media. THIS IS A MASSIVE SAFETY ISSUE!!!!!!! This could be somebody elses family and maybe not so fortunate. Ford needs to put safety first, if they know about this problem then are are neglegent.
taken from here
http://www.carbuddy.com.au/car-forum/topic.aspx?t=2&tid=667
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zr2gvoP9NZc
If your so worried about it buy something else.
And as Joe said, start a new thread!
I didnt bring this topic up originally (see the quote?)
oh no, a thread going off topic, not like its never happened on here before lol
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